Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michael Robinson wrote: >> Why are you assuming said DOS system will be accessed by multiple >> strangers? For things like FreeDOS, there will be a single user who >> installs it in the first place and runs it after it is. While it's >> theoretically possible to

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Robinson
A kiosk is a multiple user system, but not necessarily a simultaneously multiple user system. So DOS will work most likely. Chances are though, the DOS system files and tools themselves need to be on read only memory if there is any possibility of a person being at a command line and making a

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 09:20 AM 1/11/2012, dmccunney wrote: >I ran DesqView, back in the day. It worked surprisingly well. >I recall one BBS sysop running four instances of a Wildcat BBS on a >25mhz AT under DV. He could have 4 nodes connected to four modems and >operating simultaneously on on machine. It did indee

Re: [Freedos-user] VirtualBox FreeDOS HowTo

2012-01-11 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 11-1-2012 0:58, Ulrich Hansen schreef: > I have started a VirtualBox HowTo in our FreeDOS wiki. > It is a sort of installation walkthrough with many pictures. > > It can be found here: > > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Installing_FreeDOS_in_VirtualBox That looks

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 07:39 AM 1/11/2012, dmccunney wrote: >>Please recall that DesqView, DesqViewX, GEM, and Windows through 9.X >>were precisely GUIs strapped onto a DOS environment. > > Just for the record, DesqView is not a GUI, but a text mode > multi-tas

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 07:39 AM 1/11/2012, dmccunney wrote: >Please recall that DesqView, DesqViewX, GEM, and Windows through 9.X >were precisely GUIs strapped onto a DOS environment. Just for the record, DesqView is not a GUI, but a text mode multi-tasking/task-switching add-on for DOS and basically an extension t

Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

2012-01-11 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 12:30 AM 1/11/2012, Florian Xaver wrote: >El 11.01.2012, a las 03:38, Ralf A. Quint escribió: > > >> I'd love to have you contribute to a GUI project. There have been > >> several. The one with the longest history is OpenGEM, but the web site > >> is now idle (http://gem.shaneland.co.uk/). The

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: > The problems encountered strapping a GUI onto a DOS system are similar > to the problems that were encountered when object orientation and > classes were added to C to create C++.  C++ is really a hybrid language, > neither a strictly proc

Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

2012-01-11 Thread jhall
> Do you have any info what happened to Shane/the OpenGEM project, the > whole "disappearance" happened a bit quick and starring for several > years now at the site that proclaims "Something exciting is coming > soon" is a bit of a drag :-( ... > > Ralf > IIRC, he became the IT Director or

Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

2012-01-11 Thread Florian Xaver
Since DJGPP is not up-to-date anymore a fresh installation is a pain! (new versions of the libraries, small fixes, etc, new versions of the compilers ...) Bye Florian El 11.01.2012, a las 12:27, nospam escribió: > > I find it tedious to download lots and lots of files from the DJGPP site and

Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

2012-01-11 Thread nospam
I find it tedious to download lots and lots of files from the DJGPP site and putting them into the DJGPP directory. In the process you have to make sure that old packages do not overwrite the files installed by new packages. And you may have selected the wrong version needed or just missed some

[Freedos-user] Freedos and graphical user interfaces...

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Robinson
The problems encountered strapping a GUI onto a DOS system are similar to the problems that were encountered when object orientation and classes were added to C to create C++. C++ is really a hybrid language, neither a strictly procedural nor a strictly object oriented language. Any GUI strapped

Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

2012-01-11 Thread Florian Xaver
El 11.01.2012, a las 03:38, Ralf A. Quint escribió: >> I'd love to have you contribute to a GUI project. There have been >> several. The one with the longest history is OpenGEM, but the web site >> is now idle (http://gem.shaneland.co.uk/). The OpenGEM6 pre-release is >> the last we heard of this

Re: [Freedos-user] x windows server for DOS

2012-01-11 Thread Florian Xaver
> > I don't think that SEAL (regardless under which name and incarnation, > there were several IIRC) ever got to the point that it was in any > form "usable". Can't call this promising at all. All they got was > some nice desktop picture, nothing more... You are wrong. There weren't many usef