Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX Isn´t for everyone (off-topic remark)

2020-03-25 Thread Louis Santillan
These days, it several MBs more than 8MB, but, TinyCoreLinux [0][1] is a RAMDisk based Linux that requires less than 48MB.Earlier versions ran on far less and even offered network connected, command line versions running in under 16MB of RAM on i486DX or better [2]. Even a mildly loaded i486DX

Re: [Freedos-user] Shared Folders on FreeDOS 1.3 rc2 VirtualBox in the Lubuntu ... problems

2020-03-25 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user
Hi Everaldo! Since Oracle did not include a DOS driver in the Guest Additions image, the Shared Folders feature of VirtualBox does not work on FreeDOS - or even on MS-DOS, for that matter. I looked into creating such a driver once, but browsing the documentation and source code of VirtualBox

Re: [Freedos-user] Shared Folders on FreeDOS 1.3 rc2 VirtualBox in the Lubuntu ... problems

2020-03-25 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Everaldo, > I don't get to configure "Shared Folders" after to have installed the > FreeDOS 1.3 rc2 on VirtualBox from Lubuntu 16.04. I did the step by > step, but when I installed the package "Guest Additions for VirtualBox" I think those are not for DOS. For DOS, we have VMWARE drivers

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread userbeitrag
On Mar 25 2020 18:21, andrew fabbro wrote: > Of course, you're comparing a 20-year-old distro with a 30-year-old > "distro" of DOS :-) > > You get more functionality in a mid-90s Linux than a late-80s DOS. Actually, DOS had a lot to offer. On such a machine it was quite fast, compared to a Unix

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX Isn´t for everyone (off-topic remark)

2020-03-25 Thread userbeitrag
On Mar 25 2020 18:51, Jose Antonio Senna wrote: > Today userbeit...@abwesend.de (Robinson West ?) said: > >> Afaik there is no Linux that will run with only 8 MB of RAM. > About 1998 I did run (plod was a better description) > Red Hat 5.0 (kernel 2.0.32) in a 486 DX-50 with 4 MB > of RAM, but

[Freedos-user] Shared Folders on FreeDOS 1.3 rc2 VirtualBox in the Lubuntu ... problems

2020-03-25 Thread Everaldo Bernardo Cunha
Hello, friends! I don't get to configure "Shared Folders" after to have installed the FreeDOS 1.3 rc2 on VirtualBox from Lubuntu 16.04. I did the step by step, but when I installed the package "Guest Additions for VirtualBox", unconfigured the network and I don't have more access to the

Re: [Freedos-user] Off topic - hardware survival.

2020-03-25 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:14 PM Cesar Gimenes wrote: > > “An XT is the kind of computer that won't die all by itself. You have to > kill it on purpose." > > I really liked it! > it's a shame I don't have any machines from that time. I have one. They do die by themselves. Mine had a component

Re: [Freedos-user] Off topic - hardware survival.

2020-03-25 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 7:17 AM Tom via Freedos-user wrote: > > Hope you dont mind this but I was just wondering about hardware > survival rates. I have a 486 from 92 that still works but most of my > later machines have died before being 5y old. Id did have a 20 year old > 286 that had to go

Re: [Freedos-user] Off topic - hardware survival.

2020-03-25 Thread Ian Park
On 25/03/2020 16:57, Bret Johnson wrote: I still have an old Pentium-class machine that I boot up every once in awhile.  I think it has an AMD CPU instead of Intel, but don't remember for sure.  Last time I booted it up was probably 6 months

[Freedos-user] DOSBOX Isn´t for everyone (off-topic remark)

2020-03-25 Thread Jose Antonio Senna
Today userbeit...@abwesend.de (Robinson West ?) said: >Afaik there is no Linux that will run with only 8 MB of RAM. About 1998 I did run (plod was a better description) Red Hat 5.0 (kernel 2.0.32) in a 486 DX-50 with 4 MB of RAM, but in text mode only. The machine and the installation CD

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread andrew fabbro
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:08 AM ZB wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 01:50:42PM +0100, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > > On 25/03/2020 12:28, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: > > > Afaik there is no Linux that will run with only 8 MB of RAM. > > > > Extract from the Debian Buzz FAQ: > > > > "Debian Linux

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 25/03/2020 14:07, ZB wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 01:50:42PM +0100, Mateusz Viste wrote: On 25/03/2020 12:28, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: Afaik there is no Linux that will run with only 8 MB of RAM. Extract from the Debian Buzz FAQ: "Debian Linux can be installed on systems with

Re: [Freedos-user] Off topic - hardware survival.

2020-03-25 Thread Bret Johnson
I still have an old Pentium-class machine that I boot up every once in awhile. I think it has an AMD CPU instead of Intel, but don't remember for sure. Last time I booted it up was probably 6 months ago. The problem with older computers usually isn't the electronic parts (CPU's and RAM) but

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread ZB
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 01:50:42PM +0100, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On 25/03/2020 12:28, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: > > Afaik there is no Linux that will run with only 8 MB of RAM. > > Extract from the Debian Buzz FAQ: > > "Debian Linux can be installed on systems with only 4 MBytes of RAM.

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 25/03/2020 12:28, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: Afaik there is no Linux that will run with only 8 MB of RAM. Extract from the Debian Buzz FAQ: "Debian Linux can be installed on systems with only 4 MBytes of RAM. (...) An 80386-based system with only 4 MBytes of RAM and 40 MBytes disk

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread userbeitrag
On Mar 25 2020 01:36, Rugxulo wrote: > I heard that XP was designed to get to the desktop in 30 secs. Not > necessarily responsive nor able to be used just yet, but at least it > would show up (in optimal conditions). Of course, that was P3/P4 > (single core) era. > > Of course, nowadays we have

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread userbeitrag
Hi! On Mar 25 2020 at 01:28, andrew fabbro wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:52 PM wrote: > >> Just a thought, some of us have old computers that we want to run freedos >> on. Running Linux on a Pentium 4 and trying to run Dosbox on top of that is >> going to be pretty have for that machine.

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread Andrew Robins
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Robert Riebisch wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > > Mind - although I still have both 430CDS' in storage for uncompleted > > project updates, I had to wave the white flag on productively using Puppy > > for kids use, on those particular specs. What worked best in it

[Freedos-user] Off topic - hardware survival.

2020-03-25 Thread Tom via Freedos-user
Hope you dont mind this  but I was just wondering about hardware survival rates. I have a 486 from 92 that still works but most of my later machines have died before being 5y old. Id did have a 20 year old 286 that had to go for space reasons even though it was still working. I was wondering

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Andrew, > Mind - although I still have both 430CDS' in storage for uncompleted project > updates, I had to wave the white flag on productively using Puppy for kids > use, on those particular specs. What worked best in it was a 2GB sd-card with > FreeDOS 1.1 configured to boot up Ronald

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

2020-03-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 4:03 PM Swap Jim via Freedos-user wrote: > > Tried it. Didn't change anything. But thanks for the suggestion. I don't think debug info is loaded into RAM at all. I'm not sure if even DJGPP does that either. So don't worry about that (much). I don't think "-O3" is

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

2020-03-25 Thread bruce.axtens
I spent two years in Papua New Guinea in the mid 1980s using (and developing on and for) an Altos 8000-10 using MP/M II. Mostly CB-80 with bits of assembler. Interesting/fun times. > Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Totally agree with that. Bruce.