Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 4:35 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jim, > > the current Diskman website links to archive.org for some of > the content and "inside" the archived website you can jump to > > http://web.archive.org/web/20070206182142/http://www.diskman.co.uk/license.aspx > > Which contains the

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 4:00 PM dmccunney wrote: >[..] > You don't host non open source software on Ibiblio. > > Fair enough, but there needs to be a place to put "Free to use" but > *not* open source that will be of use to Freedos (and DOS in general > users) and useful used on DOS/Freedos. It re

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:25 PM Eric Auer wrote: >[..] > > I downloaded 4.2.a3 from the author's website > > http://www.diskman.co.uk/ and while there's no Readme > > file, running the program prints this notice: > > > >> Licensed to : ALPHA RELEASE. DO NOT DISTRIBUTE... > > The list of versions (o

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

> On 4/25/2021 10:43 PM, TK Chia wrote: [..] > > troff (as groff) is still very much alive today, as far as I can tell. > > And the troff format is still the default source format for man pages on > > Linux. It is quite a good format for the job, if you ask me. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:54 AM Ral

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

> On 4/22/2021 3:21 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: > > There are many different reasons why people would want to install FreeDOS > > (if they get to know it). > > „ Different" like in „different people“. The needs and equipments are > > different and the mixture of technical generations > > should not re

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 10:59 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" > > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/dm/ > > which has only bare binaries inside. So I wondered what it is. > Now Robert, who says I should not than

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:39 PM geneb wrote: >[..] > > OpenGEM is nice and I believe it is quite mature. And being based on > > DR-DOS GEM (and the Atari TOS) the OpenGEM user interface should be > > somewhat familiar to old-school DOS users. I like OpenGEM, as much as > > I might like any DOS gra

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:31 AM geneb wrote: >[..] > On the surface of it, he's apparently asking for a "windows experience" in > a text mode operating system. DOS isn't a "point and drool your way to > fame and fortune" operating system. If he thinks this is bad, he'd have > a stroke when pres

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:55 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi TK Chia, > > > Apparently the review was from Laaca --- the author of Blocek. > > Yes, I mean that post. However, I have only quoted part of > the post and not mentioned the name because my impression > was that just publicly shouting how

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:45 AM Thomas Desi wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > yes, the roff-troff-groff (sounds like barking?) story reminds me in >some way to FreeDos. > > Compared to LaTex (or Tex), groff is so much leaner and easier. It >is still well maintained and usable. > > It allows output to html, t

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:43 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > Thanks, Jim: > > > I also write a lot of tech articles in raw HTML. I use HTML when I > > can't get the formatting I want through other means. What I like about > > using HTML5 is the semantic code, so the tags hold some meaning. > > I cu

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:45 AM TK Chia wrote: > > Hello Ralf, > > >> Still an excellent tool I consider TROFF, now GROFF, for Unix/Linux > >> -which also exists for Windows, appeared in 1990 (Version 0.3.1) by > >> James Clark) coming from “a text-formatting program called RUNOFF, > >> which wa

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 6:59 AM Liam Proven wrote: >[..] > FreeDOS commands are different in places; output is different in > places. That is fair; it is a community effort and an unauthorised > copy of a long-obsolete OS. I have no right to demand 100% > compatibility, and I don't. But I was surp

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS word processors / text editors

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 7:58 AM Thomas Desi wrote: > > Hi John, > thanks for your experience account and software list. > I am intrigued - as »collecting« word processors/text editors in the "quest > for the best« - I managed to find > the following. > (https://winworldpc.com/download/c3806cc3-a

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 6:16 PM Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user wrote: >[..] > As to the original question, while I only use DOS for nostalgia > reasons, I think it makes an excellent teaching tool for learning how > modern computers work. It's especially useful for people who wish to > run Windows

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:04 AM Liam Proven wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 01:16, Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > Have you written down your tips and tricks for this anywhere? I find > > these sorts of things interesting to read, mostly for nostalgia > > reasons - as in finall

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:04 AM Liam Proven wrote: >[..] > Ha! Drive letters most definitely did _not_ start with DOS. > > Remember that in effect MS-DOS was an unlicensed copy of Digital > Research's CP/M and particularly CP/M-86. When the IBM PC was > launched, IBM offered a choice of 3 OSes: P

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS videos round-up

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 7:02 AM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > Thanks, Jim: > > > If you haven't subscribed to the YouTube channel, > > here are a few highlights of videos you've missed: > >[..] > > > > I'm always open to suggestions > > The Web site editing video, being over an hour, was too long for

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNet package license problems

We previously had notes in the wiki about questionable licenses in the FDNet package, and it was marked Yellow ("Maybe") in the wiki for FreeDOS 1.3. So I think it's a good idea to pull FDNet for now. I've updated the wiki to reflect that. http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packa

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS news round-up

FreeDOS commands you need to know <https://opensource.com/article/21/4/freedos-commands>, and FreeDOS batch files <https://opensource.com/article/21/3/batch-files-freedos>. More recently, I did an interview with TechRound <https://techround.co.uk/interviews/interview-with-jim-hall-foun

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS videos round-up

I manage a small channel on YouTube where I post videos about FreeDOS. A few of you suggested that I share occasional updates about the YouTube channel on the email list, for those who don't follow the channel. I post a new video every week, and topics vary from things like showing how to use Free

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU General Public License...

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 4:30 AM Michael Christopher Robinson wrote: >The license MUST be viral. Folks, anyone who complains about it being >viral doesn't understand it at all. Google is a monopoly. Google >doesn't like the GPL because Google wants to lock up Android and data >mine everyone on the p

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF?!

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:30 AM Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user wrote: > > > I do dare to ask a dumb question, after reading several post about FSF. > > > > Can anyone explain what is FSF, i'm just a simple tech guy! > > One thing they also do - perhaps the most important in my opinion - is > that th

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:04 AM dmccunney wrote: > > > > Meanwhile, I'm beyond caring about Stallman or the state of the FSF. > > Both deserve whatever happens to them. On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 6:10 PM Rugxulo wrote: [..] > He's [Stallman] not perfect. He doesn't have to be. If we can't deal w

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:29 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > What clout does the FreeDOS community have? If our outfit is affiliated > or disaffiliates from FSF, does that make any difference? How is this > going to affect the lot of FSF women? > FreeDOS may be a small open source project - but re

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:41 PM tom ehlert wrote: > > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/red-hat-withdraws-from-the-stallman-led-free-software-foundation/ > > > maybe it's time to show the FSF the middle finger, too? > > Tom > Yeah, I have a long history with Stallman, and he is not a ple

Re: [Freedos-user] links v2.22

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 4:13 PM wrote: > > Hi! > there is a new release of links: > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/net/links/ > I've tried it a bit but still can't tell what the changes are from previous > versions; > however it is nice that there is still a dos brows

Re: [Freedos-user] fdnet.bat

Eric sent this to me off-list, but this seems like it should be part of the discussion. >From a license standpoint, the Crynwr package drivers should already be under an open source license. I think we already include them. I don't know of other open source network drivers .. if you know of any, p

Re: [Freedos-user] GEOS

That is a good question. I have not been following the open source PC/GEOS effort at all, so I have not updated the FreeDOS wiki page that mentions it. Can you tell us what is new in this area? On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 9:21 AM Tomas By wrote: > Hi all, > > Am just wondering if this is the curre

Re: [Freedos-user] Reminder: get-together on Sunday

Hi everyone! Join us now for the FreeDOS virtual get-together: https://bluejeans.com/730821219 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] Reminder: get-together on Sunday

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:43 AM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi Jim, > Actually..I live in Canada. > but I will check that site for an international number. The Canada numbers are: CANADA Toronto +1.416.900.2956 Montreal (French) +1.438.788.3021 Vancouver +1.778.807.4955 Copied from: https://ww

Re: [Freedos-user] Reminder: get-together on Sunday

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:45 AM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Will you be providing the dial in method at that time as well? > I take it too that given Lynx is constantly updated it falls under the > "modern" browser dictionary? > Kare > Hi Karen I'm sure Lynx won't work for these meetings. I think

[Freedos-user] Reminder: get-together on Sunday

Hi everyone! I just wanted to share this brief reminder: The next virtual get-together is this Sunday, March 21 (11am US/Central - use your favorite time zone converter to find your local time). The meeting is hosted on BlueJeans, but you can connect directly from any (modern) web browser. I'll p

Re: [Freedos-user] Invalid opcode - where do I even begin?

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 2:38 PM Michał Dec wrote: > > Hello, > > I've run some software on Pentium 3 Tualatin S on FreeDOS and it's > getting an invalid opcode error. The error precisely says "Invalid > opcode at ..." where ... is a bunch of 16 bit variables. Saying "at" is > really misleading and

Re: [Freedos-user] Command line

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:05 AM Jose Senna wrote: > > Did anyone else look at this ? > https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00263-0 > Command line is still (much) alive. > > Interesting article, thanks for sharing. This article is geared for Unix (Linux or Mac) but the concepts apply t

Re: [Freedos-user] num lock

> > On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 03:16:19 +0100, ZB wrote: > >> > >> http://home.mnet-online.de/willybilly/fdhelp-internet/en/hhstndrd/cnfigsys/numlock.htm > > > > Thanks. Maybe this should be under freedos.org somewhere, and > > available for search engine indexing... > > > > /Tomas > On Wed, Mar 3, 202

Re: [Freedos-user] March videoconference

Thanks for letting us know. On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:38 AM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > My time, your conference will be at 4 AM on Monday 22 March. But I have > mistakenly booked/paid-for a life-drawing session for later that day. I > regret that I don't intend to stagger into the latter like a zo

[Freedos-user] Hold the date: next FreeDOS virtual get-together

I had a lot of fun in last weekend's virtual get-together. And folks said they'd be interested in doing this again, so I wanted to schedule the next one. Hold the date for the next virtual get-together: we'll gather on Sunday, March 21. Since the time works for most people, let's plan the next one

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

>From earlier this month: > On Sunday, February 7, 2021 6:49 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > ... > Do you need a tool tip for the social media icons? Each icon is > the logo of a different social media platform: Twitter, > Facebook, YouTube. If you have an account on one of these,

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:59 PM Eric Auer wrote: [..] > Not sure what you mean by embedded apps for DOS, but as > the tile linking there mentions Linux, this might be a > good place to discuss the ins and outs of dosemu2, qemu, > dosemu1, dosbox and other ways to run DOS on modern OS: > > While so

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

l. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:08 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > > Hi everyone! I mentioned in another email that I'm working on a few changes > to the FreeDOS website. The goals in this update are to make things easier to > find,

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS test site (was: What is the FreeDOS fish?)

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:00 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > > On Feb 22, 2021, at 12:06 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > > > > Darn, I thought I’d updated this to be mobile friendly. Must have missed > something when I rewrote the css. I’ll have to look at that again. &g

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

7:08 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone! I mentioned in another email that I'm working on a few > changes to the FreeDOS website. The goals in this update are to make things > easier to find, to improve accessibility, and to make it easier to share > news items to social med

Re: [Freedos-user] What is the FreeDOS fish?

Darn, I thought I’d updated this to be mobile friendly. Must have missed something when I rewrote the css. I’ll have to look at that again. What phone do you use? On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 11:00 PM Jerome Shidel wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Unfortunately, the test site is not very mobile friendly. > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

Resending to cc the email list: On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 11:01 PM Jim Hall wrote: > Thanks for the feedback! > > Yes, I plan to offer links to download DOS apps and games from each of the > 4 tiles when you click on them for more information. If the app is open > source or gratis,

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

Hi everyone! I mentioned in another email that I'm working on a few changes to the FreeDOS website. The goals in this update are to make things easier to find, to improve accessibility, and to make it easier to share news items to social media. I've updated the test site based on your feedback fro

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

robably be on a Saturday or Sunday at the same time (11am US/Central). That time seems to work well for *most* folks - apologies that the Earth is round and there is no perfect time for everyone. Jim On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 11:04 AM Jim Hall wrote: > Join us for the next hour or so, in the F

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

Join us for the next hour or so, in the FreeDOS Virtual Get-Together! You can connect for free directly from any modern web browser, or using the BlueJeans Meetings client. https://bluejeans.com/117827007 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists

Re: [Freedos-user] History of Trackers

This article mentions DOS only twice: As ever when a piece of revolutionary technology is released, the emergence > of Ultimate Soundtracker saw several shareware and freeware clones follow > suit, including NoiseTracker and ProTracker for Amiga, and later Scream > Tracker for MS-*DOS*. These adde

Re: [Freedos-user] What is the FreeDOS fish?

In another thread, Bryan asked: On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:11 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > [..] > By the way, what is the origin/meaning of the obese fish logo? > The FreeDOS fish mascot is named Blinky. The short story behind this is I wanted to have a mascot for FreeDOS. I just thought "GNU ha

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:14 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Jim: > > > Do the social media icons on this test page look better? (This also > > centers the screenshots and "learn more" buttons.) > > > > http://test.freedos.org/test.html > > Hovering the mouse-pointer over the icons does not show text

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:11 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Thanks, Jim Hall wrote > > I've started a test version of the website at test.freedos.org > > <http://test.freedos.org> and I'd love your feedback on it! > > It only contains less than two lines of tex

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

t; --- > gge...@pm.me > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Friday, February 5th, 2021 at 3:27 PM, Jim Hall > wrote: > > Good iteration. Here's the same "test.html" page with the text below the > screenshots: > http://test.freedos.org/test2.html

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

< freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Looks good! IMO, however, the text would look better below the video/image > thumbnails. > > > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Friday, February 5, 2021 3:55 PM

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

Do the social media icons on this test page look better? (This also centers the screenshots and "learn more" buttons.) http://test.freedos.org/test.html On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:29 PM Jim Hall wrote: > Thanks, this feedback is very helpful! > > I hadn't finished st

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

Thanks, this feedback is very helpful! I hadn't finished styling the page. The next iteration will provide a narrower reading area (like the current www.freedos.org) which should help the "text spans from edge to edge of the screen" issue. Also will add spacing around the top "menu" items, and cen

Re: [Freedos-user] A different approach

On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 04:35:07PM -0600, Jim Hall wrote: > > > But I'm always on the lookout for an inexpensive Intel-based hobby system > > that would run FreeDOS. I spoke with an embedded systems company a month > or > > two ago, and they are in development of a

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

I've started a test version of the website at test.freedos.org and I'd love your feedback on it! *A few notes:* This is a *mock-up* of the new website, and it is a work in progress. You might see the design change from day to day as I decide to update things. It's also *incomplete*. For example

Re: [Freedos-user] A different approach

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 7:38 AM ZB wrote: > Build mini MSDOS gaming PC - NO EMULATION! PC104 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsv-jRiIT8 > > (Using PC/104 components to build a mini 486 MSDOS gaming PC) > > I'd love to have a system like this to experiment with, but the PC/104 modules are jus

Re: [Freedos-user] FYI: I'm speaking at FOSDEM'21 this weekend

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:44 PM Jim Hall wrote: > [..] > And there are other "like to have" things that would be great to have in a > FreeDOS "2.0" like an alternative DOS command.com shell. I described that > here long ago, and on the blog - would love to have an

Re: [Freedos-user] FYI: I'm speaking at FOSDEM'21 this weekend

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:44 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:21 PM tom ehlert wrote: > >> > (and a future "2.0" someday). >> >> I am a bit surprised by this. any news that we all are not aware of? >> >> > > Same as I

Re: [Freedos-user] FYI: I'm speaking at FOSDEM'21 this weekend

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:21 PM tom ehlert wrote: > > (and a future "2.0" someday). > > I am a bit surprised by this. any news that we all are not aware of? > > Same as I've said before in the email lists, and elsewhere: I want to get "1.3" finally wrapped up, and I'd like to have a "2.0" someda

[Freedos-user] FYI: I'm speaking at FOSDEM'21 this weekend

Just wanted to share a quick note that I'm doing two presentations at FOSDEM'21 in the retrocomputing devroom, on Sunday. More info here: https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/track/retrocomputing/ I'm doing a "lightning talk" that's meant to be a fun, fast-paced talk about "Why your PC only has 16 c

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:12 AM Robert Riebisch wrote: > Hi Jim, > > > Let me know what you think will make the website easier to use. I'll > > plan to tackle this in February or March, with plans to deploy in March > > or April. > > Sounds good to me. > > Just keep an eye on bandwidth for the fr

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 9:47 AM Dale E Sterner wrote: > If you update your website; make sure you keep it open to > old computers like mine. Update tend to lock out old > computers like mine. > > cheers > DS > > Yes, I agree. I'm also trying to minimize the javascript on the website. I use javas

Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 5:51 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > *2. Make it easy to share stuff* > > Sometimes it would be nice to share a news item with Twitter or other > > social media. I'm working on an update to the News system that will > provide > > "share" buttons to share a news item

Re: [Freedos-user] Full nroff-troff-TeX for FreeDOS

*On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 5:17 PM Robert Keys > wrote:* > *Hi all:* > > *FreeDOS newbie here (hopefully not needing the ancient internet flak > jacket).* > > *I used to run CPM/DOS/*nix in the ancient days of punch cards, paper > tape, 9-track reelsm, and floppies of the 8-inch and 5.25 inch sorts.

Re: [Freedos-user] any mouse configuration app recommendations?

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 7:12 AM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Bret: > > > You're wanting a utility that will configure the mouse sensitivity, > > resolution, etc. > > In OpenGEM, the mouse sensitivity is too high. > > For anyone who's following this topic, we helped Bryan with this during the virtual

Re: [Freedos-user] Which C compiler for targeting DOS?

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 1:56 AM Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > Can anyone recommend a good C compiler for DOS? > > I thought there was only DJGPP and had issues with it when I last tried > years ago (CWSDPMI), but looking at the FreeDOS bui

[Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

Hi everyone I'm thinking about making a few changes to the FreeDOS website. But I don't want this to be "just another makeover" that makes things pretty. Instead, I'm looking for what you will find useful. I'm thinking of a few things already: *1. Update the wiki* The wiki is arguably part of th

Re: [Freedos-user] Reminder: virtual get-together on Sunday

tps://bluejeans.com/814003161>* On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:00 AM Aitor Santamaría wrote: > If Goole didn't lie (or conspire), it is now (on a few minutes), right? :) > > On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 17:25, Jim Hall wrote: > >> Hi everyone! >> >> A quick reminder that our ne

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS virtual get-together is now

The FreeDOS virtual get-together is happening now! Join us for the next hour to talk about all things FreeDOS. You can connect with the BlueJeans Meetings client or join right from your browser. The meeting URL is https://bluejeans.com/814003161 ___ Free

[Freedos-user] Reminder: virtual get-together on Sunday

Hi everyone! A quick reminder that our next FreeDOS virtual get-together is Sunday, 24 January, 2021 at 11am US/Central. Use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time. Just like last time, we'll hold the meeting via BlueJeans. (You can download the meeting client, or you can join f

Re: [Freedos-user] qemu (or something)

I just tried it - the instructions in the article (I wrote the article) work fine for FreeDOS 1.2. But yes, I get an error when I choose to install to harddisk, and the install process immediately terminates. The error is: "The installation of FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 has been aborted." (red line at top of

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

> On 1/9/2021 6:11 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > Dear Jim: > > > >> Jim Hall wrote: > >> Mark your calendars for *Sunday, 24 January, 2021* at *11am US/Central*. > > > > That is 4 AM Monday, AEDT! > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 4:48 PM Ralf Quint wrote

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

Hi everyone! We had a great conversation at the last FreeDOS Virtual Get-together, and we all wanted to do it again. Mark your calendars for *Sunday, 24 January, 2021* at *11am US/Central*. Use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time. Just like last time, we'll hold the meeting

Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under UTIL. On FreeDOS 1.3, they are under "Graphical Desktops" If you installed FreeDOS 1.2 "Base", then you didn't get FDIMPLES. That's fixed in FreeDOS 1.3 rc3, but in FreeDOS 1.2 you don't get FDIMPLES unless you do a "Full" in

Re: [Freedos-user] Problems with FDISK?

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 11:12 AM Ralf Quint wrote: > On 1/2/2021 9:08 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Actually both FDISK versions had the same maintainer > > and they are both several years old, so this is not > > a problem caused by somebody forking something ;-) > > > Then why are there two different

Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 8:05 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Thanks, geneb: > > > Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM". GEM was released as open source back in > > 1996. > Include one in a FreeDOS package. > -- > There is one for OpenGEM already, and it's included in FreeDOS. :-)

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software

I'd love to see a list! There's probably some books and software I'd like. Jim On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 2:30 PM Ray Davison wrote: > I will keep DOS running primarily for accounting and word-processing, > because none of the "modern" apps have given me reason to change. > > However, I have about

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual get-together

based on other projects.) Jim On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:39 PM Hollowone PL wrote: > Yep, would be great to give people heads-up to plan availability for the > meeting. > > Thanks, > /h1 > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 1:08 AM Jim Hall wrote: > >> Sorry we missed you.

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual get-together

Sorry we missed you. I think we'll make this a regular thing. So we'll do another one in January. Maybe on a monthly schedule for now. Since today (December 13) is "mid December" then the next one will be sometime around "mid January." Jim On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 4:39 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote:

[Freedos-user] Package discussion

Following up from our discussion last time about packages (the "Simplifying FreeDOS" discussion from late October / early November), and from Jerome's package survey (still in progress) and from today's virtual get-together, I wanted to share current thoughts/proposals about the packages for the Fr

[Freedos-user] Virtual get-together

The FreeDOS virtual get-together is on now! Join us from 11am to noon (US/Central) on BlueJeans. You can use the BlueJeans Meeting client, or join from your browser! https://bluejeans.com/460259300 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourcefo

Re: [Freedos-user] AMB: new samples

I'd love to have the FreeDOS books in there, too. https://www.freedos.org/books/ I don't think I have the free time to convert them, but if I sent you the ODT files, could you convert 'Using FreeDOS' and '23 Years of FreeDOS' and 'Writing FreeDOS Programs in C' into AMB format? Jim On Sat, Dec

Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

This is great! I tried it and enjoyed that I could read the FreeDOS Help as an AMB, with links to each section in the Help. This makes me wonder if we could adapt this to become a new version of the FreeDOS Help system. I'm thinking maybe we could create an alias or "shortcut" COM program that lau

Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

This person has been banned for spamming the group. On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:36 AM Kai Ketelhut wrote: > Ml > > -- > Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sic > > Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > On 07/12/2020, 18:34 Kai Ketelhut wrote: > >> Stanca >> >> -- >> Lic.

Re: [Freedos-user] new user with questions

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 10:57 AM Jamie Le Tual wrote: > Hey there. > I tried installing both 1.2 and 1.3rc and managed to get something with a > command prompt, but GCC.EXE --version dies with a segfault and PERL.EXE > seems to have been compiled to use a library path which looks like the > mainta

Re: [Freedos-user] Funny thing about DOSBox-x

Interesting. I run FreeDOS, in QEMU on Linux. The "Linux" part doesn't matter, QEMU should be the same on any platform - they also support MacOS and Windows . With all defaults in FreeDOS 1.3 RC3, I have 628k as the largest executable program size. On Fri, Nov 27,

Re: [Freedos-user] Possible zoom metting?

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 11:18 AM dmccunney wrote: > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 5:39 PM wrote: > > > > Are you guys planning another Zoom meeting? Depending on the time and > day, I might be able to join in also, but, I seem to have lost the original > mail about it. > > Please note that the previou

Re: [Freedos-user] Possible zoom metting?

The last time we got together, we thought we should do another one in early December. I haven't set it up yet. We'll probably do it on *Saturday, December 5* or *Sunday, December 6*. The specific time of day is tricky, considering all time zones. The get-together in late June was 9am US/Central, a

Re: [Freedos-user] Floppy fetish search

I don't need the actual floppies - but I'd love to have a photo of them. I also teach a class on Management Information Systems, and I sometimes talk about computing history. Would be good to have a few more photos of old media to include. You can email me offlist. Jim On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 3:

Re: [Freedos-user] Registration

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 6:02 AM Роман Божко via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hello, to those who see. > I registered, but what next? The system asks for a login, I don't know it. > The system asking for a login is probably Sourceforge, correct? If so, you don't need

Re: [Freedos-user] Run Linux & Linux binaries on DOS

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:06 PM Thomas Mueller wrote: > [..] > I remember there was a DR-DOS 8 that used GPL parts from FreeDOS, but that > had to be withdrawn from the market due to legal challenges, using > open-source GPL parts in a closed-source system. > > Yes, I was one of the folks who con

Re: [Freedos-user] Run Linux & Linux binaries on DOS

After poking around the GitHub project, this is actually a very clever thing. Looks like he's using VM86 mode (requires '386 or later CPU) to instantiate a dedicated Linux kernel with BusyBox to run the Linux commands. This is not bringing up a full Linux installation in a VM - this is only the ker

Re: [Freedos-user] Run Linux & Linux binaries on DOS

I had a brief twitter conversation with him when he originally announced it on twitter. The first announcement used MS-DOS, but he was able to get this to work with FreeDOS too. Once he confirmed it worked with FreeDOS, I posted a tweet on it: https://twitter.com/FreeDOS_Project/status/13083828458

Re: [Freedos-user] AA Batteries

Yes it is, and the email address that sent it has been kicked off the list. Jim On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 5:32 AM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > ZOG: > > This looks like a sales-advertisement! > -- > members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ > > > ___ > Freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] Lightning talk at State of the Source summit

in then ended up having to run out on a surprise errand, so sadly > I already missed your segment. Maybe next time... :) > > Thanks for the heads-up though! > > > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > O

[Freedos-user] Lightning talk at State of the Source summit

Hi everyone! If you're online as I send this, you might like to know I'm doing a Lightning Talk at the OSI's State of the Source summit - in just a few minutes. It's free to join! LIGHTNING TALKS > Jomar Silva, Javier Perez, Christina Hupy, Stephen Jacobs, Alyssa Wrigh

Re: [Freedos-user] BASIC

Hi Richard Sounds like you are using the FreeDOS 1.2 distribution. We unfortunately included the BW-BASIC Win32 console binary instead of the DOS binary in that release. You can download the updated version from the FreeDOS files archive at ibiblio, or use the version from FreeDOS 1.3RC2 instead.

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