Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-11 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 17:26, Bret Johnson wrote: > For older versions of FD-KEYB and KEYB programs from other places > (including MKEYB), I was thinking of maybe doing something with an > Environment variable, similar to what FreeDOS has implemented with the > COUNTRY environment

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-11 Thread Bret Johnson
> Well, a summary for both: I was thinking of providing an interface > to actually return the KeybCB, you'd have all the information (but > would be given the chance to mess around with it) :) > With that you have the entire Scancode-to-codepage (rather than > ASCII-to-scancode). Thanks, Aitor.

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-09 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello Bret! On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 05:42, Bret Johnson wrote: > I was also looking at the source code for FD-KEYB, and it looks like you > have provided several extended functions for INT 2F.ADxx that aren't listed > in RBIL. Would it be possible to add another one that would provide both >

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-06 Thread Bret Johnson
Thanks for the info, Aitor. It is indeed ugly, but doable. I was also looking at the source code for FD-KEYB, and it looks like you have provided several extended functions for INT 2F.ADxx that aren't listed in RBIL. Would it be possible to add another one that would provide both parts of the

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-06 Thread Aitor Santamaría
You can do "something" with FD-KEYB, but not easy. First of all, you have to find the KeybCB (KEYB Control Block) which is currently in use. That's the tricky part, you have to find out in the memory data blocks associated to KEYB. Then, you can walk through the KeybCB structure:

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-06 Thread Bret Johnson
> how should a KEYB scancode->keycode driver react to copdepage > changes, and how are these communictated? Well, first of all the keyboard driver should detect the current Code Page on installation and not just assume one. And, the KEYB program should work with multiple code pages when it

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-06 Thread tom ehlert
>>> Another one is that MKEYB doesn't >>> report itself correctly as a "standard" keyboard driver to other >>> programs which can cause some compatibility problems. >> no one complained so far. ever. in 15+ years. > Well, then consider this your first complaint. I don't use MKEYB for this >

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-05 Thread Bret Johnson
>> Another one is that MKEYB doesn't >> report itself correctly as a "standard" keyboard driver to other >> programs which can cause some compatibility problems. > no one complained so far. ever. in 15+ years. Well, then consider this your first complaint. I don't use MKEYB for this and other

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-05 Thread tom ehlert
> Another one is that MKEYB doesn't > report itself correctly as a "standard" keyboard driver to other > programs which can cause some compatibility problems. no one complained so far. ever. in 15+ years. how would this report look like? > MKEYB may work just fine for you, though. ;) Tom

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-02 Thread Ralf Quint
On 10/1/2021 6:58 AM, Harry wrote: Hello Eric, thanks for the continued help! I booted the PC with FD13LGCY.iso (CD-ROM) and afterwards selected "No - return to DOS" A:\>MKEYB SG (and hit enter) Bad command or filename "MKEYB" Am I doing something wrong? You probably don't have a proper

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-10-01 Thread Harry
Hello Eric, thanks for the continued help! I booted the PC with FD13LGCY.iso (CD-ROM) and afterwards selected "No - return to DOS" A:\>MKEYB SG (and hit enter) Bad command or filename "MKEYB" Am I doing something wrong? Best regards, Harry Am 29.09.2021 16:34, schrieb Eric Auer: Hi

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-29 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 21:39, Eric Auer wrote: > > This also relates to why your COUNTRY= line does not only > mention a country (for example for knowing whether you use > number style 1,000.00 or rather 1.000,00) but also mentions > the codepage, which can be relevant for currency signs

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-29 Thread Eric Auer
> While MKEYB is small, there's a lot of things it doesn't do that the > larger KEYB program does that you may find you need or at least be > useful. > > One of them is the manipulation and correct handling of different > Code Pages as Aitor indicated. Another one is that MKEYB doesn't >

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-29 Thread Bret Johnson
While MKEYB is small, there's a lot of things it doesn't do that the larger KEYB program does that you may find you need or at least be useful. One of them is the manipulation and correct handling of different Code Pages as Aitor indicated. Another one is that MKEYB doesn't report itself

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-29 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 16:36, Eric Auer wrote: > Not sure what you mean by mkeyb.de and that > Language: de,858 or sg,858 line? Might be a > sort of config file for the config/autoexec > creation mechanism of the installer, so I > guess Jerome or Mateusz can tell us more? > > I suppose

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-29 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Harry, you do not rename any files with mkeyb, you simply run the command with the name of the layout as the command line option after a space: MKEYB space SG enter :-) I have no experience with modifications of the ISO, but I would expect it to be mainly for install and live CD purposes and

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-29 Thread Harry
Thank's a lot Eric! 1. Does that mean I could rename MKYB.de to MKYB.ch and replace "Language: de, 858" with "Language: sg, 850" and remaster the ISO? 2. And putting the following line to autoexec.bat (but can only find autoexec.drf and autoexec.dbx in the FD13LGCY.iso) install=MKEYB SG

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-28 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Harry, > Sorry for the long silence and thank's a lot for your feedbacks! I > crafted a DOS622 bootfloppy which does correctly select my Swiss > German keyboard. > country=041,850,a:\dos\country.sys > install=a:\dos\keyb.com sg,,a:\dos\keyboard.sys The first line is the same as in FreeDOS,

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-28 Thread Harry
Sorry for the long silence and thank's a lot for your feedbacks! I crafted a DOS622 bootfloppy which does correctly select my Swiss German keyboard. It did take much much longer than I expected :) ---Config.sys---

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-24 Thread Bret Johnson
> {harr...@vtxmail.ch} > > {.ch is the country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Switzerland in > the Domain Name System of the Internet.} I understand that, but that really has nothing to do with what keyboard layout he wants to use. There are two "standard" keyboard layouts for Switzerland, a

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-23 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Dear Bret: There is, but you'll need to provide a little more detail -- specifically which keyboard layout you're wanting to use (presumably one that matches your country, language/dialect, and physical keyboard layout). {harr...@vtxmail.ch} {.ch is the country code top-level domain

Re: [Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-23 Thread Bret Johnson
Harry: > Is there a way to change the Keyboard layout as well? There is, but you'll need to provide a little more detail -- specifically which keyboard layout you're wanting to use (presumably one that matches your country, language/dialect, and physical keyboard layout). International

[Freedos-user] changing keyboard layout after booting from CD-ROM

2021-09-23 Thread Harry
Hello list, I booted FreeDOS (FD1.3 lgcy) from CD(without installing it to hdd) and selected "my" language:) Is there a way to change the Keyboard layout as well? Thank's a lot for any help! Harry ___ Freedos-user mailing list