> Regrettably, I ran into another problem: apparently the CD I burned was
> roughed up too badly for the installation to complete. It died while
> trying to install UDVD2, due to a read error. And that was my last
> CD-R.
as you don't describe in detail what you did we can only guess :<<
Hi Felix, welcome to FreeDOS!
If you do not like dosbox, you may want to try
dosemu2 in Linux. That way, you can use Linux
audio drivers and speech synthesizers, which is
probably easier than using DOS ones, while still
being able to switch away from dosbox.
While dosemu2 is more modern, you
I booted from floppy
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 02:45 tom ehlert wrote:
> > Regrettably, I ran into another problem: apparently the CD I burned was
> > roughed up too badly for the installation to complete. It died while
> > trying to install UDVD2, due to a read error. And that was my last
> >
Dear FreeDOS community,
it's great to be here, and amazing that a project such as FreeDOS
exists, preserving access to some of the greatest software ever
written.
My name is Felix Grützmacher. I am 39, I work as a software developer
in assistive technology, and I was born blind. In my spare time I
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:47:33AM -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
> It's amazing to me that so many people still use 486s with FreeDOS.
For most DOS applications 486 is kind of "numbercruncher" - and, besides,
if you use Intel 486 CPU you'll get fanless "silent PC" (AMD 486 requires
fan; I mean at least
Hello Felix,
I am sorry that I will provide no helpful advice here, only (probably
dumb) questions. I am not blind and I have no experience whatsoever in
this area.
FreeDOS - and DOS in general - is a text-based system, hence one could
technically imagine that a virtualization platform
Hi Eric!
Thank you for your helpful suggestions! While they may ultimately come
in handy if all else fails, I was actually hoping, coming from
operating system A, that I would not have to familiarize myself with
operating system C first in order to then use operating system B. In
fact, since I
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 9:17 PM Eric Auer wrote:
> PS: I believe Pocketbook uses Linux or Android based firmware. They
> are known for NOT locking users to a shop and do well with PDF, too.
IIRC. Android. The Kindle also uses Android, and because Android uses
a Linux kernel and Linux is open
On 3/15/2020 4:16 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
...and you have discovered how many Linux distributions manage their
screen reader and speech synthesis.
It has not, as of yet, been done in DOS to my knowledge.
One major major reason is the poor sound quality.
Well, talking about "as of yet" in
Thanks for the clarifications. From what I understand so far:
1. You run Windows
2. You'd like to play some old DOS text-based games
3. You have software able to read text aloud from a virtual serial port
4. You own a TSR that is able to read screen and output text to RS-232
5. You currently use
I'm working with an EVOC brand SBC on a PICMG 1.0 backplane.
I have not been able to get floppy disk support in Freedos 1.3, period.
I know USB 1.1 isn't part of the DOS specification that freedos is targeting,
but a USB floppy driver is needed since that is what this particular SBC offers.
Mateusz
I just really screwed up your name, I apologize.
Do not hold that against me in writing privately, I do have a question for
you. I will answer a couple of questions for you below though, stating
firmly that they do not apply to freedos.
In context.
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Mateusz
hi,
disregard anything Eric says off list, he knows nothing about the way
these tools work and should not be considered an expert.
His description is totally wrong.
As I stated at the start another freedos member Joseph already has a
talking edition of freedos working.
Likewise as Felix
Hi Felix: Since you’re usig DOSBox, and the description of your setup, I think you have everything you need to run FreeDOS. If you want to try it, you can get VMWare Player for free and install it. I put together a version of FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 a couple months ago. Here is the instruction files I
Hi! As inspired by the current thread about screen readers etc.:
> One reason why those used to speech synthesis dislike tools l such
> as Kindles though is because the speech quality is poor and the
> pronounciation abilities reprehensible. [but Apple might be better?]
Excuse the off-topic,
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:28 AM ZB wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:47:33AM -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
>
> > It's amazing to me that so many people still use 486s with FreeDOS.
>
> For most DOS applications 486 is kind of "numbercruncher" - and, besides,
> if you use Intel 486 CPU you'll get
Hi mateusz,
First profound apologies for messing up your name.
You know, I bet Joseph the person behind the talking freedos did not even
consider that one. I have a copy, and if it is indeed open source that
might be worth exploring.
Granted I would have to read documentation again, but
Hello Karen, indeed the screen-reading protocols seem to be not as easy
as I imagined they would be. Eric hinted off-list that they may work on
a phonem-by-phonem base rather than being able to process "normal"
written phrases. Also it seems each screen reader uses its own protocol.
PROVOX
>> I bet Freedos could be in place of MS-DOS if you only use HIMEMX.
Q-Soft for the Tyco QSP-2 installs to MS-DOS 5.22 and is a real time system on
the DOS side. It installs via actual floppy disk. If you are running the GUI
computer (Windows 9x) on say QEMU and emulating the floppy... but
Hi Mateusz,
> Hello Karen, indeed the screen-reading protocols seem to be not as easy
> as I imagined they would be. Eric hinted off-list that they may work on
> a phonem-by-phonem base rather than being able to process "normal"
> written phrases. Also it seems each screen reader uses its own
Oh, and while I cannot speak to other products, dectalk synthesizers can
and do speak in multiple languages.
french Spanish, Korean, and Hebrew to name a few.
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Eric Auer wrote:
Hi Mateusz,
Hello Karen, indeed the screen-reading protocols seem to be not as easy
as I
Well, Eric never claimed to be an expert in the subject, but nonetheless
it is always interesting to hear different hypothesis from peers. Even
failed hypothesis are valuable steps of the learning process. :)
One can resolve some of these issues by using the actual drivers
provided by the
Hi Felix,
My name is karen lewellen, and I have used DOS the real thing, not a
simulator, for approximately 32 years.
while I have never used freedos, I can tell you that A member here,
Joseph has recently created a fully functional and talking edition of
freedos.
Including on board dos
Hello Mateusz,
there is no such thing as a dumb question when asked in the spirit in
which you are asking. Let me clarify inline below:
> FreeDOS - and DOS in general - is a text-based system, hence one could
> technically imagine that a virtualization platform could be able to
> provide an
Sorry for the double-post, but I forgot to mention one detail:
The old DOS screen readers worked in two ways: (a) by hijacking
interrupt 21h so they'd be the first to know when a program wrote to
the screen, and to grab (and act upon) keystrokes. (b) by directly
accessing the video buffer to
Hi Felix,
actually Linux and Windows are rather similar to use
for sighted people, just click around in menus. While
it is possible to have speech or Braille (if you use
that?) already on during the install, I would feel a
lot safer with having separate machines for separate
operating systems.
On 15/03/2020 23:06, Eric Auer wrote:
A quick look at the rather exotic Assembly dialect sources of PROVOX
tells me that there is no obvious text to phoneme translation algorithm
but just tables on how to pronounce special chars or to spell out things
char by char when the user requests that.
Again, ignore Eric, he has no first hand experiencing coding screen
readers to do anything let alone using them..
One can resolve some of these issues by using the actual drivers provided
by the actual programs themselves.
My understanding from Joseph, is that he has coded the b which stands
On 15/03/2020 21:34, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Including on board dos screen readers ASAP and Tinytalk.
Interesting. After a short search I found a TSR screen reader called
"PROVOX", which appears to be open-source. Is this something worth
looking at? So far I was able to load it under FreeDOS
On 3/15/2020 9:11 AM, Felix G. wrote:
And if the last few paragraphs have made no sense whatsoever, consider
my question to be as follows: What is the established route by which a
blind user may install and use FreeDOS?
Well, if you do not have hardware that allows for access to a speech
One more very important point, especially for those who do not use tools
of this kind.
In many ways adaptive technology serves as an extension of, or even
substitution for an individual's hands, or eyes, or brain, or ears, or
even a combination of some of these.
That means that a screen
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 6:28 AM ZB wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:47:33AM -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
> > It's amazing to me that so many people still use 486s with FreeDOS.
>
> For most DOS applications 486 is kind of "numbercruncher"
My 486s, back in the day, were quite slow and
Hi Michael,
> I'm working with an EVOC brand SBC on a PICMG 1.0 backplane.
That sounds exotic, but still your BIOS has a menu item
where you can enable an on-board hardware floppy controller.
Do you imply that there is no header on the board to plug
a classic floppy to that classic controller?
Thanks FreeDOS community for such a heartening, community-minded response to
Felix's situation. It's amazing, well done team and I hope that one or multiple
satisfactory solutions can be worked out for sight-impaired users. Imagine if
the Aladdin's Cave of archived IF (interactive fiction)
Hi there,
Answering one point below.
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Mateusz Viste wrote:
Well, Eric never claimed to be an expert in the subject, but nonetheless it
is always interesting to hear different hypothesis from peers. Even failed
hypothesis are valuable steps of the learning process. :)
Is the problem not having floppy capability on real hardware? Maybe you have
USB but not ATAPI cdrom?
Freedos as far as I know does not support USB let alone USB floppy drives. If
you don't have IDE or you
have an external USB drive such as a DVD burner... that doesn't help you get
it
> I'm working with an EVOC brand SBC on a PICMG 1.0 backplane.
> I have not been able to get floppy disk support in Freedos 1.3, period.
as far as I understand it, you have been working with MSDOS 6.x for
the last 25 years.
I recommend another 20 years.
the alternative would have been to
Oh the audio book resource for everyone idea is fantastic.
Most of those I know personally who use tts tools for reading on devices
like Kindles do not experience sight issues. after all the audio book
industry has been a multi-billion one for decades.
One reason why those used to speech
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