[Freedos-user] XMS Memory usage on a 286?
I am trying to use FreeDOS on a weird old electronic message board,
which is driven by a headless 80286 motherboard. My only access is via
a floppy drive, and I do not have the ability to use a normal VGA
video card. So instead I create a boot disk which writes test results
to a log file.
I need to create a RAMdisk using the spare memory above 640k, but a
large chunk of XMS is being consumed for some unknown purpose.
The standard FreeDOS kernel in FreeDOS 1.0 / fdbasecd.iso doesn't work
on this 286 and hangs during boot. So instead I am using the updated
kernel from:
http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/by-others/ke2007sep07.zip
As mentioned here:
http://bugzilla.freedos.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1755
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FDCONFIG.SYS looks like this:
DEVICE=A:FDXMS286.SYS
DOS=LOW,NOUMB
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AUTOEXEC.BAT looks like this:
mem /c log.txt
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Log file results:
Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total Conventional Upper Memory
SYSTEM 63,360 (62K) 63,360 (62K) 0(0K)
FDXMS286 1,664(2K) 1,664(2K) 0(0K)
COMMAND 3,296(3K) 3,296(3K) 0(0K)
Free 586,960 (573K)586,960 (573K) 0(0K)
Memory TypeTotal Used Free
Conventional 640K67K 573K
Upper 0K 0K 0K
Reserved 384K 384K 0K
Extended (XMS) 2,549K 1,689K 860K
Total memory3,573K 2,140K 1,433K
Total under 1 MB 640K67K 573K
Largest executable program size 573K (586,832 bytes)
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This log file is mystifying... so there's a total of 2.5 meg XMS
available, but something is consuming 1.6 meg of that?
I need as much free XMS as possible for the RAM disk. How do I find
out what is using that XMS, and how do I free it all up?
-Dale
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Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS?
I wish you luck. I was trying to make a boot DVD or CD and run freedos from that. I think after all I heard and or was told that couldn't happen. I wanted to do that because like just like you I found that FreeDos was what Steve Gibson used in SpinRite. I did get my system to partially boot from the CD but not enough to make FreeDos usable and run booted from the CD. Ron Spruell Sr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:32 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS? Ron, Thanks. I understand that. However the FreeDOS on that CD doesn't have support for USB hard drives. From what I can tell I need to add a USBASPI driver. From what little I remember about DOS I have to add that in config.sys, and that means editing something and burning a new CD that has the ASPI driver on it. Am I mistaken? Does FreeDOS allow me to insert a driver while the system is live, like I can do in Linux? If not then what I think I need to do is set up my own FreeDOS disk that has the driver on it. Thanks, Mark On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Ron Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just drop out of Spinrite and you are in FreeDos. Ron Spruell Sr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Spruell Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:01 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS? SpinRite use freedos to run. When you boot SpinRite it boots into freedos. That's the operating system he uses. Ron Spruell Sr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:05 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS? Hi, Completely new to the list. First post. Be gentle. ;-) I have a program called SpinRite used for checking hard drives. On the Gibson Research page they state that if I can see drives under DOS then there's a good chance that SpinRite can test the drives. I'd like to try that under FreeDOS. (Note that they use FreeDOS on their bootable distribution.) The input I got from their tech support folks was that it's hit and miss WRT the USB controllers in the specific machine but I've got a number of machines that I could try so hopefully I've got a chance. I'm looking for any reasonable solution that might allow me to do this. My ideas are: 1) A prebuilt FreeDOS ISO image that has some USB drivers in config.sys supporting OHCI, EHCI or UHCI USB controllers, as well as supporting a CD-ROM. With this I could try running SpinRite from a second CD after booting FreeDOS. I've done this with FreeDOS already and it works but the FreeDOS ISO image I downloaded doesn't seem to support USB. 2) Failing that (or in addition to) I'd like to build my own FreeDOS bootable CD where I set up the drivers I want to load. I've found a couple of USB DOS drivers that I could try if I placed them in config.sys. If there some other way to try this I'll take any inputs. I'd even be fine with running FreeDOS in a Linux terminal if it can access the drives via the Linux kernel. Thanks in advance, Mark - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -
Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS?
OK, thanks. I'll keep trying. I've got some spare disk space on one of my machines so it seems that maybe I should first get USB working on that and then worry about doing it from a CD. Note that the Linux tools are fairly reasonable for making bootable CDs if you want to try them out. I'm just starting to work with them myself. - Mark On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Ron Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish you luck. I was trying to make a boot DVD or CD and run freedos from that. I think after all I heard and or was told that couldn't happen. I wanted to do that because like just like you I found that FreeDos was what Steve Gibson used in SpinRite. I did get my system to partially boot from the CD but not enough to make FreeDos usable and run booted from the CD. Ron Spruell Sr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:32 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS? Ron, Thanks. I understand that. However the FreeDOS on that CD doesn't have support for USB hard drives. From what I can tell I need to add a USBASPI driver. From what little I remember about DOS I have to add that in config.sys, and that means editing something and burning a new CD that has the ASPI driver on it. Am I mistaken? Does FreeDOS allow me to insert a driver while the system is live, like I can do in Linux? If not then what I think I need to do is set up my own FreeDOS disk that has the driver on it. Thanks, Mark On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Ron Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just drop out of Spinrite and you are in FreeDos. Ron Spruell Sr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Spruell Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:01 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS? SpinRite use freedos to run. When you boot SpinRite it boots into freedos. That's the operating system he uses. Ron Spruell Sr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:05 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS? Hi, Completely new to the list. First post. Be gentle. ;-) I have a program called SpinRite used for checking hard drives. On the Gibson Research page they state that if I can see drives under DOS then there's a good chance that SpinRite can test the drives. I'd like to try that under FreeDOS. (Note that they use FreeDOS on their bootable distribution.) The input I got from their tech support folks was that it's hit and miss WRT the USB controllers in the specific machine but I've got a number of machines that I could try so hopefully I've got a chance. I'm looking for any reasonable solution that might allow me to do this. My ideas are: 1) A prebuilt FreeDOS ISO image that has some USB drivers in config.sys supporting OHCI, EHCI or UHCI USB controllers, as well as supporting a CD-ROM. With this I could try running SpinRite from a second CD after booting FreeDOS. I've done this with FreeDOS already and it works but the FreeDOS ISO image I downloaded doesn't seem to support USB. 2) Failing that (or in addition to) I'd like to build my own FreeDOS bootable CD where I set up the drivers I want to load. I've found a couple of USB DOS drivers that I could try if I placed them in config.sys. If there some other way to try this I'll take any inputs. I'd even be fine with running FreeDOS in a Linux terminal if it can access the drives via the Linux kernel. Thanks in advance, Mark - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javao ne ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS?
Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Completely new to the list. First post. Be gentle. ;-) I have a program called SpinRite used for checking hard drives. On the Gibson Research page they state that if I can see drives under DOS then there's a good chance that SpinRite can test the drives. I'd like to try that under FreeDOS. (Note that they use FreeDOS on their bootable distribution.) The input I got from their tech support folks was that it's hit and miss WRT the USB controllers in the specific machine but I've got a number of machines that I could try so hopefully I've got a chance. I'm looking for any reasonable solution that might allow me to do this. My ideas are: 1) A prebuilt FreeDOS ISO image that has some USB drivers in config.sys supporting OHCI, EHCI or UHCI USB controllers, as well as supporting a CD-ROM. With this I could try running SpinRite from a second CD after booting FreeDOS. I've done this with FreeDOS already and it works but the FreeDOS ISO image I downloaded doesn't seem to support USB. 2) Failing that (or in addition to) I'd like to build my own FreeDOS bootable CD where I set up the drivers I want to load. I've found a couple of USB DOS drivers that I could try if I placed them in config.sys. If there some other way to try this I'll take any inputs. I'd even be fine with running FreeDOS in a Linux terminal if it can access the drives via the Linux kernel. Thanks in advance, Mark - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Hi! I don`t know the application SpinRite. But like most harddisk recovery and deep harddisk scan applications it may talk directly to the IDE controller (raw read with own file system drivers). Therefore if it does not have native support to scan USB harddisks then it doesn`t matter if you add USB drivers or not. At least them would have some support informations about this... I made similar experience with EasyRecovery (a very similar application with a dos based rescue floppy). You are lucky if you can get USB harddisks to run in dos. But them are removable non ide disks. Them have basic functions, the operating system can work with them and you can install normal applications. What them are still not is a full replacement for internal harddisks. If any hardware near application is also made to analysis USB harddisks then it will come with some instructions to get the driver working. My advise is not to do to much fiddling and force an legacy application to do something it wasn`t made for. Btw: if you don`t know already. Most (I did not find any whos not) external USB harddisk is just a normal harddisk with an USB enclose. You can unplug this harddisk and stick it in your comp like an normal internal harddisk also. Maybe get rather a more up to date software for this purpose. best regards Michael Reichenbach - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS?
Small remark, if you still like to fiddle with USB for DOS I advise this driver disk. Worked very well for me and I was able to extract the driver I need myself. http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/index.html Also the DR-DOS wiki has very good informations. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/?n=Main.USB - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] driver for onboard sound chip?
Hi Michael, I have onboard sound. In Windows I am using a driver called C-Media AC97 Audio device. Only a few new games and software like MPXPLAY media player for DOS can use AC97 directly, but as you see, it can be done :-). In DOS it`s called SiS 7012 Sound Codec. MidiPort 330, Compatibility n/a, Roland MPU-401, everything else (dma, irq...) n/a. The old sb16 drivers, the one from via and one from SiS with another number (SiS 7018) are not working. You might be able to trick the other driver into working for your chip, but you should do some research first. For example try to compare chip data sheets on the internet. No need to check the deep details, just get an impression. Only after that, check here or on bttr-software.de forum whether somebody can help you to play with the driver. Therefore I guess I have no way to get this onboard soundchip to work in DOS with also no way to get sb16 compatibility? There is one generic solution: A driver which traps all attempts to access SB16 soundblaster hardware and forwards the collected sound data to a driver for AC97. This is how the drivers for SBLive and SBPCI work - those two PCI soundcards do not actually have SB16 hardware, they are AC97 and come with a trap style DOS driver. Problem is that only EMM386 compatible games work with it, as the hardware trap needs protected mode, as does EMM386... You should check the BTTR forum mentioned above: A while ago there was some talk about collecting donations for funding for writing a free open source SB16 to AC97 driver, for example based on the virtual soundcard code of DOSEMU or Bochs combined with the AC97 driver of the MPXPLAY player or another OS, e.g. Alsa-project drivers. Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XMS Memory usage on a 286?
Hi Dale, I am trying to use FreeDOS on a weird old electronic message board, which is driven by a headless 80286 motherboard. My only access is via a floppy drive, and I do not have the ability to use a normal VGA... The standard FreeDOS kernel in FreeDOS 1.0 / fdbasecd.iso doesn't work on this 286 and hangs during boot. It is a 386+ kernel because you cannot boot a CDROM from pre-386... Bootable CD came around the time of 486/Pentium BIOS, and BTMGR boot loader (which can be run from diskette) can only boot CDROM from 386+. www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/by-others/ke2007sep07.zip As...: bugzilla.freedos.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1755 Hm that bug is about lack of 286 compatibility in 2004... However, newer ways to work on old computers are: Joris' FreeDOS 1.0 basics for 8086: www.xs4all.nl/~rjoris/freedos.html Joris took 1.0 and put only 8086 compatible files on a single floppy. Rugxulo's FreeDOS 1.1 basics: http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/ This is a 3 diskette distro with many updates compared to 1.0, because do not have 1.1 on CDROM yet. maybe you could help with the latter? The three disks are: 386+ bootable, 8086 bootable with some extra drivers for 286 users and with 4dos shell instead of command.com. All three disks are filled with other tools, so if you would install to harddisk, you would copy files from ALL disks after booting from ONE of them :-). mem /c log.txt Mem also has options to show detailled XMS usage info, try that... SYSTEM 63,360 (62k) 63,360 (62k) 0(0k) FDXMS286 1,664(2k) 1,664(2k) 0(0k) COMMAND 3,296(3k) 3,296(3k) 0(0k) Free 586,960 (573k)586,960 (573k) 0(0k) Please use DOS=HIGH, this lets DOS use the HMA to give you 40k or so of reduced low memory usage, so you get 600k+ instead of 573k free, plus the HMA cannot be recycled to get more XMS space anyway. Extended (XMS) 2,549K 1,689K 860K Total memory3,573K 2,140K 1,433K I need as much free XMS as possible for the RAM disk. How do I find out what is using that XMS, and how do I free it all up? Try using MEM /x ... you can also do MEM /c /x to get more info :-). You get a list of handles and sizes for XMS. It might be that your MEM just displayed wrong values because FDXMS286 behaves odd with DOS=LOW, but I do not think that FDXMS286 behaves odd... You may also already have a ramdisk loaded...? Typical XMS usage in a small FreeDOS installation is just 100k (maybe more, but at most 200k) for the FreeCOM command.com XMS swap functionality. This allows our command.com shell to use only a few kilobytes in the first 640k and move the rest to XMS while not needed, avoiding the need to reload data from disk when it is needed again... This is why in your log file COMMAND is listed as taking only 3 kilobytes :-). Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS?
Thanks very much! I'm certainly interested in any drivers that folks here have used successfully. Cheers, Mark On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Michael Reichenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Small remark, if you still like to fiddle with USB for DOS I advise this driver disk. Worked very well for me and I was able to extract the driver I need myself. http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/index.html Also the DR-DOS wiki has very good informations. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/?n=Main.USB - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS?
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Michael Reichenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Hi! Hi to you too! I don`t know the application SpinRite. But like most harddisk recovery and deep harddisk scan applications it may talk directly to the IDE controller (raw read with own file system drivers). Absolutely, or more accurately (as I understand it anyway) these applications talk to any device that has Int 13 and Extended Int 13 support. IDE controllers almost certainly all do this for compatibility. Therefore if it does not have native support to scan USB harddisks then it doesn`t matter if you add USB drivers or not. At least them would have some support informations about this... According to the folks who make SpinRite some of the USB drivers also support Int 13 and translate the commands into something that can be carried across the USB bus. At that point it gets to the drive and is translated back into something that is understood by the IDE drive inside the USB drive case. The trick here is that USB becomes almost nothing more than a connection technology to get the command from the processor to the drive. I made similar experience with EasyRecovery (a very similar application with a dos based rescue floppy). You are lucky if you can get USB harddisks to run in dos. But them are removable non ide disks. Them have basic functions, the operating system can work with them and you can install normal applications. What them are still not is a full replacement for internal harddisks. I don't intend to use these USB drives in DOS for any reason other than testing. SpinRite is a DOS program. I want to test the hard drive in the drive case. I'm hopeing to do it over USB so that I don't have to take the drive out of the case, install it in a system, test it, take it out of the system, reinstall in the case and probably break something along the way. If any hardware near application is also made to analysis USB harddisks then it will come with some instructions to get the driver working. My advise is not to do to much fiddling and force an legacy application to do something it wasn`t made for. Btw: if you don`t know already. Most (I did not find any whos not) external USB harddisk is just a normal harddisk with an USB enclose. You can unplug this harddisk and stick it in your comp like an normal internal harddisk also. Yes, completely understood. Maybe get rather a more up to date software for this purpose. Possibly. For now I own this one and use it on all my system's internal drives. I'd now like to use it on these external drives if possible. Thanks! - Mark best regards Michael Reichenbach - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB hard drive support (non-booting) under FreeDOS?
Hi Mark, I have a program called SpinRite used for checking hard drives. On the Gibson Research page they state that if I can see drives under DOS then there's a good chance that SpinRite can test the drives. What sort of checking do you want to do? 1) A prebuilt FreeDOS ISO image that has some USB drivers in config.sys supporting OHCI, EHCI or UHCI USB controllers, as well as supporting a CD-ROM. With this I could try running SpinRite from a second CD after booting FreeDOS. I've done this with FreeDOS already and it works but the FreeDOS ISO image I downloaded doesn't seem to support USB. One CDROM should be enough, just put both DOS and Spinrite on it. The problem is that most USB drivers for DOS are not free enough to put them on some official DOS CDROM, but you can often download them from the official homepages of the drivers, or from other web places... I myself use USBASPI4 and ASPIDISK - or simply the BIOS, as newer BIOSes make USB disks and sticks visible to DOS without further drivers - if the disk/stick is already plugged in when the BIOS boots up. For USB 2.0 speed, I believe DUSE is an okay choice. If there some other way to try this I'll take any inputs. I'd even be fine with running FreeDOS in a Linux terminal if it can access the drives via the Linux kernel. Our wiki and FAQ has some nice info about the USB topic, try this: www.google.com/search?q=site%3Afd-doc.sourceforge.net+usb Note that if you use spinrite for lowlevel things then using Linux as gateway is not a good idea. Better use Linux tools directly in this case, such as hdparm (drive and speed info) and smartmontools (smartctl, to display drive health info) and dosfsck (like CHKDSK and SCANDISK) and similar :-). Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Links2 and Elinks for DOS...
How can I find the DOS source code for these packages? Under the GNU GPL, section 3, you must provide source code when you distribute the binary. I was trying to do the Right Thing by mirroring the source code to ibiblio as well ... didn't find it on his site, so was going to grab from the original source. However, elinks (under the GNU GPL v2) is labelled 'elinks-0.13-20080425'. But the last release of elinks on http://elinks.cz/download.html is 0.11, and the unstable snapshot from GIT is 0.12. So there's no 0.13 to be found. Where did he get the source? I'm not mirroring this to ibiblio until I can distribute the same sources too. Same thing for links (no source code on mik.dyndns.org) but the binary package has a 'links-2.1pre33' label, and there is a release of links on http://links.twibright.com/download/ of that version. So I'll mirror that to ibiblio. Don't know if any changes needed to compile the DOS version. Technically, this is a GNU GPL violation. -jh On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Florian Xaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...is available now!! :-) Download them at http://mik.dyndns.org/dos-stuff/ Both are small web-browsers! (I haven't tested it now, but I will...) Please post your results of test! - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Links2 and Elinks for DOS...
Hi! on http://elinks.cz/download.html ... on http://links.twibright.com/download/ ... Technically, this is a GNU GPL violation. It seems that sources are supposed to be somewhere here: http://mik.dyndns.org/debian-cross/dists/sarge/djgpp/ but I did not manage to look into any details so far... maybe you can find the right files there :-) Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Links2 and Elinks for DOS...
I eventually found the link at http://mik.dyndns.org/dos-stuff/src/ which led me to the diffs for links. But not elinks (he grabbed from the source tree on 20080425, but I don't have a copy of the source that he used.) I mirrored the diffs for links, but I don't know how to get all the source for elinks so I didn't get that. If someone can point me to them, I will grab them. -jh On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! on http://elinks.cz/download.html ... on http://links.twibright.com/download/ ... Technically, this is a GNU GPL violation. It seems that sources are supposed to be somewhere here: http://mik.dyndns.org/debian-cross/dists/sarge/djgpp/ but I did not manage to look into any details so far... maybe you can find the right files there :-) Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] driver for onboard sound chip?
Hi! FYI, 404 Not Found http://bttr-software.de/ Interesting, the page only works if you add the www: http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum.php :-) Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
