Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: vmsmount, a driver for mounting VMware's shared folders in DOS
At 03:02 PM 10/13/2011, Eduardo Casino wrote: >2011/10/10 Ralf A. Quint : > > At 01:38 PM 10/9/2011, Eduardo Casino wrote: > > > >>Would you be so kind of testing it in one of your 286? It should fail > >>with "ERROR: Not running on top of VMWARE." > >> > >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/vmsmount/files/Test/ > > Will do. Unfortunately, the best machine to test it on, an IBM PS/2 > > Model 50Z is at the very bottom of a stack in my closet, have to pull > > it out later. I have two 286 clones easier accessible but realized > > last night that I did not get the matching EGA/Monochrome monitors > > out of my storage... > >Hi Ralf, > >I've just tested it inside fake86, a 8086 PC emulator >(http://fake86.rubbermallet.org) and it produces an exception. I've >then re-compiled using just 8086 instructions for main.c and kitten.c >and leaving the pentium optimizations for the rest of the files and it >works. And size is only increased by 6 bytes :) > >I'll fix it for the next release. Thanks, I got the IBM yanked out but then "life happened" and I haven't been able to get back to my workbench yet, will see that I can do this later tonight... Ralf -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
The USB drivers make a flash drive look like a removable hard drive, not a floppy drive (though the drivers will also work with a USB floppy drive). You can't start with a floppy image. If the BIOS will correctly boot from an external USB hard drive or flash drive, you can simply use the standard DOS tools and the disk should be directly bootable. You don't need to use a multi-stage process that involves booting another program, creating a RAMDISK and copying a floppy image, and booting from it (which is the way a lot of *nix-based software works). You can copy and delete and move files all you want to directly on the disk, without needing to manipulate an image. The problem you'll run into is that not all BIOS's work like they're supposed to, and won't boot correctly. Some will and some won't. Also, even if a flash drive comes formatted as a "super-floppy" (no MBR), you can re-partition it (with FDISK or Ranish Partition Manager or some other DOS utility) so that it does have an MBR if that's what you want. The drivers should work correctly whether it has an MBR or not. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
Op 14-10-2011 0:55, Wayne Graves schreef: > I can boot anything and I have a system in the corner that has 12 TB of > disk on it which I can build anything on. I just want to know how to get > a bootable USB up with freedos running and maybe this will do it, thanks. The difficult way I used was using the HP Windows USB tool, including MSDOS system files. Then already copy FreeDOS files, boot from USB, run SYS C: and have FreeDOS installed. Another way is to use the HP tool, then use SYSLINUX, then create a SYSLINUX.CFG file to load a DOS diskette image by MEMDISK. Boot from USB, get into Syslinux, select the disk image, boot it, and do a SYS C: I'm not entirely sure if WinImage can open a diskette image file and alter size to fit USB drive followed by writing that changed size file to the actual USB drive. Goodluck with your endeavours :) -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
I can boot anything and I have a system in the corner that has 12 TB of disk on it which I can build anything on. I just want to know how to get a bootable USB up with freedos running and maybe this will do it, thanks. From: Bernd Blaauw To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit Op 14-10-2011 0:25, Bret Johnson schreef: > Using my USB drivers, it is possible to make a bootable USB disk or > manipulate partitions just using standard DOS tools (FORMAT, FDISK, SYS, > etc.). You don't necessarily need Windows or *nix to do that. The drivers > still have a long ways to go before they're really "good", but can be useful > even in their current limited state. The problem more is like "how do I get my USB bootable with FreeDOS when all I've got is a single harddrive, and no options to boot from external sources". Perhaps the Syslinux installers can be modified/butchered to suit FreeDOS SYS. Unfortunately geometry for USB Flash drives in general is different from stick to stick, so providing standard (well-compressed) images is no option either. I'm not 100% convinced standard DOS FDISK/FORMAT/SYS will do the trick. Lots of USB Flash drives are unpartitioned, lacking MBR, partitions, bootsector etc. Also, getting an optimal (as in, bootable on as many systems as possible, thus a hybrid zip/floppy/hdd layout) geometry is tricky. I've not tried yet to run SYSLINUX on USB drives from DOS though, it might actually work as you say. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
Op 14-10-2011 0:25, Bret Johnson schreef: > Using my USB drivers, it is possible to make a bootable USB disk or > manipulate partitions just using standard DOS tools (FORMAT, FDISK, SYS, > etc.). You don't necessarily need Windows or *nix to do that. The drivers > still have a long ways to go before they're really "good", but can be useful > even in their current limited state. The problem more is like "how do I get my USB bootable with FreeDOS when all I've got is a single harddrive, and no options to boot from external sources". Perhaps the Syslinux installers can be modified/butchered to suit FreeDOS SYS. Unfortunately geometry for USB Flash drives in general is different from stick to stick, so providing standard (well-compressed) images is no option either. I'm not 100% convinced standard DOS FDISK/FORMAT/SYS will do the trick. Lots of USB Flash drives are unpartitioned, lacking MBR, partitions, bootsector etc. Also, getting an optimal (as in, bootable on as many systems as possible, thus a hybrid zip/floppy/hdd layout) geometry is tricky. I've not tried yet to run SYSLINUX on USB drives from DOS though, it might actually work as you say. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
Hi again, On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Wayne Graves wrote: > > Where do I find your USB drivers Bret and any information on how to use > them ? http://www.bretjohnson.us/ -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: vmsmount, a driver for mounting VMware's shared folders in DOS
Hi, On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Eduardo Casino wrote: > > I've just tested it inside fake86, a 8086 PC emulator > (http://fake86.rubbermallet.org) and it produces an exception. I've > then re-compiled using just 8086 instructions for main.c and kitten.c > and leaving the pentium optimizations for the rest of the files and it > works. And size is only increased by 6 bytes :) > > I'll fix it for the next release. First of all, kudos. Secondly, I didn't even know Mike C. had rewritten (or even halfway finished) his emulator in C (instead of FB). Nifty. Now the big question is which Wolf3D version is he testing with (presumably his 8086 recompile). Well, and whether Fake86 can be compiled as DOS .EXE. ;-) -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
Where do I find your USB drivers Bret and any information on how to use them ? From: Bret Johnson To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit > I'm retired and I fool around with lots of hardware, some of which > is nothing more then a motherboard, a keyboard and a lcd. Virtually > all motherboards come with a USB. Also when I have to deal with a > broken disk Spinrite is great but not if you can't boot it. Some > claim it will run great from a fob, but I have not been able to > figure out a way to boot it on a fob. Gone are the happy days when I > could key a bootloader into the console of a PDP-11, actually to > read a paper tape in and boot something else :)) > > Spinrite has an option to create a bootable floppy but it won't work > on a device it thinks is not removable and for whatever reason it > thinks all fobs are not removable, haven't looked into that. I > figure if I can boot freedos I should be able to turn around and run > Spinrite from that. Using my USB drivers, it is possible to make a bootable USB disk or manipulate partitions just using standard DOS tools (FORMAT, FDISK, SYS, etc.). You don't necessarily need Windows or *nix to do that. The drivers still have a long ways to go before they're really "good", but can be useful even in their current limited state. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
> I'm retired and I fool around with lots of hardware, some of which > is nothing more then a motherboard, a keyboard and a lcd. Virtually > all motherboards come with a USB. Also when I have to deal with a > broken disk Spinrite is great but not if you can't boot it. Some > claim it will run great from a fob, but I have not been able to > figure out a way to boot it on a fob. Gone are the happy days when I > could key a bootloader into the console of a PDP-11, actually to > read a paper tape in and boot something else :)) > > Spinrite has an option to create a bootable floppy but it won't work > on a device it thinks is not removable and for whatever reason it > thinks all fobs are not removable, haven't looked into that. I > figure if I can boot freedos I should be able to turn around and run > Spinrite from that. Using my USB drivers, it is possible to make a bootable USB disk or manipulate partitions just using standard DOS tools (FORMAT, FDISK, SYS, etc.). You don't necessarily need Windows or *nix to do that. The drivers still have a long ways to go before they're really "good", but can be useful even in their current limited state. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: vmsmount, a driver for mounting VMware's shared folders in DOS
2011/10/10 Ralf A. Quint : > At 01:38 PM 10/9/2011, Eduardo Casino wrote: > >>Would you be so kind of testing it in one of your 286? It should fail >>with "ERROR: Not running on top of VMWARE." >> >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/vmsmount/files/Test/ > Will do. Unfortunately, the best machine to test it on, an IBM PS/2 > Model 50Z is at the very bottom of a stack in my closet, have to pull > it out later. I have two 286 clones easier accessible but realized > last night that I did not get the matching EGA/Monochrome monitors > out of my storage... Hi Ralf, I've just tested it inside fake86, a 8086 PC emulator (http://fake86.rubbermallet.org) and it produces an exception. I've then re-compiled using just 8086 instructions for main.c and kitten.c and leaving the pentium optimizations for the rest of the files and it works. And size is only increased by 6 bytes :) I'll fix it for the next release. Best, Eduardo. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
I'm retired and I fool around with lots of hardware, some of which is nothing more then a motherboard, a keyboard and a lcd. Virtually all motherboards come with a USB. Also when I have to deal with a broken disk Spinrite is great but not if you can't boot it. Some claim it will run great from a fob, but I have not been able to figure out a way to boot it on a fob. Gone are the happy days when I could key a bootloader into the console of a PDP-11, actually to read a paper tape in and boot something else :)) Spinrite has an option to create a bootable floppy but it won't work on a device it thinks is not removable and for whatever reason it thinks all fobs are not removable, haven't looked into that. I figure if I can boot freedos I should be able to turn around and run Spinrite from that. UIDE ? I don't mind alpha software, I have nothing better to do :)) I will have to look at it. MicroCrap is a pain but a 75% solution to most things since you can probably buy something or find some freeware someplace that will almost do. Unfortionately it doesn't work on all itx boards. And Fobs are so much nicer then any other portable media, any CD can become damaged, fobs are very reliable and I can fit maybe 10 in my pocket and they can all be 32GB or less. If they had only had these when I started out 40+ years ago... I am aware of all the floppy stuff, thanks but no thanks. From: Rugxulo To: Wayne Graves ; freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit Hi, On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Wayne Graves wrote: > > I needed something standalone to run dos disk tools with and was hoping to > use Freedos. DOS disk tools on FreeDOS? Shouldn't be a problem. ;-) > I was also trying to figure out a way to get Spinrite to run on a fob. Spinrite (famously?) works with FreeDOS, though I've not tried personally. http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm "SpinRite is self-contained, including its own bootable FreeDOS operating system" > I don't have any systems with floppy drives anymore and I discovered > that I can't boot freedos from a CD with my current configuration, I wonder if latest UIDE would work better (assuming you're only using "old" FD 1.0 from 2006). If you're adventurous (and willing to accept alpha quality bugs), try 1.1 test #3. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1-test3/ > I suspect > it's because I am in AHCI for the SATA interfaces but having a FOB is a > better solution since I have systems that don't have a CD/DVD or a floppy No floppy I would understand (though USB drives exist), but no CD/DVD? Must be a netbook. > and all of them have USB's and if the problem is AHCI it's a pain to go into > the BIO's and switch back and forth continuously to try out some standalone > tool. Don't worry, MS Win8 will "fix" that for you. :-P > If I can build fobs with everything on them that I can boot it makes > it all earier since they are so easy to transport For completeness, I'm listing this (though you don't need floppies), aka Rawrite for Windows: http://www.chrysocome.net/rawwrite If you don't need persistent (modifiable) storage, you can use UNetBootIn: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ > and it' hard to get a CD in your pocket ;) Mini-CDs might work (e.g. "old" DamnSmallLinux swore by them) though I dunno if all drives handle them.-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading device drivers from autoexec.bat
Hi, On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > > Most .sys drivers can be loaded using the DEVLOAD program (version 3.25 > recommended), http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/devload/ > 1) No idea, 0..9 is 10 already, never needed more. Depends on the kernel, IIRC, as I vaguely remember one of them (2037 ??) not even allowing a "0" choice. But I don't know (and can't imagine) about needing more than 9. Admittedly, the menu syntax is incompatible from MS, and (IIRC) nobody ever integrated the (working?) patch for DR compatibility (which MS should've copied but didn't). Oh well. > 2) FreeDOS remembers the valid options if you have each number in use at > least once with a question mark behind it: > 0?ECHO HELLO WORLD > 0123456789?DEVICE=JEMMEX.EXE I=B000-B7FF X=TEST I=TEST NOEMS Or did she mean this (autoexec.bat): if %CONFIG%=="3" echo Third option! > 3) No nested stuff possible to my knowledge. CHOICE command could help > you out a bit more. For completeness, here's what FD Help says: http://home.mnet-online.de/willybilly/fdhelp-internet/en/hhstndrd/cnfigsys/menu.htm Also see CONFIG.TXT in kernel sources: http://freedos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/freedos/kernel/trunk/docs/config.txt?revision=1696&view=markup -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
Hi, On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Wayne Graves wrote: > > I needed something standalone to run dos disk tools with and was hoping to > use Freedos. DOS disk tools on FreeDOS? Shouldn't be a problem. ;-) > I was also trying to figure out a way to get Spinrite to run on a fob. Spinrite (famously?) works with FreeDOS, though I've not tried personally. http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm "SpinRite is self-contained, including its own bootable FreeDOS operating system" > I don't have any systems with floppy drives anymore and I discovered > that I can't boot freedos from a CD with my current configuration, I wonder if latest UIDE would work better (assuming you're only using "old" FD 1.0 from 2006). If you're adventurous (and willing to accept alpha quality bugs), try 1.1 test #3. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1-test3/ > I suspect > it's because I am in AHCI for the SATA interfaces but having a FOB is a > better solution since I have systems that don't have a CD/DVD or a floppy No floppy I would understand (though USB drives exist), but no CD/DVD? Must be a netbook. > and all of them have USB's and if the problem is AHCI it's a pain to go into > the BIO's and switch back and forth continuously to try out some standalone > tool. Don't worry, MS Win8 will "fix" that for you. :-P > If I can build fobs with everything on them that I can boot it makes > it all earier since they are so easy to transport For completeness, I'm listing this (though you don't need floppies), aka Rawrite for Windows: http://www.chrysocome.net/rawwrite If you don't need persistent (modifiable) storage, you can use UNetBootIn: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ > and it' hard to get a CD in your pocket ;) Mini-CDs might work (e.g. "old" DamnSmallLinux swore by them) though I dunno if all drives handle them. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Curses for DOS
Hi, > Re: [Freedos-user] Curses for DOS Fork queue? (FreeDOS doesn't support that. That's from VMS lore, supposedly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dave_Cutler says NT calls the same thing a "deferred procedure call".) If you need a way to publicly curse someone (esp. yourself), please go here (yes, it builds with either OW or DJGPP): http://pdcurses.sourceforge.net/ On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > Hello! > ;-) > > On Oct 13, 2011 1:25 PM, "Santiago Almenara" wrote: > > Hi list! -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
I needed something standalone to run dos disk tools with and was hoping to use Freedos. I was also trying to figure out a way to get Spinrite to run on a fob. I don't have any systems with floppy drives anymore and I discovered that I can't boot freedos from a CD with my current configuration, I suspect it's because I am in AHCI for the SATA interfaces but having a FOB is a better solution since I have systems that don't have a CD/DVD or a floppy and all of them have USB's and if the problem is AHCI it's a pain to go into the BIO's and switch back and forth continuously to try out some standalone tool. If I can build fobs with everything on them that I can boot it makes it all earier since they are so easy to transport and it' hard to get a CD in your pocket ;) From: Bernd Blaauw To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit Op 13-10-2011 21:44, Wayne Graves schreef: > Unlike .exe's you can't set compatability on .com's > > I suspect sys.com just writes the boot block on the target device ? Any > sugestions ? > Thanks Microsoft removed the 16bit compatibility layer on 64bit operating systems, sorry. As we don't have a 32bit/64bit version of SYS : * for floppies I'd recommend using WinImage and just write a downloaded FreeDOS floppy image file to diskette. * for USB flash drives I'd recommend using the HP USB Formatting tool followed by Syslinux bootloader. What are you wanting to use SYS on/for? Sometimes a virtualisation product can help a bit. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
Op 13-10-2011 21:44, Wayne Graves schreef: > Unlike .exe's you can't set compatability on .com's > > I suspect sys.com just writes the boot block on the target device ? Any > sugestions ? > Thanks Microsoft removed the 16bit compatibility layer on 64bit operating systems, sorry. As we don't have a 32bit/64bit version of SYS : * for floppies I'd recommend using WinImage and just write a downloaded FreeDOS floppy image file to diskette. * for USB flash drives I'd recommend using the HP USB Formatting tool followed by Syslinux bootloader. What are you wanting to use SYS on/for? Sometimes a virtualisation product can help a bit. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
I was trying to create a bootable fob on Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1, but sys.com won't execute,The Error I get is... This version of sys.com is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running. Check your computer's system information to see whether you need a x86 (32- bit) or x64 (64-bit) version of the program, and then contact the software publisher. Unlike .exe's you can't set compatability on .com's I suspect sys.com just writes the boot block on the target device ? Any sugestions ? Thanks-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Curses for DOS
Hello! ;-) On Oct 13, 2011 1:25 PM, "Santiago Almenara" wrote: Hi list! Sent from my iPhone -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Curses for DOS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Loading device drivers from autoexec.bat
Op 13-10-2011 20:05, Michelle Dupuis schreef: > and if I can add a question 4 to the list: > 4. Can I load device drivers from autoexec.bat? (essentially moving my > menus from config.sys to autoexec.bat) > Thanks Most drivers can be loaded from autoexec.bat and/or commandline (runtime). It's not recommended for memory drivers as you'll miss out on the benefits of DOS=HIGH , DOS=UMB and DOSDATA=UMB , especially for something like command.com itself which can consume a lot of low memory. Most .sys drivers can be loaded using the DEVLOAD program (version 3.25 recommended), other programs have a runtime commandline as well (JEMM386, JEMMEX). @echo off echo Loading CDROM driver: DEVLOAD UIDE.SYS /D:MYCDROM /N1 /N3 /B echo loading XMS driver (no HMA, sorry!) : DEVLOAD XMGR.SYS echo loading EMS driver (no UMBs, sorry!): JEMM386 LOAD echo Loading ramdisk in 2 steps: DEVLOAD /DR TDSK.EXE 100 TDSK.EXE echo Loading cd-rom extensions: SHSUCDX /D:MYCDROM,X > > *From:* Michelle Dupuis [mdup...@ocg.ca] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:28 PM > *To:* freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working > > I just found my answer in the online doc :) so now the tougher questions: > 1. Can I have more than 9 options in a menu > 2. How does freedos know that I have picked a valid option (how do I > tell freedos which numbers in use) > 3. Can I have 3 nested menus? (My current MSDOS config.sys has 3 menus, > one after the other)... 1) No idea, 0..9 is 10 already, never needed more. 2) FreeDOS remembers the valid options if you have each number in use at least once with a question mark behind it: 0?ECHO HELLO WORLD 0123456789?DEVICE=JEMMEX.EXE I=B000-B7FF X=TEST I=TEST NOEMS FreeDOS 1.0 unfortunately, when installed, had a clean boot menu choice listed but there was no other config.sys line using it, resulting in a choice that didn't work. 3) No nested stuff possible to my knowledge. CHOICE command could help you out a bit more. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading device drivers from autoexec.bat
yes, and also from the command line: just use "devload" from the distribution. "help devload" for more info. (devload is on the full dist.) "locate devload" finds it on the full install set up by the full dist. . eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com > >From: Michelle Dupuis >To: "freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net" >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:05 PM >Subject: [Freedos-user] Loading device drivers from autoexec.bat > > >and if I can add a question 4 to the list: > >4. Can I load device drivers from autoexec.bat? (essentially moving my menus >from config.sys to autoexec.bat) > >Thanks > > >From: Michelle Dupuis [mdup...@ocg.ca] >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:28 PM >To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working > > >I just found my answer in the online doc :) so now the tougher questions: > >1. Can I have more than 9 options in a menu >2. How does freedos know that I have picked a valid option (how do I tell >freedos which numbers in use) >3. Can I have 3 nested menus? (My current MSDOS config.sys has 3 menus, one >after the other)... > >Thanks > > > >From: Michelle Dupuis [mdup...@ocg.ca] >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:16 PM >To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: [Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working > > >I'm switching my MSDOS usb key to FREEDOS now, and my fancy menu system (buit >in config.sys) doesn't work under freedos (just scrolls right past during >bootup). > >Is the menu feature not available in the freedos version of config.sys? Or >does it work differently? > >Thanks >-- >All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >definitive record of customers, application performance, security >threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >___ >Freedos-user mailing list >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > >-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Loading device drivers from autoexec.bat
and if I can add a question 4 to the list: 4. Can I load device drivers from autoexec.bat? (essentially moving my menus from config.sys to autoexec.bat) Thanks From: Michelle Dupuis [mdup...@ocg.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:28 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working I just found my answer in the online doc :) so now the tougher questions: 1. Can I have more than 9 options in a menu 2. How does freedos know that I have picked a valid option (how do I tell freedos which numbers in use) 3. Can I have 3 nested menus? (My current MSDOS config.sys has 3 menus, one after the other)... Thanks From: Michelle Dupuis [mdup...@ocg.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:16 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working I'm switching my MSDOS usb key to FREEDOS now, and my fancy menu system (buit in config.sys) doesn't work under freedos (just scrolls right past during bootup). Is the menu feature not available in the freedos version of config.sys? Or does it work differently? Thanks -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working
I just found my answer in the online doc :) so now the tougher questions: 1. Can I have more than 9 options in a menu 2. How does freedos know that I have picked a valid option (how do I tell freedos which numbers in use) 3. Can I have 3 nested menus? (My current MSDOS config.sys has 3 menus, one after the other)... Thanks From: Michelle Dupuis [mdup...@ocg.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:16 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working I'm switching my MSDOS usb key to FREEDOS now, and my fancy menu system (buit in config.sys) doesn't work under freedos (just scrolls right past during bootup). Is the menu feature not available in the freedos version of config.sys? Or does it work differently? Thanks -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working
Op 13-10-2011 19:16, Michelle Dupuis schreef: > I'm switching my MSDOS usb key to FREEDOS now, and my fancy menu system > (buit in config.sys) doesn't work under freedos (just scrolls right past > during bootup). > Is the menu feature not available in the freedos version of config.sys? > Or does it work differently? > Thanks differently, I'm afraid. The person who contributed the menu system made it use numbers, which was good enough for our purposes: ; config.sys loads system drivers. Please edit to suit your needs. !SWITCHES=/F /N menucolor=7,0 menu 1) Install FreeDOS menu 2) Safe mode menu 3) LiveCD (XMS/EMS/UMB) menu 4) LiveCD (XMS) menudefault=1,120 4?DEVICE=C:\DRIVER\HIMEMX.EXE 013?DEVICE=C:\DRIVER\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST 012345?SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM c:\ /E:2048 /F /MSG /P=C:\FREEDOS\FDAUTO.BAT 0134?DOS=HIGH 034?DOS=UMB 034?DOSDATA=UMB 012345?FILES=20 012345?BUFFERS=20 012345?LASTDRIVE=Z afterwards it sets %config% to a number so can be used in batchscripts to load/do stuff depending on which option was selected. [ http://www.bootablecd.de/fdhelp-internet/en/index.htm ] might contain some specifics to use of menu system in fdconfig.sys/config.sys (and I'd recommend naming it fdconfig.sys so msdos can keep using config.sys) Bernd -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Menu in config.sys not working
I'm switching my MSDOS usb key to FREEDOS now, and my fancy menu system (buit in config.sys) doesn't work under freedos (just scrolls right past during bootup). Is the menu feature not available in the freedos version of config.sys? Or does it work differently? Thanks -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Another IT person passed away...
Hi, On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:27 AM, jhall wrote: > > Thanks for passing along the article, I hadn't heard about this. Sad news. > We're losing some big names in technology. I appreciated that the article > mentioned that Dennis's influence was as great as Steve Jobs, just less > visible. That's an understatement. I mean, somebody would have to be really clueless to not give mad props to dmr. C is still #1 or #2 (depending on where you read your stats) in overall language popularity. I blame GNU. ;-) However, dare I take this opportunity to mention that both Jobs and Ritchie have decent Wikipedia pages, but our beloved Pat has none! Sadly, I'm not really that knowledgeable about him, so I don't think I'd write a very good one. Jim? Anybody? Surely we can give him a decent legacy. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villani -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Another IT person passed away...
Thanks for passing along the article, I hadn't heard about this. Sad news. We're losing some big names in technology. I appreciated that the article mentioned that Dennis's influence was as great as Steve Jobs, just less visible. jh On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:37 AM, "Ralf A. Quint" wrote: > Was made aware that this last weekend, Dennis Ritchie, the > co-inventor of the C programming language and the Unix operating > system has passed away... :-( > > http://boingboing.net/2011/10/12/dennis-ritchie-1941-2011-computer-scientist-unix-co-creator-c-co-inventor.html > > Ralf > > > -- > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
