Hello Geraldo,
First of all, hope you all had a great christmas time!
This is interesting.
It seems the aefdisk sources are using some strange syntax extensions
which I have not seen before --- perhaps these are supported by certain
versions of tasm?
Dunno :(
But I opened a ticket for Nagy
Hello Jerome, hello Geraldo,
Seems to require borland c/tasm
Unfortunately, aefdisk won’t compile under TASM 4.1.
Tried. But, It throws a couple errors and warnings.
This is interesting.
It seems the aefdisk sources are using some strange syntax extensions
which I have not seen before ---
Hello Nils, hello Ken,
ptr_array[0] = malloc(size_of_textfile);
copy_to(file0, ptr_array[0];
ptr_array[1] = malloc(size_of_textfile);
copy_to(file1, ptr_array[1];
...
Can I still use fgets() on these pointers once the file has been loaded
there?
No, fgets wants a FILE *, which is a pointer to
Hello Joseph Norton,
I’m trying to install FreeDOS with QEMU, and I get as far as formatting the hd,
then, the installation says it can’t find the package files.
I used the example in the Using FreeDOS Ebook, but, I did have to create the
“freedos.img” file, which was not covered.
Did you
Hello all,
But i can't figure out how to add my .exe files to this FD12LITE.img file. >> Any
ideas ?> On a Mac, you can just mount that img file by double
clicking it in finder.> On Linux, you can mount it through the loop back
device.> On Windows, you may require additional software to mount
Hello Mateusz,
http://drmind.sourceforge.net
Well, all I can say for now is, it works and is really cool. :-)
Thank you!
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Hello Jerome,
Yes. Prevent access to internal hard drive.
No. Allow access to internal hard drive.
Neither. Instead, include in boot menu to select either. People have been
getting
used to non-HD boot media enabling repairs, which typically means changing
something on the HD. Disabling that
Hello Jerome,
Actually I am also curious to know what mechanism you will be using to
limit access to internal hard drives. (I suppose it should be possible
to use LASTDRIVE= in a config.sys file to make the hard drives invisible
from DOS's view. But the hard drives will most likely still show
Hello bob olbrich,
DOSBox has the imgmount command for this type of installation. Have I
missed
an equivalent utility?
One thing you can do in QEMU is to mount an initial floppy image as A:
or B:, then use the QEMU Monitor to "remove" the image and "insert"
another image in the same "drive",
Hello Rugxulo,
*
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/asm/nasm/0.98.39/8086host/
Though I wonder why I wasted so much time since it's inferior to the
8086 OpenWatcom build. I guess I still appreciate Turbo C++ for what
it is. I really need to take a look at why it's
Hello Ralf Quint,
Will try to take a closer look a bit later this evening.
One problem here is what I mentioned a lot of times in the past but
always got scoffed at is that these are highly technical apps but do not
have any proper technical documentation. And they are typical examples
of
Hello Rugxulo,
BTW, what is the proper way to build Tinyasm with IA16-GCC? Is there a
specific set of switches you use? Or have you not tested (much) with
it yet?
The bare minimum is to enable the "small" memory model (separate text
and data segments), like so:
ia16-elf-gcc -mcmodel=small
Hello Rugxulo,
ia16-elf-gcc -mcmodel=small -Os -mregparmcall -mnewlib-nano-stdio \
tinyasm.c ins.c -o tinyasm.exe
What is the resulting size of the .EXE with your build? (He said it
uses at least 128k RAM, right?) At least for development and
Using the above command line, the
Hello Random Liegh,
https://github.com/nanochess/tinyasm/
Brand spanking new, targets the 8088. It can be built with desmet-c, but
there's a precompiled binary included in the github repository.
Thank you for the news. I have found some issues with the assembler ---
I will be submitting
Hello Rugxulo,
I for one would like to know how you wrote the makefiles for nasm --- I
have not managed to get a 16-bit build working using Watcom.
Okay, I think I've done enough fiddling to be worth sharing. So here
it is (lacking any better place for us):
*
Hello Rugxulo,
Using the above command line, the resulting size of tinyasm.exe is 27,200 bytes.
With the DJGPP-hosted tools, I'm getting 45 kb. Is that correct? Or do
you have newer libs? Sure, after UPX, it's about 27 kb. Either way,
quite nice!
Ah yes, I have updated the gcc-ia16
Hello Karen Lewellen,
>> But meanwhile, forget Calibre under DOS. If you really want to use
>> it, run Linux.
> the question is, if a compile of Calibre is possible for dos...you know
> the focus of this list? smiles.
> The qt idea came from a member of the calibre forum at mobileread.
Hello Louis Santillan, hello Jack Browning,
seems to be fully functional, i.e., all the builtin commands appear
to work normally. When I go to run the BIOS updater by typing the
.exe's file name and hitting return, however, the only thing that
happens is that the word "Test."
Hello Ralf,
But still, nobody should get their knickers in a twist just yet, as it
is an older version of GW-BASIC from 1983, while the latest version
(3.23) is from 1988. And the license kind of disallows to re-use the
code from the files, similar to that of the DOS 1.x/2.0 source they
Hello ZB,
Actually I was hoping it could be "thinner layer"... but, as I wrote, only
know I'm trying to find out, how exactly "virtual x86 mode" works
Basically --- as Eric Auer sort of explained --- a "virtual 8086" is a
special kind of unprivileged protected-mode task, that runs under a
Hello Eric,
In addition, I have found a small number of floppy
disks in CP/M format, which are very likely readable
using some of the drives here, but I do not know HOW
to read them, software wise. I cannot even use dd to
make a diskimage, probably different sector sizes?
In case it helps: I
Hello ZB, hello Eric,
I found some basic information here: https://www.daqarta.com/y2kure.htm
(I mean "BACKGROUND" paragraph), but when possible I'd like simply to modify
BIOS and resolve the problem "once for always"
It basically says there are many ways in which hardware or
software could
Hello Eric,
My impression of git compared to svn is that the
use of random hex numbers instead of sequential
version numbers makes it very hard for me to get
an overview what happened when in projects seen
on the website, am I missing something?
[...]
> Having no SVN, CVS, GIT, HG for DOS
Hello Jim Hall,
Looks like this person is trying to get the source to build. You can follow
or contribute here:
https://github.com/dspinellis/GW-BASIC
On Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:29 PM Random Liegh via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
I tried it with some old, old
Hello Rugxulo, hello Dennis,
>> What exactly does "semi-working" mean? It seems like graphics commands
>> aren't supported? That's no biggie (IMHO) as long as it can do simple
>> file I/O.
Well, direct commands seem to be working quite OK. But yes, large
chunks of functionality --- graphics,
Hello Anand,
I wrote a small program in C to create a file with a long file name as
follows.
void main(void)
{
FILE *fptr = fopen("e:\\aerosystems.txt", "w");
fprintf(fptr, "Genesys\n");
fclose(fptr);
} // END main()
And then I compiled using the Watcom compiler:
It
Hello Dennis,
As for the AWK portion, I have tested my script for munging the
GW-BASIC source files with both GNU awk (gawk) and mawk.
Were any changes required to your original script to get it to work as
expected in gawk *and* mawk?
To my surprise, no, not at all. :-)
Thank you!
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Hello Jerome,
Some random additional thoughts,
I guess some times there was a little confusion with the 1.2 release over a
FULL install.
Maybe a good way would be to call a "FULL minus EXTRA" install by a less
confusing name? E.g. perhaps call it a "RICH" install or something
along those
Hello Bob, hello Eric,
>> This is supposed to have a V30 processor and Rom-Dos. Haven't had time
>> to check it out thoroughly yet.
>> I should have asked if it can be installed by a clutz.
>> Specs on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_Algebra_FX_Series
Hi! Interesting question.
Hello Hollowone PL, hello Eric Auer,
DOS/16M error: [26] 8042 timeout
DOS/16M error: [26] 8042 timeout
...
The 8042 is the keyboard controller. You are using the rEFInd boot
manager on iMac, without Bootcamp. I assume that means you had to
load some CSM, either provided by Apple or by rEFInd,
Hello Ralf Quint,
I am not sure if you guys all missed a previous post where I said I
found a reference that there are issues with some SMM BIOS
implementations, providing legacy USB support (for keyboard and mice)
and software that is trying to switch in "long mode" (which also might
be used
Hello Hollowone PL,
With this I have few starter question as a user:
- DOS16/m is a 16bit protected mode extender. Does it mean that FreeDOS
runs in 16bit protected mode from the command line or perhaps some driver
is interfering or rather the iMac I use has hardware that may cause some
obvious
Hello Adam,
* I would like to be able to produce a native DOS real-mode .exe file
that will run in an emulator like DOSBox and on a real 8086 PC
running DOS (i.e. without protected mode or extended memory). It
looks like there is an "ia16" port of GCC but this seems to produce
Hello Eric,
Which command.com version and which version of
hexdump are you using? As far as I remember,
neither MS DOS nor FreeDOS command.com use the
CMDLINE mechanism, maybe you mean the shell
(terminal) window of Microsoft Windows?
Git logs suggest that FreeDOS's FreeCOM has included
Hello Louis,
I don't get what the issue with PCNTPK.COM packet driver is?
Per the amdpd.zip file at http://crynwr.com/drivers/00index.html , it is
copyright Russell Nelson 1990 w/a GPLv1 license in 1990 and copyright AMD
1993 w/a pseudo Public Domain-ish license (PCNTPK.ASM). While not
Hello Eric Auer,
Hi! I read on
https://dosbox-x.com/release-0.83.15.html
that DOSBOX-X now supports DBCS for CJK (Chinese, Japanese
and Korean) languages. Do you happen to know how they do
that? Would it be feasible to port their changes into the
I looked a bit at the Git commits for dosbox-x
Hello Ralf,
Still an excellent tool I consider TROFF, now GROFF, for Unix/Linux
-which also exists for Windows, appeared in 1990 (Version 0.3.1) by
James Clark) coming from “a text-formatting program called RUNOFF,
which was written by Jerome H. Saltzer for MIT's CTSS operating system
in the
Hello Johnpaul Humphrey,
All the things he finds objectionable I would have called FEATURES. He
would do better on Ubuntu.
Me, I am not so sure. That was from Laaca --- a developer of DOS
programs himself. He also mentions that he had been "using DOS for 27
years". So if he says that
Hello Eric,
Finally, the reporter (the whole post has a quite harsh tone)
complains that the default install will install FAR too few
useful apps and that the package management groups are badly
sorted (e.g. no subcategories for utilities) and that there
should be no base64 tool in "base"...
Hello Felix,
What this reads is if it has UEFI, it has no basic input/output system.
That makes no sense. Without *a* basic input/output system, by whatever
Well, in practice, when we talk about "BIOS" compatibility, we are
really referring to compatibility with "the" BIOS --- as in, the
Hello Eric,
For comparison, at the moment, DOG (shell, 1 file per command),
Arachne (browser), Emacs, FreeBASIC, GhostScript, OpenXP, Lynx
browser, Pacific C, Pegasus Mail, SETEDIT and various games are
better off in their own directories, while several 100 single
executable files can nicely
Hello Rugxulo,
Honestly, he's been known as "very eccentric" for many years. I don't
think anybody is surprised. He has opinions and voices them (whether
unpopular or not). You know what they say about opinions, right?
Everyone has one.
Well, I happen to lurk around on the GCC mailing list.
Hello Rugxulo,
but that doesn't mean he should be heavily punished. Just because someone
doesn't agree with him, even if he speaks egregious words, doesn't mean he
should be destroyed. I reject that kind of irrational anger (especially
You cannot have it both ways. Either opinions are
Hello Bruce, hello Dennis,
No recursion and no floating point will be blockers users need to keep
in mind, but being able to build for 8bit micros like the 8080, Z-80,
and 6502 is a definite plus..
The Cowgol page (http://cowlark.com/cowgol/index.html) says that the
lack of recursion is
Hello Tomas,
The "dir" command only shows 8+3, and when I manually rename using
"move", the name gets truncated (rather than getting the tilde plus
number).
Perhaps try doing the renaming using the Bash shell that should come
with DJGPP? DJGPP Bash should support long file names. I think
Hello Michal, hello Louis,
I've run some software on Pentium 3 Tualatin S on FreeDOS and it's
getting an invalid opcode error. The error precisely says "Invalid
opcode at ..." where ... is a bunch of 16 bit variables. Saying "at" is
really misleading and doesn't make any sense, since such a
Hello Adam,
I've never really understood why people complain about the GPL being
viral - perhaps you can enlighten me with another viewpoint. I only
ever see it from the point of view where someone is very happy to make
use of code another has provided for free, but they don't want to share
Hello Eric, hello Thomas,
PS: Thanks for mentioning https://kolibrios.org/de/download which
supports USB (mouse, keyboard, trackpad, storage) in only 1.5 MB.
Does it also support your printer and other USB devices? It does
This is indeed interesting --- an OS that is fast and light, and knows
Hello Liam,
This is indeed interesting --- an OS that is fast and light, and knows
at least a few things about modern (21st-century) hardware and software
standards.
There are a _lot_ of choices out there that are not as bloated as
modern Linux tends to be, and not super-simple and limited
Hello Tom,
JMP 5 terminates a program
Just a minor nitpick: that will be `jmp 0' (with cs = PSP). `call 5'
performs a syscall with the syscall number in the cl register.
(Also, I recall --- if I remember correctly --- the actual CP/M-86
actually exposes a different `int 0xe0'
Hello Liam,
that's the way other programs talk to the OS; copying it was and is
considered fair game.
Is it? By whom?
The whole discussion around the recent Google v. Oracle court case?
If anything, it should show clearly that there is _nothing_ _nefarious_
whatsoever in writing a system
Hello Ralf,
On a slightly related note: https://www.pcjs.org/blog/2018/05/27/ . :-)
Well, that article has a whole lot of nothing about "CALL 5".
Read on carefully. :-) There is a VM of PC-DOS 2.0 which includes a
utility that was part of Microsoft Word ... and the utility uses `call 5'.
Hello Ralf,
The "CALL 5" equivalent was never properly implemented, I guess Peterson
ran into problems with the differences of the 8080 and 8086 CPUs.
[...]
And you will have a hard time to find any serious documentation on that
CALL 5 stuff for any version of DOS. And I would be surprised
Hello Michael,
The license MUST be viral. Folks, anyone who complains about it being
viral doesn't understand it at all. Google is a monopoly. Google
Sorry, but the arguments you make do not even begin to make any sense at
all.
You are basically just stringing a lot of baseless conspiracy
Hello Liam,
All right, I have to concede that point.
Thank you --- glad we could agree. :-)
I still maintain there is a bit of a difference between copying a
rival's API in order to launch a competing product, and copying a
rival's API in order to do something completely different with it.
Hello Liam, hello Tom,
And according to the mainstream account (?), CP/M-86 would not be
released until late 1981. QDOS was released earlier, in mid-1980
(https://archive.org/stream/byte-magazine-1980-08/1980_08_BYTE_05-08_The_Forth_Language#page/n173/mode/2up).
QDOS's system call interface
Hello Eric, hello Paul,
Hi! I read on
https://dosbox-x.com/release-0.83.15.html
that DOSBOX-X now supports DBCS for CJK (Chinese, Japanese
and Korean) languages. Do you happen to know how they do
that?
Well, more info about mentioned DOS/V is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS/V
I
Hello Travis,
linux box setup and transferred the domain to that. The nice thing
about using dos for your networking, (which someone else said way more
eloquently than I could, paraphrasing here), is that since dos doesn't
have a native tcp/ip stack, if the app dies, so does the tcp/ip
Good day saito yutaka,
I modified config.mak as follow.
Other settings are same as config.std[1].
---
## Memory model of FreeCOM
!if $(DEBUG)0 == 10
SHELL_MMODEL=l
DEBUG=-DDEBUG
!else
SHELL_MMODEL=l
DEBUG=-UDEBUG -DNDEBUG
!endif
SHELL_MMODEL_COMP=$(SHELL_MMODEL)
Unfortunately, in general,
Hello Ray,
What about the KERNEL location in the tree? Prior to 1.2 it was in the
root, now it is in FDOS\BIN. If I run SYS C: from a 1.1 Floppy, then
copy 1.2 KRNEL386, as KERNEL, over the 1.1 KERNEL, should that leave me
with the 1.2 kernel where it belongs on the drive?
Huh? I would
Hello Travis,
Ok, odd question, (lots of emulation), but I've got ubuntu 20.04 running
under win10, using wsl. I can't seem to get dosemu installed under that
version of ubuntu (though it works fine under a real ubuntu system I
have). When I try to install dosemu under the ubuntu 20.04
Hello Louis, hello Mercury 13,
>> He claims "The DMC++ compiler is far and away the best C++ compiler
on DOS."
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30127615
Interesting he doesn't mention that Digital Mars is his own company.
"Digital Mars C/C++ is Boost licensed."
and
"DMC still gets
Hello Daniel,
I am unfamiliar woththe C languages, but does it also allow one to mix
both assembly in with the C source code? Are there any other languages
In short, yes, most C compilers allow you to write "in-line" assembly
inside a C language source file.
However, note that this is not
Hello Liam Proven,
[re Pascal, Modula, etc.]
You [Rugxulo] also said: >> (So it was too many competing languages,
honestly.)> Also not really
fair.> I mean, arguably, yes, but there are also dozens of variants of
C.> There's original C, K C, Plan 9 C, ANSI C, C 99, C11, C17 and soon
C23.>
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