Re: [Freedos-user] Keyboard input absent

2016-07-05 Thread JR
Hi Ulrich
Apologies again, I see my previous response was to yourself and not the 
list.Thanks for all your suggestions.
To recap.
The OS is  XP.
The PC is a 10 year old HP notebook with a docking station.
I am using an external PS2 keyboard and mouse on a USB adaptor.
Running the P program kills keyboard input in the VDM. It also kills 
input from the notebook keyboard.
The P program runs under the Windows command prompt (cmd.exe)
P were made aware of the problem but will not be addressing it.

Some additional information.
My previous work around to this problem was to use a second PC on a 
network to run the P program.
This was a Windows 2K PC. The new version of P software does not run 
under W2K.
That's why it's now installed on my XP PC.
I have also tried running dosx.exe and ntvdm.exe found in 
\Windows\System32 directory.
Keyboard input is present in cmd.exe  and Windows apps after running the 
P program.

What I've learned so far.
Running the old P program on the W2K PC does not break the keyboard 
input in the VDM.
The old version also killed keyboard input on an XP PC.
I can't swap the PS2 keyboard and mouse as I'm using a USB adaptor. (2x 
PS2 to USB)
If I swap the PS2 plugs on the adaptor neither work. (Under Windows)
Deleting the keyboard drivers shown in the Device Manager does not 
change anything.
I don't think the TSR manager is relevant as the P program is run 
under cmd.exe

Any further thoughts are very welcome.

John




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Re: [Freedos-user] Keyboard input absent

2016-07-04 Thread Ulrich Hansen
I doubt it, but perhaps you check the environment settings with the command:

SET

Maybe there’s a wrong keyboard setting the P program left behind and you can 
delete it with:

SET NAMEOFVARABLE=

(I know, I know, this is too easy, but sometimes…) :-)

Ah and because you can’t get the keyboard to work AFTER you started the P 
program, try to chain that program with SET. I didn’t find a way to do it with 
command.com („&“ doesn’t work) so start 4dos first:

4dos

and then:

yourproblematicprogram.exe ^ SET

Just an idea...






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Re: [Freedos-user] Keyboard input absent

2016-07-04 Thread Ulrich Hansen
>> 
>> leads to
>> 
>> http://10.0.0.8/getting_started/dev_and_debug/flash_programming.cfm
>> 
>> So that does speak for itself.
> 
> So somebody accidentally made that an intranet link there :-p

It was just a funny thing to see, but not relevant to your question. Normally 
these things are discovered pretty quickly. So either there is no customer 
interest in that page or they don’t read their weblogs. Or they just don’t 
care. :-)

Now about the problem:

Perhaps it is possible to try this program: TSRCOM (MARK and RELEASE). You get 
it here:

ftp://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/msdos/coast/tsrutil/

Look for a file TSRCOM35.ZIP. The function is explained in the TSR.DOC file. It 
is free for distribution and you are allowed to use it without paying anything 
- but it is not free software.

It works like this: You start MARK.COM. After that you start your P program. 
After you finished working with it, you run RELEASE.EXE.

Maybe this way it is possible to remove the P program completely from memory.

Good luck 
Ulrich





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Re: [Freedos-user] Keyboard input absent

2016-07-04 Thread Eric Auer

In case you were wondering...

>> Perhaps the vectors are being 
>> hi-jacked or the keyboard driver being replaced?
> 
> I am not an expert, but it seems you are right.

...

> I just tried to research the problem and the first link on
> 
> http://www.pemicro.com/software/index.cfm
> 
> leads to
> 
> http://10.0.0.8/getting_started/dev_and_debug/flash_programming.cfm
> 
> So that does speak for itself.

So somebody accidentally made that an intranet link there :-p

http://www.pemicro.com/getting_started/dev_and_debug/flash_programming.cfm

would be the intended website within the pemicro.com scope.

Cheers, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Keyboard input absent

2016-07-04 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Hi John,

> After running a Windows command line application from 
> "P Microcomputer Systems" to program Freescale MCU's there is no 
> keyboard input in the VDM. FreeDOS launches normally but there is no 
> keyboard input. If in Full Screen mode, Ctrl Esc works.

So the keyboard driver works in the Virtual DOS Machine (VDM) but it is still 
occupied by the P program.

> Perhaps the vectors are being 
> hi-jacked or the keyboard driver being replaced?

I am not an expert, but it seems you are right.

> P will not address 
> the problem. 

I just tried to research the problem and the first link on

http://www.pemicro.com/software/index.cfm

leads to

http://10.0.0.8/getting_started/dev_and_debug/flash_programming.cfm

So that does speak for itself.

Googling the problem brought two things:

This site says you could delete the keyboard controller from the device manager:

http://discussions.virtualdr.com/showthread.php?1426-Keyboard-suddenly-won-t-work-in-MS-DOS-mode

And this page suggests to use a ps/2 keyboard:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/310923

Both answers do not sound exactly right for the problem...

Maybe someone else here has an idea how to completely unload the previous 
program.

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[Freedos-user] Keyboard input absent

2016-07-04 Thread JR
Hi there
My apologies if this mail has already been posted. I am new to the list. 
I posted it yesterday but I do not see it. So  here it is again.
My OS is XP SP3. After running a Windows command line application from 
"P Microcomputer Systems" to program Freescale MCU's there is no 
keyboard input in the VDM. FreeDOS launches normally but there is no 
keyboard input. If in Full Screen mode, Ctrl Esc works. Returns to the 
desktop and opens the Start menu. Perhaps a clue is that Alt Esc returns 
to Desktop (Start menu is not opened). Under normal operation when 
keyboard input is present in the VDM, the Alt Esc key sequence does not 
work. FreeDOS must be closed by right clicking the app icon on the 
bottom bar of the desktop to force it to be closed.
The only way to fix the problem is to reboot. Does any one know if I can 
patch memory or run a program fix this? Perhaps the vectors are being 
hi-jacked or the keyboard driver being replaced? P will not address 
the problem. Any help or ideas appreciated.
John

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