Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Amedee Van Gasse
On Sun, January 18, 2009 09:02, Jim Lemon wrote: The extensions I'm interested in are mainly those that allow me to access newer filesystems so that the people who use my tests won't whinge as much about having to transfer files from DOS to NTFS or the like. Perhaps something like FUSE

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Amedee Van Gasse
On Sun, January 18, 2009 19:28, Eric Auer wrote: As far as web browsing and dos, isn't dos susceptible to almost every single virus on the planet? Another thing, some people want to run dos thinking that it can't browse the Internet. DOS is too old to support modern viruses, so unless you

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Jonathan W.
I use FreeDOS because I have an old laptop which is somehow too slow to run DSL. I installed FreeDOS on it and I'm currently using it for keeping a journal on and writing an interactive fiction game in TADS. Since I'm keeping a journal on it, it needed to be lockable... which DOS traditionally

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Just make regular backups, and keep a clean image. Make one before you go in the interwebz. Got a virus? Just wipe the disk and put the image back. As you do not always notice the virus at once, you better also keep older images. Or maybe you keep a few generations of backups of your

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! The extensions I'm interested in are mainly those that allow me to access newer filesystems so that the people who use my tests won't whinge as much about having to transfer files from DOS to NTFS or the like. Perhaps something like FUSE (Filesystems in Userspace) could be ported

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Christian Masloch
This is already what DOS does, sort of. DOS has no separation of access rights, so there is no userspace, but it has a layered system of drivers. The kernel supports BIOS int13 drives as well as FAT filesystems. After booting, you can load drivers to give the kernel access to the sectors of

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Not all DOS USB disk drivers are one part... A driver pair that works well is for example USBASPI ASPIDISK where the former gives block level access while the latter connects DOS block devices to those partitions on the USB disk which are FAT formatted. You can have (write) some ASPINTFS

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Christian Masloch
You could write such a driver but you have to remember that DOS block device already implies FAT anyway. This implication is a part of the problem I'm talking about. DOS (rather, the DOS device loader) shouldn't assume that just FAT exists (it also shouldn't discard non-FAT partitions from

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! You could write such a driver but you have to remember that DOS block device already implies FAT anyway. This implication is a part of the problem I'm talking about. DOS (rather, the DOS device loader) shouldn't assume that just FAT exists (it also shouldn't discard non-FAT

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Christian Masloch
Hi, Character devices can be found by their name and can be controlled via IOCTL... In addition, because you pass the device name as command line option to CDEX, this way is slightly more end user friendly than int2f handlers, in particular if you have more than 1 CDROM driver loaded.

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-19 Thread Tom Ehlert
I'm talking about non-FAT DOS block devices. This especially includes (beside Int13 devices) any SCSI/USB/whatever device that is _not_ accessible through Int13 (and therefore invisible to usual Int13-only local filesystem redirectors). no idea what you are talking about. as a matter of

[Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-18 Thread Jim Lemon
Hi all, I read Michael Robinson's email with great interest. About my only interest in DOS is that it allows me to take over the machinery without the operating system butting in. It is a fantastic environment for test programming and other uses that require real time I/O. I've been away from

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Michael, I like dos when I have an old computer and some old games that work under dos. Running Windows on a 486 is a pain in general. True true. You kept a 486 because games are too fast otherwise? I think a Pentium 3 or K6-2 is a good compromise: Fast enough for newer OSes and

Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-18 Thread Ray Davison
Is no one else running DOS on late model machines to do actual work. My primary machines now are Pentium D. With a mix of PATA and SATA. I have rather recent suites from Corel and M$. But my word processor of choice is still WP 6.2a DOS. My accounts payable program was written in 1995.

[Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...

2009-01-17 Thread Michael Robinson
I like dos when I have an old computer and some old games that work under dos. Running Windows on a 486 is a pain in general. Even a low end Pentium these days is slow. As far as web browsing and dos, isn't dos susceptible to almost every single virus on the planet? Another thing, some