Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
> There is no physical SCSI bus in that machine. > The disk wodim found must be the virtual device > created by aspi.sys. Yes; cdrecord and wodim cannot use ATAPI devices directly in DOS; that's why they > Regards, > JAS > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Blair Campbell said: >Did you load aspi.sys after xcdrom? Yes, and it did create a new DOS character device: SCSIMGR$ >Try running wodim -scanbus and see if it finds your >drive. >You might need to specify dev=3Dx,x,x >to tell it which drive to use. Running wodim -scanbus results (after about 5 minutes) in the following message: scsibus 0: 0.0.0 0) .. NON CCS DISK 0.1.0 1) * 0.2.0 2) * 0.3.0 3) * 0.4.0 4) * 0.5.0 5) * 0.6.0 6) * 0.7.0 7) * There is no physical SCSI bus in that machine. The disk wodim found must be the virtual device created by aspi.sys. Regards, JAS -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Hi Bernd, Blair, > points to the 7zip: http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/xgcdrm24.7z >> does ASPI.SYS by Oak require a ATAPI driver to be loaded first? > Seems like by using the real CWSDPMI things now do work. However not > able to do any further testing till I get my hands on a rewriteable > disc. Hopefully I'll find some time this week to integrate an updating > mechanism into the installation disc. Rewriteable disks are always a very nice way to test and develop distros of various operating systems and for carrying around data if your USB stick is full :-). Did you report the problem with the other-than-real-CWSDPMI DOS extender / DPMI host to the ones who maintain that other DOS extender or DPMI host? Thanks :-). Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
>> I first loaded xgcdrom as usual, then loaded >> aspi.sys after >> (http://www.wolfgang-brinkmann.de/bcdw/aspi.sys), >> and used wodim to record (on my homepage at >> http://blairdude.googlepages.com/cdrkit) > > Thank you for the help, but I still would > like to know what Oleg O. Chukaev uses, since he > does not use an ATAPI driver. > BTW, with a setup very similar to yours (xcdrom > instead of xgcdrom) in a machine running a MSDOS > window under Windows 98 I was unable to write a > CD: wodin rejected -clone, -sao, -dao and ,when > I let it choose, it used -tao and failed to > find the CD drive. The drive, of course, exists > and I am able to use it to read CDs with xcdrom > and shsucdx. I also had an ISO9660 image on HD > to test writing to the CD-R. Did you load aspi.sys after xcdrom? Try running wodim -scanbus and see if it finds your drive. You might need to specify dev=x,x,x to tell it which drive to use. > > Best regards > JAS > > > -- > Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are > powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and > easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development > software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. > Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Blair Campbell said: > I first loaded xgcdrom as usual, then loaded > aspi.sys after > (http://www.wolfgang-brinkmann.de/bcdw/aspi.sys), > and used wodim to record (on my homepage at > http://blairdude.googlepages.com/cdrkit) Thank you for the help, but I still would like to know what Oleg O. Chukaev uses, since he does not use an ATAPI driver. BTW, with a setup very similar to yours (xcdrom instead of xgcdrom) in a machine running a MSDOS window under Windows 98 I was unable to write a CD: wodin rejected -clone, -sao, -dao and ,when I let it choose, it used -tao and failed to find the CD drive. The drive, of course, exists and I am able to use it to read CDs with xcdrom and shsucdx. I also had an ISO9660 image on HD to test writing to the CD-R. Best regards JAS -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
> Would you please inform whether you used XGCDROM as > driver, the recording program you used, any command line > options and where that recording program can be found ? I first loaded xgcdrom as usual, then loaded aspi.sys after (http://www.wolfgang-brinkmann.de/bcdw/aspi.sys), and used wodim to record (on my homepage at http://blairdude.googlepages.com/cdrkit) -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
A question to Oleg O. Chukaev: You said >Blair Campbell wrote: does ASPI.SYS by Oak require a ATAPI driver to be loaded first? >>> No. Programs like cdrecord and readcd can work >>> without an ATAPI driver. >> No they can't if you're using an ATAPI drive. >They CAN. ;-) Yesterday I successfully read and > wrote CDs w/o an ATAPI driver. Would you please inform whether you used XGCDROM as driver, the recording program you used, any command line options and where that recording program can be found ? Thanks for your attention JAS -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Hello Blair, Blair Campbell wrote: >>> does ASPI.SYS by Oak require a ATAPI driver to be loaded first? >> No. Programs like cdrecord and readcd can work without an ATAPI driver. > > No they can't if you're using an ATAPI drive. They CAN. ;-) Yesterday I successfully read and wrote CDs w/o an ATAPI driver. -- Oleg O. Chukaev -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
>> does ASPI.SYS by Oak require a ATAPI driver to be loaded first? > No. Programs like cdrecord and readcd can work without an ATAPI driver. No they can't if you're using an ATAPI drive. ASPI.SYS won't load if an ATAPI driver isn't loaded already. ASPI.SYS provides an ASPI-over-ATAPI interface; it does not comunicate with SCSI devices. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Hello Bernd, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > does ASPI.SYS by Oak require a ATAPI driver to be loaded first? No. Programs like cdrecord and readcd can work without an ATAPI driver. -- Oleg O. Chukaev -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
> does ASPI.SYS by Oak require a ATAPI driver to be loaded first? Yes. Load xgcdrom or something first, then load aspi.sys. Using devload worked fine for me. > I hope to get the real system workable but no idea why it hangs. Wish I > knew if the GCDROM/ASPI.SYS combination actually worked, as that would > allow recording on a lot of real systems Well I tested xgcdrom/aspi on a real machine here, and it worked (DVD+-RW drive), so at least on my system it works for a real system. I have not tested it in a virtual environment. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Bernd Blaauw schreef: > Blair Campbell schreef: > points to the 7zip: http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/xgcdrm24.7z > does ASPI.SYS by Oak require a ATAPI driver to be loaded first? > > Seems like by using the real CWSDPMI things now do work. However not able to do any further testing till I get my hands on a rewriteable disc. Hopefully I'll find some time this week to integrate an updating mechanism into the installation disc. Bernd -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Blair Campbell schreef: >>> points to the 7zip: http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/xgcdrm24.7z >>> does ASPI.SYS by Oak require a ATAPI driver to be loaded first? > At the end of recording wodim spit out an error message about not > closing the session or something, so I pressed Ctrl-C twice and it > ended the wodim execution. I then manually ejected the DVD and > re-insterted it. When I did dir d:\, all of the files in the ISO were > present, and I was able to successfully read the files on the DVD. > WODIM works for me as well, but only in VMWARE so far, and only when using SCSI CDROM support and loading the BTDOSM.SYS ASPI driver for the Buslogic controller. Not tried the emulated Intel controller. Problem with using IDE for CDROM is I get invalid/unsupported DMA commands according to an error screen from VMware Workstation 6.5x Problem with real machine is WODIM seems to hang whenever I try using it, might be due to the HXRT extender instead of CWSDPMI. It's a Core2Duo Nvidia-chipset based machine with DVD Rewriter still on IDE (not SATA). I've not tried GENISOImage yet, simply booted a Fdos ISO in Vmware and used the OMI program by Jason Hood. With a bit of luck I'll get my hands on some rewriteable DVDs soon, which should allow me to boot FreeDOS from CD/DVD, and write an updated version to the same disc (load ramdisk, copy contents to ramdisk, modify contents, generate new ISO, erase DVD+RW, write ISO to DVD+RW) > So it works, but there are bugs (most likely in cdrkit). Soon I will > also test the cdrecord I compiled (I already tested mkisofs, which > does not require -allow-limited-size as genisoimage does). Perhaps > cdrecord will not require Ctrl-C to end the execution; who knows. > I only had to wait. > Note that I do not know whether the drive I tested on is SATA or not. > Perhaps also wodim has options that will cause it to execute > correctly. I'll let someone else more familiar with these utilities > do the testing :-). > > Does anybody have an opinion as to which is better? (cdrkit vs. cdrtools) > Do I have any willing testers for other drives? (you should probably > use CD-RWs or DVD-RWs) > I hope to get the real system workable but no idea why it hangs. Wish I knew if the GCDROM/ASPI.SYS combination actually worked, as that would allow recording on a lot of real systems Bernd -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
> I do hope you can make a working copy, I've never succeed burning any CD/DVD > under DOS. Why don't you give it a test? :-) -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
> Any chance all of your compiled stuff is available in public sometime? Ok; cdrkit is available at http://blairdude.googlepages.com/cdrkit (source and binary packages). > I'd love to test DVD recording as I've always wanted to be able to Yes please test and let me know the results. I also just fixed the bug in genisoimage so you will no longer need -allow-limited-size to create an iso. > I'm not sure about the status of XGCDROM.SYS, was it open source yet I believe it is a combination of xcdrom (GPL) and gcdrom (SATA-only, based on xcdrom) to have a driver which supports both PATA and SATA. So yes, it is open-source. > No idea which one would be better, never found a working DOS CDRTOOLS > for DVD (CDDL license was it?), never found any DOS port of CDRKIT > (GPL?) at all. I'm pretty sure that the cdrecord included with FD 1.0 had DVD support IIRC. Since cdrkit is based on cdrtools, the code needed to compile for DJGPP was still there, I just wrote some makefiles to compile it because I couldn't get cmake to work for me. And there were some very minor code changes. cdrkit is available under the GPL, and cdrtools is partly available under the CDDL and partly under the GPL (supposedly incompatible to each other - debate over the topic led to cdrkit forking from the last GPL version)... at least the way I understand it. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:32:09 +0100, you wrote: Hi, >I'm not sure about the status of XGCDROM.SYS, was it open source yet >like earlier of Jack's no longer available versions? If it is, it means >the closed-source ASPI.SYS could be replaced as well if someone's able >to write an ASPI driver for ATAPI/SCSI (possibly USB/Firewire/SATA as >well but oh well). Feel free to use the existing code flowing around, as Jack didn't care (and no way to take care, so he left it "as is"). >> Does anybody have an opinion as to which is better? (cdrkit vs. cdrtools) >> Do I have any willing testers for other drives? (you should probably >> use CD-RWs or DVD-RWs) I do hope you can make a working copy, I've never succeed burning any CD/DVD under DOS. Rgds, Johnson. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Blair Campbell schreef: > No you're not :-). > First, I compiled the latest version of cdrtools (the current one is > way outdated), which is cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD 2.01.01a58. > Then, I discovered that some linux distributions forked cdrtools > because of licencing issues, so I decided to try their fork > (www.cdrkit.org) and successfully compiled that. > Hi Blair, Any chance all of your compiled stuff is available in public sometime? I'd love to test DVD recording as I've always wanted to be able to remaster the FreeDOS disc from within a FreeDOS CDROM itself, and managed to do so except for the cd recording itself (using an old version of cdrecord). That would allow both remastering the bootfloppy used for memdisk as well as updating the cd with new packages :). > So to test I loaded xgcdrom.sys, then oakaspi.sys (ASPI over ATAPI > driver; http://www.wolfgang-brinkmann.de/bcdw/aspi.sys) > I'm not sure about the status of XGCDROM.SYS, was it open source yet like earlier of Jack's no longer available versions? If it is, it means the closed-source ASPI.SYS could be replaced as well if someone's able to write an ASPI driver for ATAPI/SCSI (possibly USB/Firewire/SATA as well but oh well). > Does anybody have an opinion as to which is better? (cdrkit vs. cdrtools) > Do I have any willing testers for other drives? (you should probably > use CD-RWs or DVD-RWs) > No idea which one would be better, never found a working DOS CDRTOOLS for DVD (CDDL license was it?), never found any DOS port of CDRKIT (GPL?) at all. Thanks for your continued efforts :) Bernd -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
> At the end of recording wodim spit out an error message about not > closing the session or something, so I pressed Ctrl-C twice and it > ended the wodim execution. I then manually ejected the DVD and So after further testing, cdrecord (original) also does this, but if I wait long enough, execution finishes on its own and the files appear to be written correctly. It would seem that at least for me, cdrkit works just as well as the original cdrtools except for the genisoimage bug mentioned earlier. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
Hey I just came up with this thought. Anybody with a USB CD/DVD-RW drive? I think it would be an interesting test to see if USBASPI.SYS works with cdrtools/cdrkit. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Blair Campbell wrote: >>> points to the 7zip: http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/xgcdrm24.7z >> >> Would this driver work for recording? on any drive? >> >> Maybe I am just daydreaming :) > > No you're not :-). > First, I compiled the latest version of cdrtools (the current one is > way outdated), which is cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD 2.01.01a58. > Then, I discovered that some linux distributions forked cdrtools > because of licencing issues, so I decided to try their fork > (www.cdrkit.org) and successfully compiled that. > Note that genisoimage (mkisofs-equivalent in cdrkit) for some reason > requires -allow-limited-size to be able to create any isos (this is a > bug). > So to test I loaded xgcdrom.sys, then oakaspi.sys (ASPI over ATAPI > driver; http://www.wolfgang-brinkmann.de/bcdw/aspi.sys) > Then I created a test ISO with genisoimage -J -allow-limited-size -o > test.iso testdir... > Then I executed wodim test.iso. > > At the end of recording wodim spit out an error message about not > closing the session or something, so I pressed Ctrl-C twice and it > ended the wodim execution. I then manually ejected the DVD and > re-insterted it. When I did dir d:\, all of the files in the ISO were > present, and I was able to successfully read the files on the DVD. > > So it works, but there are bugs (most likely in cdrkit). Soon I will > also test the cdrecord I compiled (I already tested mkisofs, which > does not require -allow-limited-size as genisoimage does). Perhaps > cdrecord will not require Ctrl-C to end the execution; who knows. > Note that I do not know whether the drive I tested on is SATA or not. > Perhaps also wodim has options that will cause it to execute > correctly. I'll let someone else more familiar with these utilities > do the testing :-). > > Does anybody have an opinion as to which is better? (cdrkit vs. cdrtools) > Do I have any willing testers for other drives? (you should probably > use CD-RWs or DVD-RWs) > -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] XGCDROM and CD/DVD Recording
>> points to the 7zip: http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/xgcdrm24.7z > > Would this driver work for recording? on any drive? > > Maybe I am just daydreaming :) No you're not :-). First, I compiled the latest version of cdrtools (the current one is way outdated), which is cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD 2.01.01a58. Then, I discovered that some linux distributions forked cdrtools because of licencing issues, so I decided to try their fork (www.cdrkit.org) and successfully compiled that. Note that genisoimage (mkisofs-equivalent in cdrkit) for some reason requires -allow-limited-size to be able to create any isos (this is a bug). So to test I loaded xgcdrom.sys, then oakaspi.sys (ASPI over ATAPI driver; http://www.wolfgang-brinkmann.de/bcdw/aspi.sys) Then I created a test ISO with genisoimage -J -allow-limited-size -o test.iso testdir... Then I executed wodim test.iso. At the end of recording wodim spit out an error message about not closing the session or something, so I pressed Ctrl-C twice and it ended the wodim execution. I then manually ejected the DVD and re-insterted it. When I did dir d:\, all of the files in the ISO were present, and I was able to successfully read the files on the DVD. So it works, but there are bugs (most likely in cdrkit). Soon I will also test the cdrecord I compiled (I already tested mkisofs, which does not require -allow-limited-size as genisoimage does). Perhaps cdrecord will not require Ctrl-C to end the execution; who knows. Note that I do not know whether the drive I tested on is SATA or not. Perhaps also wodim has options that will cause it to execute correctly. I'll let someone else more familiar with these utilities do the testing :-). Does anybody have an opinion as to which is better? (cdrkit vs. cdrtools) Do I have any willing testers for other drives? (you should probably use CD-RWs or DVD-RWs) -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user