Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-20 Thread Alain Mouette
I have been installing FreeDOS a lot, the only thing that works ALLWAYS 
including USB CDs, is what I describel in a message 15june2011...

Then I can have a huge A: (I made it with bytes) with all that I need.

There is no way to make something that recognizes the CD everywhere.

Alain

Em 20-07-2011 14:46, Bernd Blaauw escreveu:
> Op 20-7-2011 4:17, Virii schreef:
>>> What exactly goes wrong when you do what?
>>> At which step? Which error messages do you
>>> get, or do things hang? Crash? What sorts
>>> of everything did you try, what happened?
>>
>> It hangs at the language selection screen. The very bottom selection of the
>> main menu looks for a non-existent FDBOOTCD.ISO. The readme states that it
>> should load the ISO into a ramdisk. Etc...
>
> Language selection: think I fixed that last night.
> Bottom selection: decided to keep things easy this time, without ISO
> inside CD/ISO. Easily enough added again, the UPDATE batchfile which is
> on the A: part (\ISOLINUX\FDBOOT.IMG) creates the inner ISO (which is
> uploaded as TEST2) followed by the outer ISO (which I uploaded as TEST1
> earlier) on ramdisk (64MB required at least). After modifications
> followed by creation of both ISOs, you can decided for yourself which
> ISO to copy to harddisk.
>
>>
>> But, nevermind. [Smacks self in forehead...]
>
> hehe. They're test releases for a reason, I'm not able to fix and
> improve everything right away and in perfectly usable shape.
>
>> I simply extracted the contents of the ISO to the C:\ partition, and
>> successfully ran the setup from there.
>>
>> It complained about a few missing packages like doslfn, wattcp, wget, ...,
>> but it installed. Can I just copy over the 'doslfn' from an older version's
>> disc, or is that feature compiled into kernel now?
>
> Copy all you want, directory structure was modified a bit without
> telling the installer. As a consequence, the package is present but not
> installed.
>
>> They works when I DEVLOAD them post boot-up, but the USB flash drive steals
>> the DVD-RW drive's letter (E:\ in my case). USBUHCI, and USBDRIVE don't work
>> at all for me. It not only wont load my USB drives, it doesn't even find
>> them. Strangely enough if I load them before USBASPI/NJ32DISK, my flash
>> drive is assigned M:\ instead.
>
> Strange indeed. CD-ROM driveletter can be altered if you want:
> option 1: SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001,X
> option 2: SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001 /L:X
>
> Your drivers taking over early driveletters is something I can't help,
> no experience with the USB drivers you mention.
> A commercial/trialware USB stack is at http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/
> , might work, or not. Worked for me yet lacks functionality and disables
> USB legacy stuff so I ended up with a non-functioning keyboard till reboot.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-20 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 20-7-2011 4:17, Virii schreef:
>> What exactly goes wrong when you do what?
>> At which step? Which error messages do you
>> get, or do things hang? Crash? What sorts
>> of everything did you try, what happened?
>
> It hangs at the language selection screen. The very bottom selection of the
> main menu looks for a non-existent FDBOOTCD.ISO. The readme states that it
> should load the ISO into a ramdisk. Etc...

Language selection: think I fixed that last night.
Bottom selection: decided to keep things easy this time, without ISO 
inside CD/ISO. Easily enough added again, the UPDATE batchfile which is 
on the A: part (\ISOLINUX\FDBOOT.IMG) creates the inner ISO (which is 
uploaded as TEST2) followed by the outer ISO (which I uploaded as TEST1 
earlier) on ramdisk (64MB required at least). After modifications 
followed by creation of both ISOs, you can decided for yourself which 
ISO to copy to harddisk.

>
> But, nevermind. [Smacks self in forehead...]

hehe. They're test releases for a reason, I'm not able to fix and 
improve everything right away and in perfectly usable shape.

> I simply extracted the contents of the ISO to the C:\ partition, and
> successfully ran the setup from there.
>
> It complained about a few missing packages like doslfn, wattcp, wget, ...,
> but it installed. Can I just copy over the 'doslfn' from an older version's
> disc, or is that feature compiled into kernel now?

Copy all you want, directory structure was modified a bit without 
telling the installer. As a consequence, the package is present but not 
installed.

> They works when I DEVLOAD them post boot-up, but the USB flash drive steals
> the DVD-RW drive's letter (E:\ in my case). USBUHCI, and USBDRIVE don't work
> at all for me. It not only wont load my USB drives, it doesn't even find
> them. Strangely enough if I load them before USBASPI/NJ32DISK, my flash
> drive is assigned M:\ instead.

Strange indeed. CD-ROM driveletter can be altered if you want:
option 1: SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001,X
option 2: SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001 /L:X

Your drivers taking over early driveletters is something I can't help, 
no experience with the USB drivers you mention.
A commercial/trialware USB stack is at http://www.georgpotthast.de/usb/ 
, might work, or not. Worked for me yet lacks functionality and disables 
USB legacy stuff so I ended up with a non-functioning keyboard till reboot.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-20 Thread Bret Johnson
> They works when I DEVLOAD them post boot-up, but the USB flash drive
> steals the DVD-RW drive's letter (E:\ in my case). USBUHCI, and
> USBDRIVE don't work at all for me. It not only wont load my USB
> drives, it doesn't even find them. Strangely enough if I load them
> before USBASPI/NJ32DISK, my flash drive is assigned M:\ instead.

Send me an e-mail (bretjohn at juno.com) and we can try to get your USB disks 
to work.  I don't think this Forum isn't the correct place to do it, though.  
It may be pretty simple to fix.  I'm guessing that you are simply running 
"USBUHCIL" with no options, which will only install the driver for the "first" 
USB host controller, and you may not be plugging your disks into the first one. 
 The M:\ thing also makes sense if you are installing USBDRIVE with no options, 
since USBDRIVE "reserves" drive letters that will be used when you do plug in 
some disks.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-19 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Virii  wrote:
>
> It complained about a few missing packages like doslfn, wattcp, wget, ...,
> but it installed. Can I just copy over the 'doslfn' from an older version's
> disc, or is that feature compiled into kernel now?

No LFNs in kernel (and still patented until 2017, I think, ugh). But
grab DOSLFN 0.40e here:

http://adoxa.110mb.com/doslfn/index.html

I would probably prefer something like StarLFN (TSR), which just (by
default) makes LONGNAME.DAT files with 8.3 -> LFN translation at
runtime. At least then you avoid patents and any "danger"
(cross-links) to your real partition data. But I suspect that idea
won't float with the kernel devs.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-19 Thread Virii



> What exactly goes wrong when you do what?
> At which step? Which error messages do you
> get, or do things hang? Crash? What sorts
> of everything did you try, what happened?

It hangs at the language selection screen. The very bottom selection of the
main menu looks for a non-existent FDBOOTCD.ISO. The readme states that it
should load the ISO into a ramdisk. Etc...

But, nevermind. [Smacks self in forehead...]

I simply extracted the contents of the ISO to the C:\ partition, and
successfully ran the setup from there.

It complained about a few missing packages like doslfn, wattcp, wget, ...,
but it installed. Can I just copy over the 'doslfn' from an older version's
disc, or is that feature compiled into kernel now?

I noticed almost right away that my USB driver causes a crash if I attempt
to assign it from the fdconfig.sys at boot. I use MDGx's USBASPI.EXE, and
the NJ32DISK.SYS USB driver. 

They works when I DEVLOAD them post boot-up, but the USB flash drive steals
the DVD-RW drive's letter (E:\ in my case). USBUHCI, and USBDRIVE don't work
at all for me. It not only wont load my USB drives, it doesn't even find
them. Strangely enough if I load them before USBASPI/NJ32DISK, my flash
drive is assigned M:\ instead.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-19 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Bernd Blaauw  wrote:
>
> Slightly offtopic: is there any foolproof way to automatically switch to
> the location a batchfile is in? a kind of "CDD %0" except that %0 is
> whatever you call it, instead of a full pathname. Same for TRUENAME %0

You might need FreeCOM 0.84-pre2, I think. It has "set /e" (but needs
%TEMP% !!) and "cdd" works for "c:\path\blah.exe". Otherwise, you'll
have to hack up a quick tool or use something premade (DJGPP's
dirname.exe from Shell Utils [shl2011b.zip]) or similar.

I'm not exactly sure I understand the issue, but that's as good as
guess as I can offer without knowing more. (What are you trying to do?
Something from within another .BAT file?)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-19 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 20-7-2011 1:12, Eric Auer schreef:
> What exactly goes wrong when you do what?
> At which step? Which error messages do you
> get, or do things hang? Crash? What sorts
> of everything did you try, what happened?

Lot's of stuff isn't functioning in the 2nd release, debugging that at 
the moment.

Slightly offtopic: is there any foolproof way to automatically switch to 
the location a batchfile is in? a kind of "CDD %0" except that %0 is 
whatever you call it, instead of a full pathname. Same for TRUENAME %0

>
> Eric :-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

> Has anyone had any luck installing this latest test release? 
> http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=5109&id=302138
> 
> I've tried everything from burning it to a disc, to mounting the boot
> floppy/iso through Grub4Dos, and even rebuilding the iso.
> 
> I read the readme.txt for the release, but following those exact steps
> didn't work either.

What exactly goes wrong when you do what?
At which step? Which error messages do you
get, or do things hang? Crash? What sorts
of everything did you try, what happened?

Eric :-)


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