Re: [FRIAM] Pester Power

2013-01-14 Thread Pamela McCorduck
By us all! On Jan 13, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: snicker Android gonads, indeed. In reality, The Google is such a large, unwieldy behemoth that we mere mortals are but gnats buzzing around its nether regions: not worthy of notice. However, the cartoon is greatly

[FRIAM] Larry, Curly, and Moe

2013-01-14 Thread Douglas Roberts
Sheesh, it just keeps getting better! I think Google is qualified to run LANL. http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/01/it-was-known-issue.html -- *Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins *

Re: [FRIAM] Pester Power

2013-01-14 Thread Owen Densmore
You know, I wonder what the Pester Threshold is to annoy the beasts (Google, Apple, MS, Amazon, etc.) enough to get results? It likely has some correlation with size and number of products. I think the consumer protection agencies of one flavor or another are just too bureaucratic. Too serious.

Re: [FRIAM] Pester Power

2013-01-14 Thread Douglas Roberts
I couldn't hurt to get an article describing their issues published in Linux Today, if getting their attention was the goal: http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/has-google-become-institution-bound-130113152507.html --Doug On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Pester Power

2013-01-14 Thread Parks, Raymond
The Pester Threshold is more about who you annoy within the beast than the beast itself. My wife is a past master at pester. Back when I was still in the USAF, our Volvo 265 broke down in Texas while we were visiting parents. We bought a demonstrator 745 off the Volvo dealer in San Antonio.

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Pester Power

2013-01-14 Thread Douglas Roberts
Love this story, Ray. Firm persistent can be good traits. --Doug On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Parks, Raymond rcpa...@sandia.gov wrote: The Pester Threshold is more about who you annoy within the beast than the beast itself. My wife is a past master at pester. Back when I was still

Re: [FRIAM] Larry, Curly, and Moe

2013-01-14 Thread Douglas Roberts
Beautiful! On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Joshua Thorp jth...@redfish.com wrote: ... I wonder if being incompetent violates Google's official corporate policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil? Hah, good one. Made me laugh. Tough having people handle the job of a python

Re: [FRIAM] Larry, Curly, and Moe

2013-01-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Joshua Thorp We would never say the python script was incompetent. Would you say IBM Watson/Deep Blue is incompetent at Jeopardy/Chess after it wipes the floor with the best human players in the world? Marcus FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Larry, Curly, and Moe

2013-01-14 Thread Joshua Thorp
No you are right, I was mostly trying to take a dig at Google in the pile on. But an automated boat wouldn't be completely 'empty' and its failure to navigate would be grounds for anger (at those damned engineers). So my whole line of thought turns out to be not that deep. Guess I was the

Re: [FRIAM] Larry, Curly, and Moe

2013-01-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/14/13 1:16 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote: But an automated boat wouldn't be completely 'empty' and its failure to navigate would be grounds for anger (at those damned engineers). On 60 minutes last night was (another) piece on robotics. One point was that the U.S. could be competitive in

Re: [FRIAM] Larry, Curly, and Moe

2013-01-14 Thread Douglas Roberts
This country needs more automation, and less, er, breeding. --Doug On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Marcus G. Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.comwrote: On 1/14/13 1:16 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote: But an automated boat wouldn't be completely 'empty' and its failure to navigate would be grounds for

[FRIAM] Java's security flaws prompt warnings to disable the software - San Jose Mercury News

2013-01-14 Thread Tom Johnson
Has anyone see updates on this? http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_22357009/?source=inthenews -tom johnson FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Java's security flaws prompt warnings to disable the software - San Jose Mercury News

2013-01-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/14/13 4:53 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: Has anyone see updates on this? http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_22357009/?source=inthenews http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/7u11-relnotes-1896856.html FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Update on the Java update

2013-01-14 Thread Carl Tollander
My understanding is, the problem is with the 1.7 version plugin for the browsers. Standalone JRE is ok. OTOH, many folks have trouble with the disable java buttons or aren't clear on the distinction between the plugin and the runtime, so they're getting advice to uninstall it completely.

[FRIAM] Dropbox big-time

2013-01-14 Thread Owen Densmore
OK, just lost another local external drive. Got a RAID box finally on order, BUT .. I'd like to also use the cloud. So I'm thinking: any of us using Dropbox big time .. i.e. backing up a large part of their digital ecosystem .. w/ the for-pay subscriptions? If so, how's it working out? My

Re: [FRIAM] Update on the Java update

2013-01-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/14/13 5:33 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: Update on the update: U.S. says Java still risky, even after security update http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/14/us-java-oracle-security-idUSBRE90D10P20130114 Microsoft CLR has had similar problems..

Re: [FRIAM] Update on the Java update

2013-01-14 Thread Douglas Roberts
Yes, of course. But what do you really think, Marcus? On Jan 14, 2013 9:47 PM, Marcus G. Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com wrote: On 1/14/13 5:33 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: Update on the update: U.S. says Java still risky, even after security update

Re: [FRIAM] Dropbox big-time

2013-01-14 Thread Arlo Barnes
I got Dropbox mainly for collaboration (sharing datasets and R files), and now I use it as the central storage location for all my photos - they go straight from the card (which is then cleared to make room) to Dropbox through it's automatic transfer function. I have had no problems, although the