Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

As a well-known philosopher once said, any one who criticizes philosophy is a fellow philosopher. I can cite the reference if anyone cares. Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sep 20, 2017 9:27 PM, "Nick Thompson" wrote: > Peirce’s Pragmati[ci]sm is

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Peirce’s Pragmati[ci]sm is actually a generalization of the logic of experimental science to all of philosophy. Quite splendid, actually. By the way, the Feynman quote is really dumb, and it’s annoying that people keep trotting it out as if it was sage. The reason birds can’t make use of

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Thanks, Glen, Simonds (?!) and all. This seems to have spiraled beyond my comprehension. On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:11 PM gⅼеɳ ☣ wrote: > Fantastic! That would make a good bumper sticker: > > Pareto Front Dempster-Shaffer > Fuzzy Belief Plausibility > > I worry about

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

In a design, I think it is useful to tolerate confusion about some things (e.g. not identifying some types or their domains, or whether certain propositions are true) even though other parts are clear. It involves ratcheting things down in a breadth-first or depth-first way, depending on the

[FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Tangentially on the topic of Philosophy v. Physics,  in my review of Dempster-Shaffer (to avoid making too stupid of misrepresentations on my bumper-sticker) I was fascinated to find Raymond Smullyan's "Types of Reasoners" reduced to formal logic (but also couched in natural language

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Fantastic! That would make a good bumper sticker: Pareto Front Dempster-Shaffer Fuzzy Belief Plausibility I worry about too many glue words, with modified, implementing, and measures. Reminds me why I like Clutch: > Ribonucleic acid freak out, the power of prayer. > Long halls of

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

NST - I still contend that a more dominant effect is not the "lost water" but the apples/oranges of *filling* by 8oz cups and *drinking* by 10-16 oz cups... Just sayin' - SAS On 9/20/17 1:52 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: Ok, so, I did the experiment. In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

REC/MD/GR/RA/et alii - Having worked on problems roughly described as multivariate optimization decision support, I'm thinking, a high dimensional Pareto Frontier with modified Dempster-Shaffer methods implementing Fuzzy Belief and Plausability measures.   It maps well onto consciousness as

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

Great phrase/takeway from this thread "Syncopated Intelligence"! I've already reprogrammed my bluetooth  mic/speaker in my Truck to say (in a somber, sotto voce, male voice) "What are you doing, Steve?" in place of the tiny accented female Asian Voice that used to say "Powah Onha" and then "I

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

That’s a quantum effect, right? Quantum Tunneling, modified by a spell corrector to be "Quantum Tunneling" which invokes the adjacent possible, implemented by Douglas Adams' "Infinite Improbability Drive". If you find soggy socks in your coffee (or vice-versa), it is likely that a Dolphin

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Mmm and today's batch had more flavor On Sep 20, 2017 1:52 PM, "Nick Thompson" wrote: > Ok, so, I did the experiment. > > > > In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the > grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Hi, Barry, Russ, et ceteri. According to a Very Wise Scholar (see link ), Natural selection is just a co-relation among identifiable traits of organisms such that:

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Ok, so, I did the experiment. In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until I had saturated the grounds. The the grounds required a little short of a cup to saturate. Then I put ten cups of

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Roger writes: “If we perceived things solely according to their fitness, then how do we perceive things which have multiple fitnesses, where different aspects of fitness vary to different schedules, where combinations of things have different fitnesses than the things met independently, where

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

On 09/20/2017 10:08 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I think the spirit of the NY Times article, and current trends, is _not_ to > reify. Right. That's what I was saying. 8^) But my guess is RussA isn't seeing this conversation. > Graphics processors, tensor processors, FPGAs, spiking systems,

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

(laughing) Only if it can be Quantum-Fied---so does this meen somehow coffe makers, socks, dustbunnes and hangers have weird energy string? My brain hurts considering that. A small spirte makes the coffee, hands it to a quick dwarf that takes a sock as a prank Lord Terry Pratchet from Vallhala is

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

I find most of what Hoffman says sort of over generalized from over simplifications. If we perceived things solely according to their fitness, then how do we perceive things which have multiple fitnesses, where different aspects of fitness vary to different schedules, where combinations of things

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

I think the spirit of the NY Times article, and current trends, is _not_ to reify. Graphics processors, tensor processors, FPGAs, spiking systems, quantum annealers, etc. are by in large tackling machine learning, not engineered intelligence (class AI) or even (necessarily) supervised

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

That’s a quantum effect, right? --Barry On 19 Sep 2017, at 19:57, Steven A Smith wrote: PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

And to go back to the topic, many have no idea how much their *thinking* does change with intense exercise or intense nutrition changes. All this argues directly against RussA's argument of reified ideas. And it relates back to the article Alfredo posted, too. Our intelligence doesn't reside

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

> I often meet people who see what I do to workout (including hanging upside > down from a bar and some weird wrist-breaking exercises) and they respond > like "Well, that's great but I would/could never do such a thing." Yep, like the distinction between low calorie diets vs. intense

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

On 09/20/2017 09:10 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Maybe, but if I could run 40 miles per hour > , > or began to develop an electric organ, I'm pretty sure I'd start to exercise > those

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

Maybe, but if I could run 40 miles per hour, or began to develop an electric organ, I'm pretty sure I'd start to exercise those capabilities. And if she could jump 10 feet in the air instead of

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

On 09/20/2017 08:44 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > What she prefers is constrained by her physical strength, and potential > skeletal and tissue vulnerabilities. Right. But my argument (here... I'm not necessarily convicted to this) is that what she prefers is not *merely* constrained by the

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

> How do progressively higher levels in a neural net selectively combine > signals into mappings? My dog isn't going to tell me how she selects an > item to steal & march around with, but if I could probe neurons in her brain > I might find one that fires for large but lightweight soft things

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

On 09/19/2017 01:54 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > To the extent there is compression or partitioning/expansion of the I/O > relation might give a `story' with regard to what's out there. Yes, that's a fantastic point ... a bit like the holographic principle, I suppose. > How do progressively

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Perhaps you aren't reading the other thread or that the mailing list is misbehaving again and you didn't receive my response to your reified ideas argument? My counter argument was along the same lines as Hoffman's idea that the decoupling from the environment (through interfaces) can lead to