and then sort
through how that strikes my values.
As I usually say it, the point is more that everyone is a 'winner' if
you just select the right point of view... Nope, it doesn't quite tell
me what to say to people who&#x
ct, and so one
sided, that I couldn't help notice.I suppose the political bone
throwing that's goes on with the interviewer being a hand picked straight
man for the 'cause'...is hardly new either I suppose. Perhaps I'm just
not
ct, and so one
sided, that I couldn't help notice.I suppose the political bone
throwing that's goes on with the interviewer being a hand picked straight
man for the 'cause'...is hardly new either I suppose. Perhaps I'm just
not
ct, and so one
sided, that I couldn't help notice.I suppose the political bone
throwing that's goes on with the interviewer being a hand picked straight
man for the 'cause'...is hardly new either I suppose. Perhaps I'm just
not
sed to and know what to expect from, you now have more blush
pieces for targeted interests. Their editorial positions are still
seem well researched, fair minded and practical, but the news is for
rent more and more of the time. Anyone else notice that?
Ph
ching what's actually happening. I see more specifically
useful observation methods for that than reported, ways of reading the
leading signs of structural change, etc., but now I think I'll buy it
and see what else might be hiding from me...!
on that everything happens by complex processes has not been
made into a simple story that everyone involved can agree on yet, but
we're looking at real causation and making progress, and the media
should be picking up on that.I think they're not because
his not being able to measure his errors though.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Robt. Ulanowitz 2007 "Ecology: a dialogue between the quick and the
dead"
in Reframing Complexity, ISCE Publishing, F.Capra, A.Juarrero,
P.Sotolongo & J.Uden eds.
--makes good progress in pushing systems dynamics toward a credible
physical systems view
g sticks of the
red pines swaying with the wind in synchrony.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: sy <mailto:[E
whole host of intensifying complex system problems, but
appears really just not interested in complex system thinking.
The question is how to get people interested in the question. Our
brains are such stunningly splendid computers, and yet we talk about the
world as if it was tinker toys!
In case some of you might offer ways to improve a 4 page conference
paper.
http://www.synapse9.com/PH-Models&NatSys.pdf
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 1
A genealogy of systems thinking, http://www.iigss.net/gPICT.jpg
begun by Don McNeill.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
rming them.
I seem to take wild stabs at things, but it's partly because I don't get
invested in them that way. Sometimes I just build notions to watch how
they fall apart. If someone responds I do clean things up quickly, but
I'm not actually very goal directed. It's one of
particular kind of avoidance is a perennial
bind I find in talking with people at all levels in all professions, and my
own solution for how to not be overwhelmed by doubt seems impossible to
apply. For myself I just drop my guard and look at *everything*. Other
peop
way we're multiplying our global mistakes puts that
in real doubt. That being said, I've always also been rather impressed
by Harvard in particular for continually supporting interesting and
unfettered new work, and producing less useless verbiage. Maybe it
just seems to me they'
by combining
directed variation with directed selection, do that handily. I really
wish I could find a journal competent in discussing the data of
speciation that doesn't abhor the idea that it might involve a transient
process!
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~
I think maybe we need new a new Computer-Based Mapping Tool to
understand and display of the exploding environment of Computer-Based
Mapping Tools...
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington
r could be addressed?
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: sy <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g
same locally
experimental way. If systems are their whole complex of parts, all
contributing independently, wouldn't it make more sense to say that in this
accumulative experimental way they're discovering their rules rather than
following them?
--
Ph
s
also missing some essential things.
I hope it's not too painful to watch me struggling with the words for
this. Often enough I just get frustrated, but I think this bit may have
it fairly s
c Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
> www.analyticjournalism.com
> 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)
> http://www.jtjohnson.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
> To ch
Sure Mike, the questions others have been raising are part of what led
me to the gaps I found, and those questions don't loose relevance.
Maybe the way to point out one gap in our thinking is with a question.
What are the limits of growth for systems with no external constraints?
Phil He
t.
I do, though, see how you could read my statement as saying no one has
used graphing yet which was not quite what I meant.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
N
Paul, would your data be available for me to comb for the kinds of
leading questions my method generates?
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212
structure. Yes all this would take an effort, and lots of times you'd
run out of funding and have to cut the effort short of advancing the
pure science of complexity... Never the less, one can also shoot for
that, and ma
interested in the much larger
> >> task of taking a
> >>> company of 40K and tracking every action and
> >> interaction. And then
> >>> by extension, actions connected outside of the
> >> organization. I
> >>&g
recognizable, but not to suggest that I think that the tone of
discussions here, on any subject, is trivial.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-484
were built for representing classes of similiar events
as following the same formula.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
orm spacing and more evidence of individuals or small groups
splitting off and then others pealing off to join them until some large
piece had separated.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washing
rrents of human ideas, not rules. What distinguishes between an
email addressing a critical issue that simply goes dead and engages no
one, and an email addressing trivial matters that becomes everyone's
reference for a while, is completely unk
study. Our maps of systems, mine being just
a bump on a curve, are very inadequate representations of what's
happening in the physical systems. We can use them as exploration
guides thou
plish the
purposes you define as our goal in steering the global system, but they
don't use our method, and I think a good thing would be to learn theirs.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington
foqghrmIrARChK1AKCmoEF4e5RUe9CeGQbMIVXVUCTy/wCdGie7
> > 7Uusym2Um1MQEeYkk1d3VFg=
> > =4bl9
> > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> >
> >
> > FRIAM Applied Complexi
how many planets of airable land would you need ?
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/000174.html
how much CO2 do you produce ?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.05/carbon.html
--
Phil Henshaw
Roger, good questions,
On 1/15/07, Phil Henshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Roger,
So, here's what I think of as a good example of a stupid question. Why
does someone introduce the theme of a book with the question of whether
complex living systems are plausible???Is that
ever
the heck informs the system' I find it's clearly stored in the loops,
but in most systems the loops are inconveniently broken much or most of
the time... My main criterion is that theory should refer to the
reality, since the reality is really too complicated to a
al flowing shapes in their measures?
On 1/14/07, Phil Henshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nick,
Hi. Yea, thinking about the difference between instrumental
(physical) and abstract (theoretical) causes of even perfectly well
behaved things is a tough climb. I'm glad if anyone is will
//www.lulu.com/
>
> In which printing is driven by consumption. Furthermore, lulu.com
> automatically places the publication on Amazon.com.
>
> I'd buy it,
>
> Marko A. Rodriguez
> Los Alamos National Laboratory (P362-proto)
> Los Alamos, NM 87545
> P
h.com
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
&
e model is understood, is
whether the switches that completely reorient the developmental
processes originate from inside or out.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
>
> Sure, there's definitely a p
g the instrumental causes that
clearly seems to be the center of the fun.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: [EMA
Yep, kind of an interestingly compressed
scale!
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
McCorduck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, Phil, I knew that all along. :-)
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2007, at 7:01 PM, phil henshaw wrote:
> >
> > It occurs to me some of you may have wondered but not thought to
ask what
> > .·´ ¯ `·.¸¸
identify
otherwise. They're an observer's an entry point.With close
attention these exposed instrumental mechanisms can be appreciated and
found to usefully differ from many our our ideas of abstract causation
applied to them so far.In two words, 'look inside
w in this case, but sometimes you can identify a larger property, like
if you saw birds 'dropping in' on a forming 'V' rather than 'shaking
out' into the 'V' form. Watching the details of how things happen is
often very helpful.
Phil Henshaw
-- how the hell do you know it's BS -- if you
> don't know already!!
>
> Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures
>
> Expertise is not knowing everything, but knowing what to look for.
>
--
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
of natural system behaviors like
these we're left wildly guessing, of course. I just try to balance the
shakiness of my foundations for it with my confidence in the
conclusions, always looking for the strong foundation of the behavior&#
"The birdies jus' do it, and could care less!"
There are structures, yes, and there are things that play with those
structures, you, me, the birds and other things with an inside.
Depending on how you use the tools you decide which to look for and
st
your computer screen right now!
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
explorations: www.syna
strong
leaders and the ones in Cancun weren't, or something. Clearly it's a
whole lot easier to marvel at them than really understand what's
happening.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
6
olutions.
<https://secure.ga3.org/03/make_a_donation_activists/?source=wacucs_emai
ld>
If you have general questions, comments or concerns about this action,
send email [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
replying to this action will send the letter.
We ar
But Hey!What have I been saying about every thing interesting in the
world being quite out of control?You control freaks are missing all
the good stuff !!
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft
identifying autonomous natural systems in the world by mining the data
sets of change over time for their tell tale dynamics.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
ng in the
world but ourselves would quite directly blind us to the thresholds we
cross as multiplying good things goes bad.Verifying and finding
diverse powerful examples seems easy.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
mate mathematical continuity in the flowing shapes
of their data curves. I'm developing tests using statistical measures
for the lack of 'zig zaggyness' of data curves (as an indicator of
smooth
times, and that its reasonable to say it's more a matter of narrowing
down what actually happened.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
ke a real difference that can't be faked, there for anyone to see if
they look for them?
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
Well, how about the ability to respond to unexpected situations with
useful choices? Is that low or high on the tests of intelligence?
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
-Original Message-
From: Rob Howard
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'The F
rs' too, which both certainly are. How
both also rely on a core framework of ideas to accomplish their confined
abilities in that area, and how all results are therefore direct images
of that core framework, is
rhaps the above thoughts about
the kinds of competition that swell volume and multiply loosers vs.
those that produce remarkable harmony and variety were somewhat
suggested by Quin ponting out the global main stream denial of that
difference is a significant issue at this time of deep envir
like music than strings of yes/no calculations wouldn't
they?
If we really don't know how thought works, perhaps it be better to say
that AI is the use of machines in an attempt to imitat
>
>
>
> Marko A. Rodriguez
>
> Los Alamos National Laboratory (P362-proto)
>
> Los Alamos, NM 87545
>
> Phone +1 505 606 1691
>
> http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~okram
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Phil Henshaw wrote:
>
>
l for that? All my notes are home, but I remember some stocks &
flows model theorists talking about maximizing systems by something
like internal recycling. Does that connect?
--
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~
Marcus writes:
>
> Phil Henshaw wrote:
>
> >..well, unless you rely on how a system 'out of control' will take
care
> >of itself
> >
> The basic mechanism is evolution. Fit organizations survive
> and weak ones do not.
Except you leave out
Marcus wrote:
> Phil Henshaw wrote:
> > Growth taken to it's absolute limit always leads to an absolutely
> > impenetrable wall of complexity, at which point turbulence
> > or it's equivalents interrupt the
> > whole process. I don't think we want
rather good it seems...
>
> The Carrot Clustering Engine is getting pretty good:
>
> http://demo.carrot2.org/demo-stable/search?q=complex+adaptive+systems
>
> The idea is simple: the results of standard search engines are too
> unstructured. The Carrot project has been doing a great job of
ms, a large part of the data science has been discarding for a long
time as useless. The big stumbling block seems to be the old habit of
thinking that the way to understand data is to replace it with
'timeless' formulas. I turn t
the stabilization of new form
becomes satisfying by resolving the start-up cell's unstable
contradictions. Humanity's institutional rules that the 'zoom' is never
to be allowed to stop seem to be a natural misunderstanding coming
from our being swept up in a vast change in
Markus wrote:
> Phil Henshaw wrote:
>
> >That could cause a wave of change in how
> >money is used to multiply money.The people following the new
> >practice could choose not to do business with those clinging
> to the old way, interpreting it as 'cheating&#x
Doug writes,
> Phil writes.
>
> "I think that would have the usual negative side effects of
> imposing political controls on 'free' markets."
>
>
> I think we have been led down the wrong path. Marts are free
> and interesting. Capitalism however is a process of control
> of markets, using th
the utopians who have taken something
like this approach in the past also seem to have put themselves at a
competitive disadvantage and been pushed aside.
I think the better choice is the one I observe being used by nature,
spending the returns instead of reinvesting them.
Phil Hen
> >
> > That describes, in a jocular way, the concept of homeostasis. When
> > the regular balances aren't enough, you just rely on your reserves
of
> > creativity. The reserves don't cover the gap for infinite strains
> > tending rapidly toward infinity, just for some range of unexpected
> >
nteresting option is to figure out what the interesting
options are.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: [EMAIL
One thing seems sure is that the world's obsession with multiplying
wealth, power and the complexity of our lives will stop being fun and
loose credibility, the same way any 'unstoppable' force built on
contradictions does. There's nothing more perfectly certain to be
embarrassed than a plan to a
ers. That fails to inform the community because the
truth is everyone is right from a different point of view and
suppressing all views but one serves as blinders making the collective
understanding fragmented and unresponsive. Well, it's a little
'cartoonish' but could use
The wish list item? Why the hell doesn't someone invent a readable
quoting format. The old reliable '>' prefix for every line is really a
pain when it splits lines erratically. It would be a fairly simple
programming task to train a text reader not to do that it would seem
site has two examples of how to
use that technique, one for the holistic environmental design
'sustainability' movement and one for 'General Systems Theory'.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~
oops, that last calculation was off, leaving out the effect of
reincurring the lost opportunity for each one of the 50 reincarnations
of the building before it has a use!
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft
will build and destroy it at least 50 times before
a terrorist does, and the lost opportunity cost of $10 million for 5000
years the way you normally calculate it at 3.5% return is 1.8*10^84.
That's a lot of br
Marcus wrote:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In my experience those societies that have some homogeneity also are
> > the most tolerant and therefore diverse ideas do emerge. Sweden and
> > even Poland.
> >
> Make the group like the individual and vice versa and then
> self-preservation i
pret what they normally do through a
general principal for the succession of developmental changes in
systems.
... well, I think I got most of it.
--
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
tel: 212-795-4
e question about
it. People obviously think that if they don't get it there's nothing
to get.
I think what keeps a marketplace of ideas fluid and responsive, making
it open and exploratory, and gives a culture "adaptive management
strategies when faced with change or ch
. Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] US intelligence agencies "discover" blogs and
> wikis
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; ch
ntegration of hard measures, study of whole impacts and best
practices of holistic design and development that the architect's
sustainability movement is based on, the LEED model.There's lots
of room to reinvent stuff from natural system principles it seems to
me.
> Phil Hensh
and the 'doctor with real sick patient' view just
gets punched in the face over and over. The fact that there isn't
anyone fighting in Iraq not defending their sacred honor should be the
But, is it the 'magic' of numbers that produces the patterns or the
patterns that produce the 'magic' of numbers?? big difference it seems
to me.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft
t the
mayhem we now have and justly deserve. Nature must have some good a
reason for having all minds make up their own worlds, meanings and
points of view. Maybe it would be good to build the worlds in our
minds the same way... ? :)
> Phil Henshaw wrote:
> > Blogs are just gossi
een anyone openly discuss our problems that way lately??
Almost all the eventfulness in nature is produced by natural systems
with decentralized organization.Know anyone who has asked for a
rigorous method for observing how they work lately??
Ph
ntrol' the undesirable symptoms directly.
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ex
exploding complexity as 'stability'. It's not.
At least for those under 30, taking a spin through my neighborhood might
let you watch the whole event as it happens, one defini
e the spacial and process structures and developmental milestones of
natural self-organizing systems". I think one of the main design
problems of man made systems is our reading problem for natural ones.
What do you think they'll answer???
;. http://www.synapse9.com/SustainabilityNYT.htm
Phil
Henshaw
.·´ ¯
`·.~~~680
Ft. Washington Ave NY NY
10040
tel:
212-795-4844
e-mail: [EMAIL P
while looking for anyplace that sees the subject as the
kind of scientific problem that would be benefited by good observation
technique. There's great room for the field to grow in that direction!
Ph
ons.
>
> Paul Paryski
> Santa Fe
>
>
--
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
tel: 212-795-4844
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
explorations: www.synapse9.com
===
the idea of 'elephant' if they talk rather than
fight!
Phil
Henshaw
.·´ ¯
`·.~~~680
Ft. Washington Ave NY NY
10040
tel:
212-795-4844
e
larpedia' just
move us backwards in exposing and validating independent points of view?
Phil Henshaw .·´ ¯ `·.
~~~
680 Ft. Washington Ave
NY NY 10040
tel: 212-795-4844
Title: Message
As I
began to learn how to identify coherent emerging systems that were
'out of control' , but working quite smoothly, I
also began to discover the many terms of
natural language that pertain to the
subject. Natural language is not 'rigorous' but is
quite 'rich' in system
at you tend to think (speaking metaphorically) of turning on the windshield
washers and opening the vent, instead of drawing pictures in the fog on the
windshield and blaming the endless squealing and crashing on anything bu
nomous complex systems is
explosive, that recognizable pattern can be used as a
key.
Phil
Henshaw
.·´ ¯
`·.~~~680
Ft. Washington Ave NY NY
10040
tel:
212-795-4844
401 - 500 of 622 matches
Mail list logo
