Shoot. That last one wasn't meant for public consumption. Sorry for
sounding like such a poopy-head.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
> Steve,
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> I confess that I enjoy rubbing their noses in their speculative
> circle-jerks, now and then.
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> Another topic: do you know
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From: Steve Smith
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: 8/29/2009 11:16:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Agents, stocks, and flows
Doug -
I think you suggested specifying and designing a system from requirements and
something like first principle
That sounds really good. When would be a good time?
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
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> I've got an ice-chest full of beers and melting ice if you have time to tip
> one later today.
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> - Steve
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Doug -
I think you suggested specifying and designing a system from
requirements and something like first principles (which I think is a
really good way to approach actually solving the problem).
I suggested a review of the *real world* (not computer systems and
models) for networks of entit
Steve,
I confess that I enjoy rubbing their noses in their speculative
circle-jerks, now and then.
Another topic: do you know Ed MacKerrow?
--Doug
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> Doug -
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> Suzanne and I just watched Paper Chase (1973) again and were treated to the
> d
Doug -
Suzanne and I just watched Paper Chase (1973) again and were treated to
the dry commentary of John Hausman as curmudgeonly professor
Kingsfield. Your comment reminded me of the equally dry delivery he
gave in a TV commercial several years later for an investment house?
where he utter
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
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> I wonder if the combined genius, memory, attention, focus of this group can
> come up with real-world systems which (obviously) seem to work this way
> (require this level of abstraction/complexity to model).
>
> -Steve
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> I thought I
Roger -
I think this is a good analysis of Russ's idea/question/pursuit.
But/And that is what makes it an interesting pursuit. Self-modifying
code has always been a hairy-scary mess but/and we have slowly found
ways to tame it enough to make it useful in various situations.
Two platitudes
Has anybody just tried to design this application the old-fashioned way;
i.e., develop a set of requirements that
- define the interactions between the components of the system,
- identify (clearly, no vagueness allowed) the desired results from
running the simulation,
- identify (clea
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:46:26PM -0500, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> I don't think you'll find this because it implies programming a higher
> purpose and allowing the agents to jump the rails, as it were, and start
> negotiating their way through the combinatorics of alternative networks.
> Similarly
Roger Critchlow wrote:
It's not obvious how to program the same capabilities without the
teaching the agents how to apply the same common sense and expert
senses which the programmer uses to frame a fixed solution space.
Framing a fixed solution space is tricky! Take a data set with lots of
po
I don't think you'll find this because it implies programming a higher
purpose and allowing the agents to jump the rails, as it were, and start
negotiating their way through the combinatorics of alternative networks.
Similarly, you won't find models in which agents invent new inputs to
monitor, new
Thus spake Russ Abbott circa 09-08-28 07:26 AM:
> My question was simpler than that. Is there work on stocks and flows models
> in which the network structure is not static?
I suspect you won't find a toolkit that does this because the diagrams
are (usually?) animated via a system of differential
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Sent: 8/28/2009 5:49:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Agents, stocks, and flows
In a discussion with a colleague today we talked briefly about
stocks and flows networks. It struck me that a stocks and flows
model is a limited sort of service-orient
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Sent: 8/28/2009 5:49:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Agents, stocks, and flows
In a discussion with a colleague today we talked briefly about stocks and flows
networks. It struck me that a stocks and flows model is a limited sort of
service-o
In a discussion with a colleague today we talked briefly about stocks and
flows networks. It struck me that a stocks and flows model is a limited sort
of service-oriented agent-based model. In a service-oriented agent-based
model, agents accept inputs and produce outputs -- the simplest version
be
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