Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
Look no further than me. I don't know how my component parts work. John, do you have a recommendation for a book on geometric algebra? Frank --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications:

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
How idoes genetic programming with automatic function definition not achieve this? From: Friam on behalf of John Kennison Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 6:21 AM To: "Friam@redfish. com" Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread John Kennison
I like the idea of a non-sequential machine, or perhaps, a being, whose operation is NOT determined by knowing how its component parts function. I don’t see how to go about constructing such a thing, unless I assume that there are laws of physics which remain undiscovered. So for now, I will

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread John Kennison
P.S. I just realized that when Frank said "Look no further than me" he was not referring to his considerable knowledge, but to himself. It's a nice point. JK From: John Kennison Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 2:32:37 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread John Kennison
Hi Marcus, Frank, et al, I am a mathematician who knows category theory, which Rosen seems to have found exciting. My thinking about a machine that would learn how to reprogram itself is surely at a naive level, but it seems to me that it would feel more like a being than a machine. All I

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread Nick Thompson
Frank, Jon, John, etc., I wish you guys would look at Rosen. I would be happy to loan you my copy. In Chapter 4, The Concept of State, he is arguing that assumptions deep in Newtonian Mechanics preclude or constrain a discussion of biological organization (let alone, a psychological one)

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
Sorry, John. It was a weak attempt to be humorous. Also, I mistyped. I meant "algebraic geometry" when I was asking for a book recommendation. Frank --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications:

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread John Kennison
Hi Frank, I didn't realize it was supposed to be a joke --it seemed like a relevant example. I'm not an algebraic geometer but: . . . there is a historical survey in https://www.ime.usp.br/~pleite/pub/artigos/abhyankar/abhyankar.pdf Historical Ramblings in Algebraic Geometry and Related

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
Well, I'm not a sequential machine although my wife has her doubts. Thanks for the algebraic geometry suggestions. Jon Zingale and I will try to master the subject. Others may join us on Saturday mornings if they wish. Frank --- Frank Wimberly My memoir:

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
John writes: “Is there something that animals, or more particularly humans, can do which we can prove cannot be duplicated by a sequential machine?” A sequential computer program could simply be a loop that sampled random numbers and indexed into the address space of the computer program