Re: Nullriver's MediaLink Leopard on a G4
On Apr 16, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: After going through the SoyLatte site, downloading the OpenJDK source and looking at the stuff in there Ive come to the conclusion that no one's successfully built Java 1.6 for PPC. The SoyLatte site, at the very top of the page says (Intel). I suspect you've got the intel version, hence the 'Bad CPU' error. I found this version of JDK 1.7 which they say is for PPC Macs: 32-bit OpenJDK 7 Beta 1 for Mac OS X 10.5 PowerPC (Beta Release): openjdk7-macppc-2009-12-16-b4.tar.bz2 on http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ And this is what I get as Java -version in Terminal, after adding it to my PATH: Acoustic-Piano-Mac-3:~ moonstoneartstudio$ java -version openjdk version 1.7.0-internal OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-internal- landonf_2009_12_16_12_54-b00) OpenJDK Zero VM (build 17.0-b05, interpreted mode) But it doesn't show up in the Java Preferences.app window ... just 1.5 and 1.4, and when I try to run PS3 Media Server, it still says there's no Java version = 1.6. Know what I'm missing? It's a Developer package, and hasn't been turned on, even though its in the PATH? I tried doing a Safe Boot thinking rebuilding caches and kextcache (or whatever) would get things rolling ... and I haven't found a forum on the subject as yet. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Folder Label Color settings ?
Running Tiger on G4 While transferring files from my father in-law's G4 internal HD to an external HD I colored the files that I transferred to keep track. It seems that the folders or files that I dragged and dropped before coloring now allow me to uncolor them on the new drive. But if I colored them before transferring, now I cannot uncolor them on the external. Not a big deal really, but any suggestions are appreciated Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Installer for patched KeyLargoATA.kext for limited large drive support in pre-QS2002 G4 Power Macs
I would be interested in this for my friends computer, the M5183 I upgraded for them last yr!!! It has a 7200rpm 250g (or is it a 160g?) HD and they only have 128g of user space... -Original Message- From: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net Sent: Apr 16, 2011 1:21 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Installer for patched KeyLargoATA.kext for limited large drive support in pre-QS2002 G4 Power Macs Hello Power Mac people! Once again I'm happy to share what I enjoyed playing with. It is not much, but then: I'm not a software developer, so for my limited skills this is quite okay I think! On request of Valter Prahlad I made a Mac OS X 10.4 version of the modified KeyLargoATA.kext, that ignores the lba-48 Open Firmware property and thus always enables large drive support on Power Mac G4 computers prior to the QS2002. The advantage: you'll have access to the partitions past the 128 GB line regardless of the lba-48 property. For example, when the NVRAM has been zapped, or when the PRAM battery is low. My previous KeyLargoATA.kext that I compiled for Leopard doesn't work in Tiger. I tested this and it breaks the system (no root device) (temporarily, until restored from another Mac OS X). The source code for KeyLargoATA is the same for 10.5 and for 10.4. My guess is that it isn't interchangeable due to Xcode. I used 3.1.3 for Leopard, but had to use 2.5 for Tiger. So, while at it I figured out how to write a very simple Installer package and it worked on my system. I'll tweak it a little more and then I'll have Valter test it. QUESTION: Is anybody else interested in the package? If so, are there any suggestions where to put it so that people can download it? I'm planning also to make such an Installer package for the 10.5 version, or even one combined package (which is not soo easy BTW, at least for me, at least not yet) that installs the correct kext for either 10.4 or 10.5. Maybe also a 10.3 version of the kext is of some interest? Anyway, I'm looking for your feedback! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... “Choose love and peace above all other options. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life, in all its expressions, and surrender all judgment to God. --- Dr. David R. Hawkins -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder Label Color settings ?
G'day Cliff No problems renaming on my imac running 10.6.7 Are you sure the files/folders aren't locked? or the privileges different? Do a get info on them to check. Regards Santa On 18/04/2011, at 1:06 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: Running Tiger on G4 While transferring files from my father in-law's G4 internal HD to an external HD I colored the files that I transferred to keep track. It seems that the folders or files that I dragged and dropped before coloring now allow me to uncolor them on the new drive. But if I colored them before transferring, now I cannot uncolor them on the external. Not a big deal really, but any suggestions are appreciated Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
On Apr 15, 7:46 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Apr 15, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Is there a way for us with G4's to play Netflix movies on our Mac's? Everything I read says I have to have an Intel Mac. Yank the motherboard and PS out of the case, install a compatible intel mobo, make into a very mac-esque Hackintosh http://www.webfusion.net.nz/g4pc/ %-P Netflix is absolutely Intel-only. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Netflix is absolutely not Intel only. Silverlight installs for supported browsers and runs on AMD chipsets too. http://preview.tinyurl.com/y96fe7v Also, the amount of work involved to make a G4 compatible with PC parts will take more time than what it's worth vs. getting a mid tower PC case that will support ATX or Micro ATX mobos and standard power supplies that will fit in these cases. Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
Netflix is absolutely not Intel only. Silverlight installs for supported browsers and runs on AMD chipsets too. http://preview.tinyurl.com/y96fe7v As I stated earlier, there IS a Silverlight installer for PPC Macs. The Intel version is also applicable to AMD as both are Intel_64/i386, although Silverlight actually will only run in 32-bit mode. You have to relaunch the browser in 32-bit mode, as Snow Leopard defaults the applications to 64-bit mode, even if the Snow Leopard kernel was booted in 32-bit mode (arch=i386). Also, the amount of work involved to make a G4 compatible with PC parts will take more time than what it's worth vs. getting a mid tower PC case that will support ATX or Micro ATX mobos and standard power supplies that will fit in these cases. Obviously, it was more time than I was willing to expend. Simply installing the Silverlight product on my G4 Mac Mini was not enough, although the installer DID NOT OBJECT. However, once Netflix was running on the browser, it told me that the PPC platform was not supported, not withstanding the fact that Silverlight installed on this platform without objection. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
On Apr 17, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Michael G.M. wrote: On Apr 15, 7:46 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Apr 15, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Is there a way for us with G4's to play Netflix movies on our Mac's? Everything I read says I have to have an Intel Mac. Yank the motherboard and PS out of the case, install a compatible intel mobo, make into a very mac-esque Hackintosh http://www.webfusion.net.nz/g4pc/ %-P Netflix is absolutely Intel-only. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Netflix is absolutely not Intel only. Silverlight installs for supported browsers and runs on AMD chipsets too. http://preview.tinyurl.com/y96fe7v Pedantically true and absolutely irrelevant within the context of this mailing list. IN that contect 'Intel only'refers to Macs based on Intel chipsets. Who gives a rats patootie that silverlight runs on AMD as well? The whole POINT of AMD is that they're cheap Intel X86 compatible clone cpus. If they don't run software designed for intel systems they petty much don't work as clones, do they? You don't go out and buy Windows for AMD do you? No. Therefore this is a pointless distinction. Also, the amount of work involved to make a G4 compatible with PC parts will take more time than what it's worth vs. getting a mid tower PC case that will support ATX or Micro ATX mobos and standard power supplies that will fit in these cases. OHai! Srsly? It was a joke... -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
Netflix is absolutely not Intel only. Silverlight installs for supported browsers and runs on AMD chipsets too. http://preview.tinyurl.com/y96fe7v In the parlance of G3-5-list, the term Intel only means as opposed to PPC (Power PC processors used on G3-5 Macs). AMD chipsets are considered Intel compatible and thus included within the expression Intel only. As I stated earlier, there IS a Silverlight installer for PPC Macs. AFAIK the only PPC Silverlight version is version 1.0, and Silverlight is currently up into version 4.0. I've never seen any Silverlight media that will play on the PPC version 1.0 of Silverlight. If you have a link to a working installation of Silverlight 4.0 for PPC Macs please post that link. I don't believe there is ANY Silverlight media that works with PPC Silverlight version 1.0. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
On Apr 17, 2011, at 4:28 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Netflix is absolutely not Intel only. Silverlight installs for supported browsers and runs on AMD chipsets too. http://preview.tinyurl.com/y96fe7v As I stated earlier, there IS a Silverlight installer for PPC Macs. Yes, Silverlight version 1, which pretty much ANY silverlight-based web site or tool on the planet does NOT use, since it was superseded by the much more capable version 2 in a matter of months. Silverlight 1 was essentially the Proof-of-Concept; it wasn't even remotely a Flash replacement until version 2. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
On Apr 17, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Michael G.M. wrote: On Apr 15, 7:46 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Apr 15, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Is there a way for us with G4's to play Netflix movies on our Mac's? Everything I read says I have to have an Intel Mac. Netflix is absolutely not Intel only. Silverlight installs for supported browsers and runs on AMD chipsets too. http://preview.tinyurl.com/y96fe7v Not quite. AMD -is- Intel compatible. Generally... any software that runs on Intel, runs on AMD. So perhaps a better phrase might have been Intel compatible only. Emulators? Not a clue, but the software would still see an Intel compatible processor. Also, the amount of work involved to make a G4 compatible with PC parts will take more time than what it's worth vs. getting a mid tower PC case that will support ATX or Micro ATX mobos and standard power supplies that will fit in these cases. Probably true! Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder Label Color settings ?
On Apr 17, 3:28 pm, Brian Christmas ozsa...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure the files/folders aren't locked? or the privileges different? Do a get info on them to check. Regards Santa Yes, that was the problem exactly. Had to go through each file and unlock, change the owner and color. Thank you for the response. cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
I run Netflix on several Hackintosh systems. There is NO modifying of any kind required to install SilverLight on a Hackintosh. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Folder Label Color settings ?
On Apr 17, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: On Apr 17, 3:28 pm, Brian Christmas ozsa...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure the files/folders aren't locked? or the privileges different? Do a get info on them to check. Regards Santa Yes, that was the problem exactly. Had to go through each file and unlock, change the owner and color. Thank you for the response. Did you figure out what caused the problem? I ask because a few folks have come to me with similar weird ownership issues after copying a lot of files to external drives, and I haven't been able to figure out why. OS X is supposed to allow full read/write access to files on removable drives. I suspect it's got something to do with ACL's on files but I've usually just brute-forced the issue by forcing an ownership change. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
I run Netflix on several Hackintosh systems. There is NO modifying of any kind required to install SilverLight on a Hackintosh. Well there IS a required alteration. The installation package must be opened and the installation_check module must be deleted, then the package must be closed. After that, Silverlight will install on any Hackintosh. Incidentally, the same alteration is necessary to get the PPC version of Silverlight to install on a Mini. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
On Apr 17, 2011, at 8:33 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I run Netflix on several Hackintosh systems. There is NO modifying of any kind required to install SilverLight on a Hackintosh. Well there IS a required alteration. The installation package must be opened and the installation_check module must be deleted, then the package must be closed. After that, Silverlight will install on any Hackintosh. Humm, I've installed Silverlight on several Intel hackintosh without any modification to the installer necessary. Seems to work for me. What happens when you try to install without this alteration? Incidentally, the same alteration is necessary to get the PPC version of Silverlight to install on a Mini. Again, what PPC version are you talking about here? Version 1.0 is USELESS, and newer versions have no PPC code, so installing Intel code onto a PPC Mac won't work even if you can get the installer to run. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: netflix
Peter, I have NEVER modified in any way the SilverLight installer to make it install on a Hackintosh. I've installed SilverLight on 7 different Hackintosh systems, with NO modification. What system did you install on that required a modification? -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Installer for patched KeyLargoATA.kext for limited large drive support in pre-QS2002 G4 Power Macs
Yes I am very interested in a driver that will let me easily see large hard drives on Quicksilver G4's! Question: I've got a QS2002 800Mhz machine with a bad IDE controller. I put in a VTS Ultra/Tek 66 and now I am able to boot and the machine doesn't erratically hang up any longer. Do you think your kext will work with the Ultra/TEK 66 to get large hdd support? ref: I think it's Vendor ID: Ox105A=4186 DeviceID: 0x4D38=19768 Revision ID=1 PDC 20262 and Cardvendor ID is 105A ref: http://eshop.macsales.com/Reviews/Framework.cfm?page=/Hard_Drives/vstultratek/VSTUltra.html http://www.barefeats.com/hard8.html On Apr 16, 12:21 pm, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: Hello Power Mac people! Once again I'm happy to share what I enjoyed playing with. It is not much, but then: I'm not a software developer, so for my limited skills this is quite okay I think! On request of Valter Prahlad I made a Mac OS X 10.4 version of the modified KeyLargoATA.kext, that ignores the lba-48 Open Firmware property and thus always enables large drive support on Power Mac G4 computers prior to the QS2002. The advantage: you'll have access to the partitions past the 128 GB line regardless of the lba-48 property. For example, when the NVRAM has been zapped, or when the PRAM battery is low. My previous KeyLargoATA.kext that I compiled for Leopard doesn't work in Tiger. I tested this and it breaks the system (no root device) (temporarily, until restored from another Mac OS X). The source code for KeyLargoATA is the same for 10.5 and for 10.4. My guess is that it isn't interchangeable due to Xcode. I used 3.1.3 for Leopard, but had to use 2.5 for Tiger. So, while at it I figured out how to write a very simple Installer package and it worked on my system. I'll tweak it a little more and then I'll have Valter test it. QUESTION: Is anybody else interested in the package? If so, are there any suggestions where to put it so that people can download it? I'm planning also to make such an Installer package for the 10.5 version, or even one combined package (which is not soo easy BTW, at least for me, at least not yet) that installs the correct kext for either 10.4 or 10.5. Maybe also a 10.3 version of the kext is of some interest? Anyway, I'm looking for your feedback! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OpenOffice vs Oracle
On 2010/11/23 08:32, Dan so eloquently wrote: hum. Things are getting messy. An interesting read... http://www.infoworld.com/t/desktop-productivity/openofficeorg-under-oracle-still-viable-746 http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@native-lang.openoffice.org/msg04865.html Anyone using the 3.3 beta builds? Feels like Oracle wanted to play rock-paper-scissors, but has come up lizard. Looks like Oracle has taken the highway option… http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/04/oracle-gives-up-on-ooo-after-community-forks-the-project.ars or: http://tinyurl.com/3t3j3l4 or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3t3j3l4 Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
