Re: Finding a v.90 modem for a G3 B/W
I have a G3 Tray Loader Bondi $30.00 (negotable) plus shipping, with the Modem. If your interested. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Paul pper...@gmail.com wrote: This G3 is for someone on an extremely limited budget, who's mainly using the computer for email. Otherwise, broadband would make a lot of sense. These days, the Internet is so full of ads and pointless little animations that my 256K DSL connection seems slow, even with Flashblock running on Firefox. I just discovered a USB-to-RS232 adapter, but I'll also look into the internal modem. You know, with the low price of G3's these days, it might be cheaper to simply buy another G3 that happens to have the modem. The one I'm working on was only $15, and it came equipped enough to at least run Tiger for tasks like email and word processing. Maybe I can also try wireless and see if I can sneak onto a network... I read that a large metal coffee can sticking out the window makes a good antenna... Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 15, 2009, at 11:01 PM, Paul wrote: I have a good US Robotics external V.90 modem that I'd like to be able to use with a G3 blue/white tower that doesn't have an internal modem. I've heard that USB external modems aren't too good, and I've heard that internal modems for this machine aren't easy/cheap to find. And as far as I know, despite the abundance of cheap PCI modems for PC's, there is no such thing for a Mac. Is there an adapter that converts some plug on the back of the G3 to a serial connection that can plug into the modem? And why is there no such thing as a PCI modem for a Mac? Why did Apple opt for a large collection of mutually incompatible internal modems? No access to broadband? Dial-up modem seems like the dark-ages. You might consider a tethering to a mobile phone with a faster connection. I previously used T-Mobile GPRS which was about 5x faster than dial-up for $19.95 per month unlimited. I tethered my phone via a USB cable I got on eBay for $5 shipped. I assume the companies with 3G Networks have something similar? If you can get DSL, ATT has the nationwide $10 per month plan that's hard to beat for broadband and it's about 15x faster than dial-up. I'm unhappy with my supposedly 8Mbps cable modem speed and can't wait for a fiber optic connection some day real soon now. As for dial-up modem, I'd strongly suggest looking for another way to connect and forget about dial-up modems. If you absolutely need a modem, get the internal. The part is Apple 805-2088-A. You can find them cheap enough. Ask on LEM-Swap. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Finding a v.90 modem for a G3 B/W
Does'nt have a Keyboard or Mouse, but It does start up. The Disk Drive works. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: I have a G3 Tray Loader Bondi $30.00 (negotable) plus shipping, with the Modem. If your interested. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Paul pper...@gmail.com wrote: This G3 is for someone on an extremely limited budget, who's mainly using the computer for email. Otherwise, broadband would make a lot of sense. These days, the Internet is so full of ads and pointless little animations that my 256K DSL connection seems slow, even with Flashblock running on Firefox. I just discovered a USB-to-RS232 adapter, but I'll also look into the internal modem. You know, with the low price of G3's these days, it might be cheaper to simply buy another G3 that happens to have the modem. The one I'm working on was only $15, and it came equipped enough to at least run Tiger for tasks like email and word processing. Maybe I can also try wireless and see if I can sneak onto a network... I read that a large metal coffee can sticking out the window makes a good antenna... Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 15, 2009, at 11:01 PM, Paul wrote: I have a good US Robotics external V.90 modem that I'd like to be able to use with a G3 blue/white tower that doesn't have an internal modem. I've heard that USB external modems aren't too good, and I've heard that internal modems for this machine aren't easy/cheap to find. And as far as I know, despite the abundance of cheap PCI modems for PC's, there is no such thing for a Mac. Is there an adapter that converts some plug on the back of the G3 to a serial connection that can plug into the modem? And why is there no such thing as a PCI modem for a Mac? Why did Apple opt for a large collection of mutually incompatible internal modems? No access to broadband? Dial-up modem seems like the dark-ages. You might consider a tethering to a mobile phone with a faster connection. I previously used T-Mobile GPRS which was about 5x faster than dial-up for $19.95 per month unlimited. I tethered my phone via a USB cable I got on eBay for $5 shipped. I assume the companies with 3G Networks have something similar? If you can get DSL, ATT has the nationwide $10 per month plan that's hard to beat for broadband and it's about 15x faster than dial-up. I'm unhappy with my supposedly 8Mbps cable modem speed and can't wait for a fiber optic connection some day real soon now. As for dial-up modem, I'd strongly suggest looking for another way to connect and forget about dial-up modems. If you absolutely need a modem, get the internal. The part is Apple 805-2088-A. You can find them cheap enough. Ask on LEM-Swap. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
Leave it on there as a way to throw people off and change the password. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Woody woodyl...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander MacLeod twocor...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 27, 2008 12:55 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plastics Care On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: I just got a monitor from Craig's list, for free. It's a 19 SGI, CRT. No, no not a Mac, but I'm using on my one of my Macs. What a beast... must be close to 50 pounds. Anyhow, some security conscious individual wrote the system root password on the front in black felt tip. Is there any way to remove this darned blemish or, at least fade it a bit? Thanks for any tips or advice! You may want to try a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser http://www.mrclean.com/en_US/products/eraser.shtml. They've handled everything I've thrown at them so far. Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he gets better soon, such a unique individual. Just needed to vent. I also have some Apple stock - groan. __ Perhaps of interest; http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11498tag=nl.e539 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari RSS vulnerability: pay heed!
Date: Thurs, Jan 15 2009 11:58 am From: Bruce Johnson On Jan 15, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I'm unsure whether that simply means it's running, or if Safari is selected as the default browser. Windows Safari 3.2.1 (525.27.1) is different from OS X Safari 3.2.1 (5525.27.1). In OS X Safari Preferences there is a selection for Default RSS Reader whereas in the Windows version there is no such selection. Then it simply means if Safari is being used it's vulnerable. So this suggests that if you are using a Mac, make sure to choose other than Safari for RSS. That is the message I am getting from this thread (which sprung me into action like Superman into my preferences. g -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Password change
On Jan 15, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Woody wrote: -Original Message- From: gda1...@aol.com Sent: Dec 14, 2008 8:24 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Password change I have a clamshell i book and I need to change the password and I have forgotten hows tgo do so: if I ever knew. Papa Bear If you know the password, go into Control Panel Accounts and change it. If you don't know the password, boot from your OS X installer CD and select Change Password from the Installer menu (it may say 'Change Administrator's Password'...it's been a long time since I saw that menu.) A sure fire way to not ever have to do this again is to NOT have the system boot automatically into your account, but have it make you log on. When you use the password more often, you don't forget it. It's also much more secure, especially for a laptop... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari RSS vulnerability: pay heed!
On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:08 AM, dorayme wrote: Date: Thurs, Jan 15 2009 11:58 am From: Bruce Johnson On Jan 15, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I'm unsure whether that simply means it's running, or if Safari is selected as the default browser. Windows Safari 3.2.1 (525.27.1) is different from OS X Safari 3.2.1 (5525.27.1). In OS X Safari Preferences there is a selection for Default RSS Reader whereas in the Windows version there is no such selection. Then it simply means if Safari is being used it's vulnerable. So this suggests that if you are using a Mac, make sure to choose other than Safari for RSS. That is the message I am getting from this thread (which sprung me into action like Superman into my preferences. g Yes, exactly. Note that this is simply precautionary. You would need to visit a specially crafted web page for this to attack you, which means you would most likely be lead there by some phishing email offering free money, Britney/Paris/insert Pop tart of the day nakeditity or stern warnings in broken english about how your email account is sending out spam and the new administrators in Zaire request that you send them your username and password and coincidentally they also represent a bank with 21 Millions US$ that they wish to smuggle out of the country and could you help them please for 10% :-) Also, since the person who found the vulnerability has not detailed what it is it's unlikely any exploits will be released until after Apple issues the patch, which the bad guys then reverse engineer to find out how to use it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 and Firefox 3.0.5
On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Tom wrote: Safari is faster but doesn't have the AdBlock plug-in that squelches most of the ads on webpages so effectively. I'd go back to Safari if it did. Ascii shall receive: http://fsbsoftware.com/index.html click on the SafariBlock link on the left. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I wonder if a current WMP for Mac would work with this or a similar plug in . That would be ironic, if WMP under OS X played AAC+ better than iTunes. Windows Media Player 9 is the latest, and predates AAC+. MS abandoned WMP years ago, and offer a free version of Flip4Mac in its place. http://tinyurl.com/8odbe2 and AAC+ is not on their list of supported audio codecs. -- Thanks Bruce, I checked the link and see what you are saying. But the plugin at ; http://www.orban.com/plugin/ ( suggested by Chris Barham ) says it will work in WMP 9. I will have to use a machine at the university to try it with OS X. Also of interest to me is that at the top of the list of AAC+ streams at; http://www.tuner2.com/ which Chris cites is Folk Alley which originates here! So I guess AAC+ is not as foreign around here as I had assumed. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 and Firefox 3.0.5
At 11:11 PM -0800 1/15/2009, Tom wrote: This combination of Firefox and OS-X crashes on me every day. It happens after Firefox has been in use for a few hours, often idle in the background. The sign of an oncoming crash is new webpages appearing with scrambled text or error messages. Sounds like a memory leak. What URLs are involved? Does it occur if you pull the flash plug-in? What other add-ons do you have installed? Have you tried the Firefox beta? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 and Firefox 3.0.5
At 8:15 AM -0700 1/16/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Tom wrote: Safari is faster but doesn't have the AdBlock plug-in that squelches most of the ads on webpages so effectively. I'd go back to Safari if it did. Ascii shall receive: http://fsbsoftware.com/index.html click on the SafariBlock link on the left. I've had some crash problems with SafariBlock 2.2 and 2.2r1. But 2.1 works VERY well. WRT performance... SafariBlock has two modes. Automatic uses a list of filters obtained form a 3rd party. Manual uses filters you create. On slower Macs, I've found Automatic really bogs Safari down, so I mostly use the Manual mode and add filters pertaining to only those sites with animated ads that irritate me. FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari Slow to open
At 5:21 PM -0500 1/15/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: OS 10.5.6 eMac memory? free HD space? My Safari browser has recently slowed way down whenever I try to open it. The blue filler takes 30 seconds or more to fill in the horizontal bar. This happens no matter what I try to open. I tried cleaning out the caches, but that didn't help. Is it slow if you just do something locally, like display your bookmarks? Is this URL slow to give an error? http://127.0.0.1/ Does it seem to take a long time to translate the domain names to ip addresses? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: stripped screw RAM cover iMac
At 4:22 PM -0800 1/15/09, glen posted: - Original Message From: Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com My new RAM arrived this morning to upgrade the refurbished iMac (aluminum) and when I turned it over, I immediately saw that the phillips head screw has been stripped. I even felt the burrs. On the off-chance there might be a way to remove it, I've tried various sizes using accepted practices but the thing won't budge. It feels like someone used a power screwdriver to tighten it (as if they feared the RAM modules falling out, duh!) So how do I remove the screw? Do I really want to go the way of using a drill to remove it? What size is the screw so I can replace it if I am able to remove it? Do I pack up the iMac and return it for another one? There are no local stores. The last time I had bunged Phillips head screw that would not release I used a hacksaw blade (sans the saw) and carefully filed a slightly larger slot in the screw. Another tool may also work. Then I used a small flat blade screw driver to remove the screw. Another good result of this method (if it works) is you do not have to replace the screw. You can reuse it provided you do not torque it tightly. AppleCare suggested going to my nearest Apple store, which isn't feasible given the distance and the weather. The service rep did manage to track down an authorised reseller/repair that wasn't listed on their site, and bridged the two of us together for a case number and repair arrangements. Still, that's a 90 minute drive, on some accident-prone roads so the rep made note I'd most likely not be taking it in for repair till spring. But... I had 2x2GB OWC RAM sticks in my hands so I called my neighbour down to see what we could come up with. After putting the iMac on its edge upside down, he was able to discover that the screw was actually turning but not backing out of the hole. (I'd been too timid that I was stripping the screw further because of my stroke weakness.) Using 2 Macintosh-certified paperclips, I was able to lift the perforated cover off to get to the RAM. High intensity light showed that whoever had started stripping the screw head before I bought the iMac refurbished had put the screw in off-centre and had stripped the threads. So the repair is probably more intensive than first thought because it looks like that entire module needs to be replaced in order to fix the stripped threads. I probably won't take it in for repair in the spring since I've got the maximum RAM installed and really have no reason to be opening the bay again. Unless(!) Last night I was burning a disc with similar files I'd burned before changing out the RAM. Using the same blanks that had previously burned at 8X, Toast was burning at a slow 1x/2x even though the setting was for 8x. I burned at second disc at 6x but Toast still burned 1x/2x. Is there any reason whatsoever changing RAM should have affected burning speeds? Should/Could I have done a PRAM reset on the restart? Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: stripped screw RAM cover iMac
On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Steve R wrote: I burned at second disc at 6x but Toast still burned 1x/2x. Is there any reason whatsoever changing RAM should have affected burning speeds? Should/Could I have done a PRAM reset on the restart? Sadly yes, bad ram could be doing that. Get memtest http://www.memtestosx.org/ and run it doing the long version of the test. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: stripped screw RAM cover iMac
On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Steve R wrote: I burned at second disc at 6x but Toast still burned 1x/2x. Is there any reason whatsoever changing RAM should have affected burning speeds? Should/Could I have done a PRAM reset on the restart? Sadly yes, bad ram could be doing that. Get memtest http://www.memtestosx.org/ and run it doing the long version of the test. Thought of something: did you check (in System Profiler) to make sure the system actually saw the memory? It might not be properly installed...iirc, from working on my iMac they were pretty tight. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: stripped screw RAM cover iMac
I've used vise-grips to get ahold of a screw head and loosened it that way. The worse thing that could happen is for the grips to slip off. If you have vise-grips that come to a point, like needle-nose pliers, they may work better if the screw head is not too accessible. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Steve R wrote: I burned at second disc at 6x but Toast still burned 1x/2x. Is there any reason whatsoever changing RAM should have affected burning speeds? Should/Could I have done a PRAM reset on the restart? Sadly yes, bad ram could be doing that. Get memtest http://www.memtestosx.org/ and run it doing the long version of the test. Thought of something: did you check (in System Profiler) to make sure the system actually saw the memory? It might not be properly installed...iirc, from working on my iMac they were pretty tight. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
This may be good fortune for Apple. Hear me out before you want to lynch-mob me. This situation actually may help Apple out by giving another person the chance to step up and become recognized before Jobs does retire. This probably will get Apple consumers and investors used to the Idea of another CEO before Jobs suddenly retires. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he gets better soon, such a unique individual. Just needed to vent. I also have some Apple stock - groan. __ Perhaps of interest; http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11498tag=nl.e539 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
Leave it on there as a way to throw people off and change the password. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Woody woodyl...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander MacLeod twocor...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 27, 2008 12:55 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plastics Care On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: I just got a monitor from Craig's list, for free. It's a 19 SGI, CRT. No, no not a Mac, but I'm using on my one of my Macs. What a beast... must be close to 50 pounds. Anyhow, some security conscious individual wrote the system root password on the front in black felt tip. Is there any way to remove this darned blemish or, at least fade it a bit? Thanks for any tips or advice! You may want to try a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser http://www.mrclean.com/en_US/products/eraser.shtml. They've handled everything I've thrown at them so far. Alex If you want a low cost, do it all, cleaner, try WD-40. It took scuff marks off my GigE. I have used it to remove Marker Pen from Plastic and Adhesive residue from Plastic. See:http://www.wd-40.com/ And for uses: http://www.wd-40.com/uses-tips/ Absolutely no harmful chemicals. No Carcinogens. Sold everywhere including Grocery stores and Auto stores. Also in many sizes from Pens and small spray cans to multi gallon cans. I have no connection to this product, just a satisfied user. HTH, ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
Better yet, get some Dupont Non-Lithium Silicon spray (Lowes) which is the same thing as WD40 w/o the messy lithium. It simply disipates but leaves a teflon coating to protect. It's great for cleaning monitors for $4.00. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Ernest L. Gunerius er...@verizon.net wrote: Leave it on there as a way to throw people off and change the password. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Woody woodyl...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander MacLeod twocor...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 27, 2008 12:55 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plastics Care On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: I just got a monitor from Craig's list, for free. It's a 19 SGI, CRT. No, no not a Mac, but I'm using on my one of my Macs. What a beast... must be close to 50 pounds. Anyhow, some security conscious individual wrote the system root password on the front in black felt tip. Is there any way to remove this darned blemish or, at least fade it a bit? Thanks for any tips or advice! You may want to try a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser http://www.mrclean.com/en_US/products/eraser.shtml. They've handled everything I've thrown at them so far. Alex If you want a low cost, do it all, cleaner, try WD-40. It took scuff marks off my GigE. I have used it to remove Marker Pen from Plastic and Adhesive residue from Plastic. See:http://www.wd-40.com/ And for uses: http://www.wd-40.com/uses-tips/ Absolutely no harmful chemicals. No Carcinogens. Sold everywhere including Grocery stores and Auto stores. Also in many sizes from Pens and small spray cans to multi gallon cans. I have no connection to this product, just a satisfied user. HTH, ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need advice on hard disk space on G4
You may need to move the files in that partition to a larger partition, then increase the size of that partition and move the files back if that is possible. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: I may be wrong, but what I was hearing is 'My system is complaining/ won't run right/ is having problems' It's down to 3GB of free space' HELP That is NOT a Number of HDs available problem!, it's a Space used on the boot HD/partition problem. Curable by increasing space available, or reducing space used. Adding HDs, does nothing to cure the problem, it does give one alternatives as to HOW to proceed with the cure though. Chuck D. On Jan 15, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Mike Baker wrote: Depending on how many hard drives you have in it already, you can at least two EIDE hard drives internally fairly easily. One would go on top of the existing hard drive, and one would go towards the front of the case. The power and other cables for the two new hard drives already exist in the case. If you wanted to, you could replace the optical drive with another hard drive and the Zip drive with another hard drive, albeit a 2.5 hard drive due to the smaller space. Instructional videos are available at Other World Computing. Keep in mind that without installing a new hard drive controller card in a PCI slot, the maximum size of the hard drives would be 128 GB. I have a 20 GB hard drive in my 450, and a 160 GB external hard drive connected to the 450 via Firewire. Once I get two internal hard drives for the 450, I will disconnect the 160 GB hard drive and move it to another computer. --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: From: Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net Subject: Re: Need advice on hard disk space on G4 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 4:57 PM On Jan 15, 2009, at 2:13 PM, icansw...@aol.com wrote: I just upgraded my G4 450mhz to Tiger. Now I'm running out of hard disk space.I only have 3GB left. I'm a Graphic Designer with Adobe programs. Any suggestions on how to get more disk space? Maybe internal or external drive or some other type of storage? Thanks in advance paula Ouch Immediately if not sooner, look over the contents of 'Trash', remove the 'goodies' that you really don't want to disappear, and Empty Trash. Hopefully you still have enough 'headroom' for the 'Empty Trash' program to run successfully. That should retrieve a significant bit of space, enough to give you time to cure your HD deficit. If 'Empty Trash' won't run, STOP trying to run that system till you get an External Firewire drive that you can boot from. HTH, Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 and Firefox 3.0.5
Another blocker add-on for Firefox is Flashblock, which puts up a little arrow that you have the choice of clicking if you want to see the Flash animation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Finding a v.90 modem for a G3 B/W
I already have an old 15 iMac with a built-in modem I could use, but the tower allows my friend to continue using her 17 screen. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: stripped screw RAM cover iMac
On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Steve R wrote: At 4:22 PM -0800 1/15/09, glen posted: AppleCare suggested going to my nearest Apple store, which isn't feasible given the distance and the weather. The service rep did manage to track down an authorised reseller/repair that wasn't listed on their site, and bridged the two of us together for a case number and repair arrangements. Still, that's a 90 minute drive, on some accident-prone roads so the rep made note I'd most likely not be taking it in for repair till spring. Could you mail it in? The US Postal Service: rain, sleet, snow banks, sub 0 weather ... poor guys and gals. I would ask for a replacement. ... Unless(!) Last night I was burning a disc with similar files I'd burned before changing out the RAM. Using the same blanks that had previously burned at 8X, Toast was burning at a slow 1x/2x even though the setting was for 8x. I burned at second disc at 6x but Toast still burned 1x/2x. Is there any reason whatsoever changing RAM should have affected burning speeds? Should/Could I have done a PRAM reset on the restart? I had bad RAM influence my QS 10.5 system to suggest my DVD RW drive was bad ... it works fine in another machine, and probably would do the same in the QS now that I removed the bad RAM. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Suggested online Mac retailers
Someone earlier in a message had suggested an online Mac retailer but I can't find that email. What online Mac retailers does everyone recommend? I don't mean the Apple stores, but ones that cater to older Mac computers. I am aware of Other World Computing and retailer references on Low End Mac. Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Suggested online Mac retailers
On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Mike Baker wrote: Someone earlier in a message had suggested an online Mac retailer but I can't find that email. What online Mac retailers does everyone recommend? I don't mean the Apple stores, but ones that cater to older Mac computers. I am aware of Other World Computing and retailer references on Low End Mac. Thanks. Even better than a retailer, our own Swap list: http://groups.google.com/group/lemswap Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
List-Id: g3-5-list.googlegroups.com Better yet, get some Dupont Non-Lithium Silicon spray (Lowes) which is the same thing as WD40 w/o the messy lithium. It simply disipates but leaves a teflon coating to protect. It's great for cleaning monitors for $4.00. That's odd. I have never noticed any messy lithium in WD-40. The WD-40 just evaporated from my GigE with no residue. And I have used it for years , since 1953, as a screw loosener and minor lubricator without any mess. Read: http://www.wd-40.com/faqs/#q7 The can says: Contains Petroleum Distillates' ErnieG On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Ernest L. Gunerius er...@verizon.net wrote: Leave it on there as a way to throw people off and change the password. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Woody woodyl...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander MacLeod twocor...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 27, 2008 12:55 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plastics Care On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: I just got a monitor from Craig's list, for free. It's a 19 SGI, CRT. No, no not a Mac, but I'm using on my one of my Macs. What a beast... must be close to 50 pounds. Anyhow, some security conscious individual wrote the system root password on the front in black felt tip. Is there any way to remove this darned blemish or, at least fade it a bit? Thanks for any tips or advice! You may want to try a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser http://www.mrclean.com/en_US/products/eraser.shtml. They've handled everything I've thrown at them so far. Alex If you want a low cost, do it all, cleaner, try WD-40. It took scuff marks off my GigE. I have used it to remove Marker Pen from Plastic and Adhesive residue from Plastic. See:http://www.wd-40.com/ And for uses: http://www.wd-40.com/uses-tips/ Absolutely no harmful chemicals. No Carcinogens. Sold everywhere including Grocery stores and Auto stores. Also in many sizes from Pens and small spray cans to multi gallon cans. I have no connection to this product, just a satisfied user. HTH, ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Printer sharing with mac os 10.4 server??
I have used printer sharing with tiger before but not with server. When i go to the printer and fax settings there is no sharing tab. How do I share my printer??-Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Printer sharing with mac os 10.4 server??
On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:27 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: I have used printer sharing with tiger before but not with server. When i go to the printer and fax settings there is no sharing tab. How do I share my printer?? Try System PreferencesSharing perhaps? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Printer sharing with mac os 10.4 server??
Thanks but i already tried that. nothing-Jonas On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:27 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: I have used printer sharing with tiger before but not with server. When i go to the printer and fax settings there is no sharing tab. How do I share my printer?? Try System PreferencesSharing perhaps? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 and Firefox 3.0.5
Date: Thurs, Jan 15 2009 11:11 pm From: Tom This combination of Firefox and OS-X crashes on me every day. It happens after Firefox has been in use for a few hours, Have you checked your HD via Disk Utility? Have you recently bought RAM or changed RAM or tested RAM thoroughly with a RAM checker? Have you dumped FF and re downloaded fresh and installed? Some thoughts for you. -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari Slow to open
On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:21 PM -0500 1/15/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: OS 10.5.6 eMac memory? free HD space? My Safari browser has recently slowed way down whenever I try to open it. The blue filler takes 30 seconds or more to fill in the horizontal bar. This happens no matter what I try to open. I tried cleaning out the caches, but that didn't help. Is it slow if you just do something locally, like display your bookmarks? NO, it moves quickly when I display my bookmarks. Is this URL slow to give an error? http://127.0.0.1/ When I click on the above URL I get the following note- Safari can't connect to this service. Does it seem to take a long time to translate the domain names to ip addresses? Yes Wilton - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari RSS vulnerability: pay heed!
Greetings ( + )!( + ) A work around for this problem can be found at: http://brian.mastenbrook.net/display/27 A secondary benefit is that the work-around requires you to down-load a copy of RCDefaultApp RCDefaultApp allows you tochoose which application that you want to use as your default application. i.e. if you have Safari, Seamonky, FireFox and other browsers on your platform it gives you a very easy way to choose which one you want to use as your default. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca 95124 ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø On Jan 16, 7:10 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:08 AM, dorayme wrote: Date: Thurs, Jan 15 2009 11:58 am From: Bruce Johnson On Jan 15, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I'm unsure whether that simply means it's running, or if Safari is selected as the default browser. Windows Safari 3.2.1 (525.27.1) is different from OS X Safari 3.2.1 (5525.27.1). In OS X Safari Preferences there is a selection for Default RSS Reader whereas in the Windows version there is no such selection. Then it simply means if Safari is being used it's vulnerable. So this suggests that if you are using a Mac, make sure to choose other than Safari for RSS. That is the message I am getting from this thread (which sprung me into action like Superman into my preferences. g Yes, exactly. Note that this is simply precautionary. You would need to visit a specially crafted web page for this to attack you, which means you would most likely be lead there by some phishing email offering free money, Britney/Paris/insert Pop tart of the day nakeditity or stern warnings in broken english about how your email account is sending out spam and the new administrators in Zaire request that you send them your username and password and coincidentally they also represent a bank with 21 Millions US$ that they wish to smuggle out of the country and could you help them please for 10% :-) Also, since the person who found the vulnerability has not detailed what it is it's unlikely any exploits will be released until after Apple issues the patch, which the bad guys then reverse engineer to find out how to use it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Admin password
-Original Message- From: George Hozendorf ghoze...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 20, 2008 12:15 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Admin password I plugged in my external DVD drive, but when I opened Tiger it told me I couldn't install it on the iMac, which is currently running 10.3. I opened Xcode Tools to get to Reset Password, but you can't open it without booting from the DVD or starting the installer. Hozey On Apr 19, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Charles Davis wrote: On Apr 19, 2008, at 9:42 PM, George Hozendorf wrote: On Apr 19, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Al Poulin wrote: On Apr 19, 2008, at 3:26 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 1 of 1 == Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 11:26 am From: George Hozendorf I'm working on an iMac that has an admin. account, but I don't have access to the name or password for the account, nor do I have an install disc that will work on it. Is there anyway to delete this admin. account? Most likely, you need access to that admin account, not simply to delete it. Every Mac must have an admin account, whether that account doubles as a user account or not. Else, you cannot run most software installers and deal with some system preferences. What other accounts are on this machine? Any other admin account? It is possible to have more than one. What iMac model, specifically? For this, it may help to check the Mac Profiles at lowendmac.com . What installer disks do you have in hand? Colored grey (Mac model specific) or black (retail)? Al Poulin There is a guest account, which of course isn't admin. and of course I can't modify it or add an account without the user name and password for the admin. account. The only discs I have are the grey one for my Mini, 10.4 and 10.5. They are all DVDs, thus won't work. I had this problem before and someone on the list was kind enough to provide a workaround, but I can't fine the eMail. Any chance of being able to 'beg, borrow, or steal' a DVD capable drive to temporarily mount in the system??? Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: That's odd. I have never noticed any messy lithium in WD-40. The WD-40 just evaporated from my GigE with no residue. And I have used it for years , since 1953, as a screw loosener and minor lubricator without any mess. According to the MSDS, WD-40 is a kerosene-like mixture of light hydrocarbons called Stoddard Solvent, propellant (which used to be isopropane but now is CO2) and light mineral oil (like 3-in-One). If not wiped off, there should have been a film of oil left. No lithium. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need advice on hard disk space on G4
On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Kyle Parish wrote: You may need to move the files in that partition to a larger partition, then increase the size of that partition and move the files back if that is possible. Yup!!! The SIMPLE way, is to clone to a larger partition [Usually on another HD -- In the same 'hardware', or an external drive.] CCC or SuperDuper!, either will do the trick. Chuck D. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: I may be wrong, but what I was hearing is 'My system is complaining/ won't run right/ is having problems' It's down to 3GB of free space' HELP That is NOT a Number of HDs available problem!, it's a Space used on the boot HD/partition problem. Curable by increasing space available, or reducing space used. Adding HDs, does nothing to cure the problem, it does give one alternatives as to HOW to proceed with the cure though. Chuck D. On Jan 15, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Mike Baker wrote: Depending on how many hard drives you have in it already, you can at least two EIDE hard drives internally fairly easily. One would go on top of the existing hard drive, and one would go towards the front of the case. The power and other cables for the two new hard drives already exist in the case. If you wanted to, you could replace the optical drive with another hard drive and the Zip drive with another hard drive, albeit a 2.5 hard drive due to the smaller space. Instructional videos are available at Other World Computing. Keep in mind that without installing a new hard drive controller card in a PCI slot, the maximum size of the hard drives would be 128 GB. I have a 20 GB hard drive in my 450, and a 160 GB external hard drive connected to the 450 via Firewire. Once I get two internal hard drives for the 450, I will disconnect the 160 GB hard drive and move it to another computer. --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: From: Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net Subject: Re: Need advice on hard disk space on G4 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 4:57 PM On Jan 15, 2009, at 2:13 PM, icansw...@aol.com wrote: I just upgraded my G4 450mhz to Tiger. Now I'm running out of hard disk space.I only have 3GB left. I'm a Graphic Designer with Adobe programs. Any suggestions on how to get more disk space? Maybe internal or external drive or some other type of storage? Thanks in advance paula Ouch Immediately if not sooner, look over the contents of 'Trash', remove the 'goodies' that you really don't want to disappear, and Empty Trash. Hopefully you still have enough 'headroom' for the 'Empty Trash' program to run successfully. That should retrieve a significant bit of space, enough to give you time to cure your HD deficit. If 'Empty Trash' won't run, STOP trying to run that system till you get an External Firewire drive that you can boot from. HTH, Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Printer sharing with mac os 10.4 server??
On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:27 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: I have used printer sharing with tiger before but not with server. When i go to the printer and fax settings there is no sharing tab. How do I share my printer??-Jonas It is like called 'print server' not 'printer sharing' in the documentation, if all else fails, the printer service in OSX server (CUPS) is the same as in OS X, and can be accessed at http://localhost:631 to set up print queues. Using the web interface requires an active root account; I do not know if OS X Server has an explicitly active root account. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari Slow to open
On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: Is this URL slow to give an error? http://127.0.0.1/ When I click on the above URL I get the following note- Safari can't connect to this service. Go into Sharing and turn on Web Sharing. Again, Dan probably did this so long ago he's forgotten it's not normally on :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Printer sharing with mac os 10.4 server??
So how can I just share the printer on my private network?-Jonas On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:27 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: I have used printer sharing with tiger before but not with server. When i go to the printer and fax settings there is no sharing tab. How do I share my printer??-Jonas It is like called 'print server' not 'printer sharing' in the documentation, if all else fails, the printer service in OSX server (CUPS) is the same as in OS X, and can be accessed at http://localhost:631 to set up print queues. Using the web interface requires an active root account; I do not know if OS X Server has an explicitly active root account. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius er...@verizon.net wrote: Leave it on there as a way to throw people off and change the password. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Woody woodyl...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander MacLeod twocor...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 27, 2008 12:55 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plastics Care On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: I just got a monitor from Craig's list, for free. It's a 19 SGI, CRT. No, no not a Mac, but I'm using on my one of my Macs. What a beast... must be close to 50 pounds. Anyhow, some security conscious individual wrote the system root password on the front in black felt tip. Is there any way to remove this darned blemish or, at least fade it a bit? Thanks for any tips or advice! You may want to try a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser http://www.mrclean.com/en_US/products/eraser.shtml. They've handled everything I've thrown at them so far. Alex If you want a low cost, do it all, cleaner, try WD-40. It took scuff marks off my GigE. I have used it to remove Marker Pen from Plastic and Adhesive residue from Plastic. See:http://www.wd-40.com/ And for uses: http://www.wd-40.com/uses-tips/ Absolutely no harmful chemicals. No Carcinogens. __ First used to protect the skin of Atlas misslies? Cool ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd-40 Article says the residue can attract dust. I once had an impoverished friend who used it on his Royal Enfield motorcycle and his elbow as linement! I have also known some who used it as hand cleaner. But skin contact is discouraged by the maker. I prefer to start with isopropyl alcohol to clean computers but have used WD-40 to clean electrical contacts in a pinch. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari Slow to open
At 5:15 PM -0700 1/16/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: Is this URL slow to give an error? http://127.0.0.1/ When I click on the above URL I get the following note- Safari can't connect to this service. Go into Sharing and turn on Web Sharing. Again, Dan probably did this so long ago he's forgotten it's not normally on :-) Actually, I wanted that error. It's the speed at which it comes up that counts. If your dns cache is foo, it can take up to a minute. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Finding a v.90 modem for a G3 B/W
Hi Paul, I have an internal modem for a BW G3. Send me your zip and I'll give you a price including shipping. Regards Wm. in Ohio --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Paul pper...@gmail.com wrote: From: Paul pper...@gmail.com Subject: Finding a v.90 modem for a G3 B/W To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:01 AM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: That's odd. I have never noticed any messy lithium in WD-40. The WD-40 just evaporated from my GigE with no residue. And I have used it for years , since 1953, as a screw loosener and minor lubricator without any mess. According to the MSDS, WD-40 is a kerosene-like mixture of light hydrocarbons called Stoddard Solvent, propellant (which used to be isopropane but now is CO2) and light mineral oil (like 3-in-One). If not wiped off, there should have been a film of oil left. No lithium. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Thanks for the info and reference. For the GigE I sprayed WD-40 on a paper towel and rubbed the smudge away. Then used the dry area of the towel to wipe the area for a finish clean-up. There were many large black areas on the Apple side of the case. The oil residue, if any is left, is not noticeable. ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
You are exactly right - it is the same problem the wonderful beach band known as the Beach Boys has had by failing to allow new, younger members to gradually overtake the band, replacing the older members and continuing with the band; sure the sound will change a little, but by and large, it will live on, just as Apple will change a little with new leadership. We hope, with new leadership, they will stop shooting their foot over and over again, but that will be told in time. It is timely that number 44 is about to lead us, thank God we move on to new leadership and survive; change is good! JML --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Steve Jobs Oh My To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:46 AM This may be good fortune for Apple. Hear me out before you want to lynch-mob me. This situation actually may help Apple out by giving another person the chance to step up and become recognized before Jobs does retire. This probably will get Apple consumers and investors used to the Idea of another CEO before Jobs suddenly retires. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he gets better soon, such a unique individual. Just needed to vent. I also have some Apple stock - groan. __ Perhaps of interest; http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11498tag=nl.e539 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius er...@verizon.net wrote: Leave it on there as a way to throw people off and change the password. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Woody woodyl...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander MacLeod twocor...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 27, 2008 12:55 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plastics Care On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: I just got a monitor from Craig's list, for free. It's a 19 SGI, CRT. No, no not a Mac, but I'm using on my one of my Macs. What a beast... must be close to 50 pounds. Anyhow, some security conscious individual wrote the system root password on the front in black felt tip. Is there any way to remove this darned blemish or, at least fade it a bit? Thanks for any tips or advice! You may want to try a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser http://www.mrclean.com/en_US/products/eraser.shtml. They've handled everything I've thrown at them so far. Alex If you want a low cost, do it all, cleaner, try WD-40. It took scuff marks off my GigE. I have used it to remove Marker Pen from Plastic and Adhesive residue from Plastic. See:http://www.wd-40.com/ And for uses: http://www.wd-40.com/uses-tips/ Absolutely no harmful chemicals. No Carcinogens. __ First used to protect the skin of Atlas misslies? Cool ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd-40 Article says the residue can attract dust. I once had an impoverished friend who used it on his Royal Enfield motorcycle and his elbow as linement! I have also known some who used it as hand cleaner. But skin contact is discouraged by the maker. I prefer to start with isopropyl alcohol to clean computers but have used WD-40 to clean electrical contacts in a pinch. As I said in another post I wiped the excess on the GigE and have never noticed any dust. The WD-40.com /uses-tips/ web page points to 2000 uses. I have seen it used to dry wet Spark Plug wires and in a pinch it can be sprayed around vacuum lines in the Auto engine Compartment to check for leaks. I have used it to remove Roofing Compound from hands and tools. ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Which video card should I buy for my smurf G3 for screen rotation?
Well, after searching, and reading, and searching, and reading I felt it was safe to ask this one as I have found no answer to my specific question I picked up an old 350mhz BW (running 10.4) to run out in my garage, basically as a glorified MP3 player and web browser. I have it sitting under my workbench with the monitor on top. I know on my mini, and my G5 tower I can rotate my screen, which was an option I pretty much found useless. If I could rotate the screen 180 degrees out on the G3 I could free up some workbench space and mount the monitor upside down under one of the cabinets. From what I've seen and read, the lack of the option to rotate in the System Preferences is due in part to my video card (currently the stock ATI Rage 128 16mb). I know that the Radeons will work in the G3, but will they allow me to rotate the screen? I just don't want to shell out the $$ on an upgrade they wouldn't really give me what I am looking for. (Let's face it, for what I'm doing with it, the old Rage 128 is fine graphics wise. I just want to rotate the screen as cost effectively as possible) So anybody out there get screen rotation working on any of these old gals? If so I'd love to hear how you did it! Thanks, Greg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which video card should I buy for my smurf G3 for screen rotation?
On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:08 PM, whalerboy wrote: So anybody out there get screen rotation working on any of these old gals? Yes, most Radeon will allow rotation depending upon the OS. I don't think rotation was available in MacOS 9.x. On early OS X versions there was an ATI utility called ATI Displays 4.5.7 that had the rotate option within. In later versions of OS X (Tiger for certain, perhaps Panther also?), the rotate function was available within the System PreferencesDisplays preference pane if you had a Radeon card installed. I normally was using a little nicer Radeon card, a flashed PC Radeon 9100 that was the equivalent of a PCI Mac Radeon 8500. I believe the cheaper Radeon 7000 also had this rotation function, but I rarely used it. If you're using OS X and get a Radeon card, you can enable Quartz Extreme with PCI Extreme 3.1 available at MacUpdate. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
None the less the Dupont teflon disipates in seconds and there is no residue, plus it works great. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius er...@verizon.net wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius er...@verizon.net wrote: Leave it on there as a way to throw people off and change the password. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Woody woodyl...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander MacLeod twocor...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 27, 2008 12:55 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plastics Care On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: I just got a monitor from Craig's list, for free. It's a 19 SGI, CRT. No, no not a Mac, but I'm using on my one of my Macs. What a beast... must be close to 50 pounds. Anyhow, some security conscious individual wrote the system root password on the front in black felt tip. Is there any way to remove this darned blemish or, at least fade it a bit? Thanks for any tips or advice! You may want to try a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser http://www.mrclean.com/en_US/products/eraser.shtml. They've handled everything I've thrown at them so far. Alex If you want a low cost, do it all, cleaner, try WD-40. It took scuff marks off my GigE. I have used it to remove Marker Pen from Plastic and Adhesive residue from Plastic. See:http://www.wd-40.com/ And for uses: http://www.wd-40.com/uses-tips/ Absolutely no harmful chemicals. No Carcinogens. __ First used to protect the skin of Atlas misslies? Cool ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd-40 Article says the residue can attract dust. I once had an impoverished friend who used it on his Royal Enfield motorcycle and his elbow as linement! I have also known some who used it as hand cleaner. But skin contact is discouraged by the maker. I prefer to start with isopropyl alcohol to clean computers but have used WD-40 to clean electrical contacts in a pinch. As I said in another post I wiped the excess on the GigE and have never noticed any dust. The WD-40.com /uses-tips/ web page points to 2000 uses. I have seen it used to dry wet Spark Plug wires and in a pinch it can be sprayed around vacuum lines in the Auto engine Compartment to check for leaks. I have used it to remove Roofing Compound from hands and tools. ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Kernel Panic on Cube
Help! I've always admired the aesthetic design of the Cube, which came out right after I bought my first Sawtooth (figures). I've watched the prices for years, anticipating the day when it would fall below the You paid how much? threshold. Having arranged a swap, I've got my Cube, nicely upgraded with a GeForce 6200 256 Mb video card. I suspect this to be the source of my trouble. The thing will run OS 9, but KPs when booted from any OS X installer disc (I've tried several different versions). I see Tiger as the best OS for this machine, but my efforts to install it have yet to bear fruit. I tried target mode from the Sawtooth, and the installer ran fine, but KP again on reboot. Just to see, I tried a boot from my LaCie Quadra (where do they find these names?), which contains the back-up from my MacBookPro (10.5.6). Boots and runs, although not in a usable manner with a 450 MHz processor (1.5 GB RAM). Is video handled that much differently in Leopard, compared to Tiger, to make the difference? I can't help but suspect the video card to be the culprit, having had similar experience with a flashed PC card that I got on eBay for my Sawtooth. My only other idea would be to install Tiger to the Quadra, boot from that, and clone to the Cube, but that seems a little silly... Thanx for your ideas/suggestions, V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which video card should I buy for my smurf G3 for screen rotation?
whalerboy wrote: Well, after searching, and reading, and searching, and reading I felt it was safe to ask this one as I have found no answer to my specific question I picked up an old 350mhz BW (running 10.4) to run out in my garage, basically as a glorified MP3 player and web browser. I have it sitting under my workbench with the monitor on top. I know on my mini, and my G5 tower I can rotate my screen, which was an option I pretty much found useless. If I could rotate the screen 180 degrees out on the G3 I could free up some workbench space and mount the monitor upside down under one of the cabinets. If this is an LCD monitor you could get a mounting bracket to attach it in the normal configuration off the bench. From what I've seen and read, the lack of the option to rotate in the System Preferences is due in part to my video card (currently the stock ATI Rage 128 16mb). I know that the Radeons will work in the G3, but will they allow me to rotate the screen? I just don't want to shell out the $$ on an upgrade they wouldn't really give me what I am looking for. (Let's face it, for what I'm doing with it, the old Rage 128 is fine graphics wise. I just want to rotate the screen as cost effectively as possible) So anybody out there get screen rotation working on any of these old gals? If so I'd love to hear how you did it! My Radeon 9200 will rotate the screen. My Radeon 7000 won't. I'm pretty sure the Radeon 7500 will (it's not installed at the moment). In each case the board was installed in a G4 tower running OS 10.4.11 and has the ATI software installed. The Apple Display Preferences didn't support screen rotation but the ATI software has what they call VersaVision which does. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 and Firefox 3.0.5
--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 and Firefox 3.0.5 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 11:14 AM On Jan 14, 2009, at 11:18 AM, PETE wrote: I'm using the above mentioned software on my Quicksilver. Of late I've noticed a very annoying development. While browsing, the cursor turns into a multi-colored circle that keeps turning round and round and...,infact during one of these episodes I got out bidded on ebay. What's causing this hiccup and how can I fix it? By the way my Mac OS 10.3.9 on my other computer is doing the same thing. TIA. That is the 'spinning pinwheel of doom'; and it means that OS X is telling you something is using up system resources, CPU or RAM. 99% of the time when this happens in web browsers it's the %...@#$# flash plugins, mostly ads. Look up Adblock https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 If it's both systems, with different browsers, it could be your ISP or the web site you're hitting. Come to think about it, Verizon did send me an email in November telling me that I'd be seeing more ads and this would be an improvement in the service I'm getting from them! Anyhow I installed Adblock and so far so good. I'll keep you listers posted if anything changes. Thanks. Pete. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Suggested online Mac retailers
Here are some links to used Macintosh computers'. http://www.powermax.com/mac_trade_in?utm_source=Backbeat%2BMediautm_medium=web%2Badutm_content=trade%2Binutm_campaign=trade%2Bin http://www.macworld.com/ http://lowendmac.com/dealers/index.shtml http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40_trksid=m38.l1313_nkw=Macintosh_sacat=See-All-Categories http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Used-Macs-c-253_53.html?gclid=CNKUypT7lJgCFRBbagodAzaamA http://www.macattic.com/ On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Mike Baker wrote: Someone earlier in a message had suggested an online Mac retailer but I can't find that email. What online Mac retailers does everyone recommend? I don't mean the Apple stores, but ones that cater to older Mac computers. I am aware of Other World Computing and retailer references on Low End Mac. Thanks. Even better than a retailer, our own Swap list: http://groups.google.com/group/lemswap Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
Okay... here's what I've done so far. I ran memtest in single user mode, no problems found. I reran it on a regular restart, no problems found. I used the Hardware Test from the Restore DVD, no problems found. Internal DVD burner accepts 8x burn in preferences but still refuses to burn faster than 1x/2x with both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility. Hooked up Firewire DVD burner... burns discs (same brand/spool) at 8x and even 12x and 16x in both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility. Retried internal burner and nothing changed from the 1x/2x maximum actual burn. Does any of this disprove bad RAM or prove ??? It's a refurbished machine, 9 days with me. I burned maybe 10 DVDs prior to changing the RAM, all at 8x. I noticed the problem after upgrading from the 2x1GB sticks to 2x2GB RAM chips from OWC, using their branded RAM. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/6400DDR2S4MP/ Tomorrow I'm going to clone the drive and reinstall the OS plus Toast to see if I get the same results on the internal drive but if I don't have to because someone sees a hint all the more better. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Suggested online Mac retailers
Someone earlier in a message had suggested an online Mac retailer but I can't find that email. What online Mac retailers does everyone recommend? I don't mean the Apple stores, but ones that cater to older Mac computers. I am aware of Other World Computing and retailer references on Low End Mac. Thanks. If you anywhere close to Eugene Oregon, Next Step Recycling has a thrift store with lots of older macs. Right now any G4 tower less than 500Mhz is $100. They have too many. I don't think they do mail order. It is a regular stop for me. Paxton -- Paxton Hoag Astoria, OR USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Suggested online Mac retailers
On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Paxton wrote: Right now any G4 tower less than 500Mhz is $100. They have too many. The reason they have too many is the price is too high. I saw G4 Towers going for $30-35 last year at a local university auction, and the auction produced true prices in my estimation since there were multiple bidders for each G4. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
Part of the problem is that way too many people associate everything about Apple (from Day 1 of the company) with Steve Jobs. They don't give credit to others who have been part of all that is Apple, preferring to think its all coming from the mind of Steve Jobs. Who invented the various iPods? In the eyes of the masses Steve Jobs did. iMac? Again, they feel it was Steve Jobs iBook? Why, Steve Jobs of course! MacBook/MacBook Pro? Steve Jobs did! iPhone? That was Steve Jobs again! I know of people who, when I say Steve Wozniak (of even just Woz) when referring to my older Apples (][e's and a //c) say Who? and its only when I say he and Steve Jobs started Apple that they know what I am talking about. They admit that they only associate Steve Jobs with Apple because thats all we hear about these days. The news the other night mentioned he was a founder of Apple Computer and the photo they showed was not the familiar one of him and Woz with the original Apple but one of just Steve Jobs with an early computer. This will just further the belief for some people that Steve Jobs = Apple On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: You are exactly right - it is the same problem the wonderful beach band known as the Beach Boys has had by failing to allow new, younger members to gradually overtake the band, replacing the older members and continuing with the band; sure the sound will change a little, but by and large, it will live on, just as Apple will change a little with new leadership. We hope, with new leadership, they will stop shooting their foot over and over again, but that will be told in time. It is timely that number 44 is about to lead us, thank God we move on to new leadership and survive; change is good! JML --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Steve Jobs Oh My To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:46 AM This may be good fortune for Apple. Hear me out before you want to lynch-mob me. This situation actually may help Apple out by giving another person the chance to step up and become recognized before Jobs does retire. This probably will get Apple consumers and investors used to the Idea of another CEO before Jobs suddenly retires. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he gets better soon, such a unique individual. Just needed to vent. I also have some Apple stock - groan. __ Perhaps of interest; http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11498tag=nl.e539 -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
