date:20091004


On Oct 4, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Nestamicky wrote:

 PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801 Ver. 4D28

I've got a feeling this is a firmware issue. You'd need a Windows PC  
to upgrade the firmware. The problem is that this DVD drive is a  
relabeled BenQ drive, and it has the OEM (first version) of the  
Philips firmware, so it's likely at least a couple years prior  
firmware to the latest available firmware, which as far as I can tell  
is the firmware for the BenQ model DW1650 version BCIC. There were  
many upgrades for the BenQ version to this unit, and most people  
report this is a good, solid performer, so if possible, I'd try to  
cross-flash to the BenQ firmware, which seems to be a common thing to  
do.

Here are some links:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/philips-dvd8801-187767/
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/new-benq-dw1650-firmware-bcic-released-support-discussion-thread-191970/index10.html
 
 
http://www.firmwarehq.com/download_532-file_bcic.zip.html


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Minitower freezing at startup

I just overclocked my beige g3 with 400MHZ processor to a 433MHZ. I am
trying to install 9.2 but everytime i put in the disc it gets to the loading
screen and completely freezes. Not even the mouse moves. Help please!
-Jonas

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

On 04/10/09 2:03 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
I've got a feeling this is a firmware issue. You'd need a Windows PC
to upgrade the firmware. The problem is that this DVD drive is a
relabeled BenQ drive, and it has the OEM (first version) of the
Philips firmware, so it's likely at least a couple years prior
firmware to the latest available firmware, which as far as I can tell
is the firmware for the BenQ model DW1650 version BCIC. There were
many upgrades for the BenQ version to this unit, and most people
report this is a good, solid performer, so if possible, I'd try to
cross-flash to the BenQ firmware, which seems to be a common thing to
do.

Here are some links:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/philips-dvd8801-187767/
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/new-benq-dw1650-firmware-bcic-released-support-discussion-thread-191970/index10.html

http://www.firmwarehq.com/download_532-file_bcic.zip.html

Kris, mighty Kris. What would this group be like without great people
like yourself. Thanks so much. I will follow these links. I do have a
windows machine here, that I've been slowly retiring as I compute on mac
daily. This is just one of the hiccups that you've greatly helped me
with. I will report back. Meanwhile, thanks so much. OK, let me get on
my knees now and do some dirty work.
Thanks a lot Kris!

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Minitower freezing at startup

2009-10-04 Thread Mac User #330250

--  Original message  --
Subject: Minitower freezing at startup
Date:Sonntag 04 Oktober 2009N
From:Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com

 I just overclocked my beige g3 with 400MHZ processor to a 433MHZ. I am
 trying to install 9.2 but everytime i put in the disc it gets to the
  loading screen and completely freezes. Not even the mouse moves. Help
  please! -Jonas

Did it work before?
[YES] It's propably the overclocking that broke it.
[NO] Try a different installation method. Best would be to install it on 
another G3 and transfer the HDD back to your G3. See if it boots then.

Cheers,
Andreas.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Minitower freezing at startup


On Oct 4, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 I just overclocked my beige g3 with 400MHZ processor to a 433MHZ. I  
 am trying to install 9.2 but everytime i put in the disc it gets to  
 the loading screen and completely freezes. Not even the mouse moves.  
 Help please!

Overclock could be too high, you might try the normal 400 MHz to begin  
with. You can't generally overclock the System bus to anything greater  
than the stock 66 MHz unless your motherboard had the faster Grackle  
chip, which normally only came on the early 233 MHz motherboards. You  
might also have a RAM issue, bad RAM or poorly seated RAM can cause  
freezes. Reseating everything rarely hurts and often helps.

9.2 isn't the best MacOS for the Beige. The Beige's personality cards  
used some special extensions that only worked up to OS 9.1, so 9.1 was  
the final version of MacOS that supported the Beige hardware. You  
can use 9.2.2, but you need to replace several of the extensions with  
older versions from 9.1 or earlier.

As I remember, some that are necessary to replace are (final working  
versions listed):

Sound Control Panel (???)
ATI Graphics Accelerator v. 5.2.4
ATI Resource Manager v. 2.7.3


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Minitower freezing at startup

I turned the extentions off and it booted! I am going to try to find an
older 9 installer. I have run 9.2 on several beiges with no problems
though...

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:


 On Oct 4, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

  I just overclocked my beige g3 with 400MHZ processor to a 433MHZ. I
  am trying to install 9.2 but everytime i put in the disc it gets to
  the loading screen and completely freezes. Not even the mouse moves.
  Help please!

 Overclock could be too high, you might try the normal 400 MHz to begin
 with. You can't generally overclock the System bus to anything greater
 than the stock 66 MHz unless your motherboard had the faster Grackle
 chip, which normally only came on the early 233 MHz motherboards. You
 might also have a RAM issue, bad RAM or poorly seated RAM can cause
 freezes. Reseating everything rarely hurts and often helps.

 9.2 isn't the best MacOS for the Beige. The Beige's personality cards
 used some special extensions that only worked up to OS 9.1, so 9.1 was
 the final version of MacOS that supported the Beige hardware. You
 can use 9.2.2, but you need to replace several of the extensions with
 older versions from 9.1 or earlier.

 As I remember, some that are necessary to replace are (final working
 versions listed):

 Sound Control Panel (???)
 ATI Graphics Accelerator v. 5.2.4
 ATI Resource Manager v. 2.7.3


 


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: dvd authoring

2009-10-04 Thread Nestamicky


On 04/10/09 2:33 PM, Nestamicky wrote:
 I will report back.
I'm sorry to say that after updating/cross flashing the firmware, I'm 
still stuck with the same problem. So, I went to console to see if I 
could tell what's going on, and found this:

Oct 4 15:32:24 suntanas-power-mac-g4-agp-graphics mDNSResponder: 7939: 
DNSServiceRegister(BENQ DVD DD DW1650 @ Suntana’s Power Mac G4 (AG... 
(581339632), _grillezvous._tcp., , 9385) failed: Bad Instance Name 
(-65540)

Anyone knows what this means? Is there a preferences I need to delete of 
the older firmware?

Thanks!


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: dvd authoring

2009-10-04 Thread Bill Connelly



On Oct 4, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Nestamicky wrote:


 On 04/10/09 2:33 PM, Nestamicky wrote:
 I will report back.
 I'm sorry to say that after updating/cross flashing the firmware, I'm
 still stuck with the same problem. So, I went to console to see if I
 could tell what's going on, and found this:

 Oct 4 15:32:24 suntanas-power-mac-g4-agp-graphics mDNSResponder: 7939:
 DNSServiceRegister(BENQ DVD DD DW1650 @ Suntana’s Power Mac G4 (AG...
 (581339632), _grillezvous._tcp., , 9385) failed: Bad Instance  
 Name
 (-65540)

 Anyone knows what this means? Is there a preferences I need to  
 delete of
 the older firmware?

 Thanks!



Did you try PRAM Reset?
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Minitower freezing at startup

I don't have an old installer of os 9. Is there any way to get this one to
work?
-Jonas

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.comwrote:

 I turned the extentions off and it booted! I am going to try to find an
 older 9 installer. I have run 9.2 on several beiges with no problems
 though...


 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:


 On Oct 4, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

  I just overclocked my beige g3 with 400MHZ processor to a 433MHZ. I
  am trying to install 9.2 but everytime i put in the disc it gets to
  the loading screen and completely freezes. Not even the mouse moves.
  Help please!

 Overclock could be too high, you might try the normal 400 MHz to begin
 with. You can't generally overclock the System bus to anything greater
 than the stock 66 MHz unless your motherboard had the faster Grackle
 chip, which normally only came on the early 233 MHz motherboards. You
 might also have a RAM issue, bad RAM or poorly seated RAM can cause
 freezes. Reseating everything rarely hurts and often helps.

 9.2 isn't the best MacOS for the Beige. The Beige's personality cards
 used some special extensions that only worked up to OS 9.1, so 9.1 was
 the final version of MacOS that supported the Beige hardware. You
 can use 9.2.2, but you need to replace several of the extensions with
 older versions from 9.1 or earlier.

 As I remember, some that are necessary to replace are (final working
 versions listed):

 Sound Control Panel (???)
 ATI Graphics Accelerator v. 5.2.4
 ATI Resource Manager v. 2.7.3


 



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: HD Issues


On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 At 8:07 PM -0500 9/27/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote:
OK, according to Apple techs I should be able to put an HD on the same
cable as my Super Drive.
I  the HD and it never shows up. I was told to set it Cable Select and
I did this. No Luck.
Ideas as to how to make this work?

 Verify that the SuperDrive is also using Cable Select.  If it is set
 to Master, then the HD must be Slave...


Thanks! It is set to Master so I had to set the HD to Slave.
I am thrilled to say that the USS Bozeman is up and running.

PSI thought the SuperDrive could read DVDs. Mine doesn't seem to
want to do that.



-- 
Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
to go forth and claim our place in outer space.
   - Capt. Henry Gloval


(\__/)
(='.'=)
()_()
Help Bunny Take Over The World!

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: dvd authoring

2009-10-04 Thread Nestamicky


On 04/10/09 4:10 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
 Did you try PRAM Reset?

I just tried, and no luck. It's been all day with this. And I'm upset, 
really upset. f...@#*!


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Minitower freezing at startup

I found an old installer and it freezes up to. I tried putting the old
jumperblock and processor in it and it still won't work. I have tried taking
out memory, hd, changing the personality card out. I am out of ideas and am
about ready to scrap the whole machine. Any ideas before I run it over with
my truck?
-Jonas

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.comwrote:

 I don't have an old installer of os 9. Is there any way to get this one to
 work?
 -Jonas


 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.comwrote:

 I turned the extentions off and it booted! I am going to try to find an
 older 9 installer. I have run 9.2 on several beiges with no problems
 though...


 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:


 On Oct 4, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

  I just overclocked my beige g3 with 400MHZ processor to a 433MHZ. I
  am trying to install 9.2 but everytime i put in the disc it gets to
  the loading screen and completely freezes. Not even the mouse moves.
  Help please!

 Overclock could be too high, you might try the normal 400 MHz to begin
 with. You can't generally overclock the System bus to anything greater
 than the stock 66 MHz unless your motherboard had the faster Grackle
 chip, which normally only came on the early 233 MHz motherboards. You
 might also have a RAM issue, bad RAM or poorly seated RAM can cause
 freezes. Reseating everything rarely hurts and often helps.

 9.2 isn't the best MacOS for the Beige. The Beige's personality cards
 used some special extensions that only worked up to OS 9.1, so 9.1 was
 the final version of MacOS that supported the Beige hardware. You
 can use 9.2.2, but you need to replace several of the extensions with
 older versions from 9.1 or earlier.

 As I remember, some that are necessary to replace are (final working
 versions listed):

 Sound Control Panel (???)
 ATI Graphics Accelerator v. 5.2.4
 ATI Resource Manager v. 2.7.3


 




--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Minitower freezing at startup


On Oct 4, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 I turned the extentions off and it booted! I am going to try to find  
 an older 9 installer. I have run 9.2 on several beiges with no  
 problems though...

Yes, 9.2.2 runs, but if you ever need to import video using a Wings AV  
card, or import sound using a Whisper card, you'll find that 9.2.2  
won't work. Also, I believe the ATI video acceleration with the built- 
in Rage is not functional (in the extensions parade at the startup  
you'll see an X across the ATI extension.)


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

A/V card for G4 MDD??

Is there any sort of an audio video in and out card that will work with mac
os x on a g4? Kinda like the ones that came in the beige g3.
-Jonas

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: dvd authoring


On Oct 4, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Nestamicky wrote:

 Oct 4 15:32:24 suntanas-power-mac-g4-agp-graphics mDNSResponder:  
 7939: DNSServiceRegister(BENQ DVD DD DW1650 @ Suntana’s Power Mac  
 G4 (AG... (581339632), _grillezvous._tcp., , 9385) failed: Bad  
 Instance Name (-65540)

This error message seems strange to me, I don't see what DNS and tcp  
network stuff has to do with DVD burning? (is your Toast program or  
some other program phoning home perhaps? Little Snitch can help  
phone home instances). When I Googled failed: Bad Instance Name  
(-65540) I see someone having a problem with a HD, so it doesn't  
appear to be specific to the optical drive unit, but rather perhaps a  
bus issue? I didn't see a solution, but you might try a Safe Boot and  
see what happens when no 3rd-party extensions are loaded (you may not  
be able to use Toast, but Disk Utility or other Apple apps should burn  
DVDs still).

Also, the Safe Boot will clear the cache files, so IF it works in Safe  
Boot mode, there's a chance it MAY also work in a normal boot when you  
restart. If if DOES work in Safe Boot, but DOESN'T work in normal  
boot, THEN you've got a software problem with some non-Apple software  
extension. If it DOESN'T work in Safe Boot, you could have a System  
software issue, which MAY be solved by reinstalling the latest COMBO  
update. If that fails, the optical drive MAY be bad, although you  
could possibly try a different jumper setting or attaching to a  
different bus to see?




--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Mouse Question


OK, I plugged my Logitech Optical Mouse into my KB which is plugged
into my Belkin 4 Port USB Hub and sometimes I see the light on the
bottom of the mouse flash off then on. Sometimes all 4 lights (for the
ports) flash off and then back on.
It was plugged into my computer but I plugged 2 of my 3 4 Port USB
Hubs into the computer.
The Belkin is plugged into a power strip so it is not using Bus Power
to power it.
In case it helps here is what is plugged in:

Belkin - My KB and sometimes a camera (not plugged in now)

Other 4 Port USB Hub - 3 USB Thumb Drives

Any ideas?

-- 
Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
to go forth and claim our place in outer space.
   - Capt. Henry Gloval


(\__/)
(='.'=)
()_()
Help Bunny Take Over The World!

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: HD Issues

2009-10-04 Thread Dan


At 6:15 PM -0500 10/4/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote:
I thought the SuperDrive could read DVDs. Mine doesn't seem to
want to do that.

It should.  What does it say in System Profiler?

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Mouse Question

2009-10-04 Thread Richard Gerome


Hey Stephen,
 Did this set up work before? If not, are you piggy backing 2 hubs to one 
USB port in the computer? Also another thing would be are they 1.1 USB ports or 
2.0? The camera and or the opt mouse might need a 2.0 USB port, and this might 
be your problem? Is this a laptop or a tower? If it's a tower you might be able 
to add more USB ports and I would go with the 2.0... Another thing I would plug 
all the hubs into the power strip so they are all free from the bus!!! Try 
powering all these things alone off the computer USB port to rule out any bad 
hardware (opti mouse, camera and thumbs)... If they all work then the problem 
is the hubs or they way they are set up...  

CoolKat


-Original Message-
From: Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com
Sent: Oct 4, 2009 9:33 PM
To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mouse Question


OK, I plugged my Logitech Optical Mouse into my KB which is plugged
into my Belkin 4 Port USB Hub and sometimes I see the light on the
bottom of the mouse flash off then on. Sometimes all 4 lights (for the
ports) flash off and then back on.
It was plugged into my computer but I plugged 2 of my 3 4 Port USB
Hubs into the computer.
The Belkin is plugged into a power strip so it is not using Bus Power
to power it.
In case it helps here is what is plugged in:

Belkin - My KB and sometimes a camera (not plugged in now)

Other 4 Port USB Hub - 3 USB Thumb Drives

Any ideas?

-- 
Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
to go forth and claim our place in outer space.
   - Capt. Henry Gloval


(\__/)
(='.'=)
()_()
Help Bunny Take Over The World!




--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Mouse Question


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Richard Gerome
onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Hey Stephen,
     Did this set up work before?
 I had 1 USB 4 Port Hub on one USB port and the KB on another

 If not, are you piggy backing 2 hubs to one USB port in the computer?
Nope, each is on is own (each 4 port hub)

 Also another thing would be are they 1.1 USB ports or 2.0?
No idea. Here are their model numbers

F5U014-OE ( 
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:TJwCsGlzYBUJ:www.belkin.com/support/download/download.asp%3Fdownload%3DF5U014-OE%26lang%3D1%26mode%3D+F5U014-OEcd=1hl=enct=clnkgl=usclient=safari
)

A search of their site finds me nothing thus the Google cache site

2nd one
http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=93743

 The camera and or the opt mouse might need a 2.0 USB port, and this
might be your problem?
The Mouse is a Logitech LX3 Optical Mouse

 Is this a laptop or a tower?
Tower. A Mac G4 Quicksilver

If it's a tower you might be able to add more USB ports and I would go
with the 2.0...
I am looking into this. Anyone?

Another thing I would plug all the hubs into the power strip so they
are all free from the bus!!!
Find me a DC 5V cord and I will put the first mentioned hob on it

 Try powering all these things alone off the computer USB port to rule
out any bad hardware (opti mouse, camera and thumbs)... If they all
work then the problem is the hubs or they way they are set up...
Before I added the 2nd Hub I never saw this problem.

-- 
Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
to go forth and claim our place in outer space.
   - Capt. Henry Gloval


(\__/)
(='.'=)
()_()
Help Bunny Take Over The World!

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: HD Issues


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 At 6:15 PM -0500 10/4/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote:
I thought the SuperDrive could read DVDs. Mine doesn't seem to
want to do that.

 It should.  What does it say in System Profiler?

HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B:

  Capacity: 807.16 MB
  Model:HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B
  Revision: 1.05
  Serial Number:
  Removable Media:  Yes
  Detachable Drive: No
  BSD Name: disk6
  Protocol: ATAPI
  Unit Number:  0
  Socket Type:  Internal
  OS9 Drivers:  No
  S.M.A.R.T. status:Not Supported
  Volumes:
My Files:
  Capacity: 634.44 MB
  Media Type:   CD-R
  Writable: No
  File System:  ISO
  BSD Name: disk6s0
  Mount Point:  /Volumes/My Files


-- 
Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
to go forth and claim our place in outer space.
   - Capt. Henry Gloval


(\__/)
(='.'=)
()_()
Help Bunny Take Over The World!

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Minitower freezing at startup

2009-10-04 Thread Gus


On Oct 4, 4:18 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote:
 I turned the extentions off and it booted! I am going to try to find an
 older 9 installer. I have run 9.2 on several beiges with no problems
 though...

On os 9 it lets you turn off extension until you find the one that
causes the freeze on boot up.  That would probably give you a pretty
good hint as to what part of the process is messing up..

Good Luck!!


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: Minitower freezing at startup


On Oct 4, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Gus wrote:

 Is there anywhere you can get the proper extensions for the ati video
 in the old beige g3's for 9.2.2??

Yes. You can download the OS 9.1 update from Apple and use TomeViewer  
to extract the extensions.

ALL OS 9 updates:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1387

OS 9.1:
http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n75103

TomeViewer:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/4561

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

Re: HD Issues