On 1/21/10 11:28 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
openSUSE still is releasing for PowerPC, but I'm not sure on the
hardware support of G3-class machines. It won't break anything to try
it... :)
Actually, I had probably the easiest time installing a Linux with SUSE
on a BW G3. But I've just not
Greetings
You might try opening a terminal window and log in as super user, then
enter kill all -9
which should terminate all process's.
Harry
On Jan 21, 11:25 am, User roman...@ideal-access.com wrote:
Hi group,
How do I get rid of the do
Bruce Johnson wrote:
WOWZA, thats a large pile o'Urban legendosity. Uhh, no. A Lack of
drivers for the SMC (which is the power control system for the laptop)
merely means that yoiu get the fans on, and poor battery performance.
But even on that note, you're wrong, because the Asus One
On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
*LOL*
Then don't try the Control-Option-Command-F12 combination...
Doesn't work on my Apple Al KB ...
as per David Pogue ...
control-option-command-eject will cause Shut Down (with no
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote:
Bruce Johnson wrote:
WOWZA, thats a large pile o'Urban legendosity. Uhh, no. A Lack of
drivers for the SMC (which is the power control system for the
laptop) merely means that yoiu get the fans on, and poor battery
performance.
But even
On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
*LOL*
Then don't try the Control-Option-Command-F12 combination...
Doesn't work on my Apple Al KB ...
as per David Pogue ...
From: Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 22 January, 2010 13:40:55
Subject: Re: shut down pop-up
On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
On Jan 21,
Sorry, I came late to this thread.
Original question - Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
Multiple answer(s):
1) Wife won't let me buy a Mac Pro - she thinks things like housing, food etc
are a priority.
2) Even if wife were in agreement with idea, bank manager wouldn't be.
3)
On Jan 22, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Ted Treen wrote:
From: Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 22 January, 2010 13:40:55
Subject: Re: shut down pop-up
On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
On
You asked:
So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users?
I have been using Macs since the first one came out in the early 80s, used
Apple II's before that, plus DOS, Windows in all its incarnations, and
mainframes (ugh) before them in the '60s and 70's.
I am stuck using a PPC Mac
On the subject of security, how likely do you think it is that someone will
bother to take the time to write malware to attack G3's and G4's running
Tiger?
It's hard to believe that someone would pay the big bucks for a new mac
laptop, wipe the HD, and install Ubuntu! Buying a new PC laptop,
My MacMini suddenly started to boot only into SAFE mode.
1) Computer: Mac Mini - Processor: 1.33 Ghz (PowerPC G4)
2) Operating System: OS X 10.5.8
3) Memory: 1GB DDR SDRAM
4) 3rd party Peripherals have been working fine for over a year:
Logitech Optical Mouse, MyBook 1 Terabyte. HP Officejet Pro
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Paul Kemner zkem...@gmail.com wrote:
On the subject of security, how likely do you think it is that someone will
bother to take the time to write malware to attack G3's and G4's running
Tiger?
It's hard to believe that someone would pay the big bucks for a
On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Joss wrote:
MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION
I'm wondering if it could be something from my ISP (Bell Internet -
formerly called Sympatico) causing this. Internet access has been
interrupted by faulty Bell Telephone hardware in the basement of the
apt building several
On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Joss wrote:
My MacMini suddenly started to boot only into SAFE mode.
1) Computer: Mac Mini - Processor: 1.33 Ghz (PowerPC G4)
2) Operating System: OS X 10.5.8
3) Memory: 1GB DDR SDRAM
4) 3rd party Peripherals have been working fine for over a year:
Logitech
On Jan 22, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Ted Treen wrote:
Doesn't work on my Apple Al KB ...
as per David Pogue ...
control-option-command-eject will cause Shut Down (with no Dialogue
Box)
Doesn't work on a windows keyboard either...
Yet it works on our (white) keyboard on a G5, Black Pro keyboard
So someone gave me a single 533 digital audio g4 yesterday. I successfully
put a 733 quicksilver processor in it, and then decided to overclock it to
800MHZ. I successfully did this, except that when 0s9 starts up it says
that the build in memory test detected a problem with the cache memory and
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:08 AM, gifutiger wrote:
Greetings
You might try opening a terminal window and log in as super user, then
enter kill all -9
which should terminate all process's.
no it doesn't:
dbdev2:~ johnson$ sudo -s
Password:
bash-3.2# kill all -9
bash: kill: all: arguments must be
I have two older Macs with Panther and Tiger on them. I have a
Quicksilver with Leopard. I plan on holding onto them. They all work well. I
really like Apples. I only have the Quicksilver out though as there isn't
room to put three desk tops on my desk. I have a new Dell with Windows 7 on
I tried all three and find my preference for Os is Apple, Windows and
Linux, in that order. perhaps I am just more used to the other two. I know
Linux is great for old Windows computers. I didn't realize that it was just as
good for Apples..
From: Kasey Smith
Sent: Thursday, January
I thought it is better(according to people on this list) to leave
your Mac running! This eliminates pop up worries.
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I'm not cheap. I'm retired. please let me know where I can find an
Apple for almost free.
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From: Paul Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:29 PM
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using
i see nothing wrong with buying used ppc mac's i just bought dual core
g5 and i love it
On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:55 PM, mlitwin3797 wrote:
I'm not cheap. I'm retired. please let me know where I can find
an Apple for almost free.
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From: Paul
What kind do you want? I have some old ones in the vault.
Paul Twiddy
Past President of CACC
Charlotte Area Computer Club
ptwi...@comporium.net
Serving Charlotte Since 1978
On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:55 PM, mlitwin3797 wrote:
I'm not cheap. I'm retired. please let me know where I can find an
I'm creating a DVD in iDVD and see that DiscUtilities provides a
DVD/CD Master option. That sounds like just what I want.
That option produces a .cdr file.
.cdr apparently has something to do with Correl Draw ?
Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone could comment on the comparison
between these three
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote:
I'm creating a DVD in iDVD and see that DiscUtilities provides a
DVD/CD Master option. That sounds like just what I want.
That option produces a .cdr file.
.cdr apparently has something to do with Correl Draw ?
No. .cdr is the file
I was hoping someone could help me troubleshoot my 500 MHz G4 running
OS 10.3 (not sure if it's a Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet, or Digital
Audio). It normally boots off of a 8 GB HD and has 2 500 GB HDs
connected by way of a PCI-slot ATA card. I think the card is the
Sonnet Tempo but it might be a
On 1/22/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:08 AM, gifutiger wrote:
Greetings
You might try opening a terminal window and log in as super user, then
enter kill all -9
which should terminate all process's.
no it doesn't:
dbdev2:~ johnson$ sudo -s
On 1/22/10, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote:
sudo killall * -s9 might work though, I haven't tried it myself for
obvious reasons
er, I think it has to be sudo killall -r* -s9 or sudo killall -r -s9 *
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On 1/22/10, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone could comment on the comparison
between these three file formats: .cdr .dmg. .img ?
IIRC, *.cdr is equivilent to *.iso it's just that in all their wisdom
apple decided to use the *.cdr extension for iso
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Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
Date:Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010N
From:brettallica br...@nisene.com
To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
What fun is life without a little novelty/frivolity? :-)
I totally agree! It
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Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
Date:Freitag 22 Januar 2010N
From:mlitwin3797 mlitwin3...@att.net
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
I tried all three and find my preference for Os is Apple, Windows and
Linux, in
On Jan 21, 2:08 pm, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote:
Hello fellows of the G-Group!
. . . (Why Power Macs _and_ why Mac OS X?)
. . . So why bother with the G3-G5 anyhow?
. . . So: why bother with Gs?
. . . So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users?
Cheers,
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Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
Date:Freitag 22 Januar 2010N
From:Paul Kemner zkem...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
On the subject of security, how likely do you think it is that someone will
bother to
On 1/22/10 11:10 AM, sharonopolis wrote:
I was hoping someone could help me troubleshoot my 500 MHz G4 running
OS 10.3 (not sure if it's a Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet, or Digital
Audio). It normally boots off of a 8 GB HD and has 2 500 GB HDs
connected by way of a PCI-slot ATA card. I think the
-- Original message --
Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
Date:Freitag 22 Januar 2010N
From:Da'Birdman sa...@defalcos.com
To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
I've seen a lot of good, well thought-out replies on this: They work
well for
--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Da'Birdman sa...@defalcos.com wrote:
Why would anyone join a group dedicated to Power PC G machines and ask why you
are still using them?
Ha Ha!
Always trust a Texan NOT to trust anybody. I think your answer is the huge
number of replies it generated.
Personally I think
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general.
I've seen information about Apple no longer providing parts for
PowerPC-based Mac repairs, in some cases. But as for no longer
supporting Tiger? Please provide specific
Jeff Bequette
jbeque...@tconl.com
Bought my last dual g5/1.8 (June 04), six years later still doing
almost everything I need it to do... (Civ IV would be nice, but not
nice enough to buy new.) Works very well in leopard. However, I
didn't get the bluetooth option when I bought it. Does
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general.
I've seen information about Apple no longer providing parts for
PowerPC-based Mac repairs, in some cases. But as for no longer
I share many of the views expressed in this thread about using a
computer that is a great value and does what we need it to do. In
most cases the need is expressed in software terms, since software is
generally what we are referring to when we say we use a computer.
I'd like to add that my
At 9:08 PM +0100 1/21/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote:
I was just thinking about the future.
ow.
I've just made an old G3 BW working again (it was wasting space and
picking up dust for about two years or more) and it is now in my
office. I've installed Tiger and it is just okay working
with
I *AM NOT* kidding. Linux does not know how two work the CPU
voltage part of the SMC chip, which makes electrons jump the
electron paths in the CPU, eventually boring new paths and shorting
out the CPU.
Darn it. Now I gotta clean coffee out of my keyboard.
This is pure, unadulterated,
On 1/22/10 11:39 AM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com Spew into the
cybertrough:
Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone could comment on the comparison
between these three file formats: .cdr .dmg. .img ?
IIRC, *.cdr is equivilent to *.iso it's just that in all their wisdom
apple decided to use
At 4:37 PM -0500 1/22/2010, Len Gerstel wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general.
I've seen information about Apple no longer providing parts for
PowerPC-based Mac
At 9:01 AM -0800 1/22/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
So someone gave me a single 533 digital audio g4 yesterday. I
successfully put a 733 quicksilver processor in it, and then decided
to overclock it to 800MHZ. I successfully did this, except that
when 0s9 starts up it says that the build in memory
Ok, I'll chime in. I have Beige G3 at work running an eternal slide
show on two 19 inch LCD monitors. And a 500mhz G4 for general
classroom work, mostly Photoshop, on another pair of 19 inch LCDs.
Both running OSX, the G4 runs Leopard. Very reliable and fast enough.
At home I have a
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Dan wrote:
At 4:37 PM -0500 1/22/2010, Len Gerstel wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in
general.
I've seen information about Apple no
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Paul Twiddy wrote:
What kind do you want? I have some old ones in the vault.
Paul Twiddy
Past President of CACC
Charlotte Area Computer Club
ptwi...@comporium.net
Serving Charlotte Since 1978
On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:55 PM, mlitwin3797 wrote:
I'm not cheap.
On Jan 22, 2010, at 10:55 AM, John Callahan wrote:
I thought it is better(according to people on this list) to leave
your Mac running! This eliminates pop up worries.
Heh, i only shut down my G3/400MHz here when i need to move it or
upgrade it!
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Like all good rumor there is truth in some of this.
Semiconductor line widths have become so small that the operating voltage has
had to be reduced constantly to combat leakage and NBTI effects. Having a
overvoltage condition is VERY hazardous to a cpu's life. We in the
semiconductor industry
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:40 PM, kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.comwrote:
I share many of the views expressed in this thread about using a
computer that is a great value and does what we need it to do. In
most cases the need is expressed in software terms, since software is
generally what
How far do you want to go? I have some 6500s down there and I might find a G-3
Beige File Server.
I am also retired. Worst job I have ever had. Don't like it.
Paul
On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Kasey Smith wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Paul Twiddy wrote:
What kind do you want? I
On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
But you may notice my spinoff thread was about speculations as
to why people run Microsoft Winblowz on Macs and ignore the far
superior OS X. That can be very mysterious.
I have a few devices that need windows,
At 5:26 PM -0500 1/22/2010, Len Gerstel wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Dan wrote:
At 4:37 PM -0500 1/22/2010, Len Gerstel wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general.
Heh, im a student here (freshman in high school.) Lemme know if you
can find a 500 series (like a Quadra or Performa or even an LC)
On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Paul Twiddy wrote:
How far do you want to go? I have some 6500s down there and I might
find a G-3 Beige File Server.
I am also
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:48 PM, mlitwin3797 mlitwin3...@att.net wrote:
* I agree with your wife.*
This is the first use of a custom font I have seen on LEM since i joined a
decade ago. A milestone!
And no complaints or Nannie threats ! WOO HOO !
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
But you may notice my spinoff thread was about speculations as to why
people run Microsoft Winblowz on Macs and ignore the far superior OS X.
That can be
In addition to the other suggestions, I would start out with a file/
disk check/repair using the diskutil. You can access it by booting up
on the cd boot rom for your system.
Gus.
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On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general.
I've seen information about Apple no longer providing parts for
PowerPC-based Mac repairs, in some cases. But as for no longer
details: Ruby iMac G3 DV, Summer 2000; built in memory PC-100 322S; 400 mHz
Is there a way to speed up the internet?
Jane
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Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
=
I think you have it the opposite way. *.iso is a PC term and ISO is short
for International Organization for Standardization so the PC world is
idiotic in calling it ISO when it should be IOS.
===
well, it's called ISO
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:51 PM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.comwrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general.
I've seen information about Apple no longer
There is a site that tells how to overclock, and supposedly this is a really
stable overclock that works every time.
-Jonas
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
At 9:01 AM -0800 1/22/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
So someone gave me a single 533 digital audio g4
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 10:55 AM, John Callahan wrote:
I thought it is better(according to people on this list) to leave your Mac
running! This eliminates pop up worries.
Heh, i only shut down my G3/400MHz here when i need
On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:14 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:
details: Ruby iMac G3 DV, Summer 2000; built in memory PC-100 322S;
400 mHz
Is there a way to speed up the internet?
Jane
Erm, your bandwidth has nothing to do with your computer. If you want
pages to render faster, try Safari
On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
There is a site that tells how to overclock, and supposedly this is
a really
stable overclock that works every time.
Well, I suspect you've disproved that
--
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College of Pharmacy
Information
Well maybe, but I was just hoping that someone might have an easy fix. I am
happy I finally got the nerve to de solder a resister on the processor and
the computer still functions, so far.
-Jonas
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
On Jan 22,
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
So someone gave me a single 533 digital audio g4 yesterday. I
successfully put a 733 quicksilver processor in it, and then decided
to overclock it to 800MHZ. I successfully did this, except that
when OS 9 starts up it says that the built-in
On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Len Gerstel wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in
general.
I've seen information about Apple no longer providing parts for
PowerPC-based
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