Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 19, 11:29 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:12 PM, rogerd095 wrote: On Jan 18, 1:56 pm, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: I run AppleWorks 6 on my G4. You don't need OS9. Conversely, AppleWorks runs perfectly well on OS 9. You don't need OS X! Realistically, yes you do. While it's not as dire as it used to be before the advent of Classila, OS 9 is still almost useless on the modern web. Apologies for any misunderstanding. For the sake of clarity, I should perhaps have finished my post by adding 'to run AppleWorks.' Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or even v.4.0, for that matter. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
Realistically, yes you do. While it's not as dire as it used to be before the advent of Classila, OS 9 is still almost useless on the modern web. Apologies for any misunderstanding. For the sake of clarity, I should perhaps have finished my post by adding 'to run AppleWorks.' Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or even v.4.0, for that matter. AppleWorks 6 is missing a couple of things in the earlier Clais products but to have an application that runs from OS 8 to 10.6.6 is real OK in this town. I still run spread sheets I made twenty years ago and iWork doesn't even try to open them, what's with that? Claris, AppleWorks an iWork are all Apple products. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
That's nothing. I have MS Word docs from 20 years ago that MS Word 2011 does not open. File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying to decipher the data! -- Bruce On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:11 AM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I still run spread sheets I made twenty years ago and iWork doesn't even try to open them, what's with that? Claris, AppleWorks an iWork are all Apple products. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:33 AM, rogerd095 rogerd...@googlemail.com wrote: Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or even v.4.0, for that matter. Or the late lamented still-missed Claris spreadsheet which was based on WingZ. -- Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying to decipher the data! Thats why NASA was shut down :) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Oldest Mac operating system for Sawtooth
A note to clarify: Yes, a Sawtooth shipped originally with 8.6. However, during it's production run that changed to be some version of system 9. As far as I know, actually getting 8.6 to run on a Sawtooth that did not ship with 8.6 initially is quite the task--it requires finding the appropriate boot rom that is apparently hard to track down. Plus I don't know if any firmware updates got rid of 8.6 bootability. In short, system 9.0.4 is safe for any Sawtooth, and if you can track down the original install disks from an 8.6 sawtooth you may be able to run 8.6 as well. But I haven't had any luck with my sawtooth on anything prior to 9. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: That's nothing. I have MS Word docs from 20 years ago that MS Word 2011 does not open. File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying to decipher the data! -- Bruce Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-) I'm a CNC programmer. Still have 5.25 floppy's from my IIe. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
GeForce Ti Question
Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
I have a QS 2002 running 10.4.11 and the Ti4600. I replaced the Geforce 4 mx because the reviews said it was a much better card. I have not noticed a huge increase in speed, especially quicktime or internet. However, it runs flawlessly. A question for the group - Whats the best way to test your graphics cards? Dana, Is the card seated well in the slot? Is it the long card or the short card? The short or older Ti 4600 had problems when they were shipped and from what I remember didnt seat well in the slot. On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:07 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/20/11 1:36 PM, Baldassare Guzzo of guz...@gmail.com sent I have a QS 2002 running 10.4.11 and the Ti4600. I replaced the Geforce 4 mx because the reviews said it was a much better card. I have not noticed a huge increase in speed, especially quicktime or internet. However, it runs flawlessly. A question for the group - Whats the best way to test your graphics cards? Dana, Is the card seated well in the slot? Is it the long card or the short card? The short or older Ti 4600 had problems when they were shipped and from what I remember didnt seat well in the slot. On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:07 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana Hello Baldassare, Thank you for responding. It is the long card. Has a series of numbers that are no help in determining model or part no. (do they ever these days?). Like yours, this card ran well in Tiger, but I am trying to run it in Leopard with no success - I suspect it is incompatible, hence my question. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
Dana, Glad you wrote that because I was thinking of moving to 10.5 myself. Hello Baldassare, Thank you for responding. It is the long card. Has a series of numbers that are no help in determining model or part no. (do they ever these days?). Like yours, this card ran well in Tiger, but I am trying to run it in Leopard with no success - I suspect it is incompatible, hence my question. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
At 10:07 AM -0800 1/20/2011, DLC wrote: upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP) In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Reseat the card. Reset the PMU (press the CUDA button ONCE). Zap the PRAM. then boot... If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/20/11 2:18 PM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent At 10:07 AM -0800 1/20/2011, DLC wrote: upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP) In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Reseat the card. Done Reset the PMU (press the CUDA button ONCE). Done Zap the PRAM. Oh, done, done done! then boot... Yep If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference. Oh, yes, yes, yes, as I suspected - works fine in Tiger, a no go in Leopard. I was able to get the card to boot once in Leopard (single user mode), but it still had the artifacts mentioned present, and then it would not repeat mounting on a reboot. SO, it appears to be unsupported in Leopard - too bad, a somewhat nice card. Given my general alacrity for Nvidia, I'm not surprised. Thanks for responding, Dan (and Baldassare). Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, DLC wrote: Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). The Mac card is called a GeForce4 Titanium or GF4 Ti for short. If this card says 4600 on it anywhere it's a flashed PC card, and my understanding is that this would also require moving resistors on the card in addition to flashing the ROM to Mac. You might look at these photos to see if your card looks like the real Mac cards?: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/geforce4_ti/geforce4_titanium_Mac.html This card should work in Leopard. Since you're not getting QE/CI support, you might do a kextstat command in Terminal and see what video card kexts are loaded. If you don't have any nVidia kexts loaded, then you've got a software issue. You should be able to get this card working unless it's got problems. If it's a flashed PC card, you may need to tweak it to get it working. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/20/11 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, DLC wrote: Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). The Mac card is called a GeForce4 Titanium or GF4 Ti for short. If this card says 4600 on it anywhere it's a flashed PC card, and my understanding is that this would also require moving resistors on the card in addition to flashing the ROM to Mac. You might look at these photos to see if your card looks like the real Mac cards?: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/geforce4_ti/geforce4_titanium_Mac.html This card should work in Leopard. Since you're not getting QE/CI support, you might do a kextstat command in Terminal and see what video card kexts are loaded. If you don't have any nVidia kexts loaded, then you've got a software issue. You should be able to get this card working unless it's got problems. If it's a flashed PC card, you may need to tweak it to get it working. Hi Kris, Thank you for the heads-up. I'll check out the photo from xlr8 when I can (their server seems to be down at the moment). My guess is that you're correct - it just may be a flashed card. Though I cannot find 4600 at all, it also doesn't have the EEE listing which I was told at: http://www.welovemacs.com/nv.html the card should have (here is what they say): (quote) EEE Code Note: All Apple Video Card have a special three digit EEE code embedded in the Video Card serial number which positively identifies the part. Please note that this is the serial number of the Video Card, NOT the serial number of the machine. The Video Card serial number is on a tag which has the format xxxEEEx. The EEE code is the three letters immediately preceding the last digit of the serial number. (end quote) Checking the kext load makes sense, though the issue would be getting the card to respond enough to load enough OS to run the terminal. Thanks again, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
Dana I just put 10.5 on another drive in my G4. I'll post my results On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Dana Collins dlcatft...@frontier.com wrote: On 1/20/11 2:18 PM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent At 10:07 AM -0800 1/20/2011, DLC wrote: upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP) In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Reseat the card. Done Reset the PMU (press the CUDA button ONCE). Done Zap the PRAM. Oh, done, done done! then boot... Yep If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference. Oh, yes, yes, yes, as I suspected - works fine in Tiger, a no go in Leopard. I was able to get the card to boot once in Leopard (single user mode), but it still had the artifacts mentioned present, and then it would not repeat mounting on a reboot. SO, it appears to be unsupported in Leopard - too bad, a somewhat nice card. Given my general alacrity for Nvidia, I'm not surprised. Thanks for responding, Dan (and Baldassare). Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
I have the same card running under Leopard in a dual 1.42 ghz mirrored door drive without any problems. It was also running in a dual 1 ghz mirrored door drive under Leopard with out any problems. I think your problem is machine specific. Possibly something in the firmware? Russell On 1/20/2011 1:07 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Is LogMeIn the answer?
My husband uses a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.11. I have a new iMac (10.6.6) and a MacBook Pro (10.5.x). He is NOT computer literate and needs help from time to time. Some of those times, I am not at home to take care of the problems. I know there is software out there -- preferably free--- that will enable me to fix his computer no matter where I am. I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Oldest Mac operating system for Sawtooth
OS 8.6 Such information is readily available at Everymac.com: Thank you, Fabian. I had been there and seen that the pre-installed OS was 8.6. I didn't see anything there that specifically indicated that OS 8.6 was the earliest *possible* that could be installed and run on the Sawtooth. I take it that you cannot go farther back in time than whatever the pre-installed OS was. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Hi, I use TeamViewer for things like this. Its quick and easy and you can use it for more than just fixing computers (it has a presentation mode). Best of all its free for personal use. Albert Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jane, (Portland, OR) janespra...@comcast.net Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:04:53 To: G-Groupg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Is LogMeIn the answer? My husband uses a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.11. I have a new iMac (10.6.6) and a MacBook Pro (10.5.x). He is NOT computer literate and needs help from time to time. Some of those times, I am not at home to take care of the problems. I know there is software out there -- preferably free--- that will enable me to fix his computer no matter where I am. I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
At 4:52 PM -0500 1/20/2011, Dana Collins wrote: If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference. Oh, yes, yes, yes, as I suspected - works fine in Tiger, a no go in Leopard. Ok. So the hardware is fine. Just an issue of the driver in Leopard. I was under the impression that the Nvidia card was directly support in Leopard. But I'm unable to find a list of what's included in Leopard... @#$% Apple's site keeps giving me Snot Leopard info. :\ Hopefully someone can chime in, as to what driver to install. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Oldest Mac operating system for Sawtooth
On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Vanceone wrote: A note to clarify: Yes, a Sawtooth shipped originally with 8.6. However, during it's production run that changed to be some version of system 9. Thanks for the tip. Hadn't even considered the possibility, and might have been in for a surprise trying to install OS 8.6. I might anyway (no time soon, though). I don't suppose there's any other way to find out, unless EveryMac's lookup feature (by serial number) is *that* specific, which I'm doubting. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Logmein has a free version that should work fine. Diane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/20 19:04, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? What about Screen Sharing in Core Services? That's what I use on the LAN, I've never done remote on the WAN though. I would think with proper configuration it would work (mainly enabling remote access and port forwarding to his PowerBook). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 10:01 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-) Binary data, with fun things like different endedness and things like 14 bit bytes, etc. However this old data is proving invaluable, a re-analysis of old Pioneer data is solving some mysteries about the solar system: http://www.space.com/3608-newfound-data-solve-nasa-great-gravity-myst... And re-analysis of Viking data changed some findings 180 degrees: http://news.discovery.com/space/viking-mars-organics-experiment.html (Of course, this analysis wouldn't have been possible without the additional knowledge we've learned from the magnificent Mars Rover programs which show indisputably that NASA's still able to conjure up the Right Stuff. Probes with 90-day mission expected lifetimes and one is STILL working, SEVEN YEARS later.) That's 'cause they run 68K processors - never shoulda switched... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Can he follow instructions? If so... Skype is free, and its screen-sharing function will let you see his screen on your own computer (it works cross-platform!) while you hold a conversation with him. You won't actually control his computer, but you can see what he's looking at, and he can see you demonstrate how to do something. On Jan 20, 7:04 pm, Jane, (Portland, OR) janespra...@comcast.net wrote: My husband uses a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.11. I have a new iMac (10.6.6) and a MacBook Pro (10.5.x). He is NOT computer literate and needs help from time to time. Some of those times, I am not at home to take care of the problems. I know there is software out there -- preferably free--- that will enable me to fix his computer no matter where I am. I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/20/11 6:45 PM, Rock of rockie5...@gmail.com sent I have the same card running under Leopard in a dual 1.42 ghz mirrored door drive without any problems. It was also running in a dual 1 ghz mirrored door drive under Leopard with out any problems. I think your problem is machine specific. Possibly something in the firmware? Russell On 1/20/2011 1:07 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana Possibly; as Dan and Kris suggested, I too lean towards a software issue, as the behavior certainly resembled a faulty driver - would be nice if Apple posted updates to such instead of the one size fits all OS-embedded method. And I will check the firmware of the G4 itself. Anyone know the latest version for a QuickSilver? Thanks to all, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
