Thanks, everyone.
I still use G4 computers exclusively. My investment over the years has been in memory, cards and external HDs. Just want to thank all the great people on this list for their sharing of information and help. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DHCP Server??
On Feb 14, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Dan Ziegler wrote: > OK, here goes. I'm running ./configure, make and sudo make install. > First, ./configure... Nothing looks wrong with the line of the include file that shows the first error. It seems like something is wrong in the overall configuration, I'm thinking it MAY be the version of Xcode you are using. I know the configure script checks for things like that but if the environment (XCode) is newer than what the script expects it may not be configured correctly. I checked on my install. I built DHCP version 3.1.1 using XCode 2.4.1 on Tiger and dhcpd is running on Tiger. I just tried configure and make of DHCP 4.1.1 on the same system and it ran okay. But I do remember that I didn't install this version for some reason which I don't remember. It may have had to do with it not building or installing. I would try building it on an earlier version of XCode and / or try an earlier version of DHCP. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DHCP Server??
OK, here goes. I'm running ./configure, make and sudo make install. First, ./configure... ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... ./install-sh -c -d checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... no checking for awk... awk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3 checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/bin/grep checking for egrep... /usr/bin/grep -E checking for AIX... no checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking minix/config.h usability... no checking minix/config.h presence... no checking for minix/config.h... no checking whether it is safe to define __EXTENSIONS__... yes checking for ranlib... ranlib checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no checking for prefix by checking for dhcpd... no -n checking for dhcpd.leases location... /var/db/dhcpd.leases -n checking for dhcpd6.leases location... /var/db/dhcpd6.leases -n checking for dhclient.leases location... /var/db/dhclient.leases -n checking for dhclient6.leases location... /var/db/dhclient6.leases checking for int8_t... yes checking for int16_t... yes checking for int32_t... yes checking for u_int8_t... yes checking for u_int16_t... yes checking for u_int32_t... yes checking ifaddrs.h usability... yes checking ifaddrs.h presence... yes checking for ifaddrs.h... yes checking linux/types.h usability... no checking linux/types.h presence... no checking for linux/types.h... no checking for linux/filter.h... no checking sys/dlpi.h usability... no checking sys/dlpi.h presence... no checking for sys/dlpi.h... no checking net/bpf.h usability... yes checking net/bpf.h presence... yes checking for net/bpf.h... yes checking for struct lifnum... no checking for struct if_laddrconf... no checking for struct if_laddrreq... no checking sys/socket.h usability... yes checking sys/socket.h presence... yes checking for sys/socket.h... yes checking net/if_dl.h usability... yes checking net/if_dl.h presence... yes checking for net/if_dl.h... yes checking net/if6.h usability... no checking net/if6.h presence... no checking for net/if6.h... no checking regex.h usability... yes checking regex.h presence... yes checking for regex.h... yes checking for library containing MD5_Init... -lcrypto checking for library containing MD5Init... no checking for library containing socket... none required checking for library containing inet_ntoa... none required checking for library containing inet_aton... none required checking for library containing regcomp... none required checking for library containing if_nametoindex... none required checking for /dev/random... yes checking for struct sockaddr.sa_len... yes checking for struct iaddr *... yes checking size of struct iaddr *... 4 checking for struct msghdr.msg_control... yes checking for flexible array members... yes configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating client/Makefile config.status: creating common/Makefile config.status: creating common/tests/Makefile config.status: creating dhcpctl/Makefile config.status: creating dst/Makefile config.status: creating includes/Makefile config.status: creating omapip/Makefile config.status: creating relay/Makefile config.status: creating server/Makefile config.status: creating tests/Makefile config.status: creating includes/config.h config.status: includes/config.h is unchanged config.status: executing depfiles commands And for make: make Making all in bind bind-9.7.1 already unpacked... Configuring BIND Export libraries for DHCP. Building BIND Export libraries - this takes some time. building in /ort/dhcp-4.2.0-P2/bind/bind-9.7.1/lib/export ranlib: file: libisc.a(condition.o) has no symbols ranlib: file: libisc.a(mutex.o) has no symbols ranlib: file: libisc.a(condition.o) has no symbols ranlib: file: libisc.a(mutex.o) has no symbols ../../../lib/dns/nsec3.c: In function ‘dns_nsec3_addnsec3’: ../../../lib/dns/nsec3.c:560: warning: ‘exists’ may be used uninitialized in this function ranlib: file: libdns.a(openssl_link.o) has no symbols ranlib: file: libdns.a(openssldh_link.o)
Re: GeForce 6800 vs 6200
It would most definitely be an improvement unless the 6800 is PCI. lol. The new card would probably have better and/or more pipelines, pixel shaders...etc and the GPU clock speed will be faster. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM, faithie999 wrote: > i'm running an XFX GeForce 6200 (flashed) video card in my Sawtooth. > i'm wondering if a galaxy GeForce 6800 would be an appreciable > improvement. > > thanks > > ken baker > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
GeForce 6800 vs 6200
i'm running an XFX GeForce 6200 (flashed) video card in my Sawtooth. i'm wondering if a galaxy GeForce 6800 would be an appreciable improvement. thanks ken baker -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I have a Pioneer DVR 115
On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Tina K. wrote: > > There was a time when Pioneer made the very best optical media players and > burners but that time seems to have passed. My next ODD will probably be > Samsung, what it won't be is Pioneer. > > Everything changes. > > Tina > Beware of the Samsung LightScribe models I bought two from OWC with LightScribe and both produced too many coasters and poor LightScribe performance, so they replaced them with Pioneer 118L. Since then bought a LiteOn with LightScribe and it works very good burning and labeling. IMHO Pioneer is the best, I own 9 of them but if you need LightScribe then LiteOn is the choice. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I have a Pioneer DVR 115
On 2011/02/14 13:03, peterh...@cruzio.com so eloquently wrote: Formerly, I was buying Pioneer almost exclusively, but Pioneer has ceased to be price- and performance-competitive. There was a time when Pioneer made the very best optical media players and burners but that time seems to have passed. My next ODD will probably be Samsung, what it won't be is Pioneer. Everything changes. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15" HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Drive upgrade
At 5:39 AM -0800 2/14/2011, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Dan wrote: > If the box supports the bigger drives, it's possible that the controller will automagically RAID the drives. Otherwise they'd have to provide some sort of tool to make it do it. > You haven't said the actual model name so googling around a little, on Acomdata's site it says there are no drivers - it just uses the OS provided ones. That's normal. Doesn't seem to say anything about fixing or rebuilding the raid, tools, etc. This is the box I have It states a 2TB capacity but maybe the specs were written before the larger HDD's were readily available? And as you said it appears no drivers needed. http://www.acomdata.com/app/stx.productdetail.asp?did=48 Nice box. The specs and googling around don't say what type of interface it uses internally. Should be SATA, but it could be anything really. You could write to them and ask. Or open the case and see what the existing drives are, then buy drives with the same type of interface and try 'em... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: File and image server
At 7:00 AM -0700 2/14/2011, Nestamicky wrote: On 13/02/11 9:12 AM, Dan wrote: I'm looking for suggestions and what I want to do is be able to serve images and music from a machine on the lan. Clients on the lan will be other macs. Enable file sharing on the serving Mac. That will give the client computers full access to pics etc. Then use iTunes sharing to do the music. Dan, so should I install OS X server and do this. Or just with a copy of what version of OS X will do this. Regular OS X should suffice, for what you've described so far. She was thinking of something that clients could drop the ip address of the serving mac and be able to see the pictures on their browsers and listen to music. In the Sharing system preferences, you can enable personal web sharing. Then you could create some web pages, to display your pictures. Seems a bit complicated to me tho. I'm thinking you could just arrange the photos in folders, let the remote client mount it, then peruse/view with whatever software they want. I do that with GraphicConverter all the time - great picture browser and slide show. And even perhaps, dare I say, allow her b/f who comes over with a winfroze machine to connect up. That same Sharing panel will let you Windows sharing also. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Services on new iMac
On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: > I am running Snow leopard, 10.6.6 on my new iMac. How do I get > Services to load? > > I have gone to System Preferences>keyboard>keyboard shortcuts>Services > and checked the ones i want, but nothing shows up. I select Services > in Finder and other Apps, and it says No Services Apply for > everything! Services depend on something being selected in the document or open in Finder; 'no services apply' is the default state of affairs if you have nothing selected or open. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
No Services on new iMac
I am running Snow leopard, 10.6.6 on my new iMac. How do I get Services to load? I have gone to System Preferences>keyboard>keyboard shortcuts>Services and checked the ones i want, but nothing shows up. I select Services in Finder and other Apps, and it says No Services Apply for everything! Anyone have a clue how to get Services working? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I have a Pioneer DVR 115
>> Lite-On makes a decent IDE burner ... about $22 from NewEgg. > > Agreed. Burners rarely last longer than 5 years if used regularly. I > can recommend this Samsung model as a drop-in replacement for G4 power > macs. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151176 I've had excellent luck with both Samsung and Lite-On. Many Sonys are actually re-branded Lite-Ons. My Lite-On hard drive DVD recorder insists on Lite-On (IDE) optical drives. But just a few of the many Lite-On IDE optical drives will actually work in that product. For my Macks and Hacks, I usually buy on "price" alone, with Lite-On or Samsung usually getting the nod. Formerly, I was buying Pioneer almost exclusively, but Pioneer has ceased to be price- and performance-competitive. As usual, YMMV. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Drive upgrade
On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Dan wrote: > > If the box supports the bigger drives, it's possible that the controller will > automagically RAID the drives. Otherwise they'd have to provide some sort of > tool to make it do it. > > You haven't said the actual model name so googling around a little, on > Acomdata's site it says there are no drivers - it just uses the OS provided > ones. That's normal. Doesn't seem to say anything about fixing or > rebuilding the raid, tools, etc. > > - Dan. This is the box I have It states a 2TB capacity but maybe the specs were written before the larger HDD's were readily available? And as you said it appears no drivers needed. http://www.acomdata.com/app/stx.productdetail.asp?did=48 John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I have a Pioneer DVR 115
On Feb 13, 8:57 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: > > I have a Pioneer DVR 115 which suddenly will not burn > > CD or DVD's. I have checked cables and cleaned > > with a cleaning disk. OS 10.5.8 on a G4 with 2 > > meg of ram and 1gig sonnet processor. First noticed > > when burn a play-list from iTunes 10.0.2. > > Burners have a finite lifetime. > > Burning at maximum rated speed reduces the lifetime of the semiconductor > laser. > > Burning at one-half rated speed could increase its lifetime, and probably > reduces the number of "coasters", too. > > But, once you start to get consistently bad burns, the drive is telling > you that its life is just about over. > > And, once this process starts, you probably will have bad reads, too. > > Lite-On makes a decent IDE burner ... about $22 from NewEgg. Agreed. Burners rarely last longer than 5 years if used regularly. I can recommend this Samsung model as a drop-in replacement for G4 power macs. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151176 -sri -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 3rd party wireless pci card for MDD
> followed the exact instructions. after double clicking on the > downloaded file the name of it is "bcm43xx_enabler.sh" rather than > having the version tagging along. don't know if that makes a > difference. still no luck here. : ( There ARE cases, as yet unenumerated, where an apparently Airport-compatible card (and a Broadcom 43xx would be a primary example) will NOT be accepted as such after the system is installed. The solution, then, is to reinstall the system, making sure the card is seen and the password is set during system installation. If that procedure is not successful, then the card is most likely not Airport-compatible, and cannot be made compatible. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External drive fails to appear on Desk top?
On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:24 AM, Geke wrote: Then what can be the difference between the two systems, the one on the old drive and the newly-installed one? In the worst case, you could always take the HD from its enclosure and connect it in a different way, like USB, with that device Bruce suggested, or internally if you have the right connection/adapter. -- Thanks Geke, I have a kit in the mail that Bruce suggested. When it arrives I'll try to make it work. I already have the drive out of the case. I'll let you know. Appreciate your interest. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 3rd party wireless pci card for MDD
On Feb 13, 11:33 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Feb 13, 2011, at 9:10 PM, akhoff18 wrote: > Download the file "bcm43xx_enabler_0.5.3.sh.zip" and double-click it > to unzip it. The unzipped file will be called > "bcm43xx_enabler_0.5.3.sh". Launch Terminal, type sudo with a space > after and drag the script "bcm43xx_enabler_0.5.3.sh" into the Terminal > window and make sure the cursor is at the end, no extra spaces, > Terminal is VERY picky about extra spaces, and hit the Return key. > > It will initiate a dialog that will ask for your admin password, and > then ask if you want to create a backup of the original .plist (which > probably isn't neccesary), and then it will repair the ownership & > permissions and will be done. It will say you need to restart, but in > my experience this isn't true, the BCM plugin loads dynamically and is > available as soon as Network Preference recognizes the Broadcom > device as "Airport". followed the exact instructions. after double clicking on the downloaded file the name of it is "bcm43xx_enabler.sh" rather than having the version tagging along. don't know if that makes a difference. still no luck here. : ( -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: File and image server
On 13/02/11 9:12 AM, Dan wrote: I'm looking for suggestions and what I want to do is be able to serve images and music from a machine on the lan. Clients on the lan will be other macs. Enable file sharing on the serving Mac. That will give the client computers full access to pics etc. Then use iTunes sharing to do the music. Dan, so should I install OS X server and do this. Or just with a copy of what version of OS X will do this. She was thinking of something that clients could drop the ip address of the serving mac and be able to see the pictures on their browsers and listen to music. And even perhaps, dare I say, allow her b/f who comes over with a winfroze machine to connect up. Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
> [Presses start button which then glows. > "Bong" (Power On Self-Test) sounded. > Message appears on monitor to restart computer. > On subsequent attempts, start button extinguishes > when released. POST "bong" not sounding. > Red light on motherboard remains lit.] Had the same problem. Replaced the Front Panel Board (FPB), aka power switch, *and* the Power Supply. Didn't help. Motherboard looked like new -- no burn marks, no swollen capacitors, not visible cracked traces. The red LED on the motherboard was firing. IIRC the HDs did not spin up either. Ended up having to replace both the motherboard and the CPU as neither tested good. When one went it took the other along with it, I guess. I don't know how far POST goes before it gives up but the power light going out on release is serious. Perhaps bad RAM or a bad RAM socket could hang the POST. You might try starting with just one stick of RAM and try that individual stick in each socket. Check each stick this way. Doubt that's it though. :-( Unless you have a source for very inexpensive replacements, your money might be better spent on an Intel Mac inasmuch as Apple and third parties will soon drop all support on PPCs. If you go the repair route be sure you get the right mobo. Check for exact Apple part numbers here: http://tinyurl.com/2luemx. It might be wise to push the PMU (power management unit) button when you mate a PCU to an unacquainted mobo before startup. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External drive fails to appear on Desk top?
Then what can be the difference between the two systems, the one on the old drive and the newly-installed one? Can you try the drive on another computer? Or do you have a clone of that old system you can boot from and see if the drive appears with that one running? Or does this HD need some driver software to be installed? Or, if the Network setting for the Firewire port is off, could that be the reason? Just guessing... I hope someone recognizes the situation. In the worst case, you could always take the HD from its enclosure and connect it in a different way, like USB, with that device Bruce suggested, or internally if you have the right connection/adapter. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
