Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750
Hiyas! Thanks so much for your responses! Took the ES-500 back for refund. Now wondering what to do next. The ES-750 didn't work during the power outtage, wonder why? It didn't pop any warning lights or anything to let me know there was a problem. Not buying another one unless I know what was wrong with this one. My son has the identical unit and his worked fine. Any ideas? Should I buy a different kind? Tripplite? Belkin? On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/11/01 06:26, Anne Keller-Smith so eloquently wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/10/31 22:24, Anne Keller-Smith so eloquently wrote: Had power outage Friday and noted that while my son's Back UPS ES 750 worked fine, beeped to let him know to shut down, mine just allowed the computer to shut off. Not good! Did you have the Energy Saver pref pane configured to shut the Mac down before the UPS ran out of battery power? And the USB/Ethernet cable connected from the Mac to the UPS? No, because I don't use that software any more. As I recall, it never worked properly. What I do is when the power goes out, shut the computer down manually. My son's doesn't have it installed either. In all previous instances of power loss, the power would go out, the UPS's would beep, but the computers would stay on. To be clear, I'm referring to Apple's Energy Saver pref pane, not APC's software. It's worked flawlessly for me on G4s, G5s, and Intel through 10.4 - 10.6. Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 Intel iMac 2.66gHz Core 2 Duo 2GB RAM, 264GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.6 G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750
Il giorno 2-11-2011 13:40, Anne Keller-Smith ha scritto: The ES-750 didn't work during the power outtage, wonder why? It didn't pop any warning lights or anything to let me know there was a problem. Can it be the batteries are dead/exhausted? How old is it? I have a (quite) old UPS (I think around 10 years old), it worked fine for years, but lately when main power goes off, everything goes off with it (I mean, the UPS doesn't keep the computer on anymore). I think the batteries are just gone. But it doesn't tell me anything: it hasn't any fancy monitoring, just a simple LCD display with the battery level (it show full, but I don't believe it ;-). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New Member to this list
Il giorno 1-11-2011 21:35, David W. Morris ha scritto: I have tried Carbon Copy Cloner, but with zero success. [...] There must be a system password that I do not know, or an Avid Meridian password that I do not have, because when I try to copy the system files, the OS, or the Avid Meridian software to a different hard drive First, if you copy just part of the whole setup, you won't likely succeed. Copy protetcted software, usually puts some hidden files somewhere: if you don't know exactly what and where, it's likely you'll miss something. The usual way is to clone the whole disk/partition, as faithfully as possible (and, eventually, deleting unused stuff later). Besides, there can be hidden/system files that won't be copied in the normal way. Tools like CCC can copy even those files, so they usually succeed (but not always; sometimes I lost my registration even using CCC). A Block copy should be the safest method. I get a password request that I can't get past to complete the copy process. Aha! This can be your problem. To copy/alter some system files/areas, OSX asks you the password; even CCC (or the like) has to pass through that. If you don't have the password, the copy operation will abort, or it won't be complete. A way to override that limit, is booting from another OSX installation (where you DO KNOW the password), and cloning the target disk from there (in other words, the password is about the system you're using/booting from, not the one you're cloning). Ask me more info if I didn't make myself clear. NB: To do this cloning you have to use OSX, since OS9 doesn't know how to handle the OSX system/hidden files. Or, you could use some Linux disk tool, but I have no knowledge about that. The Avid Meridian software uses an USB dongle, so I am confused why they would also require password protection When someone is paranoid about copy protection, he can think The more, the better. ;-) Or, the password you're missing is the OSX password (and has nothing to do with the Avid software). to copy or move the files. If the latter is the case, it's OSX requesting the password (for safety reason). The same password request happens when you install some new software. If you don't have the system password, you're limited in the way you can manage OSX: you are working as a simple user, not the administrator. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical Audio Port continuously lit up on PowerMac G5 = NO internal speaker output = NO chime
On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Jack Countryman wrote: OK...mystery is at least partially solved. If you go to system preferences, choose sound, choose output, choose digital out and set the volume off the bottom of the scale, then you get the light around the output port. Yes, this is not an indicator, it's the laser that generated the modulated audio OPTICAL signal :-) You see the same red on a fiber data port if you're incautious enough to look directly into it when it's on (a bad idea because it's a pretty powerful laser and will fry a spot on your retina) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical Audio Port continuously lit up on PowerMac G5 = NO internal speaker output = NO chime
On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:53 AM, jfMac wrote: Mute is NOT selected and the midi settings are correct and NOT muted. Chime DOES play when headphones are used. This means the headphone port is physically defective. I 'should' make a contact that re-enables the internal speaker when you remove the headphones/speaker plug, but this isn't happening, so you have no internal speaker. I'd just use external speakers and forget about it, unless you think you can bend the contact a little so it makes contact and works again, or solder on a replacement jack (too much work for me). I cannot move the volume slider on the optical digital out device. It's greyed out, and remains on full volume no matter what. That's normal, it will only work when you connect it to some digital device. If I select the mute button on either optical audio device or internal speaker, both are made mute and likewise deselecting either one means both are NOT mute. Again, normal, it's a global system-wide mute. Nothing has effected the red lighted optical audio port; it remains always on, unless machine shutdown. I'm unable to turn off the optical digital audio port. This is normal. It uses light instead of electricity to communicate. Okay the port is lit up all the time, but it thinks a device is connected and thus shows up in Sound Preferences as a selectable device, or is it always in Sound Preferences even with no device attached? Yes, it's always in Sound Preferences even with no device attached. Going to boot in Verbose mode to see if any clues. kextstat shows both AppleTAS3004Audio and AppleTopazAudio are loaded which seems reasonable. These kexts are plugins that are nested within other kexts. I'll repeat this one more time since you seem to be slow at understanding the problem. The only problem is your speaker/ headphones port is physically damaged and isn't making contact to re- enable the internal speaker when there's no plug in the port. You can either fix the port (hard) or use external speakers all the time (easy). There's nothing wrong with your digital audio port, or your Sound Preferences Pane. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 (June 2003): Firmware Update 5.1.4 – worth the risk?
Hello! I've now received a Power Mac G5, the original one from June 2003. It is the top model with 2x 2.0 GHz and PCI-X. This one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_2.0_dp.html The first G5 I ever used was a Late 2005 model, also with 2.0 GHz Dual-Core. Now, what I noticed—in comparison to the Late 2005 model—is that the fans got to high speed from time to time. This occures in a certain frequency, but I guess it's temperature dependend. I'm currently running Tiger on it. I've got iStats Menus installed and this tells me that when the CPUs go too hot, the fans kick in. And slow down again. And kick in again… and so forth. I then found that there is a firmware update that fixes a fan issue, along with other fixes – “Power Mac G5 Firmware Update 5.1.4”: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL627 My G5 currently has firmware 5.0.7f0 installed. Problem is, I also found reports that very few users had worse experiences with the fans than before. Some even reported problems starting Mac OS X. (Cannot find the URLs right now, I used a different computer when I found them… Sorry.) Also, I would need Panther for this firmware update: https://discussions.apple.com/message/16233377#16233377 http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/powermacg5/topic2206.html#d27sep2011 Well, since there is no more warrenty of any kind from Apple, I don't know where I should risk it or not. Any thoughts? Cheers and thanks in advance, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750
On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:40 AM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Took the ES-500 back for refund. Now wondering what to do next. The ES-750 didn't work during the power outtage, wonder why? It didn't pop any warning lights or anything to let me know there was a problem. Not buying another one unless I know what was wrong with this one. My son has the identical unit and his worked fine. Silly question : is the battery plugged in? I once did that to one of our staffers, set her up with her new UPS (it was an old APC model) and went on my way. About a month later she stopped me in the hallways and asked What is that UPS thing supposed to do? Whenever we have a power glitch it just beeps once and the computer turns off. Me, VERY red-faced, go directly to her office and connect the battery ... Silly question: Is the computer plugged into the battery back-up side, and not the surge protector side? I don't know if it beeps on power failure when there's no load on the battery. Less silly question: Make sure you don't have something like a laser printer plugged into the battery side. Those pull way too much current starting up, and most UPSes will not work if they're plugged in. Im not sure what the ES series does, but otherones don't work at all, just immediately go into a fault mode. Test: Make sure whatever's plugged into it can take a power off condition and unplug the UPS from the wall. It should start beeping at you, and things should keep running. With bad batteries the ES-500 should beep at you occasionally and show a yellow (iirc, I don't have one of those in the office right now) Battery Fault LED. Batteries are relatively cheap and readily available at Batteries Plusthat's where we get our replacements, and the ones in those ES models are a standard size sealed lead-acid used in a lot of different equipment. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750
so the new MO has to be check it every now and then? i thought it should show a red light when the battery was low? On Nov 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 2-11-2011 13:40, Anne Keller-Smith ha scritto: The ES-750 didn't work during the power outtage, wonder why? It didn't pop any warning lights or anything to let me know there was a problem. Can it be the batteries are dead/exhausted? How old is it? I have a (quite) old UPS (I think around 10 years old), it worked fine for years, but lately when main power goes off, everything goes off with it (I mean, the UPS doesn't keep the computer on anymore). I think the batteries are just gone. But it doesn't tell me anything: it hasn't any fancy monitoring, just a simple LCD display with the battery level (it show full, but I don't believe it ;-). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Creations Jewish and Other Earthy Tribal Things SHOP http://www.downtoearthcreations.etsy.com BLOG http://downtoearthcreations.blogspot.com TEAM http://etsychai.blogspot.com/ GALLERY http://www.downtoearthcreations.com FACEBOOK Anne Keller-Smith TWITTER downtoearthweb -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750
Current APC ES models will flash an LED and beep at you occasionally to indicate a failure state, including a dead battery. On Nov 2, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: so the new MO has to be check it every now and then? i thought it should show a red light when the battery was low? On Nov 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 2-11-2011 13:40, Anne Keller-Smith ha scritto: The ES-750 didn't work during the power outtage, wonder why? It didn't pop any warning lights or anything to let me know there was a problem. Can it be the batteries are dead/exhausted? How old is it? I have a (quite) old UPS (I think around 10 years old), it worked fine for years, but lately when main power goes off, everything goes off with it (I mean, the UPS doesn't keep the computer on anymore). I think the batteries are just gone. But it doesn't tell me anything: it hasn't any fancy monitoring, just a simple LCD display with the battery level (it show full, but I don't believe it ;-). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Creations Jewish and Other Earthy Tribal Things SHOP http://www.downtoearthcreations.etsy.com BLOG http://downtoearthcreations.blogspot.com TEAM http://etsychai.blogspot.com/ GALLERY http://www.downtoearthcreations.com FACEBOOK Anne Keller-Smith TWITTER downtoearthweb -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750 what do you all use?
thank you bruce and all! no silly questions with electronic equipment. i would say the main cause of most of my problems are things not plugged in :@* yes, ups was plugged in. yes, plugged into battery backup side, in master receptacle. no, no laser printer!!! horrors!!! no, it didn't beep and is in fact still green. but the battery is prolly dead. OK GUYS, WHAT BRANDS DO YOU PREFER? not sure i want another APC now, am annoyed with them. Belkin, Tripplite? On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:40 AM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Took the ES-500 back for refund. Now wondering what to do next. The ES-750 didn't work during the power outtage, wonder why? It didn't pop any warning lights or anything to let me know there was a problem. Not buying another one unless I know what was wrong with this one. My son has the identical unit and his worked fine. Silly question : is the battery plugged in? I once did that to one of our staffers, set her up with her new UPS (it was an old APC model) and went on my way. About a month later she stopped me in the hallways and asked What is that UPS thing supposed to do? Whenever we have a power glitch it just beeps once and the computer turns off. Me, VERY red-faced, go directly to her office and connect the battery ... Silly question: Is the computer plugged into the battery back-up side, and not the surge protector side? I don't know if it beeps on power failure when there's no load on the battery. Less silly question: Make sure you don't have something like a laser printer plugged into the battery side. Those pull way too much current starting up, and most UPSes will not work if they're plugged in. Im not sure what the ES series does, but otherones don't work at all, just immediately go into a fault mode. Test: Make sure whatever's plugged into it can take a power off condition and unplug the UPS from the wall. It should start beeping at you, and things should keep running. With bad batteries the ES-500 should beep at you occasionally and show a yellow (iirc, I don't have one of those in the office right now) Battery Fault LED. Batteries are relatively cheap and readily available at Batteries Plusthat's where we get our replacements, and the ones in those ES models are a standard size sealed lead-acid used in a lot of different equipment. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 Intel iMac 2.66gHz Core 2 Duo 2GB RAM, 264GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.6 G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750 what do you all use?
On Nov 2, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: OK GUYS, WHAT BRANDS DO YOU PREFER? not sure i want another APC now, am annoyed with them. Well, I can understand the annoyance but you ARE getting their low-end stuff. In our experience the ES series has been reasonably reliable in use, but our servers and our own workstations are protected by SmartUPS models, not the BackUPS series. The kicker is the cheapest of those is $330. http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SMT750total_watts=50 Batteries last a variable amount of time, but average about two-three years, and we usually get a couple battery swaps before they die of something else. Note, these are the ones living in hot dusty phone closets; our server racks have their own rackmounted ones that are very expensive but rock solid. I'm not sure anyone's low end equipment is any better. I've seen Belkin's stuff die quite quickly, and have no experience with Tripp-Light (only ever used some of their line conditioners on scientific instruments in the past. Those were really good, but IIRC quite pricey at the time. Again, higher end stuff is better.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750 what do you all use?
On Nov 2, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: no, it didn't beep and is in fact still green. but the battery is prolly dead. Well the acid test is unplug the UPS and see if the attached computer keeps running... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 now APC ES-750 what do you all use?
OK GUYS, WHAT BRANDS DO YOU PREFER? not sure i want another APC now, am annoyed with them. Belkin, Tripplite? I've got 3 APC ES 550s and a 350 around here. Also have a Belkin. These are all the lower end models, I refuse to pay more than around $50 for a UPS. All have been working fine for years. The Belkin is interesting in that the battery that came in it was only a 5Ah, but the battery compartment was large enough to hold a 7Ah replacement. When looking for a replacement battery both were on the list. The larger the Ah the longer the backup power will last. I've never had a low battery indicator work yet. Every time I've been alerted to a bad battery is with a power failure and a non-functioning UPS. You didn't say which model UPS you were using, but more than likely you could swap out the battery from your sons working UPS and test it. Geno -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Java 1.6
yeah it does, not right considering they for years talked of it as though it was completely platform independent, it happened recently. I ran in to this same problem recently wanting the latest and greatest on my ppc mac derp apparently not. So bottom line is, there is no Java on new macs? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
New Group Member
Hello everyone I just want to introduce myself to the group. I have 2004 powermac g5 with two 2ghz processors running leopard 10.5.8 flawlessly. I've had this computer for 4 years and I don't have any plans on giving it up in the near future, Cheers! Romell C. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Java 1.6
On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Gottick International wrote: yeah it does, not right considering they for years talked of it as though it was completely platform independent, it happened recently. I ran in to this same problem recently wanting the latest and greatest on my ppc mac derp apparently not. So bottom line is, there is no Java on new macs? Yes there is, but not old macs. Apple is no longer maintaining an Apple port of Java, but Oracle is now including OS X as a standard platform: http://jdk7.java.net/macportpreview/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
