Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
I transfered Tiger from my Quicksilver to my G5 with no problems. Been running it for about 8 months now... On Nov 4, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Everything I have read is that 10.X installs are monolithic. ie: they include everything needed for any machine that will run the OS. I know G5s can run 10.5, but we still have classic apps that we run and I have not been able to get SheepShaver working. Remote desktopping into a G4 will be a later project. It is a Dual 2.0 G5. I believe it is the 2004 dual 2.0 with pci-x slots. (at the price and speed bump from a DA dual 533 and a Sawtooth 400, I am not being picky on which dual 2.0). My plan is to install the HD for the G5 into my DA (with a SATA card) and just clone my DA HD onto it. Yes, I know a fresh install is best, but I don't have the time or organization to do that here. Any flaws? Thanks, Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 1:57 PM, David W. Morris wrote: > . For some reason, only one of the two 2.5GHz G5 CPU's is being shown as > working in the "About this Mac" menu item. When I swap the G5's from one > side to the other, it is always the same side that is not working, so both of > the G5 CPU's work and it must be a fault with the Motherboard, or G5 socket > that is not working correctly. I pretty much can tell you the logic board is bad, Look for white traces on the board in the processor area under the clear plastic barrier, Windex may take care of that. You got nothing to lose at this point:-) But you have a chance since it boots I would remove the board and do a good cleaning, The ASD should tell you if the MOBO is dust, John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Jim Scott wrote: > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: > >> Il giorno 4-11-2011 21:57, David W. Morris ha scritto: >> >>> Anyway, back to the point of my message. I suggest you check any >>> liquid cooled G5 Mac computer for leaks and corrosion, before you have >>> a catastrophic leak and failure that damages the motherboard and PSU >> >> Should I check it every now and then? >> The G5 sits under my desk, and it's not immediately accessible. >> >> Should I put a diaper around the CPUs, just in case? ;-D > > Diaper? Heh. There's no effective way to do that and not defeat the rather > elaborate cooling system. And, the danger from leaks isn't so much to the > CPUs as it is to the power supply, which lives directly underneath the CPUs > and cooling system. In fact, Apple already has installed a diaper-like > absorbent pad on the metal plate that covers the power supply opening. But > it's only effective in catching the first drops when a leak starts, which > means frequent inspections are your best bet. Or upgrade Apple's pad with one > made from a spare pair of Depends. :^) > > Jim Scott > Apple had two different LCS's in the G5 PM 2.7 the Delphi (single pump) it was pretty sure to leak and need to be rebuilt the other LCS was made by Panasonic (two pumps) that AFAIK never has leaked yet. I replaced my Delphi after two rebuilds and one Power supply with the later model Panasonic it's a much better built unit and easy to service if needed. No diaper needed:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: > Il giorno 4-11-2011 21:57, David W. Morris ha scritto: > >> Anyway, back to the point of my message. I suggest you check any >> liquid cooled G5 Mac computer for leaks and corrosion, before you have >> a catastrophic leak and failure that damages the motherboard and PSU > > Should I check it every now and then? > The G5 sits under my desk, and it's not immediately accessible. > > Should I put a diaper around the CPUs, just in case? ;-D Diaper? Heh. There's no effective way to do that and not defeat the rather elaborate cooling system. And, the danger from leaks isn't so much to the CPUs as it is to the power supply, which lives directly underneath the CPUs and cooling system. In fact, Apple already has installed a diaper-like absorbent pad on the metal plate that covers the power supply opening. But it's only effective in catching the first drops when a leak starts, which means frequent inspections are your best bet. Or upgrade Apple's pad with one made from a spare pair of Depends. :^) Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
Il giorno 4-11-2011 21:57, David W. Morris ha scritto: > Have you opened up your Dual 2.7GHz G5 and removed the CPU's to check > for corrosion, or leaks? Yes, I heard about this problem with liquid-cooled G5s, so when I got it I immediately opened and checked it out. No leaks or any trace whatsoever (lucky me :-). > Anyway, back to the point of my message. I suggest you check any > liquid cooled G5 Mac computer for leaks and corrosion, before you have > a catastrophic leak and failure that damages the motherboard and PSU Now that you make me think about it... it could happen anytime. :-/ (or, since it's 6 years old now, it's "tested" enough?) Should I check it every now and then? The G5 sits under my desk, and it's not immediately accessible. Should I put a diaper around the CPUs, just in case? ;-D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
Have you opened up your Dual 2.7GHz G5 and removed the CPU's to check for corrosion, or leaks? I have both a dual 2.7GHz and dual 2.5gHz G5 PowerMac and both of them had the beginnings of leaks and considerable corrosion from the "O" rings, so I took them apart, cleaned off the corrosion and put them back together. I did not have replacement "O" rings like I should have, so I used some high heat silicone automotive gasket maker to augment the "O" rings and hopefully prevent any future leaks at that location. I know that it was very low tech and a bit of a hack to do it that way, but I did not want to leave the liquid coolant system open while I waited for new "O" rings to show up in the mail and I needed to put the systems back together to re-test the dual 2.5GHz system for someone that wanted to buy it. For some reason, only one of the two 2.5GHz G5 CPU's is being shown as working in the "About this Mac" menu item. When I swap the G5's from one side to the other, it is always the same side that is not working, so both of the G5 CPU's work and it must be a fault with the Motherboard, or G5 socket that is not working correctly. Anyway, back to the point of my message. I suggest you check any liquid cooled G5 Mac computer for leaks and corrosion, before you have a catastrophic leak and failure that damages the motherboard and PSU that sits under the G5 CPU's (bad design for a liquid cooled system). On Nov 4, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 4-11-2011 18:41, Len Gerstel ha scritto: Tough call. I like mucking around and straight to SATA will be faster than Firewire 400. Sure. And it's "geekier" swapping disks and connecting them... :-D I was mostly concerned about pci-x and the fan controls. I don't know if I am getting a hardware test disk with it. My G5 (2,7 DP) is quite silent. During normal operations, I can barely hear any noise. Just every now and then, fans spin up for some seconds, then stop again. But it could be the liquid cooling making it much less needy for fans spinning. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Nov 4, 2011, at 3:31 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote: > >> You're going to need the ASD 2.5.7 to check and calibrate the fans. > > I have this ASD 2.5.7, but I've never actually checked and calibrated the > fans. When Apple replaced the logicboard & CPUs they "forgot" to calibrate > the fans, and I didn't have ASD 2.5.7 then, so I couldn't do it myself, and > it cost me another full week without my G5, plus a 120 miles of driving and a > $5 toll. Now I've got ASD 2.5.7, but since I've never used it, could you give > some pointers? I understand the ASD discs are "dual boot"? Boot the Mac, insert the ASD 2.5.7 disc, then restart, holding down the Option key to select whether to boot from the ASD Open Firmware or from the OS boot volume. You need to boot from and run both in order to do a complete test of your Mac. Before booting from the ASD disc, peruse the Read Me file to learn how to run the calibration software, which is one of the options when you get booted to an ASD volume. Easy peasy. HTH, Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Nov 4, 2011, at 3:31 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote: > >> You're going to need the ASD 2.5.7 to check and calibrate the fans. > > I have this ASD 2.5.7, but I've never actually checked and calibrated the > fans. When Apple replaced the logicboard & CPUs they "forgot" to calibrate > the fans, and I didn't have ASD 2.5.7 then, so I couldn't do it myself, and > it cost me another full week without my G5, plus a 120 miles of driving and a > $5 toll. Now I've got ASD 2.5.7, but since I've never used it, could you give > some pointers? I understand the ASD discs are "dual boot"? Just boot the ASD with the "C" key and the calibrate option is on the top of the menu bar. It will take some time and make a lot of fan noise. It will also tell you if it needs to be calibrated. You can use ASD 2.5.8 also:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 3:31 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote: You're going to need the ASD 2.5.7 to check and calibrate the fans. I have this ASD 2.5.7, but I've never actually checked and calibrated the fans. When Apple replaced the logicboard & CPUs they "forgot" to calibrate the fans, and I didn't have ASD 2.5.7 then, so I couldn't do it myself, and it cost me another full week without my G5, plus a 120 miles of driving and a $5 toll. Now I've got ASD 2.5.7, but since I've never used it, could you give some pointers? I understand the ASD discs are "dual boot"? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: > >> Il giorno 4-11-2011 18:41, Len Gerstel ha scritto: >> >> >>> I was mostly concerned about pci-x and the fan controls. I don't know >>> if I am getting a hardware test disk with it. >> My G5 (2,7 DP) is quite silent. >> During normal operations, I can barely hear any noise. Just every now and >> then, fans spin up for some seconds, then stop again. > > Sorry for not clarifying. I am not referring to the standard fans. I have > seen may posts on the G list regarding fans running at full speed and needing > to be re-calibrated. > > Len You're going to need the ASD 2.5.7 to check and calibrate the fans. However unless the processor has been disturbed probably not:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 4-11-2011 18:41, Len Gerstel ha scritto: I was mostly concerned about pci-x and the fan controls. I don't know if I am getting a hardware test disk with it. My G5 (2,7 DP) is quite silent. During normal operations, I can barely hear any noise. Just every now and then, fans spin up for some seconds, then stop again. Sorry for not clarifying. I am not referring to the standard fans. I have seen may posts on the G list regarding fans running at full speed and needing to be re-calibrated. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
Il giorno 4-11-2011 18:41, Len Gerstel ha scritto: > Tough call. I like mucking around and straight to SATA will be faster > than Firewire 400. Sure. And it's "geekier" swapping disks and connecting them... :-D > I was mostly concerned about pci-x and the fan controls. I don't know > if I am getting a hardware test disk with it. My G5 (2,7 DP) is quite silent. During normal operations, I can barely hear any noise. Just every now and then, fans spin up for some seconds, then stop again. But it could be the liquid cooling making it much less needy for fans spinning. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical Audio Port continuously lit up on PowerMac G5 = NO internal speaker output = NO chime
Harry, You're thinking of the multi-out connectors of the newer Intel Macs, like the MacBook. The OP's G5 has a separate connector for analog and optical audio output. We have already established here that the OP has a problem (not too far off from what you're explaining) with plug detection in the analog jack. Chance On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:47 AM, gifutiger wrote: > Greetings, > > The problem is actually caused by a little switch inside the jack that > gets stuck. When you stick in an audio cable, it pushes the switch > down. If it's an analog cable, the end is made of metal. If it's > optical, the end is made of plastic. If the switch is pressed down, > the computer checks to see if the plug inside is metal or plastic > based on conductivity. When it gets stuck and nothing is in there, it > thinks an optical cable is plugged in since the switch is down but > nothing conductive is in there. That's why it works with headphones or > external analog speakers. > > Comments from an Apple User Group; > Had the same problem as thousands of you, re: dodgey cheap mutiple > output 3.5mm plug. When will they learn one hole for one thing. They > try to be too smart for their own good. Anyway, internal speakers > weren't working so I tried inserting headphones in and out, but no > luck. Then tried inserting a toothpick, but again no luck. Finally > succeeded, against my best judgement, to insert a metal object into an > optical output. By fiddling about I was able to "realease" the contact > that allows the computer to make an assessment on whether a headphone/ > toslink or "nothing" is inserted. The contact is in the 7 o'clock > position. By isloating this contact I gave it a gentle push downwards > and it seems to have fixed the problem, but be gentle as there are > plenty of things to ruin inside that little connector. Good Luck > > So your problem is in the "Toslink" connector. > > You could also try Trashing the file ~/Library/Preferences/ > com.apple.audio.AudioMIDISetup.plist > > Cheers > Harry > San Jose, CA > ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø > > > > On Nov 1, 7:33 am, jfMac wrote: >> Newly aquired G5 DP 2ghz with 2gb ram running Leopard, which I updated >> to 10.5.8. Air cooled NOT water. Mostly running quite nicely. >> >> Internal speaker not working thus NO chime or sounds. The headphones >> work fine. >> >> The Sound Preferences output tab lists the build-in-audio (Internal >> speakers) under choose a device for sound output, and lists optical >> digital-out port (Digital Out). No device is connected to the optical >> audio port, and selecting it brings up "the selected device has no >> output controls." If Digital Out is selected Output volume control is >> greyed out. >> >> If Internal speakers is selected the Output volume control is NOT >> greyed out, appears to work but has no effect. Internal speaker >> selection also states "the selected device has no output controls." >> >> I have reset the nvram via open firmware, but made no difference. >> >> An internet search reveals problems with the optical audio port mostly >> refer to portable macs. Solutions range from jamming the headphone >> plug in repeatedly to twisting and turning toothpicks, matchsticks or >> plastic forks into the headphone port at a particular angle. I surmise >> that on the portables there is an optical audio switch inside the >> headphone jack which gets stuck in the on position? >> >> On my machine there is red light lit in the port from boot to >> shutdown. Here's a photo of what the port looks >> like:http://support.apple.com/kb/TA27095?viewlocale=en_US >> >> Pushing the tiny door back on the port does not reveal a switch of any >> kind, and I don't want to go poking around in there without more >> information.The connector cable is I think a toslink optical; I don't >> have one, so it's off to the electronic store. Perhaps, just plugging >> unplugging the cable will have some effect, if my machine suffers from >> a stuck on switch. Who knows? >> >> I have NOT reset the PMU. A PMU reset always seems a drastic/risky >> measure to me, but maybe no more risky than prodding and poking the >> optical audio port itself. >> >> Is there a particular kext or bundle that controls the optical audio >> port, which i could remove/mv or disable? It has to be controlled by >> some kext, which one? >> >> Answers and alternative suggestions appreciated. Thanks. >> >> jfMac > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 4-11-2011 15:34, Len Gerstel ha scritto: My plan is to install the HD for the G5 into my DA (with a SATA card) and just clone my DA HD onto it. I had the same situation (OSX 10.4.11 from G4 DA to G5 2.7) some time ago, asked about it and everybody said "Go ahead, clone it! No problem at all". And they were right. :-) That is what I figured. I just wanted to make sure before I started playing with my "new" toy. Only thing, if you have some app optimized for G4 processors (like TenFourFox), you better swap it with the G5 version. But at least I won't have to remember "do I have a 7400 or 7410?" IMO, the fastest and simplest way to do this cloning, is thru Firewire Target disk mode: just connect the two Macs with a Firewire cable, boot the receiving (target) Mac holding down the "T" key, and do your cloning. No need to move HDs around. :-) Tough call. I like mucking around and straight to SATA will be faster than Firewire 400. I could show off how cool the 10 year old Target Disk Mode feature is, but the coolness will be lost on the people that will be around to see it. I was mostly concerned about pci-x and the fan controls. I don't know if I am getting a hardware test disk with it. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
On Nov 4, 2011, at 7:20 AM, David W. Morris wrote: > Yes, I understand what is happening and why (now), but I think for most > noob's MacOSX should have treated ISO images differently when you click on > one and then click on the Burn to Disc button. It just does not seem to be > as intuitive as it should be for users that are not as smart as you are (or I > am now). ;-) I agree, the Finder should be smart enough to recognize a burnable image like that and just do the right thing. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
Il giorno 4-11-2011 15:34, Len Gerstel ha scritto: > My plan is to install > the HD for the G5 into my DA (with a SATA card) and just clone my DA > HD onto it. I had the same situation (OSX 10.4.11 from G4 DA to G5 2.7) some time ago, asked about it and everybody said "Go ahead, clone it! No problem at all". And they were right. :-) Only thing, if you have some app optimized for G4 processors (like TenFourFox), you better swap it with the G5 version. IMO, the fastest and simplest way to do this cloning, is thru Firewire Target disk mode: just connect the two Macs with a Firewire cable, boot the receiving (target) Mac holding down the "T" key, and do your cloning. No need to move HDs around. :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
Yes, I understand what is happening and why (now), but I think for most noob's MacOSX should have treated ISO images differently when you click on one and then click on the Burn to Disc button. It just does not seem to be as intuitive as it should be for users that are not as smart as you are (or I am now). ;-) On Nov 4, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 3, 2011, at 7:47 PM, David W. Morris wrote: sn't it because the ISO should an CD-ROM format, such as Rockridge, or Joliet, or ISO 9660, and not a file format that is used on hard drives? Well actually ISO is a partitioning scheme, which hosts a file structure, which may be a variety of underlying file systems, like MS-DOS and HFS+. I have created many useless CD-R drink coasters while trying to burn an ISO to a CD-R disc, because MacOSX often mistakenly asks if I want to burn the "Contents" of the ISO image to the CD-R, instead of burning the ISO image on to the CD-R and I forget that doing it that way does not create a CD-ROM that can be read on other computers. When I use OSX's Disk Utility and burn the ISO image to the CD-R, I get a CD-ROM that can be read on any computer. That actually doesn't have anything to do with the ISO-ness of the dis image, but the way you'e burining the image….the first occurs when you tell OS X to put a file onto a disk (the iso file) and make a data CD out of it. The second (via Disk Utility) you're explicitly telling the mac that the file in question is a disk image and should be treated as such, hence the successful burning. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
In this doc, a different syntax is used. Maybe that gets you a step further: http://www.nextcomputers.org/docs/FAQ-OpenStepOnEmulators.pdf -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
In this doc, a different syntax is used. Maybe that gets you a step further: http://www.nextcomputers.org/docs/FAQ-OpenStepOnEmulators.pdf -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
On Nov 4, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Frank Rojer wrote: > Hello: > > First you must tell us your configuration. This is running on an Intel imac, running 10.6. yes, a bit out of the wheelhouse for this list, but I haven't gotten an answer in pother lists yet. > I suppose you are writing a script with Applescript. Close enough, it's a perl script running the hdiutil command as a system () call. > And you are using a virtual environment.' The end Windows environment is a VM, yes. > Is that correct? I am retired and I had some time helping you. > > Here is a link to convert a zip file to an ISO file readable by mac. > I found it using google.com. > I had to register to brainsurface.com to take a look at the article. Yeah sadly this is not quite what I need. The faculty member I'm helping is a subscriber to a specific database service. The service comes as a standalone bunch of files, with a simple text reader in the distribution that lets you browse the database manually. They used to send CD's with their monthly updates, and another IT person a long time ago wrote a MS Access program that extracted the data and consolidated it into a database on our server, so it could be used with SAS and other statistical programs. It requires a volume at a certain Drive letter to contain a specific file structure. The database service switched to downloadable zip files containing the directories that the CD used to contain..ie: not a disk image, just a bunch of files. I need to get those onto a standalone volume that can be mounted at a drive letter. I've found a windows utility that will mount an ISO image as (in this case) drive G: on the windows side, it works well. That's where I've gone to hdiutil to try and make the needed files. If I burn the .iso file to a disk it opens, and is fine in windows. This is baffling to me. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Everything I have read is that 10.X installs are monolithic. ie: they include everything needed for any machine that will run the OS. I know G5s can run 10.5, but we still have classic apps that we run and I have not been able to get SheepShaver working. Remote desktopping into a G4 will be a later project. It is a Dual 2.0 G5. I believe it is the 2004 dual 2.0 with pci-x slots. (at the price and speed bump from a DA dual 533 and a Sawtooth 400, I am not being picky on which dual 2.0). My plan is to install the HD for the G5 into my DA (with a SATA card) and just clone my DA HD onto it. Yes, I know a fresh install is best, but I don't have the time or organization to do that here. Any flaws? Thanks, Just CCC right to the G5 PM and it will run just like the DA only faster. My G5 PM 2.7 has Tiger and Leopard on separate partitions. I also need classic. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical Audio Port continuously lit up on PowerMac G5 = NO internal speaker output = NO chime
Greetings, The problem is actually caused by a little switch inside the jack that gets stuck. When you stick in an audio cable, it pushes the switch down. If it's an analog cable, the end is made of metal. If it's optical, the end is made of plastic. If the switch is pressed down, the computer checks to see if the plug inside is metal or plastic based on conductivity. When it gets stuck and nothing is in there, it thinks an optical cable is plugged in since the switch is down but nothing conductive is in there. That's why it works with headphones or external analog speakers. Comments from an Apple User Group; Had the same problem as thousands of you, re: dodgey cheap mutiple output 3.5mm plug. When will they learn one hole for one thing. They try to be too smart for their own good. Anyway, internal speakers weren't working so I tried inserting headphones in and out, but no luck. Then tried inserting a toothpick, but again no luck. Finally succeeded, against my best judgement, to insert a metal object into an optical output. By fiddling about I was able to "realease" the contact that allows the computer to make an assessment on whether a headphone/ toslink or "nothing" is inserted. The contact is in the 7 o'clock position. By isloating this contact I gave it a gentle push downwards and it seems to have fixed the problem, but be gentle as there are plenty of things to ruin inside that little connector. Good Luck So your problem is in the "Toslink" connector. You could also try Trashing the file ~/Library/Preferences/ com.apple.audio.AudioMIDISetup.plist Cheers Harry San Jose, CA ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø On Nov 1, 7:33 am, jfMac wrote: > Newly aquired G5 DP 2ghz with 2gb ram running Leopard, which I updated > to 10.5.8. Air cooled NOT water. Mostly running quite nicely. > > Internal speaker not working thus NO chime or sounds. The headphones > work fine. > > The Sound Preferences output tab lists the build-in-audio (Internal > speakers) under choose a device for sound output, and lists optical > digital-out port (Digital Out). No device is connected to the optical > audio port, and selecting it brings up "the selected device has no > output controls." If Digital Out is selected Output volume control is > greyed out. > > If Internal speakers is selected the Output volume control is NOT > greyed out, appears to work but has no effect. Internal speaker > selection also states "the selected device has no output controls." > > I have reset the nvram via open firmware, but made no difference. > > An internet search reveals problems with the optical audio port mostly > refer to portable macs. Solutions range from jamming the headphone > plug in repeatedly to twisting and turning toothpicks, matchsticks or > plastic forks into the headphone port at a particular angle. I surmise > that on the portables there is an optical audio switch inside the > headphone jack which gets stuck in the on position? > > On my machine there is red light lit in the port from boot to > shutdown. Here's a photo of what the port looks > like:http://support.apple.com/kb/TA27095?viewlocale=en_US > > Pushing the tiny door back on the port does not reveal a switch of any > kind, and I don't want to go poking around in there without more > information.The connector cable is I think a toslink optical; I don't > have one, so it's off to the electronic store. Perhaps, just plugging > unplugging the cable will have some effect, if my machine suffers from > a stuck on switch. Who knows? > > I have NOT reset the PMU. A PMU reset always seems a drastic/risky > measure to me, but maybe no more risky than prodding and poking the > optical audio port itself. > > Is there a particular kext or bundle that controls the optical audio > port, which i could remove/mv or disable? It has to be controlled by > some kext, which one? > > Answers and alternative suggestions appreciated. Thanks. > > jfMac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
Everything I have read is that 10.X installs are monolithic. ie: they include everything needed for any machine that will run the OS. I know G5s can run 10.5, but we still have classic apps that we run and I have not been able to get SheepShaver working. Remote desktopping into a G4 will be a later project. It is a Dual 2.0 G5. I believe it is the 2004 dual 2.0 with pci-x slots. (at the price and speed bump from a DA dual 533 and a Sawtooth 400, I am not being picky on which dual 2.0). My plan is to install the HD for the G5 into my DA (with a SATA card) and just clone my DA HD onto it. Yes, I know a fresh install is best, but I don't have the time or organization to do that here. Any flaws? Thanks, Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
custom setting "F" keys
I have a G5 PM Dual 2.7 with 10.5.8 and an ice cube tray keyboard. I want to assign the sound and brightness to "F" keys like on my TiBooks. Last century I remember a DA that allowed this on the extended keyboards, Is there anything I can do here or do I need to buy a new keyboard? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
Hello: First you must tell us your configuration. I suppose you are writing a script with Applescript. And you are using a virtual environment. Is that correct? I am retired and I had some time helping you. Here is a link to convert a zip file to an ISO file readable by mac. I found it using google.com. I had to register to brainsurface.com to take a look at the article. http://www.brainsurface.com/how-to-convert-downloaded-zip-files-into-iso-files-for-use-as-virtual-cddvd-roms Break a leg!! (I hope this will help you) end of email=== On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2011, at 6:58 PM, slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: > > It probably giving that error because Macs can't read MS-DOS. Can you use > the -fs option for FAT or FAT32? > > > MS-DOS is what OS X calls FAT , so yes, Macs can read MS-DOS, and have > been able to since system 6 or so. You may be thinking NTFS which is > Windows' current file system and Macs can read that natively, just not > write it….and the problem isn't that the Mac can't read it it's that > Windows can't. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD + FCE2
On 11/3/11 1:30 AM, Avid_Fan wrote: Hello! I'm running Final Cut Express 2 on my G4 MDD. When capturing footage the window freezes after 5 minutes every time and after a quick search it would appear it's because I need to use an older version of Quicktime. I didn't get install discs with my machine but have found original G4 MDD installation discs for £12, result! This will mean a re-install to 10.3.2. If i do this Is there anything I should be aware of regards compatibility of other programmes etc? Can the automatic update be disabled so i don't update QT by mistake.? For example I use iTunes and an iphone3G on the same machine, any issues there? Cheers, Evan Does it say what version of QT? Quicktime 7 Pro is the "Swiss Army Knife" of the older QT versions and works well with FCE. The free version is out on the Interwebitubes and it can be updated to Pro for just a few sheckles. FCE2 is a bit long in the tooth, but I wouldn't reinstall the OS just to get Quicktime. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
On Nov 3, 2011, at 7:47 PM, David W. Morris wrote: > sn't it because the ISO should an CD-ROM format, such as Rockridge, or > Joliet, or ISO 9660, and not a file format that is used on hard drives? Well actually ISO is a partitioning scheme, which hosts a file structure, which may be a variety of underlying file systems, like MS-DOS and HFS+. > I have created many useless CD-R drink coasters while trying to burn an ISO > to a CD-R disc, because MacOSX often mistakenly asks if I want to burn the > "Contents" of the ISO image to the CD-R, instead of burning the ISO image on > to the CD-R and I forget that doing it that way does not create a CD-ROM that > can be read on other computers. When I use OSX's Disk Utility and burn the > ISO image to the CD-R, I get a CD-ROM that can be read on any computer. That actually doesn't have anything to do with the ISO-ness of the dis image, but the way you'e burining the image….the first occurs when you tell OS X to put a file onto a disk (the iso file) and make a data CD out of it. The second (via Disk Utility) you're explicitly telling the mac that the file in question is a disk image and should be treated as such, hence the successful burning. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
On Nov 3, 2011, at 6:58 PM, slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: > It probably giving that error because Macs can't read MS-DOS. Can you use the > -fs option for FAT or FAT32? > MS-DOS is what OS X calls FAT , so yes, Macs can read MS-DOS, and have been able to since system 6 or so. You may be thinking NTFS which is Windows' current file system and Macs can read that natively, just not write it….and the problem isn't that the Mac can't read it it's that Windows can't. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical Audio Port continuously lit up on PowerMac G5 = NO internal speaker output = NO chime
Hi, Since I installed a Samsung TFT HDTV monitor (great picture BTW after calibration with the Apple software under Tiger - much better than the new iMacs IMHO and cheap too) and use its built-in speakers via the sound out stereo minijack my bong is also gone. I also have a M-Audio Revolution 7.1 card installed, could that be the problem? All system beeps etc. are fine via the Samsung's speakers. Somehow I miss that good ole bong though ;-) Regards, Jörg. On 3 nov, 19:27, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:21 AM, jfMac wrote: > > >> I'll repeat this one more time since you seem to be slow at > >> understanding the "problem". > > > To Kris Tilford: > > Totally unnecessary, not appreciated and downright rude. > > You're right, I was rude. > > A simple problem, asked and answered, more than once, just kept coming > & coming with talk about "looking inside kexts" and all sorts of non- > sense solutions in search of an imaginary problem. > > When a zombie thread won't die, a shot of rude usually does the trick. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical Audio Port continuously lit up on PowerMac G5 = NO internal speaker output = NO chime
On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:21 AM, jfMac wrote: > > > On Nov 2, 2:35 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: > >> I'll repeat this one more time since you seem to be slow at >> understanding the "problem". > > To Kris Tilford: > Totally unnecessary, not appreciated and downright rude. > In Kris' defense, an answer to your problem had been clearly provided across several messages, and you were still having difficulty understanding what was causing it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hdiutil help
Isn't it because the ISO should an CD-ROM format, such as Rockridge, or Joliet, or ISO 9660, and not a file format that is used on hard drives? I have created many useless CD-R drink coasters while trying to burn an ISO to a CD-R disc, because MacOSX often mistakenly asks if I want to burn the "Contents" of the ISO image to the CD-R, instead of burning the ISO image on to the CD-R and I forget that doing it that way does not create a CD-ROM that can be read on other computers. When I use OSX's Disk Utility and burn the ISO image to the CD-R, I get a CD-ROM that can be read on any computer. Hope this helps. (from the new guy, AmigaDave) On Nov 3, 2011, at 6:58 PM, slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: It probably giving that error because Macs can't read MS-DOS. Can you use the -fs option for FAT or FAT32? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bruce Johnson Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:43:23 To: Macintel List Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: Subject: hdiutil help I'm trying to write a script that turns a zip file into a Windows- mountable ISO file, and my sticking point is the hdiutil command creating the disk image. hdiutil create -format UDTO -srcfolder path> Works. It creates a .cdr (aka .iso) file with the contents of the source folder. However the resulting disk image is formatted with a HFS+ file system, so when you try to mount the .iso file on a wondws machine (or the disk made by burning it) Windows claims it's corrupted and unreadable. hdiutil has a -fs option allowing me to choose MS-DOS as the file system but trying that results in an error: mount_msdos: /dev/disk2 on /Volumes/TEST: Operation not permitted /sbin/mount failed with error 18176 However, it seems to continue to make the disk image. Anyone know why it' spitting out that error? (and before you suggest it: No Toast is not an acceptable solution, nor is using Disk Utility, this has to be managed on a regular basis by a user who just wants to stick some stuff in his windows Access database (yes, I'm writing a Mac utility to create an ISO so Access can use it in his Windows VM) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 MDD + FCE2
Hello! I'm running Final Cut Express 2 on my G4 MDD. When capturing footage the window freezes after 5 minutes every time and after a quick search it would appear it's because I need to use an older version of Quicktime. I didn't get install discs with my machine but have found original G4 MDD installation discs for £12, result! This will mean a re-install to 10.3.2. If i do this Is there anything I should be aware of regards compatibility of other programmes etc? Can the automatic update be disabled so i don't update QT by mistake.? For example I use iTunes and an iphone3G on the same machine, any issues there? Cheers, Evan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
New Member (or an old member renewed)
Hello! I've jumped the gun and posted a question already but just to say 'hello all.' I am a television professional (management side) and a wannabe film maker in my spare time. This is my project http://happywarriors.co.uk/. I was awarded a small arts grant a few years ago and bought a G4 MDD for video editing. It does the job but I will probably upgrade to a G5 sooner or later. Great machine though and an affordable solution for now. Cool group. Cheers, Evan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Java 1.6
No, actually. On the intel macs, there is java, and updates. But java isn't being maintained or updated for ppc. Sent from my iPhone 4 On Nov 2, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Gottick International wrote: >> >> yeah it does, not right considering they for years talked of it as though it >> was completely platform independent, it happened recently. I ran in to this >> same problem recently wanting the latest and greatest on my ppc mac >> derp apparently not. > > So bottom line is, there is no Java on new macs? > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New Group Member
Welcome to our group! On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Romell C. wrote: > Hello everyone I just want to introduce myself to the group. > > I have 2004 powermac g5 with two 2ghz processors running leopard > 10.5.8 flawlessly. I've had this computer for 4 years and I don't have > any plans on giving it up in the near future, > > Cheers! > > Romell C. > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New Group Member
Welcome aboard. I once made a post about how my G4 933 was running beautiful, had no problems, and joked that I must be doing something wrong. Lots of people got mad and made angry posts. LOL! Great machine you have - enjoy! On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Romell C. wrote: Hello everyone I just want to introduce myself to the group. I have 2004 powermac g5 with two 2ghz processors running leopard 10.5.8 flawlessly. I've had this computer for 4 years and I don't have any plans on giving it up in the near future, Cheers! Romell C. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
