Re: Power output problem?

[Frank Dutra]

I've had a lot more connected to a G4 than a couple of drives and a
9800. My guess is that your power supply is getting marginal. After 12
years likely the capacitors in the power supply have started going.
You could recap the power supply or do an atx conversion. Another
option is to power some of the extra equipment from an external power
supply, though if your power supply is on the way out then that'd be a
short term solution


Thanks Wayne,

If I read you right, you think lowering the overall power demand 
might help rather than just lowering the demand on the optic drive 2 
SATA drives, And 9800 circuit.
I have the original OEM 30 gb drive plus a another 40 gb ATA drive 
that I really don't need except for some older OS's,,, I'm guessing 
the power demands on the 2 ATA must be at least the power drain of 
one of the 2tb SATAs?

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Re: Power output problem?

[Wayne Stewart]

I've had a lot more connected to a G4 than a couple of drives and a
9800. My guess is that your power supply is getting marginal. After 12
years likely the capacitors in the power supply have started going.
You could recap the power supply or do an atx conversion. Another
option is to power some of the extra equipment from an external power
supply, though if your power supply is on the way out then that'd be a
short term solution

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Re: upgrading PPC G4

[glen]

>
> From: Valter Prahlad 

>Il giorno 13-09-2012 17:45, spilrules ha scritto:
>
>> I am currently living outside of the US and had set up my Father with a G4
>> Tower 500mhz dual processor
>
>> I also found a 1.25ghz Dual Processor G4 MDD machine for a bit more money
>> and was thinking that this would be a much faster machine for him.

>It would be way faster, but very likely it will be louder as well (MDDs are
>known for being the loudest PowerMacs, I think) - unless the original fans
>have been upgraded.

The fans will ramp up if the CPU is hot. My 1.25 Ghz Dual Processor MDD is as 
quiet any other Mac I have used as I write this post. The room temperature is 
82 F (28 C). When the room temp is much higher you will hear the fans.I believe 
the fans in my MDD are stock.

It is important to blow or vacuum out any dust bunnies as they will retard the 
cooling. When I received my used MDD a dust clomp the size of a mouse (the 
rodent) was lodged under the Darth Vader grill at the bottom of the case. 


There is definitely a fan noise on a boot or restart when the CPU is working 
hard. Unless you dad is doing intensive CPU chores the fan noise should not be 
a problem. --glen

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Re: Power output problem?

[Valter Prahlad]

Il giorno 14-09-2012 0:30, Frank Dutra ha scritto:

> I may have finally hit the wall so to speak, in my attempts at
> keeping my trusty old G4 (dual 450 mystic) alive. A recent attempt to
> upgrade my video card to a flashed Radeon 9800 pro
IMHO, it seems to me you're asking too much from your G4.
Besides, I think a 9800 Pro would be overkill for that machine, the
processor/memory/bus would be a bottleneck in comparison.

Anyway, it could be the G4 power supply is not enough to sustain all those
peripherals.

> The easiest fix that I see would be to disconnect the Pioneer optical
> drive  and put it in an externally powered box but I have no idea if
> that will work?  
If the problem is too much power request from the PSU, I don't think the
optical drive would change much. OTOH, the 2TB drive could make a
difference.

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Power output problem?

[Frank Dutra]

Hi all,

I may have finally hit the wall so to speak, in my attempts at 
keeping my trusty old G4 (dual 450 mystic) alive. A recent attempt to 
upgrade my video card to a flashed Radeon 9800 pro that required 
patching into the power supply via the connector cables that service 
the original cd/dvd drive (upgraded to Pioneer 106D). The original 
cable also provided an extension for plugging into an optional zip 
drive or other optical device, which I have dedicated to 2 internal 
2tb drives via a seritek pci sata card (2 port internal only). The 
Radeon video card relies on yet another jumper cable to patch into 
the optical power circuit which physically works, but I lose both 
SATA drives (won't mount) when powering up. Oddly enough, if only one 
drive is connected I am able to boot from it regardless of which 
drive it is so I doubt there are any master/slave issues. WOuld like 
to resolve this issue so I can renew backing up the SATAs and try  a 
Leopard upgrade on one. DOes anyone know if this is a voltage issue? 
The easiest fix that I see would be to disconnect the Pioneer optical 
drive  and put it in an externally powered box but I have no idea if 
that will work?  Thanks

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Re: Video card resolutions

[geraldcornish]

Bruce, thanks for the link to SwitchresX - the display is showing  
1680x1050 now, although it took four restarts to get both the nVidia  
card and the display to co-operate.

Ged

On 06 /09/ 2012, at 20:49, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Sep 6, 2012, at 12:12 PM, geraldcornish wrote:


Hi all,

Quicksilver 2002 G4 running Tiger 4.11 with standard Nvidia  
GeForce4 MX 64MB - the adc runs 17" Apple screen and the VGA runs  
a (not new) Fujitsu 22" display.


This is currently set to 1600x1024 but is very fuzzy.

If I select an option which causes a no-show a small window  
appears "Please change the display mode to 1680x1050 with 60 Hz".


I'm supposing this is the native display mode - but this is not an  
option available in System Preferences/Displays.


I'm guessing it is the display card which provides the resolution  
options and wonder if it is possible to change this in some way to  
provide the called for resolution?


You can try SwitchresX   
You'll need to go into the older versions, you need to get 3.8.7  
for 10.4.


This will let you use officially unsupported resolutions, it may or  
may not work, depending on the card and monitor.




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Re: external wireless device for mac mini

[David]

On Sep 8, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Martin N wrote:

> Hello,

> I also have the netgear and TP Link solutions above which plug into the 
> ethernet port.
> 
> The netgear is bigger but has a better interface while the tp link is like a 
> large flash usb drive
> and is smaller.
> 
> Martin N
> 
> Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of  MiniDisc and amithlonopen 
> yahoo groups.

Your TP-Link solution must be a different model than mine, as my TP-Link model 
TL-MR3040 is a little larger than my WNCE2001-100NAR.  My TP-Link with it's 
built-in battery, is about the size of the older 80gb iPod and the NetGear is 
just a bit smaller than that.

David
aka AmigaDave

1.67GHz G4 PowerBook running MacOSX10.5.8 & MorphOS3.1

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Re: upgrading PPC G4

[spilrules]

Thanks to all for the advice!  He is not using OS 9 at all, just OSX 
10.4.11 so all should go smoothly then as I had hoped for!
Tom


Em quinta-feira, 13 de setembro de 2012 09h14min34s UTC-7, Valter Viglietti 
escreveu:
>
> Il giorno 13-09-2012 17:45, spilrules ha scritto: 
>
> > I am currently living outside of the US and had set up my Father with a 
> G4 
> > Tower 500mhz dual processor 
>
> > I also found a 1.25ghz Dual Processor G4 MDD machine for a bit more 
> money 
> > and was thinking that this would be a much faster machine for him. 
> It would be way faster, but very likely it will be louder as well (MDDs 
> are 
> known for being the loudest PowerMacs, I think) - unless the original fans 
> have been upgraded. 
>
> > If we just swap out his HD from the now dead 
> > 500mhz DP (running OS 10.4.11), will it work ok in this 1.25ghz DP model 
> > without having to do anything else? 
> AFAIK, it should work run just fine. 
> I moved my OSX installation several times, from G3 to G4, and even from G4 
> to G5, and I had a little trouble just with some peripherals (I had to 
> reinstall drivers). 
> Going from G4 to G4 should be as smooth as silk. 
>
> If your dad were using OS9, though, there could be issues: OS9 (and 
> previous) installs machine-specific components (while OSX installs 
> everything it might need). 
>
>

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Re: upgrading PPC G4

[Valter Prahlad]

Il giorno 13-09-2012 17:45, spilrules ha scritto:

> I am currently living outside of the US and had set up my Father with a G4
> Tower 500mhz dual processor

> I also found a 1.25ghz Dual Processor G4 MDD machine for a bit more money
> and was thinking that this would be a much faster machine for him.
It would be way faster, but very likely it will be louder as well (MDDs are
known for being the loudest PowerMacs, I think) - unless the original fans
have been upgraded.

> If we just swap out his HD from the now dead
> 500mhz DP (running OS 10.4.11), will it work ok in this 1.25ghz DP model
> without having to do anything else?
AFAIK, it should work run just fine.
I moved my OSX installation several times, from G3 to G4, and even from G4
to G5, and I had a little trouble just with some peripherals (I had to
reinstall drivers).
Going from G4 to G4 should be as smooth as silk.

If your dad were using OS9, though, there could be issues: OS9 (and
previous) installs machine-specific components (while OSX installs
everything it might need).

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Re: upgrading PPC G4

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:45 AM, spilrules wrote:

> While looking at used machines, I also found a 1.25ghz Dual Processor G4 MDD 
> machine for a bit more money and was thinking that this would be a much 
> faster machine for him.  If we just swap out his HD from the now dead 500mhz 
> DP (running OS 10.4.11), will it work ok in this 1.25ghz DP model without 
> having to do anything else?  My limited experience with these machines tells 
> me it would, but I would prefer an expert opinion before I send him out to 
> buy a used machine with the hopes of quickly getting him back up and running. 
> He lives in a small town in AZ and his computer guy is PC only and will not 
> be of much help with a Mac, so I will have to help out with the HD changes 
> which I am sure he will have no problem doing, but if programming is involved 
> we may all be out of luck.  Thanks to all for any help given!

Yeah that should work without a problem, I've done that kind of swap several 
times.


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upgrading PPC G4

[spilrules]

I am currently living outside of the US and had set up my Father with a G4 
Tower 500mhz dual processor machine that he has been using trouble free for 
several years now. He contacted me the other day saying that the machine 
does not power on at all. I walked him through several steps and I believe 
that the power supply has given out. I have found another used machine just 
like his that I could get for him within his area for much less than it 
would cost to buy and replace the power supply on this machine, and was 
planning to have him get this machine and have his computer guy swap out 
his hard drive into the used machine to get him up and running quickly.  
While looking at used machines, I also found a 1.25ghz Dual Processor G4 
MDD machine for a bit more money and was thinking that this would be a much 
faster machine for him.  If we just swap out his HD from the now dead 
500mhz DP (running OS 10.4.11), will it work ok in this 1.25ghz DP model 
without having to do anything else?  My limited experience with these 
machines tells me it would, but I would prefer an expert opinion before I 
send him out to buy a used machine with the hopes of quickly getting him 
back up and running. He lives in a small town in AZ and his computer guy is 
PC only and will not be of much help with a Mac, so I will have to help out 
with the HD changes which I am sure he will have no problem doing, but if 
programming is involved we may all be out of luck.  Thanks to all for any 
help given!
Tom

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Re: Yesterday, PPC support on current Apple software was dropped

[Alex Sciortino]

Darn. Unfortunately this means my primary system will be upgraded to a Mac Pro. 
Oh well it will be a nice upgrade from a QS 2002. 

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Yesterday, PPC support on current Apple software was dropped

[Angel]

Hi all!

I discovered this group on LEM, excellent site by the way, and I'm anxious 
to participate. I'm quite a fan of Apple PPC based computers: currently I 
own a PowerBook G4 1,4 GHz (BT1.1) and a maxed-out badass Power Mac G5 
PCI-X 2x2.0. My name is Ángel, but you can write it Angel anyway, and I'm 
from Albacete, a small town in Spain.

Yesterday, with news of a new iTunes version on the way and a quiet update 
to bring support to the iTunes 10 line for IOS 6 devices my fears were 
confirmed. iTunes 10.7 is Intel-only binary, so the last grand Apple piece 
of software drops support for the PPC Macs out there (and Leopard). It 
isn't that bad, after 7 years of the last PPC model released, but it's sad 
anyway.

Are any of you planning to hold the IOS6 upgrade for your phones 
considering this? I own a MacBook 2006 also, so I think I'll have to move 
my library in order to upgrade.

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Re: G-5 Hardware and OS

[Alex Sciortino]

It will work fine

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Re: external wireless device for mac mini

[Martin N]

Hello,

At 21:35 07/09/2012, you wrote:
I recently relocated my MacMini and even though I have the Wireless 
and BlueTooth modules inside my MacMini, I can't connect to my 
Wireless LAN from my MacMini, so I have been using one of my two 
external wireless solutions to connect to my WLAN.  The wireless 
solution I am using right now is my TP-Link model TL-MR3040.  It is 
more expensive than other solutions, as it has many different modes 
of operation and it's own built-in battery.  I bought to use with my 
G4 PowerBook's while running MorphOS3.1 instead of MacOSX, as 
MorphOS3...1 doesn't have a driver for the PB internal wireless 
AirPort Extreme yet.  The TP-Link having it's own battery gives me 
wireless internet for my PowerBook's without using any power from 
the PB battery, so this gives me more portable computing time.  A 
cheaper solution is the NetGear WNCE2001-100NAR



I also have the netgear and TP Link solutions above which plug into 
the ethernet port.


The netgear is bigger but has a better interface while the tp link is 
like a large flash usb drive

and is smaller.

Martin N

Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of  MiniDisc and 
amithlonopen yahoo groups. 


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