Re: iMac G4 questions
Thanks for all the insight... now I'll have to check and see what GeForce it has!! ;-) This screen has plastic on the top as far as I can tell, the shame is all the pixels are nice and bright, only the top layer is scratched. Might just have to keep an eye out for dead iMacs with good screens. As for the hard disk, out of curiosity, does anyone know if OS X refuse to boot on SMART errors? My PCs never hesitate... maybe OS X takes the "safe route" and kernel panics. Ralph, this hard disk was pretty easy to get to: I just removed the motherboard, and the disks were right there in a caddy. See xlr8 your mac's page here: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/iMac_g4/imacg4_takeapart.html - it's helpful. Dan Ziegler -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iMac G4 questions
Hi there, I have recently bought an iMac G4 (iLamp) off craigslist-it's the original 17" model (800 MHz, SDRAM, 80 GB). When I bought it the girl told me, "I think it needs a Software Update." Well, turns out it needed a lot more than that. I plugged it in, hooked up a Pro keyboard and mouse, and waited for it to boot. About 45 seconds into the startup, I got a good old kernel panic. Starting up off my Tiger DVD resulted in endless spinning of the wheel, with DVD drive activity slowing up after a while. So I tried starting up OS X on the hard disk in verbose mode, and it panicked after a handful of IO errors. So I stuck a old 60 GB hard drive in and installed OS X 10.4 and now it works fine. But I was wondering why the old drive "failed". It wouldn't even start up off the OS X DVD to do a disk check! I took the original "failed" hard drive and stuck it in my Linux box, and ran Disk Utility (the Gnome app, it's similar to Apple's). Disk checking on "Macintosh HD" turned up clean, but the S.M.A.R.T. Status field said, "Drive has a few bad sectors." On scanning THAT, it told me the drive is about to fail. But I can use all of the files on Linux fine, such as the System folder, Users and such. I don't know if the S.M.A.R.T field will cause OS X to crash or what. Also the screen has a number of small scratches in the upper left corner. When a light color is displayed underneath them, the screen looks dirty. But the pixels themselves are bright and all work. So I was wondering, is it possible to buy a screen "top mat" or whatever you call it to replace the scratched one? Or remove the scratches. Thanks alot, Dan Ziegler P.S. The iMac I had been having trouble with has mysteriously fixed itself (for now). Thanks for your insight! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iMac G4 questions
Hi there, I have recently bought an iMac G4 (iLamp) off craigslist-it's the original 17" model (800 MHz, SDRAM, 80 GB). When I bought it the girl told me, "I think it needs a Software Update." Well, turns out it needed a lot more than that. I plugged it in, hooked up a Pro keyboard and mouse, and waited for it to boot. About 45 seconds into the startup, I got a good old kernel panic. Starting up off my Tiger DVD resulted in endless spinning of the wheel, with DVD drive activity slowing up after a while. So I tried starting up OS X on the hard disk in verbose mode, and it panicked after a handful of IO errors. So I stuck a old 60 GB hard drive in and installed OS X 10.4 and now it works fine. But I was wondering why the old drive "failed". It wouldn't even start up off the OS X DVD to do a disk check! I took the original "failed" hard drive and stuck it in my Linux box, and ran Disk Utility (the Gnome app, it's similar to Apple's). Disk checking on "Macintosh HD" turned up clean, but the S.M.A.R.T. Status field said, "Drive has a few bad sectors." On scanning THAT, it told me the drive is about to fail. But I can use all of the files on Linux fine, such as the System folder, Users and such. I don't know if the S.M.A.R.T field will cause OS X to crash or what. Also the screen has a number of small scratches in the upper left corner. When a light color is displayed underneath them, the screen looks dirty. But the pixels themselves are bright and all work. So I was wondering, is it possible to buy a screen "top mat" or whatever you call it to replace the scratched one? Thanks alot, Dan Ziegler P.S. The iMac I had been having trouble with has mysteriously fixed itself (for now). Thanks for your insight! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard on my iMac
I think I have found (at least one) culprit. Looking in the CrashReporter log, Process: DashboardClient [1171] ... Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0003ffc0 Crashed Thread: 0 Plus whenever I start Dashboard it triggers the whole speed dump problem. Also Bruce I think it needs RAM as well. With Safari and Firefox open with 4 tabs, mail open, and textedit, I am down to 18 MB of free RAM! So besides some more RAM what could be wrong w/ Dashboard? Thanks alot, Dan On Apr 11, 9:21 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Dan Ziegler wrote: > > >> A long time ago I had a similar thing happen when a USB device went flaky. > > That's possible - but the iMac is all stock HW - Apple kybd. and > > mouse, and no upgrades or other USB devices. Perhaps some other > > (internal) HW? What do you suggest I check? > > The USB device in my case was the hub in an Apple Display. The system log > was full of USB errors. > -- > Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard on my iMac
Hello all, Thanks alot for all your insight. This just in: DashboardClient reported an error (send to apple, etc.) twice today. Don't know if that's related. BTW I should be able to look at the console and Activity monitor on Wed., so I'll keep you posted. Bruce, > A long time ago I had a similar thing happen when a USB device went flaky. That's possible - but the iMac is all stock HW - Apple kybd. and mouse, and no upgrades or other USB devices. Perhaps some other (internal) HW? What do you suggest I check? Clark, > I finally fixed it by running Disk Repair which fixed a bad directory or > something such. That is also possible, lots of small files on the disc, I'll boot the Leopard DVD ASAP and try that. Thanks alot, Dan Ziegler -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard on my iMac
Well the RAM amount is possible, I know it needs more... but it has worked great for 1.5 years until about 2 weeks ago this started. (And will Dad want to spend $70, hmm...) This is really really really slow - I'm talking slower than my old Sawtooth, 10.4.11 with 384 MB! Maybe the install is old with age? I'd hate to have to do a clean install. Plus 10.6 doesn't work with some of our software, so... Other than those, anything else that could be bogging me down? Thanks, Dan On Apr 11, 1:34 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote: > > > April 2008 iMac Penryn > > 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo > > 1 GB 800 MHz DDR2 <<<<<<<<<< > Right there is part of your problem, most likely. 1GB RAM is far too low. I'd > kick that to 4 at least. > > <http://www.datamemorysystems.com/_apple_info/Apple_Aluminum_Intel_Cor...> > > Also if it is right at 45 minute intervals, something's happening every 45 > minutes to cause this problem. On my old RAM-starved Core Duo iMac, Time > Machine would do this, particularly if I was brave enough to be running a > Windows VM. > > I'll wager that kicking up the RAM to a reasonable amount will help. > > Also, upgrade that system posthaste to 10.6, that makes Intel systems run a > lot better. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Leopard on my iMac
Hi there, I have been having some intermittent problems lately with my family's iMac. About half the time you are using it, all the applications (Safari, the dock, the Finder, Firefox, Textedit, DVD Player) slow down to an abysmal crawl. Then about 45 minutes later it will function perfectly fine. This goes on at about 45 minute periods one way or another. This is a really bad slowdown - I was playing a DVD the other night, and it was skipping many seconds of video and audio intermittently. I don't have any idea what could be going on-there's not really anything out of the ordinary on this computer. The specs of the machine if it helps: April 2008 iMac Penryn 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo 1 GB 800 MHz DDR2 250 GB Disk (about 1/2 full) Leopard 10.5.8 w/all latest updates Thanks alot, Dan Ziegler -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DHCP Server??
Thanks for the links... they look helpful, I'll try messing around some more this weekend and get back to you. I am running OS 10.5.8 and Xcode 3.0, gcc is 4.01, make is 3.81. Thanks, Dan On Feb 15, 10:55 am, Bruce Johnson wrote: > I just downloaded dhcp-4.2.0-P2 and it compiled without a hitch under 10.6.6. > I believe I have the Developer Tools installed on my laptop running 10.5 so > I'll see if I can compile it there later (it's at home) > > There are mentions in the release notes about 'fixes to compilation in OS X > 10.5' > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DHCP Server??
int’ in declaration of ‘rr_class’ ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:142: warning: data definition has no type or storage class ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:143: error: syntax error before ‘ttl’ ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:143: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ in declaration of ‘ttl’ ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:143: warning: data definition has no type or storage class ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:144: error: syntax error before ‘rdlength’ ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:144: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ in declaration of ‘rdlength’ ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:144: warning: data definition has no type or storage class ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:145: error: syntax error before ‘*’ token ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:145: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ in declaration of ‘rdata’ ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:145: warning: data definition has no type or storage class ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:146: error: syntax error before ‘}’ token ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:146: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ in declaration of ‘ns_rr’ ../includes/arpa/nameser.h:146: warning: data definition has no type or storage class make[1]: *** [dst_support.o] Error 1 make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 There it is. On Feb 13, 10:25 pm, Clark Martin wrote: > On Feb 13, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Dan Ziegler wrote: > > > Yes I did both the ./configure and make steps. The build directory is > > "/ort/dhcp-4.2.0-P2" . I'm not sure what the errors mean it's throwing- > > should I post them? > > go for it. > > Clark Martin > Redwood City, CA, USA > Macintosh / Internet Consulting > > "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DHCP Server??
Yes I did both the ./configure and make steps. The build directory is "/ort/dhcp-4.2.0-P2" . I'm not sure what the errors mean it's throwing- should I post them? I'm not using Internet Sharing because I'm not multihomed - is there a way to use it on the same interface? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 12:35 am, Clark Martin wrote: > On Feb 12, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote: > > > Hello there, > > I have a question: I would like to run a DHCP server on an iMac > > running Leopard 10.5. I have tried building the ISC source code (I > > have Developer Tools installed) but it fails with errors. Does anyone > > have any experience building/running a DHCP server? Are there binaries > > somewhere for OS X? I don't want to have to install DarwinPorts. > > Hmm, it's been a while but I compiled and installed it without any difficulty > (IIRC). I did it on Tiger though. > > You did both the "./configure" and "make" steps right? > > Darwin Ports isn't that big a deal, I have it and MacPorts installed on some > machines and they mostly work well. > > Assuming you get it installed you might want to consider WebMin for setting > it up. I have both DHCP and BIND installed on my server and use WebMin to > configure them. It works very well. > > The other thing I did was set up /Library/StartupItems entries for both so > they'd start at boot time. > > Clark Martin > Redwood City, CA, USA > Macintosh / Internet Consulting > > "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
DHCP Server??
Hello there, I have a question: I would like to run a DHCP server on an iMac running Leopard 10.5. I have tried building the ISC source code (I have Developer Tools installed) but it fails with errors. Does anyone have any experience building/running a DHCP server? Are there binaries somewhere for OS X? I don't want to have to install DarwinPorts. Thanks, Dan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G4 Sawtooth - dual video
OK. Thanks for confirming that. I looked in the manual (I should've looked first!) and it says the same thing. I was wondering, where can I find information on how to flash PC video cards for this Mac? I have a couple AGP cards (GeForce 3Ti, Radeon 9200, etc.) that I would like to upgrade to. Thanks again, Dan On Jun 23, 9:30 pm, Chance Reecher wrote: > The Rage 128 does not support two monitors even though it has two > ports. I was trying to do this the ther day on my DA with a Rage 128. > There should be no problem with using a PCi card in addition to the > 128 AGP though. > > Chance > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Dan Ziegler wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > I have a 450 MHz PowerMac G4 Sawtooth running OS X 10.4.11 with a > > (stock?) ATI Rage 128 Pro 16 MB (AGP), and I was wondering if it is > > possible to use two monitors on this computer. There is a DVI port on > > the card, and a VGA port as well. I have never tried using multiple > > monitors until recently. I have a Dell 17" with a VGA input and > > another Dell UltraSharp 17" with a DVI input. I tried hooking both up > > to the computer, but only the DVI UltraSharp would display picture. > > The other display would stay black with the amber LED lit up. I tried > > looking in the Display system preferences, but could not find the > > monitors tab. I have run both monitors successfully on my PowerBook G4 > > 800 MHz as a second display. Also the VGA display works perfectly > > without any other monitor hooked up. > > > Another question I have out of curiosity is this. When I bought the > > system a few years back, it came with an ATI Rage (version unknown) > > PCI video card in one of the slots. When I first plugged it in and > > turned it on, I mistook the VGA port on the bottom PCI Rage for the > > main one higher up. I turned it on, and the output was corrupted > > (could hardly see what was going on). I took a closer look, saw the > > AGP card's port, and used that. It worked fine, so I just pulled the > > PCI card out and forgot about it. > > > This recent monitor issue has got me thinking: Is it possible that the > > second PCI video card could've worked with another monitor, bringing > > the maximum count to three? It's just a curious thought. > > > Thank you for any advice in advance. > > > Dan Ziegler > > Genoa, IL 60135 > > > -- > > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a > > group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a > > particular focus on Power Macs. > > The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our > > netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PowerMac G4 Sawtooth - dual video
Hello everyone, I have a 450 MHz PowerMac G4 Sawtooth running OS X 10.4.11 with a (stock?) ATI Rage 128 Pro 16 MB (AGP), and I was wondering if it is possible to use two monitors on this computer. There is a DVI port on the card, and a VGA port as well. I have never tried using multiple monitors until recently. I have a Dell 17" with a VGA input and another Dell UltraSharp 17" with a DVI input. I tried hooking both up to the computer, but only the DVI UltraSharp would display picture. The other display would stay black with the amber LED lit up. I tried looking in the Display system preferences, but could not find the monitors tab. I have run both monitors successfully on my PowerBook G4 800 MHz as a second display. Also the VGA display works perfectly without any other monitor hooked up. Another question I have out of curiosity is this. When I bought the system a few years back, it came with an ATI Rage (version unknown) PCI video card in one of the slots. When I first plugged it in and turned it on, I mistook the VGA port on the bottom PCI Rage for the main one higher up. I turned it on, and the output was corrupted (could hardly see what was going on). I took a closer look, saw the AGP card's port, and used that. It worked fine, so I just pulled the PCI card out and forgot about it. This recent monitor issue has got me thinking: Is it possible that the second PCI video card could've worked with another monitor, bringing the maximum count to three? It's just a curious thought. Thank you for any advice in advance. Dan Ziegler Genoa, IL 60135 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
