Re: Huge amount of bounced mail coming back from this list...
got about 5 yesterday and 40 more today.. same user trinettejohn...@fuse.net from as far back as May-December of last year. gus On Apr 19, 8:30 pm, Dan Palka turboda...@gmail.com wrote: I've received like 20 bounced emails today, some dating from years ago, from a user on this group trinettejohn...@fuse.net Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Dan ___ Dan Palka | INFO-MAC | w: info-mac.org | e: d...@info-mac.org | p: 312.857.6522 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RJ45 Aggravations
Pretty much that is how it is done.. MOST people use B for straight through and for crossover they use A on one end and B on the other end. The only thing I might see you having problems with is if your wire is solid or stranded and if the connector is made for the one you don't have. There are video's all over YouTube that have people showing how to put one of those ends on. Or you can go to a supply houses website and they will have directions on the proper way to put the end on. http://www.lanshack.com/make-cat5E.aspx Hope this helps. Gus. On Dec 13, 12:21 pm, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: I use the B setup. I always thought you were supposed the B setup for the straight through cables and one end A and the other B for a cross over cable. My problem is with the connections. I clip the wires down and from what I understand when you get a click and the excess wire falls off you have your connection. I have a little circuit tester which tests each pair in sequence. 12, 36, 45, and 78. If the little lights come on in sequence the cable is good. If they are not in sequence its wired wrong. If one or more of the lights doesn't come on there is not connection. My problem is the most I can get is three of the pairs. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. The wall connectors are a lot harder to get to work than male connectors. I've gone through an entire package of ten of these connectors and I can't get any of them to work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BW G3
I am probably not the best person to help you on the rev 1 boards. I know there were some issues with using the master/slave on the motherboards ide connectors. I believe you could only use one master on each channel. One channel was for the disk drive and the other was for the dvd/cd. As far as the keyboard. I noticed that a PC keyboard would not allow me to zap pram when i booted up. I had to use an apple keyboard in adb connector. I have replace my rev2 board with a yikes board and it only had usb now. The apple usb would allow me zap pram and allow me into the firmware where as the pc keyboard would not. I think it all depends on if the firmware recognizes the keyboard when it is plugged in. I have never tried putting a disk drive card inside a mac and tried to boot off of a drive attached to it. You would have to get the manufactures specs on the ide card and see if it is supported in allowing a boot from the card. You may have much more luck using the IDE connections on the main board and connecting your hard drive to them.. and temporarily removing the scsi card and IDE card until you have a working, booting machine. You should see some video on boot up even if it doesn't find a boot device. I have personally seen the bw pass the P.O.S.T. with the chime and still not boot because of a bad cpu. (I seriously doubt that is an issue in your machine. But since it can happen you should keep it in mind). I would make sure I had an apple keyboard, remove the two drive cards and zap the pram and see if you can get a CD or one of your system drives to boot off of the motherboards ide channel. Once you get it booting normally in minimal configuration, you can add the expansion cards one at a time and see how they work with your system. Hope this helps. Gus. On Dec 8, 4:56 pm, applewho queel...@yahoo.com wrote: I have BW G3, rev1, , it seems that the motherboard is good because when turned on the light come on on the motherboard and it chimes. It has a SCSI board installed on it, ATA/133 PCI card installed, and ati graphics card. There are 4 memory cards installed. Problem: HDs. I have a few HDs laying around the house that I would like to see if they work, they worked on the G3 at one time. I have transported the G3 across country and now am trying to figure out if I can use this machine while I save up for a G5 destop and take some of the pressure and time off my Macbook for video stuff. I want to know if it is worth my time and pocket to try to get the G3 working for a little bit of cash. I purchased a $6 usb keyboard online and am using a emachine monitor. I have tried hooking up the HDs to the PCI card and then booted but nothing, while the HDs light up, I get nothing on the monitor.PLs help, I have put OS9 in the CD tray and when installing pressed Cl to try and boot up to the CD but so far nothing. PLS help. is there any way to try to see if the drives will work. I do have external drives that I use with my laptop, one is a usb and the orther is a FW HD. both of these drives work with the laptop. But I have not tried to see if they work with the G3. Lost at home. :( -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB stick read only
I have a little san disk that plugs into an adapter that I use on my usb to store data. On my san disk there is a little white tab that you can move up and down that write protects it. I don't know the specifics of your device, but it wouldn't surprise me that it didn't have a write protect switch on it as well. On Nov 19, 1:24 pm, Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com wrote: What could be wrong -- and how do I fix it! -- if a USB stick is mounted as read only? I’m logged in with a non-limited account, and in the past, the stick could be written to just fine. I’m talking about a G4 digital audio here with 10.4.11, the USB stick is plugged into a powered hub, and I think it’s formatted FAT32. The feeling is that USB problems happen more often as my OS install becomes older; maybe some settings have been messed up? E.g. sometime, when I plug in a USB stick, the mouse suddenly stops working. Then I unplug the mouse and plug it into a different port (on the same hub) and it works again! Any insights? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Mactracker (http://www.mactracker.ca/) has a feature that lets you choose which mac you have and it tells you the software package that comes with it (the proper number on the install disk). I know it seems like you are backing up, but I think I would just double check and make sure you have the right restore disk for the imac before going down any other road. Hope this helps Gus. On Sep 9, 8:02 am, Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com wrote: This is what I have: iMac G5 Power Mac 8,1 Power PC G5 Install disk set Mac OS X 10.4 When I try to install the operating system I get the following message: This software cannot be installed on this computer. Why not? The hard drive has been zeroed. These are install disks for a Power PC iMac G5 unit. I have 4 PowerPC iMacs, as well as 2 Intel iMacs, and I am sure I did not grab the install disks for the Intel units. The disc says iMac G5 on the front of it. What could I possibly be doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need help with a disk problem
Not sure on the laptops, but on the power macs one place to look for your S.M.A.R.T. Status is under the apple menu, about this mac, more info, the HARDWARE section, ATA, clicking the drive on the right side of the window. the S.M.A.R.T. status will be displayed there. Good Luck Gus. On Aug 26, 11:35 am, John Ruschmeyer jrusc...@gmail.com wrote: I have a PowerBook G3 (Pismo, 500mhz, 1GB RAM) which has been running under 10.4 for some time. Recently, though, I've noticed some disk-related problems which I could use some help with. The first problem appeared during an update for Office 2004. Like most installers, it popped up a dialog that it would be running a program to detect a suitable installation disk. When it came to that point in the install, however, do disks were shown, greyed out or otherwise. I have attempted to repeat this installation, even going so far as to download a new copy of the update, with the same issue. The next problem came when running Apple's Software Update. Basically, the progress bar gets to about 25% and stops updating. I've allowed this to run for hours with no further progress. Finally, in an attempt at resolving the first two problems, I ran the Onyx utility. Onyx hangs, however, while determining the SMART status of the drive. In order to fix the problem, I've tried the typically recommended fix of booting from the Tiger Install DVD, running Disk Utility and doing a Repair Permissions. Although a lot of permissions were fixed, the problems persisted with the next reboot. Interesting, it may be my imagination, but it seemed to take Disk Utility a long time to identify my disk. At this point, I'm starting to lean toward a failing hard disk (40 GB Hitachi TravelStar), but I was wondering if anyone had any other advice or, at least, pointers to an error log I could check (dmesg shows nothing useful). Thanks. John image001.gif 1KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?
The Chime usually comes up pretty early in the P.O.S.T. Long before it goes out and checks for the system. I would start to wonder if there wasn't an audio issue You can try reseting the pram and listing for additional chimes and see if you here them.. I would suspect that if the original startup chime isn't heard, neither will be the ones for the pram reset... But the screen should turn off and on as you hold it down and it cycles through each reset. Do you have the system CD/DVD you could try to boot off of?? Gus. On Aug 26, 12:33 am, John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello group, I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to see if it will work. No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face. Not the mac face. Any ideas. I am not too hep on this stuff. If it doesn't have a fatal problem or such I would like to get it up and running. Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond. Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2) that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a ? I would guess might be an icon to indicate no file system ... perhaps? -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CCC image bootable?
When I replaced my boot drive with a larger one, I booted off the original drive, and cloned over to the larger one. There is a message that comes up, if you have set it up right, that says that the copy will be bootable.. Mine was. After the drive swap I noticed no difference in the operation of the system. I have only used CCC once so I am not as fluent as others on this list are with the program. But I can see no reason why it wouldn't be able to make a bootable backup, and you shouldn't have any trouble restoring it to the original. Sadly, the only way to be sure that everything works with the hardware you have chosen, is to actually do it. Best of luck. Gus On Aug 25, 10:35 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi all I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is bootable I see the option as a read only image so can that image be booted? Also can I restore a volume with it? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI graphics card for Yikes G$
I have put a Radeon 7000 in mine and i got a very slight bump, but it still isn't playable. The only solution i have found is to use something along the lines of Videobox and let the computer convert it into something that the machine can play. I have a 400 bumped to 450 G4 Yikes with 768 of memory. I haven't tried enabling the Quartz Extreme Patch because I am updated to 10.4.11 and I heard it stop working prior to that. I don't have any other PCI cards in my machine so even if I did enable the patch I wouldn't know if it would slow down my ata bus. I don't know how the bus's are laid out on this yikes board. I think.. THINK.. they went to two PCI bus's in the earlier G3 machines but they had scsi in them. If anyone does have a block diagram of the Yikes/G4 or BW/G3 block diagram of where all the buses are I would love to take a look.. I have goggled to no end trying to find them. Thanks!!! and Good luck on flash problem Hope you find a solution (short of tossing the G4 in heap and replacing it).. Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
That is true. But in this thread, the CPU in question is a 500 MHZ OWC G4. Looking at the OWC Site it doesn't seem these were shipped with special heat sink, the installation instructions say to use you old one, (in both the beige, the BW (which have a smaller heat-sink) than the system here (The G4 with the larger heat-sink). I saw this once before on an intel PC. The user opted to continue to use the computer after the CPU fan failed. At some point the chip stressed and stopped working. Even after replacing the fan the cpu could no longer operate at its rated speed but would operate at a lower one. I don't know why that eluded me when I was looking at this from the start. I should have done this first thing. Lower to the clock speed to the lowest the board would allow and see if I could get the video up. Thanks! Gus. On Aug 6, 4:42 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 8/6/10 1:48 PM, Gus wrote: The Short Answer: Yes a bad cpu can give you a good Power On Self Test Chime. What you do is keep downclocking the CPU till it eventually gives you video and boots. You may even have to go to the lowest setting your motherboard allows before it does gives video and boots. If a CPU has been heat stressed in the past, it may say that it is a 500 MHZ processor, but may work just long enough to pass the P.O.S.T. and give a chime, and then lock up (at its 500 MHZ settings). Lower clock speed = less heat = more likely to boot. It's not just a matter of heat. The chip may just not be able to run at a given speed regardless of how hot it gets doing it. One suggestion, keep dropping the clock speed till it boots and works okay... then drop it one more. You may be right on the edge of it working okay and any little thing could push it over such as temperature. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
The Short Answer: Yes a bad cpu can give you a good Power On Self Test Chime. What you do is keep downclocking the CPU till it eventually gives you video and boots. You may even have to go to the lowest setting your motherboard allows before it does gives video and boots. If a CPU has been heat stressed in the past, it may say that it is a 500 MHZ processor, but may work just long enough to pass the P.O.S.T. and give a chime, and then lock up (at its 500 MHZ settings). Lower clock speed = less heat = more likely to boot. (For the archive). Thanks all that helped with this problem. Gus. On Jul 20, 2:19 am, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: System: G4 Yikes with 400mhz Processor clocked to 450 / 750 mb memory. a PC keyboard hooked to the USB port. PC mouse hooked to the USB port. I got this processor from ebay. Says it is a 500 mhz G4. DId a one for one swap with the G4 on my Yikes board. (left jumpers at 450). Chime, But no video. No turn over to open firmware. (no cd boot, no disk activity at all) Cant zap pram (think it is because of the PC Keyboard) But should I need to? Swapped the 400 mhz processor back in, and I get video right away. Boot turns over to open firmware and up it comes. I am not changing any jumpers during the swap and I I have a no boot cpu and the original cpu that boots fine. STRONGLY SUSPECT I HAVE A BAD CPU. BUT!!! I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything. Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz g4, Still chimes, no video. Thanks so much you guys.. You have always been here when I have needed help!!! Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repair tiger disk from leopard?
I don't have a panther disk, So I thought I would just ask. Is the disk utility on panther the same version as is on Tiger? Can you run Tigers Disk Utility under Panther? Glad it worked out out for you! Gus. On Aug 4, 9:21 am, Mike Linnett mike.dogho...@googlemail.com wrote: On 4 Aug 2010, at 15:13, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 4, 4:02 am, Mike Linnett mike.dogho...@googlemail.com wrote: Howdy all, Is it advisable to use leopards disk utility to repair a drive with tiger installed on it, or is that likely to mess things up on the tiger volume? Backstory is that I'm visiting my grandmother who has an iMac g3 running tiger, and I thought I'd run through onyx's maintenance stuff while I'm here and it says to boot from the install disk to repair the hard drive, but I'm sans install disk, but do have my PowerBook with me, which is running leopard. I figured I'd boot the iMac into target disk mode and repair it from the PowerBook, but slightly concerned about the different os versions. On a hunch, I would download the Tiger version of OnyX to the PowerBook and use that to treat the iMac. And I would check to see if there is a difference between OnyX versions for G3/4/5 machines as opposed to Intel machines. Al Poulin Ahh well, I repaired the disk (twice, to be sure) from leopard, re-ran the tests and stuff and it all seems to be ok. From what I can see there's different versions of onyx based on which version of osx you're running, but that's about it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
Well I sprung for a mac keyboard. It is an ugly apple pro keyboard v 1.22 that feels like someone soaked i in bleach to get it clean. After pulling keys and putting them in the right locations I hooked it up and was able to boot the yikes board into open firmware with the original G4 400 MHZ Processor and I can Get the three chimes when I hold down the cmd opt PR. Putting the 500 Mhz Processor in the slot I was not able to get the dual or thrice chimes when holding down the cmd-opt PR nor was I able to boot this into Open Firmware. Still No video on boot-up. Just the one chime. I can only conclude that this PPC G4 is no good. Any last idea's now that I have the keyboard? Thanks for all that contributed. Gus. On Jul 20, 2:19 am, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: System: G4 Yikes with 400mhz Processor clocked to 450 / 750 mb memory. a PC keyboard hooked to the USB port. PC mouse hooked to the USB port. I got this processor from ebay. Says it is a 500 mhz G4. DId a one for one swap with the G4 on my Yikes board. (left jumpers at 450). Chime, But no video. No turn over to open firmware. (no cd boot, no disk activity at all) Cant zap pram (think it is because of the PC Keyboard) But should I need to? Swapped the 400 mhz processor back in, and I get video right away. Boot turns over to open firmware and up it comes. I am not changing any jumpers during the swap and I I have a no boot cpu and the original cpu that boots fine. STRONGLY SUSPECT I HAVE A BAD CPU. BUT!!! I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything. Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz g4, Still chimes, no video. Thanks so much you guys.. You have always been here when I have needed help!!! Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video
Don't really of a 'hack' exactly. I know on some sites you could do a alt - apple - a in safari and a list pops up. Often times you can navigate to the place where the where the flv video is and save it. Others have gotten the video out of the cache using file juicer and utils that get files from there. Not sure if that works on YouTube or not. some of those streaming video's can be a headache to dl. Gus On Jul 25, 10:02 am, Michael Emery mem...@texas.net wrote: Geke: I’d like to know a bit more about that standard Safari hack? Google download youtube video in safari. -- Michael Emery If you rub your mind against someone who is different, you come out better. -- John Hope Franklin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video
I have used that videobox.app to get some of the more elusive flash videos. It takes the time to convert them into other formats for those of us with mac's that seem to choke on the flash video. I will have to try that realplayer downloader and see how it does. Thanks (to the one that suggested that). Gus. On Jul 22, 6:43 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I want to DL this but nothing I have tried workshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iicrreXTauIhd=1 Safari -- I tried Cosmopod but it only sends me to the page to buy it (clicking 'Later does nothing but close that window) Firefox - DownloadHelper didn't do it DownThemAll! didn't do it Flashgot didn't work The DLs were only 0k when anything was downloaded So, how do I get this downloaded? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
See, this is the thing, a processor will run UNDER-CLOCKED better than it will OVER-CLOCKED. If I have a bootable system with a g4-450 mhz. Putting a 500 mhz processor in there without changing the jumper settings will only tell the 500 mhz processor to run at 450. Much like it tells the 400 processor that is in there to run at 450. For grins, I put a known bad 300 mhz g3 processor in there with no jumper settings change and it booted to the blue screen before it dumped. I did get the chime and video. So I really suspect this chip is bad even though the guy swears it came from a running system. Well, I bought a keyboard and mouse (apple brand) 10 days ago on ebay. I have sent the guy mail telling him his usb keyboard and mouse hasn't gotten here yet. Hopefully it is in the mail and will get here in the next day or so and I can see if the chip will reset pram and enter into open firmware. I will feel a lot better about it if it can do that. I looked on apples site to see if there were any firmware patches for the Yikes G4. I saw none for a G4 PCI computer. They were all for sawtooth and the such. There weren't any firmware hinderances in there to stop a 500 mhz chip from running in the yikes that I know about. Looking at all the upgrade sites I don't see any Yikes patches to allow a faster processor to be put in. They all seem to be plug and play. So I dunno what I am going to tell this guy. Wait for the keyboard and get more information I suppose. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
System: G4 Yikes with 400mhz Processor clocked to 450 / 750 mb memory. a PC keyboard hooked to the USB port. PC mouse hooked to the USB port. I got this processor from ebay. Says it is a 500 mhz G4. DId a one for one swap with the G4 on my Yikes board. (left jumpers at 450). Chime, But no video.No turn over to open firmware. (no cd boot, no disk activity at all) Cant zap pram (think it is because of the PC Keyboard) But should I need to? Swapped the 400 mhz processor back in, and I get video right away. Boot turns over to open firmware and up it comes. I am not changing any jumpers during the swap and I I have a no boot cpu and the original cpu that boots fine. STRONGLY SUSPECT I HAVE A BAD CPU. BUT!!! I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything. Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz g4, Still chimes, no video. Thanks so much you guys.. You have always been here when I have needed help!!! Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
On Jul 20, 4:11 am, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: On 20/7/10 08:19, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: BUT!!! I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything. Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz g4, Still chimes, no video No mention of the bus multipliers for the 100mhz bus - presumably the 450 cpu will have 4.5x and the 500 cpu will have 5x - or is that included with the system clock fiddling? Pete Right. I am using a chart I got from OWC that tells what the jumper settings should be for the different clock speeds. The bus speed and pci speed stays the same while you change the cpu multiples from x4, x4.5, x5.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
On Jul 20, 9:02 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:19 AM -0700 7/20/2010, Gus wrote: G4 Yikes with 400mhz Processor clocked to 450 / 750 mb memory. a PC keyboard hooked to the USB port. PC mouse hooked to the USB port. I got this processor from ebay. Says it is a 500 mhz G4. DId a one for one swap with the G4 on my Yikes board. (left jumpers at 450). Chime, But no video. Cant zap pram (think it is because of the PC Keyboard) But should I need to? With the new CPU installed... Unplug the system. Pull the PRAM battery. Wait a minute. Reinstall the battery. Wait about 30 secs then press the CUDA button ONCE. That will both reset the PRAM and properly reboot the power manager. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz g4, Still chimes, no video. Any time you make a change to the system, such as replacing the CPU or changing the clock speed, you need to reset the power manager (press and release the CUDA button ONCE). WRT the chime... That's the self-test telling you that the CPU, buses, and memory responded correctly. It has nothing to do with how the peripherals respond to the changed clock speeds. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Okay. Powered down. Pulled the known good cpu. (didn't change any clock settings). Put the known good cpu in. (secured heatsink ect) Removed the battery. Pressed cuda button (once) (for about three seconds). (the cuda button is still in the same place as the bw Yosemite board, closest to the battery. Gave it a power up. Still the same. Post chime the disk activity leds light for a few seconds, then go out first one, then the other. repeated steps above with the inclusion of a remove power cord and let it set for 10 mins. same results put the known good 450 in. booted machine, came here and wrote these findings. Anything else I should try before I tell this guy his cpu doesn't work. I want to be sure of this. (much appreciate your time in this) Gus -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
okay.. unpluged everything. removed everything from the usb bus but the keyboard and mouse. changed the chip. changed the jumper. removed the battery. Let it sit for 30 mins. pressed the cuda button for five seconds. put the battery back in. Chime. No Video. Turned it off. Pulled the 500 mhz chip and put the 400 mhz chip back in with jumper settings for a 450mhz. booted up fine. On Jul 20, 1:23 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Gus wrote: Anything else I should try before I tell this guy his cpu doesn't work. I want to be sure of this. Disconnect the power cord AND remove the PRAM battery, THEN press the CUDA. If you haven't changed the jumpers, it's likely that could be the problem? You need to move the jumper from the 4th position to the 3rd position: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G4ZONE/g4yikesoc/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
I only get the chime, It doesn't size the system or get into OF. No boot process at all starts. Thanks for your reply. Gus. On Jul 20, 4:20 pm, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: On 20/7/10 21:27, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: okay.. unpluged everything. removed everything from the usb bus but the keyboard and mouse. changed the chip. changed the jumper. removed the battery. Let it sit for 30 mins. pressed the cuda button for five seconds. put the battery back in. Chime. No Video. Turned it off. Pulled the 500 mhz chip and put the 400 mhz chip back in with jumper settings for a 450mhz. booted up fine. Have you tried booting it from an install disk? Is there just no video or do the hd's fail to spin up too? Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
What 100/10 NIC to use in Beige G3 to support OS9/OSX Tiger
I saw a few Apple 10/100 cards on ebay. I would think they would work without any problem in OS 9.2.2 but I am not sure about OS Tiger. My memory is vague on this, but wasn't there some issues with mixing apple TCP/IP card on a PC/Apple Network. I haven't had any problems with the onboard 10mb Ethernet that is on the Beige right now. Are there any 3rd party 100/10 vendors out there that still have the OS 9.2.2. system extensions on their website. I hope someone has been down this road before and can help me. I would appreciate any input!! Thanks! Gus. Beige Config: G3 processor @ 466mhz Memory 192 MB Scsi Boot to 9.2.2 with ATA OS X Tiger via Xpostfacto ATI 7200 video card (7000?) I forget the designation. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Burn .mkv file to DVD
I have always used VisualHub for files like that. It will make a VIDEO_TS folder that you just copy to a dvd. You can use any program really to write the DVD Disk. I use Dragon Burn. VisualHub is just a front end for ffmpeg as I recall. You have to download additional files to make it work. When I installed it on my mac, they were free (the additional files). I expect they are still. VisualHub was shareware program and was discontinued and another program took its place. FilmRedux. I have never used the replacement since the old one is still doing fine. I expect there have been some changes. You can check out the link: http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/VisualHub.dmg and it will bring you to the Teckspansion website and give you a link to FilmRedux. (I don't know if it is free or not now but it lives on SourceForge ( http://transcoderredux.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/transcoderredux/ Hope this helps. Gus. On Jun 23, 9:01 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All I have a movie that's a .mkv file 4.46 GBs I want to burn it to a DVD but I can't get Toast 10 to see it as an image I also tried Toast 8 and 6 still no cigar. Is this spometing I can do? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PowerMac G3- G4 Upgrade Aftermath.
Well the Yikes board slipped right into the BW. I did have to scrap they keyboard and mouse because they were ADB. I noticed on the Yikes board that there was a place for the connector to go. I don't know if putting the surface mount capacitors and swapping the plug would allow ADB operations? Wonder if anyone took the time to find out way back when? I have a USB keyboard. But it doesn't allow me to zap the pram or enter verbose mode. I haven't tried holding down the C key to see if it will boot off the CD. I have my doubts that it will. So.. It looks like I will have to buy an apple keyboard to get those features to work. Any suggestions? The old MB or Processor must have had something wrong with them. They were often giving me freezes and the multi-language page. I have been up with the Yikes board for 15 hours now without a glitch. When I get my esr meter constructed I will check out the yellow caps on the board. Who knows? The most common failure would occur when transferring files on the local network. For some reason a file over 800 meg would cause the G3 board to crash. (among other things). Thankfully that is gone now. Transfered 8 gig without a crash. I did transplant the memory and video card from the old board. Seems to be okay. Maybe the G3 processor can go into my old Beige G3 that is sitting next to it running Tiger. The yikes board and processor was cheap enough and very easy to swap. So all in all I think it was a worth while thing. Well thanks for all that contributed with Ideas. See ya on the web! Gus -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.
I have gone through the memory and replaced all of it. I have replaced the power supply when it went out. All that is left in the case is the G3 Zif, the Motherboard and the graphics card (reported as a ATY,Rage128y) So its down to one of those three.. the panics give nothing consistent and offer very little information. and the os9 lockups just freezes the box. I have everything removed from it but the graphics card and memory. I have seen graphics cards go bad and it usually give some sort of artifact on the screen prior to it locking up. (I know this isn't ALWAYS the case... but I feel pretty confident that the card is working okay.) I will probably find something to replace it with soon anyway. The G4 has the improved FPU and Altivec so hopefully I will get a slight bump in the exchange. Currently the system is running Tiger with the appropriate updates.. it has been happy with 9.2.2 (as well as Tiger).. it didn't do well with panther. On May 25, 10:38 am, Larry Stotler larrystot...@gmail.com wrote: On May 23, 7:07 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: Well, after doing some considering... I think I will try to put the Yikes board in the BW. I read around and ran across some poor soul that couldn't get his BW working after 2 Motherboard swaps and finally stuck a G3 in a Yikes board and put it in his Smurf case. The ONLY difference between a Yikes motherboard and a Smurf should be the deletion of the adb ports IIRC. This G3 hasn't been right since I got it used a few years back and it would be nice to see it run a full day without a lock up (os9) or a panic (OSX). Have you tried the RAM? I've had problems with my SDRAM macs that cleared up once I swapped RAM sticks. A bad RAM chip can cause all sorts of irriatating headaches. Try putting them in a PC and running memtest on them to see if they are ok. And even then, some Macs are just really finnicky about RAM. I'd start with that before I did too much else. Also, what version of the motherboard is it? The Rev 1's have a bad IDE controller on the 33Mhz bus. So, I would check the chip to see if it has a sticker on it with 402. It will be near the PCI slot that's opposite the RAM. You can gain stability(but lose some speed) with the other controller. It's only a 16.7Mhz one tho. And just maybe the graphics will run a bit quicker as well. What card are you using? And what version of Mac OS? 10.2 and older didn't make as much use of the graphics card for the desktop as 10.3 and newer. Thanks everyone for their help!!! No Problem. Why we're here. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: e: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?
OWC has one.. heard it was better than other.. I never tried any of them so I can't say http://eshop.macsales.com/Tech/FTP/newertech/BWG4Enabler.hqx -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.
On May 22, 7:16 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On May 22, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Gus wrote: I was directed to a web site that pointed out that you had to hobble the bus speed on the G3 in order to use the Yikes G4 processor in it. Please cite the site. Both are 100MHz machines. The only upgrades to the BW that hobble the bus speed are the very fast (800-1GHz) G3s, iirc. Once you update the firmware to accept a G4, it should almost be a drop in. It was the PowerLogix site someone directed me to. http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/accelerators/PowerLogix/PowerForce-ZIF/ In light of this it would make more sense to either: Put the entire Yikes MotherBoard in the G3. I don't think it is a drop in. They do look exceptionally similar. I am just not sure if the back plastic will pose a problem. Thing is the mb in the g3 is twitchy anyway and needs replacement or the whole thing needs to be thrown in the trash. I am not a big utube user to begin with and mostly just do text processing and cd burning with it. I know toast likes the g4 and I have noticed many tiger apps that are requiring a g4 or better to work. At present I can get a yikes MB and processor fairly inexpensively. But I don't want to have this thing half torn apart only to realize the MB back side cant accommodate the plastic. Or Skip the whole upgrade process and invest in a low cost G4 computer all together. There are many G4s available for $120 and under on eBay, and better deals can be had on the swap list. I just saw a 1.25GHz Mirror Drive Door on ebay for $120 shipped. I noticed the Yikes didn't have a ADB Bus so I would have to replace my keyboard and mouse (which I really like). But I can learn to live without Basically, any USB KB and Mouse will work with a G4 Mac. I am currently using (please forgive me) a Dell KB and MS wireless mouse with my DA. No issues at all. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?
Why did the bus Speed have to be reduced? I thought the yikes had a 100 mhz bus speed??? This is disconcerting. On May 22, 12:15 pm, Peter Haas peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: On May 22, 2010, at 9:23 AM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: The patch from any Vendor should work... Personally I prefer the NewerTech one (found it off a link from OWC's support page) which worked well for me when I did the same upgrade. I also used the patch from OWC in order to transplant Yikes! G4 processors to two of my BW G3s. The Yikes! processors came from LEM. No loss of speed (reduction in bus speed from 100 MHz to 66 MHz) when using Yikes! processors. The same patch is necessary no matter which ZIF is used (Apple or third-party), as this patch removes a block which prevents the BW ROM from supporting a G4 (any G4). Alas, although by two BWs now were effectively G4s, and could use the then-new (to me) applications which required a G4, the G4-ed BWs proved to be too slow for my needs, and I almost immediately thereafter went to Digital Audio G4s, which I obtained as surplus property from one of our nation's National Labs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.
I was directed to a web site that pointed out that you had to hobble the bus speed on the G3 in order to use the Yikes G4 processor in it. In light of this it would make more sense to either: Put the entire Yikes MotherBoard in the G3. Or Skip the whole upgrade process and invest in a low cost G4 computer all together. Are there any drawbacks to using a yikes board in a BW G3 Case? I would think the power supply would be compatible. I noticed the Yikes didn't have a ADB Bus so I would have to replace my keyboard and mouse (which I really like). But I can learn to live without. Thanks for your time on this. Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?
I am considering putting a G4 zif into my G3 BW. I saw on some upgrade sites that a software patch (ROM Patch) was needed. Depending on which card was installed each vendor had its own patch. If I happen to find a zif from a G4 Yikes, would I still need a rom patch? Would one from the third party sites work? Any advice from anyone that has done this type of upgrade would be appreciated. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 not booting from CD!
If I recall properly, adding the VRAM gave more color options for my beige G3. When I added the Radon 7000 to run Tiger I did have to install a fan blowing across the video card to keep it from over heating. It would be fair to say that I have the desktop 266 (not the tower) so it takes those low profile simms. I have the standard size simms in it so I have the case off and top part slightly open so the simms don't have any weight on them. I am certain this has totally messed up the designers airflow through the mac and is most likely the cause of the video card over heating. But when I want to run an application for days on end without any consideration, I start it on the old Beige G3 and turn the monitor off and forget about it. It shares its files and does it job. And if I want to fire up the old scsi flat bed scanner I reboot to 9.2 and I can scan and use my old apple laserwriter printer to print it out. I don't know if that toner cart will ever empty grin. Plus running the A10 simulator games never seem to get old. Good Luck with your (new to you) beige!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari taking a long time to load web page after restart.
Safari started acting up again.. I trashed the prefs and reset the homepage.. Still sitting there without loading. Any good lightweight RELIABLE web browsers out there? I tried firefox, it seems to have a big problem keeping its links in order. I drag a bookmark and next time i visit it it has changed its web address.. really weird stuff. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Safari taking a long time to load web page after restart.
BW G3 400 MHZ OS 10.4.11 768MB 5 Gig free on start up drive. Safari Version 4.0.4 (4531.21.10) After a restart, It takes Safari 3 sometimes 4 mins after I start it and the screen pops up for a web page to load. At first I thought it was the web services not loading because I couldn't even browse to my router or modem. I then noticed all other web services started right up. FTP, SSH, and Remote access. I started firefox while safari was still sitting there with its animated loading arrow going and it loaded, then loaded the same web page I was trying to load with safari. After the page loaded in firefox, About 40 seconds later the page finally loaded in Safari. All other subsequent web pages load right away. I can quit safari and start it back up and it loads pages right away. I have a twitchy processor or motherboard so restarts can be fairly common on any given day. Sometimes it will go all day without restarting. Then the next.. It will crash quite frequently. I doubt this has anything to do with the safari, in fact, I am not even sure when the safari problem started. (possibly on an update). I believe I am running the latest version of Safari for the G3 OSX. 4.11. I have installed all the latest updates for Tiger. Suggestions on how to troubleshoot, or anyone with knowledge if this is a known problem, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all for your help!!! Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: File transfer not happening
Dan, what is the difference between using cp and ditto when transferring large amounts of files like the OP is doing? On Mar 27, 1:29 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:12 AM -0700 3/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:32 AM -0700 3/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote: I'm trying to transfer DVD images fro a 1TB drive to a new 2TB drive the size of the transfer is about 560 GB i've only been able to move about 235 GB and a lot of the other files choke with a finder error, I'm sure the files are OK because they play?? Finder chokes on complicated tasks. Use CCC or ditto instead. Check your system and console logs - could be that Finder is choking because of some sort of hard error on the drive. I really wish I knew what to look for in the Console and System logs. Can you give me a hint? Error messages citing the HD during the time you were doing the copy. Could be any of a bazillion things, depending on the type of failure. When you start having these types of problems... Launch Console and view the system log. Hide it. When the problem occurs, bring Console forward and take a look at what's new in the window. Use the Clear and Mark buttons freely -- they put time stamps into the window, so you can tell what's new more easily. Everything in Console is read-only - so you're not going to damage any logs etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: DL DVD burning
I had a lot of problems like that when I first started out. What finally cured it was taking the TS_VIDEO folder out of the disk image and leaving it in a folder on the disk drive. Ditching toast for Dragon Burn NTI and Writing at the lowest speed the software would let me. Also, seemed when I put those paper labels on the disk it wouldn't last as long. Call it voodoo, cause it make no sense how a paper label could make any difference?? Well, I have had good burns since I started doing it that way and I just use those memorex disc you get at the walmart. It would also be a good idea to make sure you have enough free space on your startup drive, or what ever drive your burner uses for cache memory. Good Luck Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Beige Desktop Ram Question
I was considering upgrading my beige mac memory to its max and referenced Mactracker for the specifications. It says that the max memory is 192MB (apple) and 768mb (actual). I am not sure I understand what that means. What is the maximum ram you can put into the beige G3 Desktop? On a related note. It would seem that the PC-66 ram would have gone down in price considerably since I bought the computer new. Anyone got a good source for either PC-66 or PC-100 that would run in this Macintosh? Any other practical tips I should know before proceeding? Thank you, Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
It is a tad slow.. But what I am using it for it not that processor intensive, however it does require the memory to run properly. Seems it spends most of its time scrolling out to virtual, finally starts thrashing, and then requires a hard reset. :( So tiger with 192 mb doesn't get it done.. lol Gonna have to get a bit more memory in there for what I am doing. On Feb 9, 1:59 pm, Gorka L Martinez Mezo g...@gmx.net wrote: 768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66, PC100, or PC133 SDRAM DIMM. The 233Mhz Beige G3 desktop I recently resurrected (by simply changing the PRAM battery!) has one 256, one 128 and one 32mb DIMMs since at least 2005 (when it was used for the last time). I have two others 256Mb DIMMs I plan to use as soon has I have time again to tinker with this old machine. BTW, I found it SLOW. It`s running Mac OS 9,1 and has one 40Mb IBM DeathStar HD built in 2001 replacing the original 4Mb unit supplied with the machine. Gorka from Spain -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
Thanks for tips!! On Feb 9, 1:26 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Gus wrote: What is the maximum ram you can put into the beige G3 Desktop? 768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66, PC100, or PC133 SDRAM DIMM. Low-density means chips on both sides of the module, meaning 16 chips total, 8 on each side; rather than 8 or 4 chips on only one side, which is high-density. If you use high-density it will only be recognized as half the size (if it recognizes at all, some doesn't). I've never heard of anyone using high-density 512 MB sticks to max out a Beige, but I suppose it's possible? Get low- density if at all possible. Most sellers know about the difference, OWC is good about the distinction, but ANY low-density should work, it's just that most available now is high-density. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MacMini G4 Cannot get out of SAFE mode
In addition to the other suggestions, I would start out with a file/ disk check/repair using the diskutil. You can access it by booting up on the cd boot rom for your system. Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Camino mucho problema
I am (at the moment) using firefox. When I clicked the link Quicktime Opened with a video clip. Under peferences in Firefox, I have wmv (windows media file) set to Flip4Mac and to open in Quicktime. From this It would seem you are having codec problems (not being loaded or misdirected in your preferences). macupdate has flip4mac here. http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/flip4mac.mspx You can also go to microsofts website and get it. Put it in the google web search and it will come up. Not sure how camino handles plugin's, but I bet there is a preference for them. Should just be a matter of directing the content to the proper plugin or application. Good Luck!!! On Dec 24, 10:45 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi all I recently started using Camino as my main browser. I really like it over Safari However I'm getting an annoying glitch on some media items that I try to open This is an example http://release.theplatform.com/content.select?pid=5mCzgDf_lCZ3uKBDkKL... When I click this in the mail that was sent to me the Camino browser gets stuck, just flashes forever until I quit Camino. Even if I try to open in Safari it goes to Camino and seizes. Any ideas? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA 25 kids all named Mac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?
do you have to have some sorta rom patch?? to allow the BW G3 to run one of these drop in cpu's? I have this BW and a Beige g3 that need that extra little pick me up and was thinking of a cpu upgrade, if inexpensive enough and compatible.. thanks Gus On Dec 15, 8:20 pm, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: On Dec 15, 12:51 pm, Bruce Godfrey bro...@verizon.net wrote: So, what is the fastest G4 zif upgrade that was made which could be used in a BW G3? Seems like a 1GHz G4 zif would be the ultimate solution. I recently saw a dual 400-500MHz G4 zif go for about $170 on E-Bay. Was a dumb not to bid on it? Not necessarily the fastest but one of the most available and reliable upgrades is a Sonnet 500 MHz G4 ZIF. I've found them for under $50 used, I have them in a beige G3, B W G3 and a Yikes G4. They run 10.4.11 very well, especially when the RAM is maxed out. I also have a Yikes with an OWC 533 MHz G4 that's been running daily for more than 5 years, but those are just about impossible to find today. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 problems
its been awhile since i worked with os9. but if i recall the bomb screen came with an error (typically a bus error in my case). Since your down hard any ways, i would pull the pci and personality card and blow it out with some LP air. Leave the pci cards out and give the personality card a good reseat. if your not getting any sound you may have to reseat the personality card a couple of time. i know mine is kinda touchy. If there is a Cuda switch give it a press once you get the personality card and one stic of ram installed. You can use the CMD-OPT-P,R to reset the pram. Devices on the scsi bus can cause that bomb screen too. so shorten your scsi to the boot device or remove the scsi cable all together if your using an internal (IDE) drive to boot with. If your boot device is scsi you can remove the cable and try booting off the os 9 install cd to see if it comes up. also remember to try and boot with all extensions off to maybe give a clue if it is a bus error. the shift key after power up should do that. hope this helps and good luck. report back any results, i am sure someone is better at this than i am that can give additional ideas. Gus -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicktime for classic
it might download as a binhex file. you can use stuffit under os x to convert it to the smi file and run the install from classic. On Dec 5, 12:19 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: When I launch Classic on my G4, I get a reminder from OS X that the version of QT that is in my OS 9 System Folder is not recommended and that I should install version 6.03 instead. I rebooted into OS 9 and ran Software Update. No new version of QT here, but I did update to 9.2.2. Question: What is the procedure for updating Classic? How do I get QT installed on my OS 9 System Folder? Here's an Apple link for where it can be downloaded:http://support.apple.com/downloads/QuickTime_6_0_3_for_Mac I believe the installer runs under OS X. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Backward compatibility
I just want to thank all of you who responded. I should have checked the archive before posting my question. I read about it on the wikipedia, but I just wanted to know of some one who actually TRIED it. again, thanks to all!!! Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB Backward compatibility
I have a G3 BW with USB 1.0. When they say that USB is backwards compatible, does that mean a USB 2.0 device will work on a 1.0 interface, or does that only mean a USB 1.0 Device will work on a USB 2.0 Interface. I was thinking of getting one of those SD card readers for my BW and swap it between my dads PC. (I don't think it will make my mac sick ha ha).. Anyways. Has anyone tried a USB 2.0 device on a BW G3 1.0 Interface and gotten it to work? Thanks!!! Course they do say that the devices work for mac os 9 and up, I would think that the only machines that could run OS 9 natively only came with usb 1.0, unless you put some sort of PCI adapter card for USB 2.0 in there??? Your thoughts are appreciated!!! Gus -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
As it happens, I found out how to make this happen in the iMac. the G4 has ”windows sharing among the options, the iMac does not. You have to dig to find out how to do that. I thought the sharing options had more to do with the OS version of the software more so than the platform you are running. my G3 BW 10.4.11 has windows sharing and personal file sharing as options... if the imac was running 10.4.11 would the same apply?? thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OCR Software?
ditto on the omni page pro for X. you can get those for cheap on the swap list. On Nov 16, 1:35 pm, Ross olfec...@digizip.com wrote: On Nov 16, 9:45 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a free or very inexpensive decent OCR software package, that can pull text out of jpg files? Pref that runs on Tiger. Microsoft Office Document Imaging can do it, so can Vuescan. Convert the files to TIFF format, and use Vuescan to OCR the files. Free if you already own Office or Vuescan, which many people do since the introduction of Panther and Tiger caused problems for older scanner drivers. Otherwise, advert on the Swap List for a copy of Omnipage Pro for OS 10, or even OS 9. Close to free as it gets. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Classic on Ruby Red iMac
many people in this forum have mentioned loading OS 9.2.2 with netboot from apple. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120243#English They also mention removing the two netboot extensions before booting into classic. If you go to Google and go to this group list and type in a search for netboot, you will find the explanations by many who have gone this route to get the classic environment to load under OS X. From my understanding of the process, netboot will install under OS X. Hope this helps. On Nov 10, 6:59 pm, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I have a Ruby Red iMac that i am setting up for a 6 year old. It is G3, 400mhz. I installed a new hard drive and formatted it to 10.4, that's the OS her school runs on their iMacs.) I have also installed several learning games that need Classic. However, whenever I try to open one of these, I get a message that it cant find 9.2 to run Classic. I thought i had installed it during the 10.4 installation. Was there a separate option? How can i put in on the iMac now? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth video issues
On Oct 10, 6:16 pm, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Also, while I have your attention. Do you know of a DVD authoring software; avi to dvd that's even paid for, free would be great. One that does not take 39 hours to make a single dvd. Please don't mention toast to me. I don't know of an application that can speed up the encoding... The best solution is to get a faster computer of course.. but failing that, find an older mac that you can leave on for days at a time who's only job is to convert the avi files to DVD then transfer them over to your mac with the dvd burner and rip it. The last place I saw a copy of visual hub is in the newsgroups.. Good Luck!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: icons
http://www.blueskyheart.com/bsi.html Blueskyheart has mostly really cool desktops, but they also have a set of icons that are neat. Good Luck!! On Oct 7, 6:29 am, roger deghetto stink...@ptd.net wrote: im looking for sites that have high quality os x icons for the dock etc i know of deviantart and interfacelift anyone else have any others thanks in advance roger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: dvd authoring
I really like NTI Dragon Burn... Its pretty dumbed down so I can use it without knowing a lot about dvd and cd formats. Good Luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Minitower freezing at startup
On Oct 4, 4:18 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I turned the extentions off and it booted! I am going to try to find an older 9 installer. I have run 9.2 on several beiges with no problems though... On os 9 it lets you turn off extension until you find the one that causes the freeze on boot up. That would probably give you a pretty good hint as to what part of the process is messing up.. Good Luck!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: opening a sit.torrent download
I am wondering if you don't mean bit torrent?? I know vuze makes a client that is fairly stable under ox X 10.4. If you do mean the old .sit files go to version tracker and look up stuffit expander. I believe they have a free utility for unstuffing those files. Good Luck!! On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net wrote: Does anyone on this list know how to open a sit.torrent download? I am using an iMac power PC G4 with OSX 10.4.11. Thanks Wm. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
Right, I have a monitor that is on a Beige G3 that I want to connect to a VGA connector on a BW G3. So, I need to go from VGA to the four pin Apple Monitors. On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, J.M.P.Hissel jo...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 23-09-2009 01:26, Chance Reecher, cnrtechh...@gmail.com, wrote: Are we talking about the ADC port (digital) or the Apple monitor connector (analog)? There are simple little pin adapters for the latter that are very cheap. As for converting a VGA signal to ADC, a signal conversion has to occur, not just a connector adaption. I think there was an adapter made for this, but it cost over 250$. In that case, just get a DVI videocard and the Apple ADC to DVI adapter and save yourself at least 100$. Sorry, but I strongly believe you didn't understand Gus's question. He was talking about an old Mac monitor with DB-15 connection to a VGA-card in a Mac. See also my answer to his question. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
they had some 7000 mac drivers at the AMD site. http://www.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx On Sep 22, 2:41 pm, Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com wrote: Small correction: I just found a nice review of this card, which also says that the drivers come on a CD with the card. Look here:http://www.giantmike.com/reviews/radeon7000.html Good luck! Geke --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Okay... I must have been thinking ISA cards.. I remember now that the ISA cards are 32/64.. Least in my Blue and white. all the pictures are tiny and I cant really get a good look to see how wide it is. The review I was looking at says that it will work in a beige after 10.1.4. which will be fine. Anyways... Thanks for sticking with me as I loose my mind.. LOL Gus. On Sep 23, 7:40 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Gus wrote: Looking at the picture on the website. It looks like the Radeon 7000 card is an PCI 32 bit card. The Beige G3 has 16 bit PCI slots. Is the card dual 16/32 bit compatible? The Beige can use any Mac ROM PCI video card. The only cards that are incompatible are PCI cards with PC ROMs (PC terminology uses BIOS instead of ROM, but they're both simply the firmware stored on a flash EEPROM). Many of the PC ROM cards can be flashed to a Mac ROM so that they will work in a Mac. (see MacElite forums for ROMs guides). There is some difference between new world and old world Macs, such that the GeForce FX5200 PCI that will support QE and CI in a new world Mac such as the BW or Yikes will not support these in an old world Mac such as the Beige or a PPC PowerMac. The Beige will support QE using PCI Extreme 3.1 with any QE compatible card, which means all Mac ROM Radeon cards and some nVidia cards. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
wait.. the old four pin was RGB.. the monitor is a DB-15.. isn't that what they called them?? And the VGA/SVGA is what the Blue and White uses... Anyways.. I have a DB-15 Monitor and I want to hook it up to the VGA port of the BW. On Sep 23, 7:17 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: Right, I have a monitor that is on a Beige G3 that I want to connect to a VGA connector on a BW G3. So, I need to go from VGA to the four pin Apple Monitors. On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, J.M.P.Hissel jo...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 23-09-2009 01:26, Chance Reecher, cnrtechh...@gmail.com, wrote: Are we talking about the ADC port (digital) or the Apple monitor connector (analog)? There are simple little pin adapters for the latter that are very cheap. As for converting a VGA signal to ADC, a signal conversion has to occur, not just a connector adaption. I think there was an adapter made for this, but it cost over 250$. In that case, just get a DVI videocard and the Apple ADC to DVI adapter and save yourself at least 100$. Sorry, but I strongly believe you didn't understand Gus's question. He was talking about an old Mac monitor with DB-15 connection to a VGA-card in a Mac. See also my answer to his question. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
Sounds like what I need... email me.. gusr...@comcast.net On Sep 23, 8:29 pm, Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net wrote: On 23 Sep 2009, at 18:23:13 PDT, Gus wrote: wait.. the old four pin was RGB.. the monitor is a DB-15.. isn't that what they called them?? And the VGA/SVGA is what the Blue and White uses... Anyways.. I have a DB-15 Monitor and I want to hook it up to the VGA port of the BW. On Sep 23, 7:17 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: Right, I have a monitor that is on a Beige G3 that I want to connect to a VGA connector on a BW G3. So, I need to go from VGA to the four pin Apple Monitors. On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, J.M.P.Hissel jo...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 23-09-2009 01:26, Chance Reecher, cnrtechh...@gmail.com, wrote: Are we talking about the ADC port (digital) or the Apple monitor connector (analog)? There are simple little pin adapters for the latter that are very cheap. As for converting a VGA signal to ADC, a signal conversion has to occur, not just a connector adaption. I think there was an adapter made for this, but it cost over 250$. In that case, just get a DVI videocard and the Apple ADC to DVI adapter and save yourself at least 100$. Sorry, but I strongly believe you didn't understand Gus's question. He was talking about an old Mac monitor with DB-15 connection to a VGA- card in a Mac. See also my answer to his question. --- --- Well, then, as I said yesterday: I have a couple kicking around. I think they were intended to mate an Apple notebook with a VGA connector to an external Apple monitor. Kenhttp://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
Looking at ebay, it seems all that is advertised is the adapter to hook the old Beige computers up to VGA monitors. Nothing to hook the old DB-15 monitors to a HD-15 card. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
well if it is an agp card, will it work in my blue and white better than the ATI card that is in there now? Thanks! On Sep 21, 12:13 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: pdimage wrote: On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. The picture is PCI but the description says it's both PCI and AGP. Personally I avoid such vendors, they just don't know what they are talking about. But it's a little late for the buyer / OP. If it hasn't shipped the buyer could try clarifying it with the seller and canceling the sale if it's AGP. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Never mind, I just opened up my G3, its a half height PCI slot... oi vey... Well, lets hope the guy knows how to hold a camera straight and that is really a pci card and not an agp. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Yeah, I remember seeing the correction saying that it was a PCI card and not an AGP card... NEWAYS... Will I have to hunt down drivers for this if I put it my mac, or are they already on the install CD or on the Hard Drive? Not sure how that works. Thanks!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Oh I know what I wanted to ask.. If the ATI Rage card is a PCI card (though be a half height)(is that what they call it when its short? half height.. don't recall) anyways... Would I be better off using the Radeon card in my blue and white and shifting the ATI card over to the Beige G3 (never heard of anyone doing that...) Or does the ATI work better in the BW G3 than in the Beige G3? Never was much of a video card buff. And why do they make the video slot shorter than than the other PCI card slots? Isn't the PCI Bus a wired parallel bus where everything has to run at the same speed on the whole thing and only one card can talk at once? Name: ATY,Rage128y Type: display Bus: PCI Slot: J12 Vendor ID:0x1002 Device ID:0x5245 Subsystem Vendor ID: 0xb530 Subsystem ID: 0x0408 Revision ID: 0x Hardware Overview: Machine Name: PowerMacG3series Machine Model:PowerMac1,1 CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (2.2) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed:400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 768 MB Bus Speed:100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.1f4 Sorry to talk your ear off!! Gus. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
I saw a post awhile back where someone was trying to interface an old apple monitor to a newer VGA card. Was there any resolution to that? Does anyone make an adapter for the old monitors for use with the VGA standard sockets? I know they made adapters to go from the old mac computers to use with the VGA Monitors. Never seen where they went the other way around though. Thanks so much! Gus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Video Driver Question.
How (where) are the video drivers setup and located in OS X.4.11? I have 10.4.11 running on a desktop Beige G3 and when I did the update a program that I use (visual hub) causes the screen to go black. That didn't happen before I installed the updates. I was told that the processor causes the video to crash in these beige desktop systems and that if I restore the old video driver that was there before the update I would be able to get it to work again. Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. But I suspect I will have to install a driver for it as well. Any clue where I could find such an animal? Does it come standard on the OS X DVD? Will I have to reinstall OS X to get the driver to load? Or is the driver already on my hard drive ready to run once I install the card? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cursor in Find box problem
mine does that to.. no idea why... ??? On Aug 10, 1:01 am, dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au wrote: In the directory of a disk, I have a search box at the top that takes text. I am in Tiger latest. I have never been able to type something and then go back and insert the cursor at the beginning of the first character. The cursor happily goes anywhere else. Anyone had this experience and/or know any way of doing it besides inserting the text cursor after the first character and deleting back and doing whatever you want to do then and reinserting the former first char if need be? -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
On Jul 12, 12:37 am, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/10/09 9:11 PM, Nick Burman at nbur...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know how to make this Mac startup from a CDROM so I can install Jaguar? Hi Nick, Well, I am running here Mac OS 10.4 on a Beige G3 with 512MB RAM, and without graphics card (using the 6MB VRAM motherboard video port). snip 6. Before restarting in 10.2.8, I've removed the buggy ATI Driver ; I know I am going to come off sounding ignorant, but how do you remove the buggy ATI Driver out of 10.2.8? Thanks so much for you post .. I have been trying to figure out a way to get around the BLACK SCREEN on my Beige G3 under Tiger. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual Layed DVD Burner for an old G3.
First, Thanks to all who replied. I was looking at supported DVD's that the system said it could write: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D: Firmware Revision:1.21 Interconnect: ATAPI Burn Support: Yes (Unsupported) Profile Path: None Cache:2000 KB Reads DVD:Yes CD-Write: -R, -RW DVD-Write:-R, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO Media:No and I Just now noticed that it says +R DL under DVD Write. Do most DVD Players support +R DL or will I have problems like I did with the DVD +R vs the DVD -R DO they even make a DVD DL -R ? or did they just start out with the DVD DL +R? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dual Layed DVD Burner for an old G3.
I currently have a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D installed in my G3 BW. Hardware Overview: Machine Name:PowerMacG3series Machine Model:PowerMac1,1 CPU Type:PowerPC 750 (2.2) Number Of CPUs:1 CPU Speed:400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU):1 MB Memory:768 MB Bus Speed:100 MHz Boot ROM Version:1.1.1f4 MAC OS 10.4.11 I have been wanting to burn bigger DVDs (the dual layered I believe they are called) the 7.?? GB that are in my DVD Library. Does anyone have a recommendation to they Brand and Model of a Dual Layered DVD that would work in this old G3? Thanks so much for your input!! Gus. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Looking for recommendations for folder compare program
I need to tag my mp3's, what program have you found that does a good job of this on the mac? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
I know I am going to come off sounding ignorant, that said.. I thought that DOCSIS 3.0 was supose to be backward compatible with DOCSIS 2.0 both at the Cable Modem and the Cable modem termination system.?? anyways.. On Feb 26, 10:32 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:42 PM -0800 2/26/2009, Scott Fiore wrote: own a Motorola Surfboard 5220 modem (about 1 1/2 years old) that I connect to my Airport Express. I received a call from my internet provider this morning notifying me that because this modem is being discontinued by Motorola, it will soon stop working and I will need to buy or rent a new modem. Does this sound right? yes, and no. And welcome to the quandry posed by owning your own telecom gear instead of renting... Due to the way cable modems work, the ones on a provider's network *must* be fully supported by their CMTS (head end router). I think you'll find that your ToS states that they can tell you what make model modems are permitted. That being said... It's baloney that the modem is going to stop working just because Motorola is discontinuing that model. Total baloney. The truth is that the cable company simply no longer wants to support that model, so they're going to unprovision them (shut them down intentionally). Why? Two main reasons: 1) Evil company etc. 2) They're upgrading to DOCSIS 3.0, and your modem doesn't support that faster protocol. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clamshell issues??
if it has os9 on it, you can boot it up with the extensions disabled, (holding down the shift key) and disable extensions in groups until you get a clean boot, there may be one that is hanging the system. as far as osx, as was recommended by another on this topic, the verbose mode may also clue you in as to what is going wrong. Good Luck. On Feb 23, 6:02 pm, jonas ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 366MHZ firewire clamshell that i cheaply acquired. It will only startup in safe boot in 9.2, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4. It passed the apple hardware test and i put in a new ram chip but no change. -Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Finding a v.90 modem for a G3 B/W
Keyspan use to make a usb to serial port adapter for mac. I used it on my BW G3 before I got broadband and it worked quite well. Good Luck.. On Jan 15, 11:01 pm, Paul pper...@gmail.com wrote: I have a good US Robotics external V.90 modem that I'd like to be able to use with a G3 blue/white tower that doesn't have an internal modem. I've heard that USB external modems aren't too good, and I've heard that internal modems for this machine aren't easy/cheap to find. And as far as I know, despite the abundance of cheap PCI modems for PC's, there is no such thing for a Mac. Is there an adapter that converts some plug on the back of the G3 to a serial connection that can plug into the modem? And why is there no such thing as a PCI modem for a Mac? Why did Apple opt for a large collection of mutually incompatible internal modems? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Beige G3/Xpostfacto/OSX/Black Screen/Video Card Fix
I asked this question once before and I have lost the replies, I will be sure to copy them to a file and keep them somewhere safe if the people on the list would please be kind enough to answer the question again. I have a beige G3/266 and using xpostfacto I get the black screen when ever i try to run certain programs. I heard that this problem could be fixed by putting a video card in the Beige G3. I have an apple monitor on there now so if the video card has a PC type connector I will need some sort of adapter to make the monitor work. Could I first have your recommendations on video cards and if they need an adapter for my mac type monitor to work? I read this list every day with out fail and you guys are the best... Thanks in advanced!! Gus. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I add content after burn?
On the CD-R and DVD-R I believe if you are writing a multisession CD or DVD you can add files later... Typically they come up as an additional CD or DVD on the desktop... depending on how many sessions you have you will have an additional CD or DVD on the desktop. Once you close the CD or DVD you can't add sessions to it. On Dec 20, 1:48 pm, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to add files to a disk that's already burned? I thought I saw somewhere how you could do that, but not sure. Google came up with a blank. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DVD burner
I have been using a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D on my G3 BW.. it reads/ writes/burns CD-R +R and RW as well DVD-R +R and RW... its been a good little drive for the money. Hope this helps. On Dec 20, 5:45 pm, Mike Baker psufa...@yahoo.com wrote: Can anyone recommend an DVD/CD burner/player for a G4 Sawtooth running Mac OS X 10.2 and that has a non-working DVD/CD burner (it's not a Super Drive)? I would like to take the non-working player out and replace it with a Super Drive or something that does the same work as a Super Drive. If I have to go with an external one, I will, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Shut down or restart
adrunner.com wrote: Shut down or restart does not work with software. you can try shutting down or restarting using the terminal and seeing what error it gives.. just a thought. to shutdown and halt - $ sudo shutdown -h now or to restart $ sudo shutdown -r now it will ask you for your password, so just enter it when it ask. I hope this helps some.. Gus. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: showing process running in 10.4 via the terminal
well that top command is pretty neat... i noticed that the processes running went all the way to the end of the terminal screen.. any way to scroll down and see the rest of the printout? or pipe it to a text file? I am a novice unix user and I haven't quite got all the neat tips and tricks down as of yet. Thanks much for the Top command.. G. On Dec 1, 4:06 pm, Hunter Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/1 Gus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you open applications in the gui.. say textedit and mail and excel.. is there any way to view these process via the terminal... Run the command top is there a way to kill them via the terminal Run the command killall TextEdit.app or similar. Depending on your OS version, killall TextEdit might work as well as/instead of the previous command. or start them from the terminal? To start an app, try open /Applications/iTunes.app or similar. just curious.. Thanks for those that have helped in the past.. you guys are very smart and I learn al ot from you reading your postings every day. (Hope this isn't too far off topic) -- -hackmiester --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
showing process running in 10.4 via the terminal
If you open applications in the gui.. say textedit and mail and excel.. is there any way to view these process via the terminal... is there a way to kill them via the terminal or start them from the terminal? just curious.. Thanks for those that have helped in the past.. you guys are very smart and I learn al ot from you reading your postings every day. (Hope this isn't too far off topic) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do I run an old monitor on sawtooth.
try http://www.dougintosh.com/ware/vga_adapter/_d_VGA_adapter1.html On Nov 17, 1:57 am, Brian Christmas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day listers A while ago I posted a question about whether or not a monitor or radeon 7000 card would be defunct on my neighbors Sawtooth. I've just managed to get an old 21 monitor off a G3 tower to try, but the plugs are different. Is there a converter available to go from the Radeon to the monitor? Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Macs...what software should I have?
Well if you are going to be doing java, c++ ect... programing your going to need XCODE. You can download it at the developers website (you need an account, but its free so, just fill out the form) http://developer.apple.com/ Good Luck and welcome to the list!!! Gus On Sep 18, 11:02 am, LinuxMercedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, First of all, thank you to everyone who replied! Second--more detail. I'm a student, so anything helpful with making my work easier is good =]. I'll also be programming C++, Java, Ruby, Perl, etc. on this machine. And I'm interested in any software related to audio editing as well. Let me ask another question: what is the best free/opensource programmer's editor for Mac? I've used Scite on my Windows and Linux boxen, but haven't seen a download for OSX... Thanks! Nathan On Sep 18, 9:20 am, Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:30 PM, LinuxMercedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm new to macs (Ok, correction, I am new to OSX-running macs =]) and I just bought a MacBook. What apps/utilites/etc. are good for me to install? I'm just trying to track down important things to have that don't come with the 'book. The only system level utility you will need is something like MacJanitor or OnyX (both free). These run the maintenance scripts that OS X normally runs overnight if you leave your computer on 24/7. Running them more than once a month is normally overkill. Backup software- One option is Apple's Time Machine if you are using 10.5 and have an external HD bigger than your internal. The other option is a cloning program like SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner. Either of these will make a full, bootable copy of your HD, but will not allow you to recover a file you accidentally deleted 8 month ago. As to other software, what do you want to do? You will need different sets of programs to run a dental office, a recording studio, use it for gaming and internet playing, do your own home gene sequencing or to play around with robotics. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
