Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2012-01-03 Thread marimuthu
Vembu StoreGrid supports MAC OS. You can install StoreGrid client in your MAC OS machine and take the backup to online servers, which may be (WINDOWS,Linux). Vembu StoreGrid supports client install for the following MAC OS versions, 1. Mac OS X 10.3.x (Panther) and 10.4.x (Tiger) for PowerPcs 2.

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-30 Thread marimuthu
2. I also have been looking at online backup sites, in addition to a Online backup option is a good idea. With this option we can safe our data in online servers, instead in local external drives. It will more helpful during the machine disaster case. You can try Vembu StoreGrid online backup

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-30 Thread dianed143
Vembu doesnt support Macs at this time. Why did you post this on a Mac list?? Sent from my Verizon iPhone On Dec 30, 2011, at 3:00 AM, marimuthu marimuth...@gmail.com wrote: 2. I also have been looking at online backup sites, in addition to a Online backup option is a good idea. With this

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-21 Thread Edward Treen
On 20 Dec 2011, at 23:09, Dan wrote: At 4:25 PM -0500 12/20/2011, Bruce wrote: The safest place to keep your your backup is a safe deposit box at a bank. Nothing is safer than this. Perhaps. But I think you'd need to modify safety to include accessible and incorporate the risks thereof into

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-20 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:20 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: ... just make a CCC and put it in your car if you're concerned about theft, fire, or invasion:-) this is an interesting solution. don't temperature fluctuations cause problems with data loss? too hot, too cold? Anne Keller Smith Down to

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-20 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 20-12-2011 18:14, Anne Keller-Smith ha scritto: On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:20 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: ... just make a CCC and put it in your car if you're concerned about theft, fire, or invasion:-) this is an interesting solution. don't temperature fluctuations cause problems with

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-20 Thread Bruce
Placing the backup away from home can be an addition layer of safety... but you need to make sure you can get your data back. = Hello, The safest place to keep your your backup is a safe deposit box at a bank. Nothing is safer than this. Bruce Sugarberg -- You received this message

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-20 Thread Dan
At 4:25 PM -0500 12/20/2011, Bruce wrote: The safest place to keep your your backup is a safe deposit box at a bank. Nothing is safer than this. Perhaps. But I think you'd need to modify safety to include accessible and incorporate the risks thereof into your plan. Iffa you need access to

Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-07 Thread Aravind T
Yes, you are correct. Many of the online backup services like DropBox, iCloud, StoreGrid are storing their backup data to Amazon S3 like cloud storage, because of versatility of cloud storage. As the storage provider (like S3) provides security high availability of data storage, the service

Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-02 Thread Aravind T
What I meant of take care of all worries is, the user need not to worry about expanding the space requirement, powering the disk devices, replicating the data to different location etc., etc.,. Any way, if a user backups his data locally means, he can only setup one or atmost couple of data

Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Aravind T
There are lot of discussions on backup to external hard disk and not much in online storage. Yes, backup to external hard disk is easy, faster and simple. You can store as much data as you wish in your external disk. But, what if the external storage disk is corrupted/missing/? Or, what if

Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Dan
At 7:09 AM -0800 11/30/2011, Aravind T wrote: In this case, you can choose online backup service. You need not to bother about maintaining your backup data and storage. The backup service provider will take care of all worries. Instead of uploading all your system data, you can wisely choose

Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Martin N
Lo, At 15:56 01/12/2011, you wrote: At 7:09 AM -0800 11/30/2011, Aravind T wrote: In this case, you can choose online backup service. You need not to bother about maintaining your backup data and storage. The backup service provider will take care of all worries. Instead of uploading all your

Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Dan
At 5:32 PM + 12/1/2011, Martin N wrote: As I pointed out in the other fork of this thread... You CANNOT expect the cloud service provider to take care of all worries. In fact, all the providers are quite careful in their Terms of Service to NOT accept any responsibility for your data in

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread JohnV
Privacy / Convenience the balance has never been any different. Just cuz you think it's Remarkably Hip to be ABLE to post crap all over a globally-viewable grocery store bulletin board, does not change the fact that you are indeed knowingly posting your stuff all over a

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Dan wrote: Microsofts cloud service does not specify where the data resides and so there is concern that the American government can have access to your data under the patriot act oOo. yea. That's a whole other ball of wax! Many services (eg: Dropbox,

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread David W. Morris
On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Dan wrote: the Passport does not get recognized by the G4 PowerBook at all when plugged in to either of the USB ports. Explain please does not get recognized. Exactly what happens or doesn't happen. It is not recognized at all in any utility program or in

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread Jörg Duurkoop
Hi, I hate LaCie although some of their boxes look kinda slick - Porsche ;-) But they are not meant to be opened by the user and when the drive fails you have to return them in case of failure, that's a real PITA. I managed to open one of them with a kitchen knife but the controller died in the

Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread Bruce Ryan
It is not recognized at all in any utility program or in any way. It is like it does not exist at all. I will take your advice and try to connect it through a powered USB hub and see if it shows up that way. I just want to reformat it and use it as my TimeMachine backup drive and storage

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread Dan
At 5:20 AM -0800 11/29/2011, Jörg Duurkoop wrote: Aside - Jorg, please do not top post onto a message that is already bottom posted. It creates a convoluted spagetti-like mess, that requires the reader to scroll back and forth repeatedly, to regain context. Also, per the list's

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread Dan
At 10:24 PM -0800 11/28/2011, David W. Morris wrote: On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Dan wrote: the Passport does not get recognized by the G4 PowerBook at all when plugged in to either of the USB ports. Explain please does not get recognized. Exactly what happens or doesn't happen. It is

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread t...@io.com
On Nov 28, 7:57 am, Barry Levine barrylev...@norwoodlight.com wrote: Maxtor HD's in my experience have lasted pretty well also. Except for the 120 MB IDE drive back around 1992, which barely lived out its warranty period in about 30% of cases But every manufacturer produces one of those

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread t...@io.com
On Nov 28, 11:36 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: A better idea is to have several external HDs, and rotate them off site now and then.  The 'ole sock-drawer method. The drive docking stations which are now available, make this easy:

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread Dan
At 9:17 AM -0800 11/29/2011, t...@io.com wrote: A better idea is to have several external HDs, and rotate them off site now and then. The 'ole sock-drawer method. The drive docking stations which are now available, make this easy If you can control the use of the drives and the way

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 29, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Dan wrote: I don't trust burned optical media much. Me either. I had a commercial CD that I kept pristine. When it wouldn't read correctly, I held it up to the light and could see pinpoint holes large enough for tiny shafts of light to come through. Using

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-29 Thread Dan
At 12:38 PM -0600 11/29/2011, Kris Tilford wrote: On Nov 29, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Dan wrote: I don't trust burned optical media much. Me either. I had a commercial CD that I kept pristine. When it wouldn't read correctly, I held it up to the light and could see pinpoint holes large enough for

Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Bruce Ryan
Hi Jane 2. I also have been looking at online backup sites, in addition to a physical back up. Carbonite looks good to me, but I am not familiar with the pros and cons of online. I would value your opinion. pro - if your mac and backup become unavailable (as might happen if your house burns

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I have two 1TB hard drives that are in my main computer. One is a Hitachi, and the other is a Western Digital. Never had any problems with either of them. I've had them for more than a year, and the computer, including both hard drives are have been running 24/7. I would be a little worried about

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Jennings Campbell
I find it amazing, considering this is a Mac oriented group that no one mentioned LaCie drives. I have found them to be robust but a bit pricier. Just one person's experience is limited data, but I felt the omission to be glaring. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Bruce Ryan bruce.r...@mac.com

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread JohnCarmonne
On Nov 28, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Jennings Campbell wrote: I find it amazing, considering this is a Mac oriented group that no one mentioned LaCie drives. I have found them to be robust but a bit pricier. Just one person's experience is limited data, but I felt the omission to be glaring.

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Barry Levine
on 11/28/11 8:10 AM, JohnCarmonne at carmo...@aol.com wrote: LaCie doesn't make hard drives they only make the enclosure. IIRC, LaCie external HD's originally contained Quantum HD's - back in the day when 40MB and 80MB was alot, and SCSI was the standard! The drives we had lasted for years past

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/11/27 20:25, janespra...@comcast.net so eloquently wrote: 1. So, what brand would any of you suggest for an external drive? If you want a ready to go solution I recommend OWC's external drive enclosures. Personally I prefer to put my own together using enclosures that have Oxford

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/11/27 20:25, janespra...@comcast.net so eloquently wrote: 1. So, what brand would any of you suggest for an external drive? I should have mentioned that Western Digital's enterprise drives are warranted for 5 years and have a good reputation. They cost a bit more, but worth it in my

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Dan
At 5:06 AM -0500 11/28/2011, Jennings Campbell wrote: I find it amazing, considering this is a Mac oriented group that no one mentioned LaCie drives. I have found them to be robust but a bit pricier. Just one person's experience is limited data, but I felt the omission to be glaring. LaCie's

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Dan
At 3:25 AM + 11/28/2011, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I was watching Black Friday ads for an external 2tb drive for back ups. Offcie Max had a Seagate GoFlex 2tb for $75. But I was too late to get one. Then I started researching the Seagates online for prices. In my search, I came across

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 28-11-2011 14:57, Barry Levine ha scritto: IIRC, LaCie external HD's originally contained Quantum HD's - back in the day when 40MB and 80MB was alot, and SCSI was the standard! The drives we had lasted for years past their obsolescence, with daily use. Whereas I can't even keep

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread diane
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Jennings Campbell primal...@gmail.comwrote: I find it amazing, considering this is a Mac oriented group that no one mentioned LaCie drives. I have found them to be robust but a bit pricier. Just one person's experience is limited data, but I felt the omission

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread diane
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:06 AM -0500 11/28/2011, Jennings Campbell wrote: I find it amazing, considering this is a Mac oriented group that no one mentioned LaCie drives. I have found them to be robust but a bit pricier. Just one person's

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 28, 2011, at 2:19 PM, diane wrote: That's funny because I'd swear the 1.2gb drive I had in my old Apple External 1280 hard drive WAS a LaCie in an Apple case. I may have it kicking around here somewhere still too. La Cie has never made drives, only enclosures. Now, they, like Apple,

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Dan
At 4:19 PM -0500 11/28/2011, diane wrote: LaCie's boxes are great. Love 'em. But like all VARs, they use standard mechanisms. The boxes I have contained Seagate mechanisms originally. That's funny because I'd swear the 1.2gb drive I had in my old Apple External 1280 hard drive WAS a LaCie

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread JohnCarmonne
On Nov 28, 2011, at 1:19 PM, diane wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:06 AM -0500 11/28/2011, Jennings Campbell wrote: I find it amazing, considering this is a Mac oriented group that no one mentioned LaCie drives. I have found them to be

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread David W. Morris
This discussion regarding external hard drives vs online back-up sites reminded me to ask about my Passport external hard drive. It is a 750gb 2.5 drive that I was using with my Intel MacBook without the SmartDrive software that comes preloaded on the drive. I used it with TimeMachine to

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread JohnCarmonne
On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:22 PM, David W. Morris wrote: That is when I did some research and found that Western Digital's Passport external drives come in two flavors, one for Windows and one for MacOSX. Does anyone here know how to get my Passport drive to be usable with my G4 PowerBook?

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-28 Thread Dan
At 7:22 PM -0800 11/28/2011, David W. Morris wrote: my Passport external hard drive. (and the robot's arms start to flail whilst it yell Danger! Danger!) That is when I found out that the Passport does not get recognized by the G4 PowerBook at all when plugged in to either of the USB ports.

External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-27 Thread janesprando
I was watching Black Friday ads for an external 2tb drive for back ups. Offcie Max had a Seagate GoFlex 2tb for $75. But I was too late to get one. Then I started researching the Seagates online for prices. In my search, I came across terrible reviews for the Seagates. I remembered that there

Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-11-27 Thread JohnCarmonne
On Nov 27, 2011, at 7:25 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I was watching Black Friday ads for an external 2tb drive for back ups. Offcie Max had a Seagate GoFlex 2tb for $75. But I was too late to get one. Then I started researching the Seagates online for prices. In my search, I came