Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
1) I have a TrueCrypt partition under Mac OS X: whenever I boot into Mac OS 8.6 I am being asked to initialize that partition (volume) _ how can I stop Mac OS from asking me? I don't think you can -- it will always try to mount the volume and fail. cant u do this with drive setup? to stop it from mounting.. i read that you could do this with drive setup just yesterday.. maybe it requires a mac os 9 updated version of drive setup for that functionality but if u didnt check it out.. try it! i read that u can set up any partition to not 'auto mount' -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6? Date:Friday, 15. June 2012 From:Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The problem is, I don_t have a 9.1 CD. I only have this updater. Yup, you need the 9.1 CD for language kits, or for any NuBus Mac. I’ve got a G5 DVD that has an installer for 9.2.2 Classic Environment on it. The installer actually is a .dmg and requires 10.4 or so. BUT it results in a working 9.2.2 installation of the selected language. Gladly, german is one of the included languages. The question is: will this “update” an existing 9.0 installation? I would need to install under my 10.4.11 of course. Anyone ever tried such a procedure? About speed: the boot process of 9.0.4 is not as fast as the one of 8.6. 9.0 and 9.0.4 were, IMHO, poor releases. On the other hand, with the exception of very resource constrained systems, I believe 9.1 and 9.2.2 to be the best versions of the Classic Mac OS on Power Macs (for 68K, I like 7.1 and 6.0.8). I’ll hopefully soon have the chance to compare 8.6 to 9.2.2… Thanks, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
At 8:40 AM -0700 6/15/2012, Cameron Kaiser wrote: TrueType fonts you drag to the Fonts suitcase in the System folder. I don't believe that anything older than OS X will work with OpenType fonts. OpenType system requirements Mac OS 8.6-9.2 or OS X ATM Light or Deluxe 4.6 or later AdobePS printer driver 8.6 or later recommended w/a PS printer 16 MB RAM Citation needed. I've never been able to get OpenType fonts to work at all, and even TrueType fonts need conversion to add the required resources. I'm too lazy to google, but my notes from that era say: 10/22/1999 ATM 4.5.2, $69.95. Supports OpenType. Incompat w/ OS 9. and 04/xx/2001 ATM Light 4.6, freeware, supports OS 8.6, OS 9, MM, OpenType, TrueType, etc. ATM Deluxe 4.6 is $65.00 ... basically Light+Suitcase management, Reunion. fwiw, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 9:07 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? TrueType fonts you drag to the Fonts suitcase in the System folder. I don't believe that anything older than OS X will work with OpenType fonts. OpenType system requirements Mac OS 8.6-9.2 or OS X ATM Light or Deluxe 4.6 or later AdobePS printer driver 8.6 or later recommended w/a PS printer 16 MB RAM -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
TrueType fonts you drag to the Fonts suitcase in the System folder. I don't believe that anything older than OS X will work with OpenType fonts. OpenType system requirements Mac OS 8.6-9.2 or OS X ATM Light or Deluxe 4.6 or later AdobePS printer driver 8.6 or later recommended w/a PS printer 16 MB RAM Citation needed. I've never been able to get OpenType fonts to work at all, and even TrueType fonts need conversion to add the required resources. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- In God We Trust (All Others We Monitor) -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6? Date:Thursday, 14. June 2012 From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Okay. So 9.2.2 it shall be. In my own experience (on a G3/450), OS 8.6 was sensibly faster than 9.2.2. Thus, if you want to squeeze the maximum speed from your G3, I'd keep a partition with 8.6 (try yourself, anyway, you might not feel the speed difference I perceived). I intend to keep the 8.6 partition. So, I found that my 9.0 partition really was a 9.0 partition. I started installing all the updates I have: 9.0.4 went fine. But then, when I tried the 9.1 update, it complained about “Language Kit” which apparently also is installed. The installer tells me to use the 9.1 CD and update Mac OS to 9.1 together with the Language Kit, then it quits. The problem is, I don’t have a 9.1 CD. I only have this updater. So, at least for now, I’m stuck with 9.0.4. About speed: the boot process of 9.0.4 is not as fast as the one of 8.6. Anyone know how to solve this “Language Kit” thing? Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
The problem is, I don_t have a 9.1 CD. I only have this updater. Yup, you need the 9.1 CD for language kits, or for any NuBus Mac. About speed: the boot process of 9.0.4 is not as fast as the one of 8.6. 9.0 and 9.0.4 were, IMHO, poor releases. On the other hand, with the exception of very resource constrained systems, I believe 9.1 and 9.2.2 to be the best versions of the Classic Mac OS on Power Macs (for 68K, I like 7.1 and 6.0.8). -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Life is too short to use anything but a Mac. -- Roger Ebert -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6? Date:Wednesday, 13. June 2012 From:Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Here is the link to what I use, print to pdf. http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html It is a printer driver that works through the chooser. Found it and downloaded it. I’ll install it the next time I have the opportunity. It’s very kind of the author to give it away for free now. So thanks! Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
Greeting! ### # Specs: # Apple Power Mac G3 Blue White (Codename “Yosemite”) #PowerMac1,1 #Rev.1 system board (faulty CMD646 IDE chip!) # 350 MHz G3 (PowerPC 750) # 1.0 GB of PC100 SDRAM # ACARD AEC-6280M ATA-133 PCI card (seen as SCSI) #160GB SATA drive as main boot drive (using a SATA/IDE adapter) # ATi Radeon 9200 PCI graphics card with 128 MB VRAM # USB 2.0 PCI expansion card # Non-original input devices #USB Apple Pro Keyboard, black (NO remote power key) #USB Apple Pro Mouse, black #http://lowendmac.com/ppc/blue-white-power-mac-g3.html #http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/stats/powermac_g3_350_bl.html # Mac OS X 10.4.11 # Mac OS 9.2.2 as Classic Environment # Mac OS 8.6 from original installation media (8.5.1 updated to 8.6) ### I’m using it now for around two years and I’m very happy with it. I had a lot of help from people here in the G-Group to make it run again and to have it run its original OS. Thing is, I’m normally using it with Mac OS X 10.4.11 “Tiger”, but the 350 MHz are the bottleneck. It’s working, but being used to a G5 Dual-2GHz at home it really feels slow to work with. Recently I’ve started using the original Mac OS it came with: 8.5.1. I found that the big advantange would be speed! The classic Mac OS is very fast and responsive on this Power Mac machine: 350 MHz and 1 GB of RAM is really a high-end configuration for it. I had no software though. So I updated it to 8.6, merly because it was free and wouldn’t hurt, and with the help of a great abandonware site I then obtained some digital copies of older versions of the software I legally bought: I’ve got Office:mac 2004 so now I’m using Office:mac 2001 on Mac OS 8.6. I’ve got iWork ’08 + iLife ’08 so I installed Apple Works 6.2.4 on Mac OS 8.6. I’m new to Mac OS 8.6, so I’d appreciate help with the following issues I have (priorities: important questions first): 1) I have a TrueCrypt partition under Mac OS X: whenever I boot into Mac OS 8.6 I am being asked to initialize that partition (volume) – how can I stop Mac OS from asking me? 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. 7) The Option key doesn’t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. This is very annoying when I start the Mac and I don’t want what I last have selected. Any thoughts? Is there a 3rd party boot menu available of anything? I don’t want to use Open Firmware commands, since the ACARD path is very long… 8) Any thoughts on using DVD-RAM under Mac OS 8.6? 9) Should I use Mac OS 9.0/9.2 instead of 8.6? I’m very happy with 8.6. 10) Last but not least: I’ve got a Huawei E152 3G USB modem which is running great on Mac OS X: the 3DataManager (the dial-up software) is even compatible with Mac OS X 10.3 “Panther”! BUT: any chances on Mac OS 8.6? My guess is that there is no hope, but I thought I’d ask anyway… Thanks in advance, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
Why not install OS 9, by the way? That is likely to work better on your hardware, especially 9.2.2. 1) I have a TrueCrypt partition under Mac OS X: whenever I boot into Mac OS 8.6 I am being asked to initialize that partition (volume) _ how can I stop Mac OS from asking me? I don't think you can -- it will always try to mount the volume and fail. 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? You need to convert them. TTConverter is the tool I prefer for this. Then just put them in the Fonts folder in the System Folder. TTConverter might not work well for some OpenType fonts, however. 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? You could set up Multiple Users for this, I suppose (and just have one user). This should cover both bases. However, this only works for OS 9 -- for 8.6 you'd need to install At Ease, and I don't know where you can get it now. 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? No. Adobe Acrobat did have one, but it was part of the full package. I'd look for Print2PICT instead, which I believe is now freeware. 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. Install StuffIt Expander (7 will still work with OS 8.x). 7) The Option key doesn_t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. This is very annoying when I start the Mac and I don_t want what I last have selected. Any thoughts? Is there a 3rd party boot menu available of anything? I don_t want to use Open Firmware commands, since the ACARD path is very long_ I don't think there's any way around that. 8) Any thoughts on using DVD-RAM under Mac OS 8.6? Should work, depending on the drive, but I'd use Toast 5. Support will be much better in OS 9, though. 9) Should I use Mac OS 9.0/9.2 instead of 8.6? I_m very happy with 8.6. For that class of system, I'd really recommend 9.2.2. 8.6 is a good OS, but 9.2.2 is better tuned for New World Macs. I'd use 8.6 on more resource constrained systems, and by OS 9 standards, yours is not. 10) Last but not least: I_ve got a Huawei E152 3G USB modem which is running great on Mac OS X: the 3DataManager (the dial-up software) is even compatible with Mac OS X 10.3 _Panther_! BUT: any chances on Mac OS 8.6? My guess is that there is no hope, but I thought I_d ask anyway_ Doubtful, unless you can drive it as a regular modem through ARA and have it speak PPP to the Mac. Some 3G modems *can* do that but I don't know if yours is one of them. For example, my Sierra Wireless 3G modem which I use in 10.4 doesn't like being directly addressed by anything but the Sprint dialer. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Careful with that Axe, Eugene. -- Pink Floyd --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? TrueType fonts you drag to the Fonts suitcase in the System folder. I don't believe that anything older than OS X will work with OpenType fonts. 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? There's a users control panel that lets you do this, I'm almost certain it's available in 8.6, although you may have to do a custom install, for which you'll need a full 8.6 installer. 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Adobe Acrobat, which may be present on the 8.5 disk 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. Stuffit Expander, which may be present on the 8.5 disk. 7) The Option key doesn’t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. I think that's the only solution. I think that you should definitely update to the latest OS for that Mac, which would be OS 9.2. I do know for certain that OS 9 includes the user login stuff you're looking for. 10) Last but not least: I’ve got a Huawei E152 3G USB modem which is running great on Mac OS X: the 3DataManager (the dial-up software) is even compatible with Mac OS X 10.3 “Panther”! BUT: any chances on Mac OS 8.6? My guess is that there is no hope, but I thought I’d ask anyway… If they don't have a driver for it you're out of luck. Probably your best option is to find someone with (or willing to part with) a bunch of old MacAddict disks, or some old MUG disks. The earlier years of MacAddict were even before the BW Macs, so you might find what you need there, I know that Adobe Acrobat was on every one, as was stuffit expander. I do have a complete set of MacAddict disks...what I don't have is immediate recall of just which boxes they're packed away in... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6? Date:Wednesday, 13. June 2012 From:Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Why not install OS 9, by the way? That is likely to work better on your hardware, especially 9.2.2. I have Mac OS 9 installed as well. I think I went for 9.0.4, because of compatibility with Sheepshaver (in order to get an image). Also, I heard that certain software, mostly games, are more compatible with pre-9 versions and not so well compatible with post-9.0.4 versions. That’s why I went for 8.6 and 9.0.4. Maybe the sollution is to keep the 8.6 for the games, and update 9.0.4 to 9.2.2 for the applications. 1) I have a TrueCrypt partition under Mac OS X: whenever I boot into Mac OS 8.6 I am being asked to initialize that partition (volume) _ how can I stop Mac OS from asking me? I don't think you can -- it will always try to mount the volume and fail. I’m affraid that one day I’ll click on “Initialize” instead of “Cancel”… 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? You need to convert them. TTConverter is the tool I prefer for this. I should get TTConverter then. Thanks for the hint. 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? You could set up Multiple Users for this, I suppose (and just have one user). This should cover both bases. However, this only works for OS 9 -- for 8.6 you'd need to install At Ease, and I don't know where you can get it now. At Ease is installed. I just didn’t know what it was good for. I’ll start using 9.2.2 for the applications, so this shouldn’t be a problem. 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? No. Adobe Acrobat did have one, but it was part of the full package. I'd look for Print2PICT instead, which I believe is now freeware. I’ll propably have to use some abondoned version of Acrobat then. I’m not happy with it, but I really require PDFs as a final output, because that’s what the printer can handle. 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. Install StuffIt Expander (7 will still work with OS 8.x). I think StuffIt Expander is installed. But the files aren’t associated with it. How can do the „Open with…“ magic under pre-Mac OS X? 7) The Option key doesn_t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. This is very annoying when I start the Mac and I don_t want what I last have selected. Any thoughts? Is there a 3rd party boot menu available of anything? I don_t want to use Open Firmware commands, since the ACARD path is very long_ I don't think there's any way around that. The only thing I can think of is installing yaboot for that purpose. But that would complicate things, and I really hoped for a simpler solution. 8) Any thoughts on using DVD-RAM under Mac OS 8.6? Should work, depending on the drive, but I'd use Toast 5. Support will be much better in OS 9, though. I’ve got Toast 6 Titanium (it came with the Mac, so technically it’s not my posession). 9) Should I use Mac OS 9.0/9.2 instead of 8.6? I_m very happy with 8.6. For that class of system, I'd really recommend 9.2.2. 8.6 is a good OS, but 9.2.2 is better tuned for New World Macs. I'd use 8.6 on more resource constrained systems, and by OS 9 standards, yours is not. Okay. So 9.2.2 it shall be. 10) Last but not least: I_ve got a Huawei E152 3G USB modem which is running great on Mac OS X: the 3DataManager (the dial-up software) is even compatible with Mac OS X 10.3 _Panther_! BUT: any chances on Mac OS 8.6? My guess is that there is no hope, but I thought I_d ask anyway_ Doubtful, unless you can drive it as a regular modem through ARA and have it speak PPP to the Mac. Some 3G modems *can* do that but I don't know if yours is one of them. For example, my Sierra Wireless 3G modem which I use in 10.4 doesn't like being directly addressed by anything but the Sprint dialer. I thought so. Thinking about it: I didn’t even try any USB device at all with Mac OS 8 or 9. I’m not even certain if USB pen drives will work. Is FAT32 supported? Thanks for the quick response! Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6? Date:Wednesday, 13. June 2012 From:Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? TrueType fonts you drag to the Fonts suitcase in the System folder. I don't believe that anything older than OS X will work with OpenType fonts. I did that. The .ttf and .otf files are now in the fonts folder, but the fonts are not available in Microsoft Word 2001. 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? There's a users control panel that lets you do this, I'm almost certain it's available in 8.6, although you may have to do a custom install, for which you'll need a full 8.6 installer. I only have the original Power Mac G3 BW installation restore disc. I believe I’ve installed all there is to install. I even have stuff on it like At Ease or so. 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Adobe Acrobat, which may be present on the 8.5 disk I’ll check… 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. Stuffit Expander, which may be present on the 8.5 disk. I think it’s installed already. But some files are not “associated” with the right application. I don’t know why. And I don’t know how to do that (Opt-I in Mac OS X does the trick, but not in classic Mac OS…). 7) The Option key doesn’t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. I think that's the only solution. I think that you should definitely update to the latest OS for that Mac, which would be OS 9.2. I do know for certain that OS 9 includes the user login stuff you're looking for. Yap, Cameron Kaiser also suggested I should use 9.2.2 – I’ll do that. Probably your best option is to find someone with (or willing to part with) a bunch of old MacAddict disks, or some old MUG disks. The earlier years of MacAddict were even before the BW Macs, so you might find what you need there, I know that Adobe Acrobat was on every one, as was stuffit expander. I do have a complete set of MacAddict disks...what I don't have is immediate recall of just which boxes they're packed away in... MacAddict? I’m new to the “classic” Mac. So, is MacAddict a computer journal or something similar? Additionally, I’d like to get everything in german language. I fear this will make these old applications even harder to find. Anyway, thanks for your help! Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Adobe Acrobat, which may be present on the 8.5 disk I’ll check… I am pretty sure only Reader was included free. Here is the link to what I use, print to pdf. http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html It is a printer driver that works through the chooser. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Adobe Acrobat, which may be present on the 8.5 disk I’ll check… I am pretty sure only Reader was included free. Here is the link to what I use, print to pdf. http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html It is a printer driver that works through the chooser. Lordy I misread that question, missed the 'print to PDF'. Print to pdf is the greatest! I used that for years with the classic Mac. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: I do have a complete set of MacAddict disks...what I don't have is immediate recall of just which boxes they're packed away in... MacAddict? I’m new to the “classic” Mac. So, is MacAddict a computer journal or something similar? Additionally, I’d like to get everything in german language. I fear this will make these old applications even harder to find. MacAddict is now known as MacLife : http://www.maclife.com/ a much more staid magazine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacAddict Back in the dark days of the No-Jobs-in-charge-sian Interregnum in the mid 90's, they were a true voice in the wilderness for us dedicated MacHeads, irreverent, snarky and they had a cd loaded with goodies in every issue. Back when MacUser got swallowed by MacWorld, who took all the fun out of it, and started running articles like How to hide your shameful past as a Mac user and Embrace your new Windows Overlords, MA kept the spark alive. Sample of the first issue's reviews, courtesy of the Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/19990220004525/http://www.macaddict.com/reviews/ They had all the great Power Computing ads, and the same attitude. http://www.streamstudio.com/powercomputing/campaigns.shtml Getting everything in German will be a little tricker. Some apps will work, because they use the Macs built-in language stuff, but a lot of apps didn't back in those days. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
MacAddict is now known as MacLife I was a huge fan of MacAddict. I was not a huge fan of MacLife. Losing the cover disc was just one of the transition's many sins, and I let my subscription lapse. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -- G. Marx - -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
Il giorno 13-06-2012 23:02, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: I think StuffIt Expander is installed. But the files aren¹t associated with it. How can do the “Open withŠ³ magic under pre-Mac OS X? Files without association are missing the Creator/Type metadata (two 4 character codes, used by MacOS to identify which app using to open the file, and the kind of content). As said, you can drag the file onto the app icon (or its alias), but you can set the file's Creator/Type as well with a utility: I used TypeShuffler back then, and I loved it; it was freeware (at least up to 1.0.2) TypeShuffler is a drag and drop utility that allows you to change the file type and creator codes of files that are dropped on top of it. TypeShuffler provides you with a configurable database of creator codes so that you can easily change files to a common file type and creator. A similar tools: FileType http://www.frederikseiffert.de/filetype/ Okay. So 9.2.2 it shall be. In my own experience (on a G3/450), OS 8.6 was sensibly faster than 9.2.2. Thus, if you want to squeeze the maximum speed from your G3, I'd keep a partition with 8.6 (try yourself, anyway, you might not feel the speed difference I perceived). The .ttf and .otf files are now in the fonts folder, but the fonts are not available in Microsoft Word 2001. Microsoft apps have their own (not standard) way to handle fonts. To check if the fonts are recognized by the system, try with a vanilla text editing app like SimpleText. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list