Re: [G3-5]Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-23 Thread MaGioZal
On 2/22/10 3:36 AM, Mike Linnett at mike.dogho...@googlemail.com wrote: Also, for what it's worth, my blue and white g3 running tiger works just fine with an apple extended keyboard (possibly 2) plugged into it's adb port. I'm sure someone somewhere with a hacked Leo install on a g4 upgraded

Re: [G3-5]Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-23 Thread MaGioZal
On 2/22/10 3:40 PM, Da'Birdman at sa...@defalcos.com wrote: Supported or not, I'm using a Apple Design Keyboard on this post with an iMate on a Mac Mini Intel running Snow Leopard. I much prefer the ADB Keyboards, especially this one. The only problem with my current ADB keyboard is that

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-23 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 2/22/10 7:58 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, James Therrault wrote: I can't confirm any loading of extensions since I use Tiger. What? You can look in System Profiler under Extensions, although

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-23 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I tried it on my G4 Quicksilver running 10.4.11 and had no luck. That's because only the laptops retain ADB for keyboard trackpad. The desktops lost ADB after the BW/Yikes. -- You received this message because you are a member of

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-23 Thread James Therrault
On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, James Therrault wrote: I can't confirm any loading of extensions since I use Tiger. What? You can look in System Profiler under Extensions, although this may not show every extension. For a complete list of

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Mike Linnett wrote: Also, for what it's worth, my blue and white g3 running tiger works just fine with an apple extended keyboard (possibly 2) plugged into it's adb port. Same for me with both an ADB Keyboard II, ADB Mouse II and Apple Design Keyboard. --

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Kelly Harding
My 2005 iBook G4 seems to be a mix of ADB and USB internally it would seem, the trackpad registers as USB, but theres ADBKeyboard and ADBButtons extensions loaded (guessing for the trackpad button and keyboard). kelly -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Da'Birdman
Yep, Kasey! Supported or not, I'm using a Apple Design Keyboard on this post with an iMate on a Mac Mini Intel running Snow Leopard. I much prefer the ADB Keyboards, especially this one. OTOH, never found an ADB mouse that I really liked. . . Scott Birdwell DeFalco's Home Wine Beer Supplies

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 22-02-2010 03:38, Bob Whiton, m...@rswhiton.com, wrote: Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a G4 Mac with ADB. You are right about the G4 iBooks. But you are wrong about the G4 PowerBooks!! Up to the PB G4 17 1.5GHz Q41A, all the G4 PB's had an internal ADB for

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:45 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 22-02-2010 03:38, Bob Whiton, m...@rswhiton.com, wrote: Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a G4 Mac with ADB. You are right about the G4 iBooks. But you are wrong about the G4 PowerBooks!! Up to the PB G4

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/22/10 10:13 AM, Kelly Harding wrote: My 2005 iBook G4 seems to be a mix of ADB and USB internally it would seem, the trackpad registers as USB, but theres ADBKeyboard and ADBButtons extensions loaded (guessing for the trackpad button and keyboard). I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure that

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 22, 2010, at 4:28 PM, James Therrault wrote: I've been lurking on this thread and always thought that indeed, G4 powerbooks had internal ADB even though it does not show up in About This Mac hardware listings. I have a 1.25GHz PB that dates from 2003. I agree. I've always thought

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread James Therrault
On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Da'Birdman wrote: Yep, Kasey! Supported or not, I'm using a Apple Design Keyboard on this post with an iMate on a Mac Mini Intel running Snow Leopard. I much prefer the ADB Keyboards, especially this one. OTOH, never found an ADB mouse that I really liked. . .

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread James Therrault
On Feb 22, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 4:28 PM, James Therrault wrote: I've been lurking on this thread and always thought that indeed, G4 powerbooks had internal ADB even though it does not show up in About This Mac hardware listings. I have a 1.25GHz PB

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, James Therrault wrote: I can't confirm any loading of extensions since I use Tiger. What? You can look in System Profiler under Extensions, although this may not show every extension. For a complete list of every loaded extension open Terminal and use the

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread PM7500
Your iBook does not have an ADB port, but internally it uses ADB for the trackpad and keyboard. On Feb 21, 9:38 pm, Bob Whiton m...@rswhiton.com wrote: At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/22/10 7:58 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, James Therrault wrote: I can't confirm any loading of extensions since I use Tiger. What? You can look in System Profiler under Extensions, although this may not show every extension. For a complete list of every loaded

Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to this wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was released) used ADB for the keyboard and trackpad. I just posted this because i had read somewhere on a page about the Grififn iMate that Apple

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Bob Whiton
At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_desktop_busthis wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was released) used ADB for the keyboard and trackpad. I just

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 21, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to this wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was released) used ADB for the keyboard and trackpad. I just posted this because i had read

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_desktop_busthis wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Caleb S. Cupples
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 21:38 -0500, Bob Whiton wrote: Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a G4 Mac with ADB. Check the Apple web site for machine specs, not Wikipedia. Bob Bob, The internal interface for the keyboard and trackpad were ADB, even though the

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/21/10 7:18 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_desktop_busthis wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On 2/21/10 7:18 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: It didn't have an external ADB plug, it was purely to run the *internal* keyboard and trackpad. My G4 iBook running Leopard shows no USB devices,

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Mike Linnett
On 22 Feb 2010, at 06:00, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On 2/21/10 7:18 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: It didn't have an external ADB plug, it was purely to run the *internal* keyboard and