Re: RAID Backup

2011-03-17 Thread Dan
Another tidbit about raid: http://www.ghen.be/raid.jpg - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ

RAID Backup

2011-03-01 Thread Dan
Saw this article and recalled some of our threads here about RAID and Backup and such. This is a great example of how RAID Backup, of how data on RAID arrays (even mirrored ones distributed world-wide) can be destroyed, and then your only recourse is to have a good backup -- mag tape

Re: RAID Backup

2011-03-01 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Dan wrote: Saw this article and recalled some of our threads here about RAID and Backup and such. This is a great example of how RAID Backup, of how data on RAID arrays (even mirrored ones distributed world-wide) can be destroyed, and then your only

Re: RAID Backup

2011-03-01 Thread Dan
At 2:33 PM -0700 3/1/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: I do wonder how many metric tons of tape they buy every year, tho, and how many of these they're buying I remember reading something a while ago talked about how many HDs they consume per day, between failure replacement and expansion. It

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:42 PM, t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger and was going to get one external 2 GB drive to sit under

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:42 PM, t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger and was going to get one external 2 GB drive to sit under

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 14, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I'm really hoping that somebody chimes in on this because I have the same question. Software RAID works on any matched pair of HDs, internal, external, whatever you have. Mirroring is mirroring, so this means if you screw up the software

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread Albert Carter
: Wed, July 14, 2010 1:30:05 PM Subject: Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives? On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:42 PM, t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Jul 14, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: which has the advantage of going backwards in time to get to a state that was known good. Theoretically this makes a Time Machine backup more robust and preferable to a mirror RAID backup. I like both. RAID and TM backups. Jeff Engle

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread Dan
At 12:42 PM -0700 7/13/2010, t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger and was going to get one external 2 GB drive to sit under

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread t...@io.com
On Jul 14, 12:40 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 14, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I'm really hoping that somebody chimes in on this because I have the   same question. Software RAID works on any matched pair of HDs, internal, external,   whatever you have

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread t...@io.com
On Jul 14, 12:43 pm, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: All,     I got interested so I started googling. Here's something that I found that may or may not be helpful: http://66.49.144.193/C2011481421/E20060221212020/index.html Ah, good link. Thank you. That was just what I

Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-14 Thread glen
Software RAID works on any matched pair of HDs, internal, external, whatever you have. Mirroring is mirroring, so this means if you screw up the software so that it won't boot, the mirror will also be screwed up. This should not be an issue, as the only thing on the mirrors

RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?

2010-07-13 Thread t...@io.com
Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger and was going to get one external 2 GB drive to sit under it in a MiniStack case, but then I started thinking about back

RAID

2010-03-21 Thread Albert Carter
All,     I am trying to setup a server on my QuickSilver DP 1.0 computer running OS X Server 10.4.11. I would like to setup RAID 5. I have 4 160GB ATA/133 Hard Drives for this purpose. However, I am have a very difficult time trying to find any PCI RAID Controllers for IDE that support RAID 5

Re: RAID

2010-03-21 Thread John Niven
With four drives and Tiger you can do a RAID 0+1. Make two stripes, then mirror them. It's not as efficient, but works. I use it on a G4 Xserve with four 500Gb drives. The other idea that occurs is to get one of the RAID pci cards that were made for the G5 Xserves. I think they might do what

Re: RAID

2010-03-21 Thread Albert Carter
Do you lose much in performance between RAID 5 and RAID 0+1? I got a brand new (factory sealed) Hard Drive Controller Card I don't think it does RAID but I paid like $20 for it off Craigslist. It supports ATA/ 133 since the default controller on board for the QuickSilver is only a ATA/66 maybe

Re: RAID

2010-03-21 Thread John Niven
I believe that RAID 5 would be more efficient in it's use of disk space yet still retain the data protection. Basically my RAID 0+1 uses 2Gb of space to provide 1Gb usable, and yes, it's setup as one boot volume. I keep my mp3 and video collection on it. Frankly, I'm not sure you would notice

PM G5 RAID

2010-02-23 Thread Carmonne
Hi All I have a PM G5 2.7 DUAL and I'm installing a Jive 5 unit and a Seritek card to allow 5 2TB drives internally. I need some expert advise on how and what type of Raid system I need to store and quickly access a large music and movie library? At the moment I have it stored on 3 machines

Re: PM G5 RAID

2010-02-23 Thread Len Gerstel
On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:40 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All I have a PM G5 2.7 DUAL and I'm installing a Jive 5 unit and a Seritek card to allow 5 2TB drives internally. I need some expert advise on how and what type of Raid system I need to store and quickly access a large music

Re: PM G5 RAID

2010-02-23 Thread Dan
At 1:57 PM -0500 2/23/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:40 PM, mailto:carmo...@aol.comcarmo...@aol.com wrote: I have a PM G5 2.7 DUAL and I'm installing a Jive 5 unit and a Seritek card to allow 5 2TB drives internally. I need some expert advise on how and what type of Raid

Re: PM G5 RAID

2010-02-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Dan wrote: For Data security at the cost of speed is RAID 5 across 3 disks. There is a parity bit so that if one drive fails, you still can recover the data by replacing the failed drive. Slower than RAID 0, but your data is secure. until the RAID card

Re: PM G5 RAID

2010-02-23 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 23, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Dan wrote: For Data security at the cost of speed is RAID 5 across 3 disks. There is a parity bit so that if one drive fails, you still can recover the data by replacing the failed drive. Slower than RAID

Re: PM G5 RAID

2010-02-23 Thread Al boone
you need to have to raid cards and have it set up so that for a primary and secondary sort of thing where if one drops out the other card takes over and you can then replace the failed card. After that you need to resync. It takes fancy software but we used to do it all the time on Risc 6k boxes

hardware RAID on a G5

2009-08-31 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
Yo- Does anyone out there have any experience running hardware RAID on a G5? I'm hoping to replace my pile-o'-sata (4 drives to be exact) with a 2 x 1TB RAID 1 array. EveryMac shows my machine as a Power Macintosh G5 2.0 DP PCI-X 2, M9455LL/A (PowerMac7,3). It's running Tiger 10.4.11. All

Re: Need new external HDD's - should i buy RAID units???

2008-12-16 Thread Dan
At 3:06 PM -0800 12/15/2008, darkey wrote: what errors make their way onto a RAID unit that a clone backup won't be vulnerable to? If something goes wrong on your file system, the errors are reflected into the RAID volumes immediately. The easiest example is if you delete the wrong files

Re: Need new external HDD's - should i buy RAID units???

2008-12-16 Thread Dan
At 3:25 PM -0800 12/15/2008, darkey wrote: after posting, I discovered on their website that the Guardian and OWC units are safe to store well below 0°. Operation temps are a different story however. Be *VERY* careful. Drives are very sensitive to heat and moisture. They're meant to be run

BELATED REPLY THANKS! - Re: Need new external HDD's - should i buy RAID units???

2008-12-15 Thread darkey
DVDs too. I have DVD questions - but will save them for a separate post. Should I buy RAID1 units? Personally, I'm not fond of using RAID boxes for backup.  As I mentioned in another post, RAID is Fragile.  Too many things can go wrong with it.  IMO, it's better to get normal sturdy drive

Re: Need new external HDD's - should i buy RAID units???

2008-12-15 Thread darkey
Finally - something I understand!!! amen brother! What good is a speedometer if it's not kept pegged? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5

Re: Need new external HDD's - should i buy RAID units???

2008-12-08 Thread Dan
as many others do. Good. Might want to burn some DVDs too. Should I buy RAID1 units? Personally, I'm not fond of using RAID boxes for backup. As I mentioned in another post, RAID is Fragile. Too many things can go wrong with it. IMO, it's better to get normal sturdy drive/boxes that won't

Re: OT: RAID 0+1 in a Software RAID Environment

2008-10-19 Thread dc
I actually did something similar in my G5 several months ago. I added 3 additional SATA drives using a Sonnet Jive carrier, used Apple Disk Utility to partition the drives and establish a RAID 0 striped array of 1 TB using 3 of the partitions; a fourth was set as a RAID 1 mirrored partition

Re: OT: RAID 0+1 in a Software RAID Environment

2008-10-18 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 17, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Al Poulin wrote: In short, the goal of this setup is to stripe the boot and the home partitions, yet provide a non-striped disk partition to which they mirror for backup. I haven't set up a RAID using Disk Utility for a long time, but IIRC, the RAID setup

OT: RAID 0+1 in a Software RAID Environment

2008-10-17 Thread Al Poulin
in Courier. Here it is: QUOTE [!!! View this message with COURIER font to display images appropriately!!!] Dad -- I am going to be doing more research on the matter of using the Disk Utility's software RAID 0 and 1 in a Mac Pro environment, but wanted to get your opinions on the matter. I am