Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Sort of on the same issue, does anyone know if there's something different about CNN videos? I do fine with YouTube and most other video formats (and I use ClickToFlash to avoid loading Flash stuff I don't want), but CNN videos play terribly for me. (AGP G4 1.4ghz, 2 gigs, RAM 10.4.11 and a GeForce FX 5200 AGP card) Not a big deal, but fewer and fewer stories are being offered as text. Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 27, 2009, at 2:51 PM, nestamicky wrote: On 09-09-27 02:27 PM, Geke wrote: Like Lyne, I have 896 MB (in my Digital Audio 466), and because it's so cheap now (12$) I just bought a 512MB module to boost the Mac to 1280 MB. (It hasn't arrived yet, so I don't know the difference.) Maybe some experienced guys here could give some hints what works better when you have more RAM? It is a given: more ram, faster processing. No questions. Nt exactly. The generalized curve of performance versus RAM looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/yepugwa If you're low on RAM, you'll get a significant performance boost by adding more, however, continuing to add more does not offer the same boost. Remember: Computer performance == I/O + CPU + RAM All programs to some extent are dependent on all three. If your problem is CPU (as is the case with video playback performance most of the time) adding more RAM will not help much (unless you're very low and the system is having to swap memory on and off the disk.) What works better when you have more ram is, not surprisingly, memory intensive stuff. Running lots of programs at once, working on more or larger pictures in Photoshop, *some* video operations in iMovie and such. Youtube? Not so much. The typical Youtube video is 100 megs; the killer here is network IO and CPU. Adding more memory when it's cheap (you can never be too thin, too rich or have too much RAM :-) is a sensible thing to do, but going from 896 to 1280 isn't going to give you a hugely noticeable boost, not nearly as much as going from, say, 512 megs to 1GB. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
I always say if you have an older machine max out the memory with the best memory for your machine, if you don't know what kind will give you this better performance find out which kind will give you the best via websites out there but I don't know of any... I was told this after buying 2-512's for my A1025 Titanium after taking out 2-256's!!! Different manufacturers I guess is what he was talking about??? Does anyone out there know what I am talking about or could help with that info if that person was right??? Once you max it out you can rule out the memory!!! CoolKat -Original Message- From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Sent: Sep 28, 2009 11:47 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My G4 seems to be running slow On Sep 27, 2009, at 2:51 PM, nestamicky wrote: On 09-09-27 02:27 PM, Geke wrote: Like Lyne, I have 896 MB (in my Digital Audio 466), and because it's so cheap now (12$) I just bought a 512MB module to boost the Mac to 1280 MB. (It hasn't arrived yet, so I don't know the difference.) Maybe some experienced guys here could give some hints what works better when you have more RAM? It is a given: more ram, faster processing. No questions. Nt exactly. The generalized curve of performance versus RAM looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/yepugwa If you're low on RAM, you'll get a significant performance boost by adding more, however, continuing to add more does not offer the same boost. Remember: Computer performance == I/O + CPU + RAM All programs to some extent are dependent on all three. If your problem is CPU (as is the case with video playback performance most of the time) adding more RAM will not help much (unless you're very low and the system is having to swap memory on and off the disk.) What works better when you have more ram is, not surprisingly, memory intensive stuff. Running lots of programs at once, working on more or larger pictures in Photoshop, *some* video operations in iMovie and such. Youtube? Not so much. The typical Youtube video is 100 megs; the killer here is network IO and CPU. Adding more memory when it's cheap (you can never be too thin, too rich or have too much RAM :-) is a sensible thing to do, but going from 896 to 1280 isn't going to give you a hugely noticeable boost, not nearly as much as going from, say, 512 megs to 1GB. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow You Tube
On Sep 26, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Can you download a video from YouTube ? Try this software/ http://www.chimoosoft.com/products/tubetv/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On 09-09-27 02:27 PM, Geke wrote: Like Lyne, I have 896 MB (in my Digital Audio 466), and because it's so cheap now (12$) I just bought a 512MB module to boost the Mac to 1280 MB. (It hasn't arrived yet, so I don't know the difference.) Maybe some experienced guys here could give some hints what works better when you have more RAM? It is a given: more ram, faster processing. No questions. If you're onto Youtube though, don't bother, more ram does not seem to do improve viewing. I have 2GB ram in my sawtooth with a very good video card, and it's still crap. $12? for 512? Where did you get that? Care to share. You can write me off list, if you prefer. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 26, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Nestamicky wrote: Bruce, I agree with you partially. But I also think this problem is caused by Flash 10 on older machines. I think Youtube and other such sites just keep moving along with flash. Actually, no. The 'flash' files served up by Youtube and the like are .mp4 and .flv files; only the embedded player is dependent on Flash 10. Once downloaded by Cosmopod, the resulting files can be played by Quicktime Player Along with that indispensable plug-in Perian (why Apple just doesn't include Perian as a standard part of QT I'll never know...it's all open source.) Perian DOES require 10.4, though; VLC has versions that work with OS X back to 10.1. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 26, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Roger Kulp wrote: I use a G4.I have problems all the time with YouTube rebuffering.It seems to have only happened in the last month or so.Can you download a video from YouTube ? Cosmopod http://www.cocoamug.com is one way. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On 9/26/09 3:12 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Can you download a video from YouTube ? And another way that's free is use Firefox and get the VideoDownload Helper plugin. It's really easy to use. It starts to motion if a website has content it can download, click on it when it does it motion and within minutes, secs, hours, depending on your network speed, you'd have the video on your drive. It also, I think, does automatic conversion to avi, and other formats. So, you'd for sure be able to play the resulting video in lots of other players. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Can you download a video from YouTube ? Not legally, I don't believe. In Safari, once the YouTube video has started playing, open the Activity window and scroll down to where the video clip is shown to be downloading/playing. Double click that, and a blank Safari window will open, and the clip will start downloading to your Desktop, or wherever you have told Safari to download to. You can then see it happening in the Download window. But you didn't hear it from me ... ; ) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
How do you download video and what is VLC? It's YouTube that runs slow. Other video is not so bad. TV shows bought from iTunes I'll have to check. Last time I got one it ran fine. I'm planning to buy an episode of Ghost Hunters so I'll see if it plays as well as it used to. On Sep 10, 6:09 am, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:26 AM, iJohn wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:27 AM, lyne chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX: ... (snip) ... It isn't more than a year old. Could it be outdated already? Less than a year old??? OK, now I'm confused. The NVIDIA GeForce4 series is around 7 years old. According to the wikipedia article I glanced at briefly NVIDIA first introduced the series circa 2002. The article also had particularly harsh things to say ... for wikipedia ... about the GeForce4 MX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_4_Series#GeForce4_MX Just posting FWIW ... -irrational john I have the exact same card in my Dual 533 Digital Audio, and it works fine. It originally came with another eBay purchase of a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz. I think its Flash Player that tries to play back the YouTube video. It has become a cpu hog over the last year or so. So, choppy may be all we can get with our relatively slow cpus inside a browser like my Firefox. My Dual seems to work fairly well, but if I download the YouTube video, and play it back with something like VLC, choppyness is gone. If Spotlight (mds, mdsworker) is running, choppy returns. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:25 AM, lyne chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: ... what is VLC? From the website for VideoLAN - VLC media player VideoLAN is a project, run by volunteers, backed-up by a non-profit organisation, which produces free and open source software for multimedia, released under the GNU General Public License. If you want more info, visit the website: http://www.videolan.org -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 24, 2009, at 11:25 PM, lyne wrote: How do you download video and what is VLC? It's YouTube that runs slow. Other video is not so bad. This means your problem isn't the video, it's your network connection. That's the difference between Youtube (and, I'd expect other streamed video to be as slow, like previews at Apple's QT site.) For youtube the solution is simple: either figure out why your network is slow, or use something like CosmoPod to download the Youtube videos to your computer where they'll play back much better. This is my solution; we've got the basic 1.5 megabit internet connection at home, youtube vids are horrible on it, but downloaded they play just fine. There are similar plug-ins for other browsers, CosmoPod is specifically for safari http://www.cocoamug.com/ and is well worth the $15 or so it costs (it's priced in euros, today it's $13.50) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Does anyone know of a way to monitor your bandwidth usage? My friend said maybe ATT has just cut back on their bandwidth or speed or whatever and could be causing the slowdown. I'm on ATT DSL. On Sep 10, 8:52 am, lyne chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I should have said I bought the chip less than a year ago. It's only been over the past month that I've noticed my computer slowing down. It takes longer to load all the ads on websites too. The ads are annoying enough without having to wait even longer for them to load. I upgraded to this G4 from a Blue and White G3 and I thought a 933 would serve me for awhile. It has to; I can't afford to upgrade again right now! On Sep 10, 6:30 am, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Sep 10, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: I think its Flash Player that tries to play back the YouTube video. It has become a cpu hog over the last year or so. So, choppy may be all we can get with our relatively slow cpus inside a browser like my Firefox. My Dual seems to work fairly well, but if I download the YouTube video, and play it back with something like VLC, choppyness is gone. For example, using Activity Monitor, playback of a Roy Hargrove It Ain't Necessarily So clip via Firefox shows my DA Dual 533 OS X 10.5.7 cpu usage @ 150%. Same clip downloaded, played via VLC shows cpu @ ~ 45%. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:19 PM, lyne wrote: Does anyone know of a way to monitor your bandwidth usage? My friend said maybe ATT has just cut back on their bandwidth or speed or whatever and could be causing the slowdown. I'm on ATT DSL. You can test current Upload and Download Speeds this way: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ My Last Result: Download Speed: 733 kbps (91.6 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 136 kbps (17 KB/sec transfer rate) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:27 PM, lyne wrote: On Sep 11, 3:30 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:19 PM, lyne wrote: Does anyone know of a way to monitor your bandwidth usage? My friend said maybe ATT has just cut back on their bandwidth or speed or whatever and could be causing the slowdown. I'm on ATT DSL. You can test current Upload and Download Speeds this way: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ My Last Result: Download Speed: 733 kbps (91.6 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 136 kbps (17 KB/sec transfer rate) --~--~-~--~ Here's mine: Download Speed: 1311 kbps (163.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 325 kbps (40.6 KB/sec transfer rate) It helps to have a baseline from earlier. These speeds are in line with a DSL connection rated as 1.5Mb down and 325Kb up. What speed are you paying for or what is your service rated at? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:27 PM, lyne wrote: On Sep 11, 3:30 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:19 PM, lyne wrote: Does anyone know of a way to monitor your bandwidth usage? My friend said maybe ATT has just cut back on their bandwidth or speed or whatever and could be causing the slowdown. I'm on ATT DSL. You can test current Upload and Download Speeds this way: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ My Last Result: Download Speed: 733 kbps (91.6 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 136 kbps (17 KB/sec transfer rate) --~--~-~--~ Here's mine: Download Speed: 1311 kbps (163.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 325 kbps (40.6 KB/sec transfer rate) It helps to have a baseline from earlier. These speeds are in line with a DSL connection rated as 1.5Mb down and 325Kb up. What speed are you paying for or what is your service rated at? Len Well, I'm paying for Verizon DSL at $21.99 per month, and it rates itself as: Speed (Down/Up): 864 Kbits/sec by 160 Kbits/sec Last Result (similar to mine above): Download Speed: 737 kbps (92.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 132 kbps (16.5 KB/sec transfer rate) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Well, OnyX helped but my video (YouTube, etc) is still choppy. Here's my video card info: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX: Chipset Model:GeForce4 MX Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 64 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID:0x0171 Revision ID: 0x00a2 ROM Revision: 1091 Displays: E17LCD2: Resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz Depth:32-Bit Color Core Image: Software Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported It isn't more than a year old. Could it be outdated already? On Sep 6, 8:29 am, Cheryl H chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: That was going to be my next question, so thanks! On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:01 AM, technophobic_...@comcast.net wrote: On 9/6/09, lyne wrote: I have 15 folders on my desktop, mostly with jpg files. Move the all 15 folders into your documents folder, make aliases of them, and move the alias back onto your desktop if you must have them there. -- T.T. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:27 AM, lyne chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX: ... (snip) ... It isn't more than a year old. Could it be outdated already? Less than a year old??? OK, now I'm confused. The NVIDIA GeForce4 series is around 7 years old. According to the wikipedia article I glanced at briefly NVIDIA first introduced the series circa 2002. The article also had particularly harsh things to say ... for wikipedia ... about the GeForce4 MX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_4_Series#GeForce4_MX Just posting FWIW ... -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:26 AM, iJohn wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:27 AM, lyne chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX: ... (snip) ... It isn't more than a year old. Could it be outdated already? Less than a year old??? OK, now I'm confused. The NVIDIA GeForce4 series is around 7 years old. According to the wikipedia article I glanced at briefly NVIDIA first introduced the series circa 2002. The article also had particularly harsh things to say ... for wikipedia ... about the GeForce4 MX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_4_Series#GeForce4_MX Just posting FWIW ... -irrational john I have the exact same card in my Dual 533 Digital Audio, and it works fine. It originally came with another eBay purchase of a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz. I think its Flash Player that tries to play back the YouTube video. It has become a cpu hog over the last year or so. So, choppy may be all we can get with our relatively slow cpus inside a browser like my Firefox. My Dual seems to work fairly well, but if I download the YouTube video, and play it back with something like VLC, choppyness is gone. If Spotlight (mds, mdsworker) is running, choppy returns. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 10, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: I think its Flash Player that tries to play back the YouTube video. It has become a cpu hog over the last year or so. So, choppy may be all we can get with our relatively slow cpus inside a browser like my Firefox. My Dual seems to work fairly well, but if I download the YouTube video, and play it back with something like VLC, choppyness is gone. For example, using Activity Monitor, playback of a Roy Hargrove It Ain't Necessarily So clip via Firefox shows my DA Dual 533 OS X 10.5.7 cpu usage @ 150%. Same clip downloaded, played via VLC shows cpu @ ~ 45%. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
I have 15 folders on my desktop, mostly with jpg files. I did download CandyBar and found some cute Halloween icons for my desktop. Could that be the problem? I'm an artist and a woman, and maybe it's silly to you guys but I like interesting icons. But if they are slowing down my computer I'll get rid of them. I did download OnyX and it seems to have helped. On Sep 5, 8:30 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: How much stuff do you have on your Desktop? Clean It Up ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
That was going to be my next question, so thanks! On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:01 AM, technophobic_...@comcast.net wrote: On 9/6/09, lyne wrote: I have 15 folders on my desktop, mostly with jpg files. Move the all 15 folders into your documents folder, make aliases of them, and move the alias back onto your desktop if you must have them there. -- T.T. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 6, 2009, at 10:45 AM, lyne wrote: I have 15 folders on my desktop, mostly with jpg files. I did download CandyBar and found some cute Halloween icons for my desktop. Could that be the problem? I'm an artist and a woman, and maybe it's silly to you guys but I like interesting icons. But if they are slowing down my computer I'll get rid of them. I did download OnyX and it seems to have helped. On Sep 5, 8:30 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: How much stuff do you have on your Desktop? Clean It Up ... I've heard tell that a cluttered desktop can slow some things down ... I think display ... maybe WindowServer gets bogged down (I'm really guessing here). Try clearing it off ... if it helps, let us know ... video playback? Nothing here seems silly to me ... Of course I'm billycarmacs ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:45 AM, lyne wrote: I have 15 folders on my desktop, mostly with jpg files. I did download CandyBar and found some cute Halloween icons for my desktop. Could that be the problem? I'm an artist and a woman, and maybe it's silly to you guys but I like interesting icons. But if they are slowing down my computer I'll get rid of them. I did download OnyX and it seems to have helped. Put those folders elsewhere and create aliases. Too much junk on the desktop can cause a lesser machine to slow to a crawl. JT Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYSwrCK8tgqnCNF6UIaG1ydupVxhENc4o0PIhq36NUVvf73R87KSZK/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:28 PM, cheryl wrote: I am using a Quicksilver 2002, 933mhz with 896mb ram. Lately it's been running slow, especially on the internet. I went through and deleted all the game files I'm not using, etc, but it's still slow. I've run the disk utility. Is there anything else I can do? I have a lot of jpg image files stored on the hard drive but I still have plenty of hard drive space. I realize that 933 is not much compared to new models but I can't replace this computer right now. Thanks! You might take a look at applejack and OnyX. google around to see other's experience. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: My G4 seems to be running slow
There are 1.8 GHz update cards by Sonnet, but they are astronomically expensive - around 250 $ US they reach on the eBay. I'd like to have one for my G4 b/w/733MHz/1GB and can't afford it. Surely a 'full' disk is a little slower at startup, but not after it's completed. Close any application not needed at the present moment and hope for the best. Lars I am using a Quicksilver 2002, 933mhz with 896mb ram. Lately it's been running slow, especially on the internet. I went through and deleted all the game files I'm not using, etc, but it's still slow. I've run the disk utility. Is there anything else I can do? I have a lot of jpg image files stored on the hard drive but I still have plenty of hard drive space. I realize that 933 is not much compared to new models but I can't replace this computer right now. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Slow while surfing the web, working with Photoshop Elements, watching video (didn't used to be choppy, now it is). The games I've been running are supposed to be for a faster processor, 1.8ghz, but I have more memory than required and oddly they work pretty well. On Sep 5, 4:30 pm, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: On 9/5/09 4:27 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de Broadcast into the ether: Slow while doing what? Surfing the web? Everything? Word? Games? --Kyle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On 9/5/09 4:27 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de Broadcast into the ether: Slow while doing what? Surfing the web? Everything? Word? Games? --Kyle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
What kind of video has become choppy? Flash? MP4? H.264? I have a G3 iBook that used to handle Flash video quite well, but that was 2 years ago and through the Flash updates over time it has become unable to play Flash video anymore. Chance On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:40 PM, lynechelyh...@gmail.com wrote: Slow while surfing the web, working with Photoshop Elements, watching video (didn't used to be choppy, now it is). The games I've been running are supposed to be for a faster processor, 1.8ghz, but I have more memory than required and oddly they work pretty well. On Sep 5, 4:30 pm, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: On 9/5/09 4:27 PM, WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de Broadcast into the ether: Slow while doing what? Surfing the web? Everything? Word? Games? --Kyle -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Hey Cheryl, Have you done any updates lately??? Sometimes when you do software updates the new updates will slow things down... CoolKat -Original Message- From: cheryl chelyh...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 5, 2009 6:28 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: My G4 seems to be running slow I am using a Quicksilver 2002, 933mhz with 896mb ram. Lately it's been running slow, especially on the internet. I went through and deleted all the game files I'm not using, etc, but it's still slow. I've run the disk utility. Is there anything else I can do? I have a lot of jpg image files stored on the hard drive but I still have plenty of hard drive space. I realize that 933 is not much compared to new models but I can't replace this computer right now. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Two simple things to try. One is to run some kind of hardware diagnostics. The second is to install your system and one or two main apps on another hard drive and run with just that for a while. If your apps run at their former good speed, that would be a clue. Then if you run Apple Software Update and things slow down, there you go... If it doesn't hurt you, then figure out what other change might have slowed you down. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
How much stuff do you have on your Desktop? Clean It Up ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
