Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-24 Thread Illirik Smirnov
Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC architecture. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Dan Palka turboda...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: I like my G5 tower more than my computer lab's Mac Minis. That exact G5 is far

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-24 Thread Dan Palka
On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: So, all of the G5-optimized 64-bit code was never used? I sure do use it. There's exponentially more on Intels running Snow Leopard, and more every day. On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: And if I'm not running multi-core,

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-24 Thread t...@io.com
On Aug 24, 1:14 am, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote: We are not all old cooks who don't want to buy a new computer. I just recently bought a PC tower, but still use my Mac, and actually like it more. We're Kooks. We may also be cooks, but us old farts who prefer out of date

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread MnDel
I'd love jumping to 10.5 or 10.6 - but I have enough docs in Pagemill and Appleworks that the jump looks like a bloomin big mountain to climb. Reading this guide to using OS9 apps on Intel macs puts me right off my feed. http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20060509180914879 So if it

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread Dan Palka
On Aug 23, 2010, at 6:53 AM, MnDel wrote: I'd love jumping to 10.5 or 10.6 - but I have enough docs in Pagemill and Appleworks that the jump looks like a bloomin big mountain to climb. Reading this guide to using OS9 apps on Intel macs puts me right off my feed.

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread Eric Herbert
On Aug 23, 2010, at 6:53 AM, MnDel wrote: I'd love jumping to 10.5 or 10.6 - but I have enough docs in Pagemill and Appleworks that the jump looks like a bloomin big mountain to climb. Reading this guide to using OS9 apps on Intel macs puts me right off my feed.

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread t...@io.com
On Aug 23, 6:53 am, MnDel dsmn...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love jumping to 10.5 or 10.6 -  but I have enough docs in Pagemill and Appleworks that the jump looks like a bloomin big mountain to climb. Reading this guide to using OS9 apps on Intel macs puts me right off my

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread Clark Martin
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:53 AM, MnDel wrote: I'd love jumping to 10.5 or 10.6 - but I have enough docs in Pagemill and Appleworks that the jump looks like a bloomin big mountain to climb. Reading this guide to using OS9 apps on Intel macs puts me right off my feed. Appleworks works in 10.5

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread John Carmonne
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:53 AM, MnDel wrote: I'd love jumping to 10.5 or 10.6 - but I have enough docs in Pagemill and Appleworks that the jump looks like a bloomin big mountain to climb. Reading this guide to using OS9 apps on Intel macs puts me right off my feed.

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread Kris Tilford
On Aug 23, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Dan Palka wrote: it really is time to move on. Snow Leopard on an Intel Mac is an amazing, highly-refined, ultra-powerful combination. I wouldn't downgrade for anything. Great, I think we all know this already, but most either already own PPC Macs or can't

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 23, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: However, I disagree with the idea that Snow Leopard offers any substantial improvements over Leopard, after all, the ONLY thing Snow Leopard is doing is converting Leopard from 32-bit Universal Intel/PPC code over to 64-bit Intel-only

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread Dan Palka
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Aug 23, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Dan Palka wrote: it really is time to move on. Snow Leopard on an Intel Mac is an amazing, highly-refined, ultra-powerful combination. I wouldn't downgrade for anything. Great, I think we

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread Illirik Smirnov
I like my G5 tower more than my computer lab's Mac Minis. It is faster, has more RAM and hard disk space, runs PPC apps natively, resulting in huge speed boosts, is more servicable, can use VGA and ADC monitors natively with the right video card(s), more reliable, uses slightly more standard and

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-23 Thread Dan Palka
On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: I like my G5 tower more than my computer lab's Mac Minis. That exact G5 is far slower than even the base-model Mac Mini of today in Geekbench scores, and you're not even considering that only with Snow Leopard has 64-bit software been

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Chance Reecher
On Aug 22, 2010, at 9:21 AM, MnDel dsmn...@gmail.com wrote: I am thinking to move on from my fearless old sawtooth to a mini, but I'm not ready for the jump to 10.5. Why? From what I read on this Apple page the latest models that are fully compatible with 10.4.11 are the mid 2007 models

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Peter Haas
On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: Your CD set is not compatible with any intel Mac. It only has PPC code on it and won't even boot let alone install. The only 10.4 disc with Intel code (I think) is a later release of 10.4 Server. 10.4.8 was made as Intel. Possibly also as

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Dan Palka
On Aug 22, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Peter Haas wrote: 10.4.8 was made as Intel. Possibly also as Universal. My understanding is that Intel Macs are not installable from any retail Mac OS X Tiger install set, and especially not from a PowerPC Mac mini restore set. Regards, Dan Palka Info-Mac

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Peter Haas
On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Dan Palka wrote: ... and especially not from a PowerPC Mac mini restore set. Well, that is definitely a given (a PPC-only install DVD). But there exist 10.4.x universal installers. I am pretty sure I have one, somewhere. -- You received this message because

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread John Carmonne
On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: Your CD set is not compatible with any intel Mac. It only has PPC code on it and won't even boot let alone install. The only 10.4 disc with Intel code (I think) is a later release of 10.4 Server. Where can I find a copy of 10.4 server?

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Peter Haas
On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:27 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Where can I find a copy of 10.4 server? LEM is the best place. ePay is always a possibility. Even with 10.5 Server, the installation DVDs were Universal. At least the one I bought is Universal. -- You received this message because

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Dan Palka
On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Peter Haas wrote: Even with 10.5 Server, the installation DVDs were Universal. At least the one I bought is Universal. All retail Leopard sets are universal. This was not the case for Tiger because upon Tiger's initial release Intels didn't exist. Since every

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Dan
At 8:55 AM -0700 8/22/2010, Peter Haas wrote: On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: Your CD set is not compatible with any intel Mac. It only has PPC code on it and won't even boot let alone install. The only 10.4 disc with Intel code (I think) is a later release of 10.4 Server.

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread John Carmonne
On Aug 22, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Peter Haas wrote: On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Dan Palka wrote: ... and especially not from a PowerPC Mac mini restore set. Well, that is definitely a given (a PPC-only install DVD). But there exist 10.4.x universal installers. I am pretty sure I have

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Eric Herbert
On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have 10.4 Universal but it will not install on a Mini. That's because 10.4 was never released as a Universal. It had a Retail disc, but it was PPC ONLY. Intel versions shipped with the machines they were intended to run on and

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Ashgrove
Del, Save Tiger for the fearless Sawtooth. Close your eyes and jump all the way to Snow Leopard. You'll never regret it. Tiger is still a superb OS, but Snow Leopard is not only superior, it's breathtakingly beautiful. As an added advantage, if you know your way around in Tiger, you won't feel

Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11

2010-08-22 Thread Chance Reecher
On retail disc? As far as I knew no retail 10.4 was intel/universal. There were, of course, 10.4 Intel discs included with Intel Macs, if that's what you're referencing. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Peter Haas peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:07 AM,