Hi Dennis,
right. I think what is hard for people who are not in business, who are
not programmers, etc to understand is that older products like XP are no
longer making Microsoft money. They released it in 2001 and was selling
it up until 2010 or so. After a certain point they sold as many
Hi Shaun,
That's correct. Windows 8 now uses UI Automation which has drastically
improved accessibility and has pretty much done away with the video
intercept drivers we've seen on prior versions of Windows. So access is
actually improving under Windows 8 not getting less accessible.
Hi Shaun,
Hard to say, but the audio games industry will probably have to change
just like everything else. I can't say when, but the way hand-held
devices like the iPhones and Droid phones are selling we could do well,
as audio gamers, to think about targeting those devices as more and more
Hi Michael,
Actually, we are very close to the full voice input and voice output
type system you are talking about. For the last few Windows versions
Microsoft has included speech recognition software as well as the
Narrator screen reader. From what I've seen of the Windows 8 versions
Hi Michael,
Simple. by adopting a universal interface, universal look and feel, a
developer will reduce complexity and the time it takes to learn the
software. The Basic principle behind the new user interfaces is that if
a customer learns an interface and a developer of a different product
Hi Dark,
Alright, but here is where your argument actually falls apart. If you
want to talk about access on Windows 8 I can say access has actually
improved. There are a number of areas where access has actually
increased and not decreased in Windows, and is well worth noting.
First, UI
Hi folks,
It's been a long time coming, and after giving them chance after chance after
chance, it is finally here. The X-Sight Interactive website is being
transferred to a hopefully much more reliable web hosting service.
Many aspects of the service we were being given, including unreliable
Hi Tom.
Well the upgreading part, I'll have to considder, but I think I would be
very wary of upgrading simply! to upgrade, or simply because I had to,
that's why i'd like some bennifits.
I take your point about laptops, however I am still not convinced, for those
who use desktop pcs as a
Hi Tom.
it might actually be then that microsoft are doing right in win8 what they
missed in win7? sinse certainly I've not heard these things about win7.
Whether however they continue with support for these changes and if they
appear in none beta win 8 (I mean, I heard win7 was supposed to
Hi Dark,
Sure. Again, it comes down to personal preference. Sometimes the
benefits to upgrading aren't always that obvious or seem all that
important at the time.
For example, when Windows 7 came out I really wondered myself if I
should invest in the upgrade. After all, I had a Compaq that
Hi tom.
That makes sense, and if the choice was vista vs 7 i'd probably agree,
however for me it's the compatibility issue that is the thing.
For instance, While I've tried both windows live mail, microsoft outlook and
thunderbird, nothing I thought was as good as outlook express.
yes,
What I never got was the reason why screen readers had to use all the stuff
like video intercept and got so little result in using it.
If I can clone my graphics card virtually and the screen reader is
controlling the clone, then why does a screen reader need external OCR to
handle letters?
If the desktop computer is not the all in one package, why do I hear people
saying that the IPhone or other mobile devices are the all in one package,
when it is obviously not true?
And, if consoles like the play station 3 are running their own operating
system with internet access and such,
hi Michael.
As to why wii, ps3 online etc don't have access to their os, it's the same
reason as nintendo, capcom, square, blizard etc don't make accessible games,
the almighty prophet margin. While governments and institutions will buy pcs
and screen readers for Vi users, thus creating at
Hi Dark,
I am not familiar with MAC OS or IOS.
But what I last heard was that you need to run MAC OS to compile IOS apps.
I am not sure if that's still the case, but that was what I last heard.
And the question about operating system access is not only about blind
users.
Somewhere I once read
Hey folks,
It would appear that there may be some downtime on my email address and,
depending on your location, the website as well. This shouldn't last long,
however. When the new site is back up, those of you who post scores to the
River Raiders scoreboards will need to redownload River
ok I hope he releases an update soon.
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Hey, Jason.
Here is the website address for the BariBari.
pcyam.com
If you can find out how to update the games please let me know.
Thanks!
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Hi Michael,
Yes, to develop games and apps for iOS devices you need a Mac with
XCode and the iOS SDK. That's why its so hard to develop for iOS
because its closed to non-Apple users and developers.
As far as the PS 3 its actually built using a modified Linux
distribution. Thit uses a Linux
so should i get the re download now or will currnet version i have work?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:25 PM
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Hey folks,
It would appear that there
Hi Joseph,
You can try and get the download, providing the website is up in your area.
Regards,
Damien.
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Hi Dark,
Smile. Well, that's true enough. We do come at this entire issue from
different perspectives,and makes sense when we look at the reasons why
or how we use our computers.
You tend to look at this situation strictly as a consumer, an end user,
who only cares about playing his
Hi.
Its been only a day since audiogames.net came up, was just about to
look into the forums this morning like I usually do and got this error.
Unable to connect to mysql database, access denyed, forum pasword error.
Yesterday there was a problem somewhere, then it went to 404 then it came
well it looks at least from the gwmicro win8 podcast that ms is
intigrating all this internally for screen readers which in my view
should have done already!!
Msaa was ok but it only did ms spaciffic controls as far as I understand it.
Sapi was speech, intercepters were needed so the readers
I think there will always be a space for a desk computer, or at least
a computer on a desk, or a portable laptop type of system with full
keyboard of some description.
Maybe the desktop will be on the wall and most of our stuff will be
touch or voice like startrek but even in startrek they had
Hi Michael,
Its really quite simple. Attempting to support more than one platform or
technology requires lots of time, money, and isn't easy to do. Even
though languages and technologies such as Java and Python have been
developed to help aid in cross-platform development there is no one
Ok, let's think about this the other way around:
Then if it is not in the companies interest to make DVD players or other
devices accessible due to financial reasons, why does Windows have Narrator
and Mac got VoiceOver included into the operating systems?
If it is (theoretically) not a good
Hi Tom.
this makes perfect sense, and indeed is also the reason why I have never
investigated mac or lynux in further detail, simply because, while I know
there are probably technical advantages to either os, those advantages don't
matter a bit to me if they won't help me do what I do, part
Hi Dark,
Well, yes and no. Certainly I think UI Automation, the improved Sapi
voices, improved speech recognition in the Windows 8 consumor beta are
good things However, the new user interface is so radically different
from XP, Vista, Windows 7, etc that a lot of blind Windows users,
Hi michael.
firstly some stats and corrections.
for your information while Usa games, gma, bsc, draconis, blind adrenalin
and 7-128 are located in the usa, blastbay is based in sweedan, as was the
old terraformers project, Vip gameszone is based in israil, audiogames.net
is run from the
Hi tom.
that all sounds pretty dire, I especially ahte the sound of the columnized
views, but we'll see. Once again though this is the trend of having
information all on screen rather than accessible through separate areas.
i hope myself there will be the opportunity to put it into lists or
Hey Steve.
If you get any advice on which USB hand held unit that will work with the
largest veriety of hand to ear games and of course the Three-D Velocity hand
to ear flight simulator.
Please pass it along this way.
Ron
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
that a service dog beats a
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