Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Mike Wassel
I am not about to read 40 messages, so I will just comment on this first one. I agree with Thomas on his points. While I don't play many audio games mainly because I don't care for the content when I have other games on my ps2/ps3 that I play more, I see it all the time with this community

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Milos Przic
Of course Tom. 3 working days should be enough, but the more responsible you are, more clients you will have. But 6 months? I understand that a developer invests in software, sounds etc, but it is not likely that one doesn't have at least a little profit from game developement. So if you want

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Milos Przic
P.S. When talking about those who offer us their games for free, that's completely another thing. No responsability of this kind, no possibility of making a crack, etc. Best, Milos Przic twitter: MilosPrzic skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Rivard
I have apologized for what I posted if I misunderstood his meaning. However, I reacted, perhaps in haste, based on what I read and how it was worded. As for the possibility of an automated key generation method for Liam, I don't know for sure, but I would think that it would not be cheap, and

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Rivard
If you are asking if we would pirate, my answer is an absolute No! It is stealing, which I refuse to do when it comes to software. And, yes, I am telling the truth. I respect and appreciate the work that these people go through to produce games for us. (Sent from my iPhone) On Jun 23,

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Rivard
I doubt that it will come to that point, but every one that quits producing is a loss to all of us, and if it is due to a few impatient and childish gamers, it makes me furious! It is ture, though, that it should not take months to get a registration key after you have paid for one. Then

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Brandon Misch
well, bavisoft would have to be put into that category of not coming through with its customers. Sure,, not with keys but with whole orders as the older members on this list knows. On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I doubt that it will come to that point,

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Rivard
And, as far as I know, they are no longer in existance. (Sent from my iPhone) On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: well, bavisoft would have to be put into that category of not coming through with its customers. Sure,, not with keys but with whole orders as

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Brandon Misch
o didn't know that. On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: And, as far as I know, they are no longer in existance. (Sent from my iPhone) On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: well, bavisoft would have to be put into that

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all, Yeah, I don't think it will ever come to us not having any developers developing accessible audio games simply because there a lot of developers like Jeremy Kaldobski, Jim Kitchen, among others who do it for free, and as a result don't have to put up with nearly the crap Liam or anyone

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Brandon, Definitely. It is for that very reason Bavisoft is no longer around. Their website is history, and they were forced to shut down because of their inability to be contacted. So I highly doubt we will ever hear from them again. Cheers! On 6/24/13, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com

[Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Chris H
Oh wow! They have indeed shut down! Last I checked, they were still online and I was able to download the game reviews and non playable demos. Chris On 24/06/2013 16:06, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Brandon, Definitely. It is for that very reason Bavisoft is no longer around. Their website is

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Sky Mundell
Hello Thomas, I checked the sight and it is indeed shut down. Onnistly I can't blame you guys. They are really really out of date, in my opinion -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:07 AM To: Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Chris and all, Well, Bavisoft closing just happened over the last few days so I'm not at all surprised you hadn't heard about it before now.The only reason I know of it is because Sebby posted a notice to the Audiogames.net forum about reporting them to the proper Internet authorities for

Re: [Audyssey] See Monkeys are back in the store, plus updates on game progress

2013-06-24 Thread James Bartlett
hello Jeremy I've been following the monky on here since the first post. I can't wait to get 1 of my own. I'm just waiting till I get the money. It sounds like you are making a lot of progas on it. So I just wanted to say keep up the hard work. bfn James

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Chris H
No I didn't know about this at all since I don't look at the audiogames.net forum. Time to sign up me thinks! Chris On 24/06/2013 19:17, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Chris and all, Well, Bavisoft closing just happened over the last few days so I'm not at all surprised you hadn't heard about it

[Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Clement Chou
Let's just say that as a total we've been able to play more games than most people expect... even my friends with low vision. Fighting games are probaqbly boring only because you play against the computer... it's much more stimulating to play against humans and delve into the meet of the game

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread shaun everiss
what about others that have the game help the devs with keys etc so they don't get bogged. I'd do that for liam and others for nothing. At 01:15 AM 6/25/2013, you wrote: I have apologized for what I posted if I misunderstood his meaning. However, I reacted, perhaps in haste, based on what I

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Lisa Hayes
So it did shut down did it/ well not unexpected anyone got the source code tot the games they created? Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 25,

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Lisa Hayes
bAvisoft was a unique case they didn't give a sausage about their customers or anyone else talk about bringing your demise on yourself. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Chris H
Haha! Let's see if they come down on us this time! Chris On 25/06/2013 00:06, Lisa Hayes wrote: So it did shut down did it/ well not unexpected anyone got the source code tot the games they created? Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Chris H
Lisa it sounds like it to me their games don't even work on the latest and greatest I did buy Grizzly Gulch and wanted Chillingham but time moved on and forgot all about it. Chris On 25/06/2013 00:06, Lisa Hayes wrote: bAvisoft was a unique case they didn't give a sausage about their

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Desiree Oudinot
Well, this is my personal opinion, but you didn't miss much by not playing Chillingham. That game really didn't impress me. However, Grizzly Gulch was fun the first few times I played it. It just lacks replay value. I can think of about 10 different ways I would have expanded it myself, content I

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for thiscommunity to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Bryan Peterson
I seriously doubt it. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Lisa Hayes Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lisa, As far as I know no one has the original source code for the Bavisoft games. That's not surprising as that is not exactly something a commercial developer hands out to just anyone, and if they had given it out to someone else we wouldn't be having the problems we do have with their

Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Well, its mainly a matter of security. A developer's security is based on his or her key generator so naturally they want to keep that pretty close to the vest, and only hand it out to trusted individuals. Plus every time a developer gets an order a duplicate database of customer sales

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for thiscommunityto learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Lisa Hayes
brian what's your tag line? jaws doesn't read it well is it a different language from english? i know this isn't game related, but i'm riddled with curiousity. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To:

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for thiscommunityto learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lisa, Its a different language alright. It is what is written on the Lord of the Rings in the language of Mordor. :D On 6/24/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: brian what's your tag line? jaws doesn't read it well is it a different language from english? i know this isn't

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take forthiscommunityto learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Bryan Peterson
It's the inscription on the One Ring from Lord of the Rings. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Lisa Hayes Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:46 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take forthiscommunityto learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Bryan Peterson
Yup, it's the inscription on the One Ring like I said in another message. One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Lisa Hayes
OH drat awell that's a pity or maybe not. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it takeforthiscommunityto learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Lisa Hayes
OH thanks i was just curious. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take forthiscommunityto learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Lisa Hayes
Sure sodding is a different language now is their a game based on lord of the rings? whatg an epic. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 25,

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it takeforthiscommunityto learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Bryan Peterson
None that are truly accessible as far as I know. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Lisa Hayes Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 6:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it takeforthiscommunitytolearn?

2013-06-24 Thread Lisa Hayes
Bugger what a pity i wish we could have one. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was

[Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-24 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi, I have put a new file up on my web site. File name; wingolfy.exe File size 1.7 meg Golf version 11 comes with 342 golf courses and the golf game as well as the golf course maker program now write their files to your documents\kitchensinc folder. The wingolfy.exe file can be found on my

Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Rivard
Do all previous golf courses work with it? Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Golf Hi, I have put a new

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it takeforthiscommunityto learn?

2013-06-24 Thread James Bartlett
hI there l o l that's cool. I was thinking that myself. So I'm glad she asked. bfn James -- From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-24 Thread James Bartlett
Hi Jim Cool can't wait to check it out. sounds like it would be fun. bfn James -- From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:33 PM To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Golf Hi, I have put a new file up on my

Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread lenron brown
very true I love racing games and many others on my x box 360 it sometimes just takes practice On 6/24/13, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Let's just say that as a total we've been able to play more games than most people expect... even my friends with low vision. Fighting games are

Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Mike Wassel
Yes sports games are possible. But answer me this: How do you play racing games? How do you know where to turn or if you're going the wrong way? Rockband I understand, it's a great game and I like playing it. I guess my point is that we can't play more of the current things if that makes

Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-24 Thread Bryan Peterson
The funny thing is that while I enjoy Kitchen style golf I actually despise the real thing. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: James Bartlett Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft was Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Kennedy
yes i would like grizly gulch and chillingham. On 6/24/2013 7:24 PM, Chris H wrote: Haha! Let's see if they come down on us this time! Chris On 25/06/2013 00:06, Lisa Hayes wrote: So it did shut down did it/ well not unexpected anyone got the source code tot the games they created? Lisa

Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-24 Thread James Bartlett
hI there I'll have to agry. I use to love raceing games midnight club dub was one of my favs, but that was be for I went blind. oh how I wish I could still race. bfn James -- From: lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013