Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread Thomas Ward
HI Dark,

Ahem...Yeah, you mention the word faggot in America and you are liable
to get your brains bashed out. That's because over hear the word
faggot is a slang term for a homosexual man or woman. It is very very
offensive to most people in America. So that's why people would get
extremely upset if you use it.

No matter how inocently you fraze it I can certainly imagine some very
disgusting conotations of the word. I love faggots. I love eating
faggots. Please, put the faggot in the fireplace. In their proper
English context there is nothing wrong with it. However, if we take
the American interpretation then everything I just said would have a
totally different meaning than the one I had intended.

Cheers!


On 3/12/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 A hell of an interesting chat ;d.

 Though actually very similar to what I was reading about a while aog whilst
 reading the percy jaxon novels and deciding to do some extra research on
 griek myths such as Tartarus.

 Also as an amusing point, in nordic languages Hell just means hill, in fact
 there is a very famous station in Sweedan simply called hell station and
 lots of tourists have photos of the sign precisely for the reason you
 mention ;d.

 But I do take the contextual point,  I was most surprised when i found
 Americans getting upset at the word faggot, which in England simply means a
 large bundle of firewood or,  in the midlands where I'm from, an
 extremely tasty spicy meat dish similar to black pudding (the local butcher
 in Nottingham where my parents lives makes the most wonderful faggots).

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Darren,

Lol! I think you just proved my point to Dark a second ago. Even
though I know exactly what you meant taken from the American
interpretation of the word faggot you just said you were a homosexual
even though I know that isn't what you intended to say. Funny how
language can be so easily twisted and misinterpreted from culture to
culture.

Cheers!


On 3/12/11, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote:
 I love faggots! Though they don't taste like how they used too now do they.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread darren harris
Thomas I can make you laugh even more then, my partner and I were visiting
friends in Utah a couple years ago, we went out for dinner at an olive
garden restaurant. That's 1 of my favourite places over there. Anyway we
were talking about cigarettes. Anyway over here 1 particular slang term for
cigarettes is fags. Anyway my mum asked me to bring some home and I hate
them. So I was telling them and I was saying that I'll never bring fags home
I hate them! I hate fags! They were like shut up! I'm like why I'm just
saying I hate fags and the smell when people smoke faggs! 

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Hi Darren,

Lol! I think you just proved my point to Dark a second ago. Even
though I know exactly what you meant taken from the American
interpretation of the word faggot you just said you were a homosexual
even though I know that isn't what you intended to say. Funny how
language can be so easily twisted and misinterpreted from culture to
culture.

Cheers!


On 3/12/11, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote:
 I love faggots! Though they don't taste like how they used too now do
they.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
Wow...I've never heard that expression before.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

Thomas I can make you laugh even more then, my partner and I were visiting
friends in Utah a couple years ago, we went out for dinner at an olive
garden restaurant. That's 1 of my favourite places over there. Anyway we
were talking about cigarettes. Anyway over here 1 particular slang term for
cigarettes is fags. Anyway my mum asked me to bring some home and I hate
them. So I was telling them and I was saying that I'll never bring fags home
I hate them! I hate fags! They were like shut up! I'm like why I'm just
saying I hate fags and the smell when people smoke faggs! 

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Sent: 13 March 2011 09:35
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

Hi Darren,

Lol! I think you just proved my point to Dark a second ago. Even
though I know exactly what you meant taken from the American
interpretation of the word faggot you just said you were a homosexual
even though I know that isn't what you intended to say. Funny how
language can be so easily twisted and misinterpreted from culture to
culture.

Cheers!


On 3/12/11, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote:
 I love faggots! Though they don't taste like how they used too now do
they.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread darren harris
Yup it's a British slang word.

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Hi,
Wow...I've never heard that expression before.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 4:44 AM
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Thomas I can make you laugh even more then, my partner and I were visiting
friends in Utah a couple years ago, we went out for dinner at an olive
garden restaurant. That's 1 of my favourite places over there. Anyway we
were talking about cigarettes. Anyway over here 1 particular slang term for
cigarettes is fags. Anyway my mum asked me to bring some home and I hate
them. So I was telling them and I was saying that I'll never bring fags home
I hate them! I hate fags! They were like shut up! I'm like why I'm just
saying I hate fags and the smell when people smoke faggs! 

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Sent: 13 March 2011 09:35
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

Hi Darren,

Lol! I think you just proved my point to Dark a second ago. Even though I
know exactly what you meant taken from the American interpretation of the
word faggot you just said you were a homosexual even though I know that
isn't what you intended to say. Funny how language can be so easily twisted
and misinterpreted from culture to culture.

Cheers!


On 3/12/11, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote:
 I love faggots! Though they don't taste like how they used too now do
they.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Dark,
Microwave? Where is that bad language at all? I miss the whole point of that
one.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Hi tom.

I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick here slightly.

Basically, I posted the message, but didn't see any response immediately, 
and didn't catch the return mail to me so I wasn't sure it had posted 
correctly (yes, I should've checked the archives).

The only reason I could think of for this was the p i s games joke.

i have no problem with either your or Raul's moderating, in fact I learnt a 
lot of what I do myself when moderating audiogames.net and the entombed list

from the pair of you, so I wouldn't really be one to level cryticism unless 
there was a really good reason.

I have however seen occasions where automated language filters get in the 
way of things irrispective of moderator's position.

For instance, I only found! the language filters for audiogames.net (which 
were rather hidden in a subsection of the admin pannel), when I wanted to 
allow microwave for talking about towers of war which previously was 
disallowed to discourage spambots (I also allowed quite a bit of other 
language while I was there).

And I have seem some very silly language filters, for instance in core 
exiles, I was having fun naming all my mechs things like scrap iron of 
death, spare parts of doom, and junk heep of terror.

However, the mech I dcalled the wreck from hell was auto deleted by the 
games' filters, sinse for some odd reason Hell was considdered against the 
in game naming system's language filters.

Rather nutty if you ask me, I think they may have been programmed by your 
deviled egg haiting relatives Tom ;D.

Hope this makes things clear.

Btw, a question. If you believe people will go to hell for saying hell, how 
can you warn them where they're going? ;D.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet


 Hi Dark,

 Um...What language filters? The Audyssey list doesn't use language
 filters. We generally incurrage free speach as much as possible. I
 frankly don't know where the list gets these roomers, but over the
 last few months I've heard plenty of these kinds of roomers.

 A couple of weeks ago we  have Michael acting as though Raul and I
 read and approve every one of his messages, like the speech police,
 even though he isn't even being moderated. Now you bring up the topic
 of language filters. Do you mind explaining where these false roomers
 come from?

 It is a little difficult to keep good relationships between the
 moderators and the list with these kinds of false roomers floating
 around on list. Contrary to opinions held by some we aren't a couple
 of dictators. While we have to keep law and order for the common good
 we are also gamers ourselves and like to form good friendly
 relationships with the fellow listers out here as much as possible.
 All I'm saying is that Raul and I would appreciate not being accused
 of moderation/management tactics that are false.

 Thanks.

 On 3/12/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 glad you liked it Phil.

 Actually I thought the language filter had stopped this message from 
 making
 it to the list, glad it got there.

 I actually like phlippy games, sound like they make good pinball tables 
 ;D.

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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread dark

Indeed Tom.

I was quite surprised when I first heard that Us term because of the 
difference in meaning.


Just to be utterly confusing too, the term fag which I understand in the us 
can be a short form in the same context as faggot in the uk is simply a 
slang term ffor cigarettes.


In fact in the web game improbable island where cigarettes are a major 
currency, there's actually a full disclaimer on the subject sinse they got 
British players talking about wanting more fags which obviously didn't sound 
right to americans and caused quite a lot of controversy.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread dark

Indeed Tom.

I noticed that the peter Jaxon lotr film missed the line where Boromir 
advises the company when traveling across the pass of caradhras to each to 
cut a faggot, as large as he can bare so that they have firewood in the 
snow.


I imagine such a line would've caused huge problems in the us, but in a way 
it was sad it was missing sinse it might have shown people that the word is 
just a word and has totally different meanings in other contexts.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-13 Thread dark
nope microwave isn't bad language, but previously it just showed up in the 
forum as spam as until towers of war, the only people talking about 
microwaves were spambots trying to post advertizing.


Sorry for not explaining, I must have been a total microwave to get that 
wrong ;D.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Dark,
That was very funny.
I just got a letter addressed to
Phlippy Games,
instead of
Phil at PCS games.
smiles,
Phil not Phlippy.


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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet


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News of time of deciet's release will also be reported via awfulgames.net 
and links will be posted on the list of unavailable games over at p i s 
games.net.


Beware the grue!

Dark.

Ps: sorry phil, no offense meant, but in mangling website names that one 
was just too good to pass up.

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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread dark

glad you liked it Phil.

Actually I thought the language filter had stopped this message from making 
it to the list, glad it got there.


I actually like phlippy games, sound like they make good pinball tables ;D.

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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Um...What language filters? The Audyssey list doesn't use language
filters. We generally incurrage free speach as much as possible. I
frankly don't know where the list gets these roomers, but over the
last few months I've heard plenty of these kinds of roomers.

A couple of weeks ago we  have Michael acting as though Raul and I
read and approve every one of his messages, like the speech police,
even though he isn't even being moderated. Now you bring up the topic
of language filters. Do you mind explaining where these false roomers
come from?

 It is a little difficult to keep good relationships between the
moderators and the list with these kinds of false roomers floating
around on list. Contrary to opinions held by some we aren't a couple
of dictators. While we have to keep law and order for the common good
we are also gamers ourselves and like to form good friendly
relationships with the fellow listers out here as much as possible.
All I'm saying is that Raul and I would appreciate not being accused
of moderation/management tactics that are false.

Thanks.

On 3/12/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 glad you liked it Phil.

 Actually I thought the language filter had stopped this message from making
 it to the list, glad it got there.

 I actually like phlippy games, sound like they make good pinball tables ;D.

 Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread dark

Hi tom.

I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick here slightly.

Basically, I posted the message, but didn't see any response immediately, 
and didn't catch the return mail to me so I wasn't sure it had posted 
correctly (yes, I should've checked the archives).


The only reason I could think of for this was the p i s games joke.

i have no problem with either your or Raul's moderating, in fact I learnt a 
lot of what I do myself when moderating audiogames.net and the entombed list 
from the pair of you, so I wouldn't really be one to level cryticism unless 
there was a really good reason.


I have however seen occasions where automated language filters get in the 
way of things irrispective of moderator's position.


For instance, I only found! the language filters for audiogames.net (which 
were rather hidden in a subsection of the admin pannel), when I wanted to 
allow microwave for talking about towers of war which previously was 
disallowed to discourage spambots (I also allowed quite a bit of other 
language while I was there).


And I have seem some very silly language filters, for instance in core 
exiles, I was having fun naming all my mechs things like scrap iron of 
death, spare parts of doom, and junk heep of terror.


However, the mech I dcalled the wreck from hell was auto deleted by the 
games' filters, sinse for some odd reason Hell was considdered against the 
in game naming system's language filters.


Rather nutty if you ask me, I think they may have been programmed by your 
deviled egg haiting relatives Tom ;D.


Hope this makes things clear.

Btw, a question. If you believe people will go to hell for saying hell, how 
can you warn them where they're going? ;D.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet



Hi Dark,

Um...What language filters? The Audyssey list doesn't use language
filters. We generally incurrage free speach as much as possible. I
frankly don't know where the list gets these roomers, but over the
last few months I've heard plenty of these kinds of roomers.

A couple of weeks ago we  have Michael acting as though Raul and I
read and approve every one of his messages, like the speech police,
even though he isn't even being moderated. Now you bring up the topic
of language filters. Do you mind explaining where these false roomers
come from?

It is a little difficult to keep good relationships between the
moderators and the list with these kinds of false roomers floating
around on list. Contrary to opinions held by some we aren't a couple
of dictators. While we have to keep law and order for the common good
we are also gamers ourselves and like to form good friendly
relationships with the fellow listers out here as much as possible.
All I'm saying is that Raul and I would appreciate not being accused
of moderation/management tactics that are false.

Thanks.

On 3/12/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

glad you liked it Phil.

Actually I thought the language filter had stopped this message from 
making

it to the list, glad it got there.

I actually like phlippy games, sound like they make good pinball tables 
;D.


Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread darren harris
How comes you don't play core exiles anymore dark 

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: 12 March 2011 20:49
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

Hi tom.

I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick here slightly.

Basically, I posted the message, but didn't see any response immediately, 
and didn't catch the return mail to me so I wasn't sure it had posted 
correctly (yes, I should've checked the archives).

The only reason I could think of for this was the p i s games joke.

i have no problem with either your or Raul's moderating, in fact I learnt a 
lot of what I do myself when moderating audiogames.net and the entombed list

from the pair of you, so I wouldn't really be one to level cryticism unless 
there was a really good reason.

I have however seen occasions where automated language filters get in the 
way of things irrispective of moderator's position.

For instance, I only found! the language filters for audiogames.net (which 
were rather hidden in a subsection of the admin pannel), when I wanted to 
allow microwave for talking about towers of war which previously was 
disallowed to discourage spambots (I also allowed quite a bit of other 
language while I was there).

And I have seem some very silly language filters, for instance in core 
exiles, I was having fun naming all my mechs things like scrap iron of 
death, spare parts of doom, and junk heep of terror.

However, the mech I dcalled the wreck from hell was auto deleted by the 
games' filters, sinse for some odd reason Hell was considdered against the 
in game naming system's language filters.

Rather nutty if you ask me, I think they may have been programmed by your 
deviled egg haiting relatives Tom ;D.

Hope this makes things clear.

Btw, a question. If you believe people will go to hell for saying hell, how 
can you warn them where they're going? ;D.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet


 Hi Dark,

 Um...What language filters? The Audyssey list doesn't use language
 filters. We generally incurrage free speach as much as possible. I
 frankly don't know where the list gets these roomers, but over the
 last few months I've heard plenty of these kinds of roomers.

 A couple of weeks ago we  have Michael acting as though Raul and I
 read and approve every one of his messages, like the speech police,
 even though he isn't even being moderated. Now you bring up the topic
 of language filters. Do you mind explaining where these false roomers
 come from?

 It is a little difficult to keep good relationships between the
 moderators and the list with these kinds of false roomers floating
 around on list. Contrary to opinions held by some we aren't a couple
 of dictators. While we have to keep law and order for the common good
 we are also gamers ourselves and like to form good friendly
 relationships with the fellow listers out here as much as possible.
 All I'm saying is that Raul and I would appreciate not being accused
 of moderation/management tactics that are false.

 Thanks.

 On 3/12/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 glad you liked it Phil.

 Actually I thought the language filter had stopped this message from 
 making
 it to the list, glad it got there.

 I actually like phlippy games, sound like they make good pinball tables 
 ;D.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread dark

No special reason, just got out of the habbit temporarily then was busy.

sinse however I have everything like what npc missions I was looking for 
written up in notes starting up again won't be too hard.


Also I was giving a couple of other games like KoL a try, but I'll admit I 
didn't find them half as absorbing as Ce.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet



How comes you don't play core exiles anymore dark

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: 12 March 2011 20:49
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

Hi tom.

I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick here slightly.

Basically, I posted the message, but didn't see any response immediately,
and didn't catch the return mail to me so I wasn't sure it had posted
correctly (yes, I should've checked the archives).

The only reason I could think of for this was the p i s games joke.

i have no problem with either your or Raul's moderating, in fact I learnt 
a
lot of what I do myself when moderating audiogames.net and the entombed 
list


from the pair of you, so I wouldn't really be one to level cryticism 
unless

there was a really good reason.

I have however seen occasions where automated language filters get in the
way of things irrispective of moderator's position.

For instance, I only found! the language filters for audiogames.net (which
were rather hidden in a subsection of the admin pannel), when I wanted to
allow microwave for talking about towers of war which previously was
disallowed to discourage spambots (I also allowed quite a bit of other
language while I was there).

And I have seem some very silly language filters, for instance in core
exiles, I was having fun naming all my mechs things like scrap iron of
death, spare parts of doom, and junk heep of terror.

However, the mech I dcalled the wreck from hell was auto deleted by the
games' filters, sinse for some odd reason Hell was considdered against the
in game naming system's language filters.

Rather nutty if you ask me, I think they may have been programmed by your
deviled egg haiting relatives Tom ;D.

Hope this makes things clear.

Btw, a question. If you believe people will go to hell for saying hell, 
how

can you warn them where they're going? ;D.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet



Hi Dark,

Um...What language filters? The Audyssey list doesn't use language
filters. We generally incurrage free speach as much as possible. I
frankly don't know where the list gets these roomers, but over the
last few months I've heard plenty of these kinds of roomers.

A couple of weeks ago we  have Michael acting as though Raul and I
read and approve every one of his messages, like the speech police,
even though he isn't even being moderated. Now you bring up the topic
of language filters. Do you mind explaining where these false roomers
come from?

It is a little difficult to keep good relationships between the
moderators and the list with these kinds of false roomers floating
around on list. Contrary to opinions held by some we aren't a couple
of dictators. While we have to keep law and order for the common good
we are also gamers ourselves and like to form good friendly
relationships with the fellow listers out here as much as possible.
All I'm saying is that Raul and I would appreciate not being accused
of moderation/management tactics that are false.

Thanks.

On 3/12/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

glad you liked it Phil.

Actually I thought the language filter had stopped this message from
making
it to the list, glad it got there.

I actually like phlippy games, sound like they make good pinball tables
;D.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Oh, I see. I was just wondering why you mentioned language filters.
Raul and I pretty much decided not to use them for the exact reasons
you pointed out. Sometimes they are too restrictive, because as you
pointed out some words people find offensive like hell, bitch, etc are
perfectly fine put in their proper context.

For instance, I've read a number of fantacy books were female
werewolves are called bitches by the characters. In this context it is
perfectly ok, because the word bitch simply means a female dog, wolf,
etc. Calling a person a bitch, calling your  former girl friend a
bitch, etc is likely to result in your face getting slapped. In that
context it isn't very nice or proper. Grin.


Same goes with the word hell. Most people have this idea of a firy
place underground were the devil lives, but that's not were the word
originated. The word hell actually simply means a hole in the ground
or grave which is, interesting enough, in keeping with old testament
passages regarding hell.  In the old testament the hebrew word for
hell would be better translated as grave. Early Jewish concepts of
death did not have a concept of hell as we think of it today. No, that
idea came much later on in history when Jesus began describing the
lake of fire, gahenna, which was a garbage dump outside the towns and
villages were they burned their trash. Finally, there are a number of
passages in the Greek version of the new testament where the word
Hades has been translated as hell by English scholars. So what is the
point of this history lesson?

Well, to begin with the word hell has multiple meanings, and even in
the holy bible the word hell isn't consistent from book to book or
chapter to chapter. Not if you go back to the original Greek and
Hebrew and read the text as it was actually written rather than
translated by scholars.  At its most simplist translation hell is
nothing more and nothing less than a grave. Another translation of
hell is the lake of fire. There is a version of hell which replaces
the word Hades which was the Greek land of the dead. That's three
different translations of the word which are perfectly acceptable in
various contexts. There is another translation, more modern, were hell
simply means that something was rough, terrible, and more than you can
bare. For example, life in the Notzi consentration camps must have
been hell. We aren't litterally talking about hell as in a grave,
place of the dead, or where sinners go but that hell as in miserable,
terrible, and inhuman conditions.

So anyway that's why Raul and I don't use language filters. Words
people find offensive are largely open to personal interpretation. You
yourself have pointed out that in England the word sod is a sware
word. Over here in the U.S. the word sod is grass and dirt used to lay
down on a bare patch of ground to help add grass and soil to that
area. There is just way too much flexability to use language filters.
Instead it is up to the moderator to decide if the word was used
improperly or not. I.E. aimed at someone in a negative way, to insult,
etc.


Personally, I think a big reason why a lot of people get so easily
insulted by a word is they are usually ignorant of its alternative
meanings. If I use the word hell most Christians will jump to the
description taught to them in their Sunday school classes of this
place under ground, burning night and day, were the devil and his
minions live. Strangely enough, this description is not consistent
with the actual biblical descriptions or concepts of hell.  If that is
the only translation or interpretation they are aware of then they
aren't going to be too receptive of other interpretations of the word.
Even if my use of the word might be proper in the context I use it.

Cheers!


On 3/12/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi tom.

 I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick here slightly.

 Basically, I posted the message, but didn't see any response immediately,
 and didn't catch the return mail to me so I wasn't sure it had posted
 correctly (yes, I should've checked the archives).

 The only reason I could think of for this was the p i s games joke.

 i have no problem with either your or Raul's moderating, in fact I learnt a
 lot of what I do myself when moderating audiogames.net and the entombed list
 from the pair of you, so I wouldn't really be one to level cryticism unless
 there was a really good reason.

 I have however seen occasions where automated language filters get in the
 way of things irrispective of moderator's position.

 For instance, I only found! the language filters for audiogames.net (which
 were rather hidden in a subsection of the admin pannel), when I wanted to
 allow microwave for talking about towers of war which previously was
 disallowed to discourage spambots (I also allowed quite a bit of other
 language while I was there).

 And I have seem some very silly language filters, for instance in core
 exiles, I was having fun naming 

Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread dark

A hell of an interesting chat ;d.

Though actually very similar to what I was reading about a while aog whilst 
reading the percy jaxon novels and deciding to do some extra research on 
griek myths such as Tartarus.


Also as an amusing point, in nordic languages Hell just means hill, in fact 
there is a very famous station in Sweedan simply called hell station and 
lots of tourists have photos of the sign precisely for the reason you 
mention ;d.


But I do take the contextual point,  I was most surprised when i found 
Americans getting upset at the word faggot, which in England simply means a 
large bundle of firewood or,  in the midlands where I'm from, an 
extremely tasty spicy meat dish similar to black pudding (the local butcher 
in Nottingham where my parents lives makes the most wonderful faggots).


Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread darren harris
I love faggots! Though they don't taste like how they used too now do they. 

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A hell of an interesting chat ;d.

Though actually very similar to what I was reading about a while aog whilst 
reading the percy jaxon novels and deciding to do some extra research on 
griek myths such as Tartarus.

Also as an amusing point, in nordic languages Hell just means hill, in fact 
there is a very famous station in Sweedan simply called hell station and 
lots of tourists have photos of the sign precisely for the reason you 
mention ;d.

But I do take the contextual point,  I was most surprised when i found 
Americans getting upset at the word faggot, which in England simply means a 
large bundle of firewood or,  in the midlands where I'm from, an 
extremely tasty spicy meat dish similar to black pudding (the local butcher 
in Nottingham where my parents lives makes the most wonderful faggots).

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-12 Thread dark
Well Darren, they don't if you buy the bog standard ones, however our local 
butcher in nottingham actually makes his own, their absolutely 
fantastic,  and extremely filling too.


He also does fantastic steak pies and pasties, --- -youch, now I'm making 
myself hungry ;D.


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[Audyssey] Games we'd like to play, Time of deciet

2011-03-07 Thread dark
This is an exciting new turn based stratogy game played on a modern computer, 
in which you command such powerful units as text E-mails, html E-mails and 
twitter clients across a square map of millions of participants. 

The basic principle of the game is to come up with as many convincing game 
ideas as possible. The more people's attention you capture, the greater 
resources of snideness, overconfidence and general smarm you have. You can then 
channel these resources back into generating more vital units which can be used 
to capture more people's imagination with whacky game ideas. 

Which stratogy to follow? Will you opt for a costly but wild idea which is 
likely to sound impressive but be totally implausable? or will you go for a 
realistic idea which is more likely to capture more hard core teretory, but be 
less appealing in power of persuasion. 

this game can be played online, any time, against hundreds of opponents on the 
audeasy list, and leader boards will be held for those who manage to convince 
most people and gain the largest amount of is this a real game? responses. 

Best of all you can play on a wide variety of user created idiological maps. 

the wished for beat em up, the impressive rpg, the whacky arcade game, the user 
in put engine, and the formidable sounding plot monster rpg! 

Can you convince the maximum amount of people that many games are really in the 
works? or will you be found out for the fraud you are! 

Time of deciet is not in developement, and will absolutely, positively and 
completely never be available from such great accessible game developers as u n 
interactive, n o t games, braingonesoft, projectsinc.net and lackof 
entertainment. 

News of time of deciet's release will also be reported via awfulgames.net and 
links will be posted on the list of unavailable games over at p i s games.net. 

Beware the grue! 

Dark. 

Ps: sorry phil, no offense meant, but in mangling website names that one was 
just too good to pass up. 
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