Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
no. Sorry for this. I've never heard he's still supporting it. Thanks and sorry much, Shane - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi Shane, Uh...Just because David Greenwood isn't directly selling his engine to the general public any more does not necessarily mean it is abandonware. He is still continuing to create games for himself, and Phil still uses it. Phil and David both have mentioned on more than ocation that the engine is being upgraded to support Vista and Windows 7. Which means it isn't abandonware just not available to the public. Big difference. Think about it a moment. The way you are talking my game engine, Genesis 3D, should be considered abandonware because I haven't made it available to the public. Even though I'm still supporting it, still developing it, and have just put a months work into it making it fully cross-platform compatible with Mac, Linux, and Windows. If I decide to just create games with G3D and not sell the engine is that abandonware? Cheers! On 5/17/11, Shane Lowe wrote: if he's stoped celling it, is it abanden-where? If so, Could I have a copy? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi, I totally agree with that. I wondered why is he not selling GM like GT or something. Is it because of its complexities of the scripting language? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Phil, Yeah, that makes sense. While that wouldn't be that complex for someone like me the last thing a new user wants is to come face to face with all the complexities of creating their own database. I have to do something like that every time I create a new project with the G3D Engine as well, and I could see how filling out all that info might put some people off game development. However, filling in attributes for players and enemies is a far cry easier from writing an entire game from scratch. Cheers! On 5/17/11, Phil Vlasak wrote: > Hi Thomas, > I think the reason more people didn't complete their games is that although > the GMA engine had documentation, and a sample level script, you didn't get > the data base of objects and creatures that went with the script. > A data base of each creature had to be filled out if they were different. > Each creature has about 70 different attributes to set, > Such as size, speed, intelligence, turn rate etc. > So creating a complex game can be very complex. > That is why I created Pacman first, as the only thing that changed from > level to level were the speeds of the ghosts and the bonus object in the > middle of the map, plus the level music. > > smiles, > Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi Thomas, I think the reason more people didn't complete their games is that although the GMA engine had documentation, and a sample level script, you didn't get the data base of objects and creatures that went with the script. A data base of each creature had to be filled out if they were different. Each creature has about 70 different attributes to set, Such as size, speed, intelligence, turn rate etc. So creating a complex game can be very complex. That is why I created Pacman first, as the only thing that changed from level to level were the speeds of the ghosts and the bonus object in the middle of the map, plus the level music. smiles, Phil - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi Phil, H...Yeah, I definitly do see where David is coming from. That's actually been one of my own issues with releasing my Genesis 3D engine. If I release it, regardless if I release it for free or sell it, I will have to support it. That usually means teaching newbies lots of programming theory, programming techniques, and explain to them how the engine works. That's a lot of work. Not tomention,right now the G3D engine is just a library g3d.lib for Windows and g3d.so for Linux that can be statically or dynamically linked to a standard C++ project. I'm also planning on building a managed .NET library version that will work with .NET languages like C# .NET and VB .NET. That's all well and good for a programmer, but if someone doesn't know one of those programming languages my engine isn't of much help. It isn't an all in one deal like the GMA engine or BGT is. Of course, I could wrap the core with Angelsscript, like Philip did, but I'm still in the position of writing up pages of documentation how to code a game, writing samples, etc. I don't really have the time or the energy to put the effort into it right now. So for the moment, at least, G3D is a private engine. Although, eventually I would like to release it so Mac, Linux, and Windows users can start creating games with it. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi Shane, Uh...Just because David Greenwood isn't directly selling his engine to the general public any more does not necessarily mean it is abandonware. He is still continuing to create games for himself, and Phil still uses it. Phil and David both have mentioned on more than ocation that the engine is being upgraded to support Vista and Windows 7. Which means it isn't abandonware just not available to the public. Big difference. Think about it a moment. The way you are talking my game engine, Genesis 3D, should be considered abandonware because I haven't made it available to the public. Even though I'm still supporting it, still developing it, and have just put a months work into it making it fully cross-platform compatible with Mac, Linux, and Windows. If I decide to just create games with G3D and not sell the engine is that abandonware? Cheers! On 5/17/11, Shane Lowe wrote: > if he's stoped celling it, is it abanden-where? If so, Could I have a copy? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi Phil, H...Yeah, I definitly do see where David is coming from. That's actually been one of my own issues with releasing my Genesis 3D engine. If I release it, regardless if I release it for free or sell it, I will have to support it. That usually means teaching newbies lots of programming theory, programming techniques, and explain to them how the engine works. That's a lot of work. Not tomention,right now the G3D engine is just a library g3d.lib for Windows and g3d.so for Linux that can be statically or dynamically linked to a standard C++ project. I'm also planning on building a managed .NET library version that will work with .NET languages like C# .NET and VB .NET. That's all well and good for a programmer, but if someone doesn't know one of those programming languages my engine isn't of much help. It isn't an all in one deal like the GMA engine or BGT is. Of course, I could wrap the core with Angelsscript, like Philip did, but I'm still in the position of writing up pages of documentation how to code a game, writing samples, etc. I don't really have the time or the energy to put the effort into it right now. So for the moment, at least, G3D is a private engine. Although, eventually I would like to release it so Mac, Linux, and Windows users can start creating games with it. Cheers! On 5/17/11, Phil Vlasak wrote: > Hi Shane, > David hasn't abandoned it, he is still using it for himself and for me. > I think it took too much of his time trying to teach people how to use it. I > won't quote prices as he had several plans to rent the game for a period of > time. And during that time he promised that he would answer any questions > about the engine. > He is still working on the engine and making it more Vista and Windows 7 > compatible. > Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi Shane, David hasn't abandoned it, he is still using it for himself and for me. I think it took too much of his time trying to teach people how to use it. I won't quote prices as he had several plans to rent the game for a period of time. And during that time he promised that he would answer any questions about the engine. He is still working on the engine and making it more Vista and Windows 7 compatible. Phil - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? if he's stoped celling it, is it abanden-where? If so, Could I have a copy? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi Shane, No David Greenwood never put out a demo of the engine. I guess he figured playing Shads of Doom and Bank Commander were demo enough. A while ago David offered to sell the engine or rent it for a specific time. There were about a dozen people who were using the engine to develop games, but so far I'm the only one who has finished them. I used the engine for Pacman Talks, Super Dog's bone hunt and the Sarah game. He has stopped selling or renting the engine at this time. Phil - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Is there a demo availible for this engin? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? hi Alfredo, The GMA engine has it's own scripting language that allows you to write scripts with a regular word processer, save them as a text file and the engine converts that script to a level file that the game can then use. As it was written in visual basic 6 it contains some of the conventions of that language. But it also requires you to have the visual basic libraries on your computer to run correctly, so that either requires a separate download of those libraries, or if bundled in the game itself, requires you to download something you already have in a download that is larger than it needs to be. As for players changing the levels in Sarah, only the developer myself can do that easily as it requires a special developer key to make any changes. Phil - Original Message - From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3641 - Release Date: 05/16/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1509/3643 - Release Date: 05/17/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi Alfredo, No. The GMA engine and BGT engine are very different in design. The GMA engine was written in Visual Basic and it has a pretty Basic-like interface to it. BGT was written in C/C++ and Philip simplified it by wrapping the engine using Angelscript. Angelscript is a language similar to C/C++, but isn't C/C++. So they are really quite different from a programming standpoint, and in plenty of other ways as well. HTH On 5/17/11, Alfredo_The_Music_maker wrote: > Hi, > I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel > script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same > programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so > other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
hmm. Sorry. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Certainly not shane. Abandonware means the developer has stopped supporting the software, not stopped selling it. obviously David is supporting the software, sinse Phil is releasing new versions of Sarah, and David is himself working on new games with it, he's just not selling it anymore. Beware the gRue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? if he's stoped celling it, is it abanden-where? If so, Could I have a copy? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi Shane, No David Greenwood never put out a demo of the engine. I guess he figured playing Shads of Doom and Bank Commander were demo enough. A while ago David offered to sell the engine or rent it for a specific time. There were about a dozen people who were using the engine to develop games, but so far I'm the only one who has finished them. I used the engine for Pacman Talks, Super Dog's bone hunt and the Sarah game. He has stopped selling or renting the engine at this time. Phil - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Is there a demo availible for this engin? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? hi Alfredo, The GMA engine has it's own scripting language that allows you to write scripts with a regular word processer, save them as a text file and the engine converts that script to a level file that the game can then use. As it was written in visual basic 6 it contains some of the conventions of that language. But it also requires you to have the visual basic libraries on your computer to run correctly, so that either requires a separate download of those libraries, or if bundled in the game itself, requires you to download something you already have in a download that is larger than it needs to be. As for players changing the levels in Sarah, only the developer myself can do that easily as it requires a special developer key to make any changes. Phil - Original Message - From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3641 - Release Date: 05/16/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1509/3643 - Release Date: 05/17/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Certainly not shane. Abandonware means the developer has stopped supporting the software, not stopped selling it. obviously David is supporting the software, sinse Phil is releasing new versions of Sarah, and David is himself working on new games with it, he's just not selling it anymore. Beware the gRue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? if he's stoped celling it, is it abanden-where? If so, Could I have a copy? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi Shane, No David Greenwood never put out a demo of the engine. I guess he figured playing Shads of Doom and Bank Commander were demo enough. A while ago David offered to sell the engine or rent it for a specific time. There were about a dozen people who were using the engine to develop games, but so far I'm the only one who has finished them. I used the engine for Pacman Talks, Super Dog's bone hunt and the Sarah game. He has stopped selling or renting the engine at this time. Phil - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Is there a demo availible for this engin? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? hi Alfredo, The GMA engine has it's own scripting language that allows you to write scripts with a regular word processer, save them as a text file and the engine converts that script to a level file that the game can then use. As it was written in visual basic 6 it contains some of the conventions of that language. But it also requires you to have the visual basic libraries on your computer to run correctly, so that either requires a separate download of those libraries, or if bundled in the game itself, requires you to download something you already have in a download that is larger than it needs to be. As for players changing the levels in Sarah, only the developer myself can do that easily as it requires a special developer key to make any changes. Phil - Original Message - From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3641 - Release Date: 05/16/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1509/3643 - Release Date: 05/17/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://w
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
if he's stoped celling it, is it abanden-where? If so, Could I have a copy? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi Shane, No David Greenwood never put out a demo of the engine. I guess he figured playing Shads of Doom and Bank Commander were demo enough. A while ago David offered to sell the engine or rent it for a specific time. There were about a dozen people who were using the engine to develop games, but so far I'm the only one who has finished them. I used the engine for Pacman Talks, Super Dog's bone hunt and the Sarah game. He has stopped selling or renting the engine at this time. Phil - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Is there a demo availible for this engin? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? hi Alfredo, The GMA engine has it's own scripting language that allows you to write scripts with a regular word processer, save them as a text file and the engine converts that script to a level file that the game can then use. As it was written in visual basic 6 it contains some of the conventions of that language. But it also requires you to have the visual basic libraries on your computer to run correctly, so that either requires a separate download of those libraries, or if bundled in the game itself, requires you to download something you already have in a download that is larger than it needs to be. As for players changing the levels in Sarah, only the developer myself can do that easily as it requires a special developer key to make any changes. Phil - Original Message - From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3641 - Release Date: 05/16/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1509/3643 - Release Date: 05/17/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi Shane, No David Greenwood never put out a demo of the engine. I guess he figured playing Shads of Doom and Bank Commander were demo enough. A while ago David offered to sell the engine or rent it for a specific time. There were about a dozen people who were using the engine to develop games, but so far I'm the only one who has finished them. I used the engine for Pacman Talks, Super Dog's bone hunt and the Sarah game. He has stopped selling or renting the engine at this time. Phil - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Is there a demo availible for this engin? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? hi Alfredo, The GMA engine has it's own scripting language that allows you to write scripts with a regular word processer, save them as a text file and the engine converts that script to a level file that the game can then use. As it was written in visual basic 6 it contains some of the conventions of that language. But it also requires you to have the visual basic libraries on your computer to run correctly, so that either requires a separate download of those libraries, or if bundled in the game itself, requires you to download something you already have in a download that is larger than it needs to be. As for players changing the levels in Sarah, only the developer myself can do that easily as it requires a special developer key to make any changes. Phil - Original Message - From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3641 - Release Date: 05/16/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1509/3643 - Release Date: 05/17/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Is there a demo availible for this engin? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? hi Alfredo, The GMA engine has it's own scripting language that allows you to write scripts with a regular word processer, save them as a text file and the engine converts that script to a level file that the game can then use. As it was written in visual basic 6 it contains some of the conventions of that language. But it also requires you to have the visual basic libraries on your computer to run correctly, so that either requires a separate download of those libraries, or if bundled in the game itself, requires you to download something you already have in a download that is larger than it needs to be. As for players changing the levels in Sarah, only the developer myself can do that easily as it requires a special developer key to make any changes. Phil - Original Message - From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3641 - Release Date: 05/16/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi Alfredo. the gma engine was made a long while before bgt, and while it might have been created in the c++ language which Bgt's angel scripting is based upon, it certainly doesn't use it. it's also a commercial engine which you need to buy yourself, and I believe it is limited only to making first person games like Sarah, packman talks and shades of doom. While you could probably make such games with bgt, the two engines are not really related. Beware the gRue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
hi Alfredo, The GMA engine has it's own scripting language that allows you to write scripts with a regular word processer, save them as a text file and the engine converts that script to a level file that the game can then use. As it was written in visual basic 6 it contains some of the conventions of that language. But it also requires you to have the visual basic libraries on your computer to run correctly, so that either requires a separate download of those libraries, or if bundled in the game itself, requires you to download something you already have in a download that is larger than it needs to be. As for players changing the levels in Sarah, only the developer myself can do that easily as it requires a special developer key to make any changes. Phil - Original Message - From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt? Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3641 - Release Date: 05/16/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] GMA and bgt?
Hi, I am going to ask this because I want to know if they both use Angel script and use the same type of programming, well almost the same programming code b Gt Uses. I heard that the GM engine can be changed so other games on GM can work better, like Sarah, for instance. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
