Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
hmmm gma shouldn't have any issues, they are supposed to have an automated system. they are still active. so either your spam blocker is blocking it or its broken. most likely they are aware of it. but email david g on this and see what is up. if that does not work try phill of pcs, he may be able to help you, maybe. I noticed that with my new box but for whatever reason the id on my old toshiba tecra was the same on my new satelite pro, for whatever reason. heck I am not complaining at all. it means 1 less company to contact. At 11:03 AM 9/5/2013, you wrote: Hi, It's GMA. Thanks. Dave. On 9/4/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: you can blame the hackers and other wonkas for the state of affairs. as an admin I really have issues with security on microfudge and others. a couple months ago, windows decided that it was pirated on one of the remote servers. for a month it said it was alegal then suddenly fixed itself just as I was about to fix everything by reformatting again. After reading simular articles about it on my toshiba it mentioned that if this bios needed to be updated. in march this year the bios was updated because it was crashing with some backup raid drives and such. My suspicians unproven ofcause is that ms never refreshed its database after the upgrade, and managed to go all this time since march till july at least without an issue. there were also some video card and dns issues round that time still is one logged vid issue needing fixing. for all last month ms said we were running an alegal copy of windows and to pay 100 bucks for another key. suddenly a day before I was about to instruct the system to reformat, I would have done it earlier but didn't have the time that week, the system rechecked and fixed its database and has been working floorlessly ever since. Ofcause some of the newer games entombed and some of the draconis systems have a cloud based reg system where you don't get a code its on your account and thats secured with a username and such. I have a program like this for dvd extraction. you have an id and a code. They don't work unless you get an incripted file. you need to login and physically varify yourself and then download the file, and do whatever you need. At 09:45 AM 9/5/2013, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Why would PCS be able to help him? That'd be like contacting Philip Bennefall about a problem with a game written using BGT instead of the developer. Actually, it's the polar opposite, so you know, even less productive. *scratches head thoughtfully* Scott On 9/5/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm gma shouldn't have any issues, they are supposed to have an automated system. they are still active. so either your spam blocker is blocking it or its broken. most likely they are aware of it. but email david g on this and see what is up. if that does not work try phill of pcs, he may be able to help you, maybe. I noticed that with my new box but for whatever reason the id on my old toshiba tecra was the same on my new satelite pro, for whatever reason. heck I am not complaining at all. it means 1 less company to contact. At 11:03 AM 9/5/2013, you wrote: Hi, It's GMA. Thanks. Dave. On 9/4/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: you can blame the hackers and other wonkas for the state of affairs. as an admin I really have issues with security on microfudge and others. a couple months ago, windows decided that it was pirated on one of the remote servers. for a month it said it was alegal then suddenly fixed itself just as I was about to fix everything by reformatting again. After reading simular articles about it on my toshiba it mentioned that if this bios needed to be updated. in march this year the bios was updated because it was crashing with some backup raid drives and such. My suspicians unproven ofcause is that ms never refreshed its database after the upgrade, and managed to go all this time since march till july at least without an issue. there were also some video card and dns issues round that time still is one logged vid issue needing fixing. for all last month ms said we were running an alegal copy of windows and to pay 100 bucks for another key. suddenly a day before I was about to instruct the system to reformat, I would have done it earlier but didn't have the time that week, the system rechecked and fixed its database and has been working floorlessly ever since. Ofcause some of the newer games entombed and some of the draconis systems have a cloud based reg system where you don't get a code its on your account and thats secured with a username and such. I have a program like this for dvd extraction. you have an id and a code. They don't work unless you get an incripted file. you need to login and physically varify yourself and then download the file, and do whatever you need. At 09:45 AM 9/5/2013, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
With the gma titles, if you run the game you will be given a form to fill in to request key replacements. I don't know how automated this process is, but certainly on the two or three occasions I've been through that form myself I've always had a response extremely quickly, within at least a couple of days. If you did go through the form and send all the info, I imagine it might be simply that David greenwood is on holiday, how long as it been sinse you E-mailed them? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hi Scott, One reason to contact me is that I'm on this list and frequently talk to David Greenwood of GMA. He sells my game, Packman and I use his engine on Sarah, so he gets a share of the sales of the games that use it. As to why he hasn't gotten back to Dave, it could be his message is being blocked by Spam filters. I had to add a second email account as some internet providers block my pcs games account. Phil - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant! Why would PCS be able to help him? That'd be like contacting Philip Bennefall about a problem with a game written using BGT instead of the developer. Actually, it's the polar opposite, so you know, even less productive. *scratches head thoughtfully* Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hi, Not only that, but the GMA policy on key replacements is four standard business days excluding weekends and holidays. Although, I've gotten key replacements on the weekend as well and generally have found David Greenwood pretty responsive in answering his mail. I might add when you send a key replacement request you should receive an automated email stating your message was received by GMA sales, and you can expect your replacement key in one to four business days. That's more than fair considering the hardware locking system he is using now requires a human to generate new keys. Cheers! On 9/5/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: With the gma titles, if you run the game you will be given a form to fill in to request key replacements. I don't know how automated this process is, but certainly on the two or three occasions I've been through that form myself I've always had a response extremely quickly, within at least a couple of days. If you did go through the form and send all the info, I imagine it might be simply that David greenwood is on holiday, how long as it been sinse you E-mailed them? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
tell microslug that! between their activation and advantage system its a nightmare for users. everything is online, maybe you could have activation for online componants only. obviously if you need to be online that would be a problem but if you didn't need to then. At 03:17 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom and all, Very much agree with these points, which was why we opted for an online registration system that gives the Windows user the power to activate/deactivate machines as needed. Fortunately, this problem is a non-issue on Mac OS X. I, too, generally avoid software that has been locked too hardware and requires a human to regenerate the key. There are just too many possible points of failure in that arrangement. I think it'd be good for the industry to see developers move toward a more modern system, and ditch the currently standard method of hardware code and requests for emailed keys. In these days of app stores, automatic downloads, and instant gratification, the market won't support the old model foreverÂ…probably not even all that much longer. It's too frustrating and antiquated. On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, I know the feeling, and agree it is extremely infuriating and aggravating. It is for precisely that reason I will never resort to system specific product activations. I think it harms the customer more than it does the pirate who can find ways around such measures in any case. I have even decided not to purchase some software because of that kind of product security. Cheers! On 9/4/13, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hi Folks, I got this message from David Greenwood and he said: In regards to Dave Mehler, he only requested a key yesterday and I state that it can take up to four days. I've sent him his key though. The only thing I can think of is he might have sent another key request a week or so ago. I needed to have my email account reset and I may have lost some mail then. But he didn't mention that he had requested a key previously. If you could pass this on to the list,I'd appreciate it. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant! Hi, Not only that, but the GMA policy on key replacements is four standard business days excluding weekends and holidays. Although, I've gotten key replacements on the weekend as well and generally have found David Greenwood pretty responsive in answering his mail. I might add when you send a key replacement request you should receive an automated email stating your message was received by GMA sales, and you can expect your replacement key in one to four business days. That's more than fair considering the hardware locking system he is using now requires a human to generate new keys. Cheers! On 9/5/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: With the gma titles, if you run the game you will be given a form to fill in to request key replacements. I don't know how automated this process is, but certainly on the two or three occasions I've been through that form myself I've always had a response extremely quickly, within at least a couple of days. If you did go through the form and send all the info, I imagine it might be simply that David greenwood is on holiday, how long as it been sinse you E-mailed them? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3222/6140 - Release Date: 09/05/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
true tom, however sometimes I don't get the automated responce but yeah thats tue. maybe other devs t should handle that a lot used to have a 24 '48 hour turn around. thats fine but if you get really bussy a week is probabaly better. if you have 1 or 2 days at the end where you just send out all your keys rather than sending as they come it makes sence. At 04:32 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi, Not only that, but the GMA policy on key replacements is four standard business days excluding weekends and holidays. Although, I've gotten key replacements on the weekend as well and generally have found David Greenwood pretty responsive in answering his mail. I might add when you send a key replacement request you should receive an automated email stating your message was received by GMA sales, and you can expect your replacement key in one to four business days. That's more than fair considering the hardware locking system he is using now requires a human to generate new keys. Cheers! On 9/5/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: With the gma titles, if you run the game you will be given a form to fill in to request key replacements. I don't know how automated this process is, but certainly on the two or three occasions I've been through that form myself I've always had a response extremely quickly, within at least a couple of days. If you did go through the form and send all the info, I imagine it might be simply that David greenwood is on holiday, how long as it been sinse you E-mailed them? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hello, Thanks to everyone for putting up with my rant. To finish off this story, I have been in contact with David Greenwood and neither of us knows why my previous communications didn't go through, but we are now talking. I am very confident that this issue shal be resolved soon. Sorry to take up list time. Thanks. Dave. On 9/5/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: true tom, however sometimes I don't get the automated responce but yeah thats tue. maybe other devs t should handle that a lot used to have a 24 '48 hour turn around. thats fine but if you get really bussy a week is probabaly better. if you have 1 or 2 days at the end where you just send out all your keys rather than sending as they come it makes sence. At 04:32 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi, Not only that, but the GMA policy on key replacements is four standard business days excluding weekends and holidays. Although, I've gotten key replacements on the weekend as well and generally have found David Greenwood pretty responsive in answering his mail. I might add when you send a key replacement request you should receive an automated email stating your message was received by GMA sales, and you can expect your replacement key in one to four business days. That's more than fair considering the hardware locking system he is using now requires a human to generate new keys. Cheers! On 9/5/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: With the gma titles, if you run the game you will be given a form to fill in to request key replacements. I don't know how automated this process is, but certainly on the two or three occasions I've been through that form myself I've always had a response extremely quickly, within at least a couple of days. If you did go through the form and send all the info, I imagine it might be simply that David greenwood is on holiday, how long as it been sinse you E-mailed them? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hi Tom and all, Very much agree with these points, which was why we opted for an online registration system that gives the Windows user the power to activate/deactivate machines as needed. Fortunately, this problem is a non-issue on Mac OS X. I, too, generally avoid software that has been locked too hardware and requires a human to regenerate the key. There are just too many possible points of failure in that arrangement. I think it'd be good for the industry to see developers move toward a more modern system, and ditch the currently standard method of hardware code and requests for emailed keys. In these days of app stores, automatic downloads, and instant gratification, the market won't support the old model forever…probably not even all that much longer. It's too frustrating and antiquated. On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, I know the feeling, and agree it is extremely infuriating and aggravating. It is for precisely that reason I will never resort to system specific product activations. I think it harms the customer more than it does the pirate who can find ways around such measures in any case. I have even decided not to purchase some software because of that kind of product security. Cheers! On 9/4/13, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
well I have been on the lworks site, liam is aware of the issue. it seems his webhost hates him or something because his mail is just not getting to him. he has gmail so in theory that shouldn't matter, but he is busy and probably doesn't have the time to check it all the time who knows. Myself I think he should automate his registration process for every game he has or have someone handle his reg system for him I'd happily do it for nothing. his games are really good so is he. but his email seems to give him issues for all we know something at his end is stopping him getting mail. At 09:58 AM 9/5/2013, you wrote: Hey Dave, First thing, sorry you're having trouble man. Assuming the developer isn't one that's known to be unresponsive, does actually do key replacements, you've gone through all the contact options and given them a reasonable timeframe to respond (a couple of weeks all told seems to be what's seen as reasonable here), I can't see naming them being a bad thing. If nothing else, it'll be something to keep in mind for people interested in purchasing titles from them in future. Just my two cents. I'm sure if a mod disagrees then they'll speak up quickly. Scott On 9/4/13, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hey Dave, First thing, sorry you're having trouble man. Assuming the developer isn't one that's known to be unresponsive, does actually do key replacements, you've gone through all the contact options and given them a reasonable timeframe to respond (a couple of weeks all told seems to be what's seen as reasonable here), I can't see naming them being a bad thing. If nothing else, it'll be something to keep in mind for people interested in purchasing titles from them in future. Just my two cents. I'm sure if a mod disagrees then they'll speak up quickly. Scott On 9/4/13, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
you can blame the hackers and other wonkas for the state of affairs. as an admin I really have issues with security on microfudge and others. a couple months ago, windows decided that it was pirated on one of the remote servers. for a month it said it was alegal then suddenly fixed itself just as I was about to fix everything by reformatting again. After reading simular articles about it on my toshiba it mentioned that if this bios needed to be updated. in march this year the bios was updated because it was crashing with some backup raid drives and such. My suspicians unproven ofcause is that ms never refreshed its database after the upgrade, and managed to go all this time since march till july at least without an issue. there were also some video card and dns issues round that time still is one logged vid issue needing fixing. for all last month ms said we were running an alegal copy of windows and to pay 100 bucks for another key. suddenly a day before I was about to instruct the system to reformat, I would have done it earlier but didn't have the time that week, the system rechecked and fixed its database and has been working floorlessly ever since. Ofcause some of the newer games entombed and some of the draconis systems have a cloud based reg system where you don't get a code its on your account and thats secured with a username and such. I have a program like this for dvd extraction. you have an id and a code. They don't work unless you get an incripted file. you need to login and physically varify yourself and then download the file, and do whatever you need. At 09:45 AM 9/5/2013, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hi, It's GMA. Thanks. Dave. On 9/4/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: you can blame the hackers and other wonkas for the state of affairs. as an admin I really have issues with security on microfudge and others. a couple months ago, windows decided that it was pirated on one of the remote servers. for a month it said it was alegal then suddenly fixed itself just as I was about to fix everything by reformatting again. After reading simular articles about it on my toshiba it mentioned that if this bios needed to be updated. in march this year the bios was updated because it was crashing with some backup raid drives and such. My suspicians unproven ofcause is that ms never refreshed its database after the upgrade, and managed to go all this time since march till july at least without an issue. there were also some video card and dns issues round that time still is one logged vid issue needing fixing. for all last month ms said we were running an alegal copy of windows and to pay 100 bucks for another key. suddenly a day before I was about to instruct the system to reformat, I would have done it earlier but didn't have the time that week, the system rechecked and fixed its database and has been working floorlessly ever since. Ofcause some of the newer games entombed and some of the draconis systems have a cloud based reg system where you don't get a code its on your account and thats secured with a username and such. I have a program like this for dvd extraction. you have an id and a code. They don't work unless you get an incripted file. you need to login and physically varify yourself and then download the file, and do whatever you need. At 09:45 AM 9/5/2013, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Hi Dave, I know the feeling, and agree it is extremely infuriating and aggravating. It is for precisely that reason I will never resort to system specific product activations. I think it harms the customer more than it does the pirate who can find ways around such measures in any case. I have even decided not to purchase some software because of that kind of product security. Cheers! On 9/4/13, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm about to rant, so if your not in to that please delete this message. I am so annoyed right now at companies, who do things to tighten their security and make their products unusable. In the old days you had a key and that was it. Now you've got to register your product, then activate it, and god forbid you don't have an internet connection up at the time. The reason I'm on this kick is I purchased a game several years back from a accessible game company, I won't name them, and played it very well on my 32 bit xp system. Well, they tie the game to that system, so that when I took that purchased game via USB thumb drive and installed it on the new box, the key which I had when I purchased does not work. I'm therefor unable to play in anything other than demo mode, and the dev won't get back to me. Infuriating and aggravating! Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Wow. I've always found GMA to be extremely quick to respond; what measures have you taken to contact them? - Original Message - From: David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 19:03:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant! Hi, It's GMA. Thanks. Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Same, always within 48 hours at the longest. The one exception I can think of is when there was some dispute as to whether a key swap had taken place, but even then, GMA were happy to talk and resolve rather than avoid the issue. Interesting that it's not one of the names that pops up all too often in these discussions. Good luck Dave, hope you get it worked out dude. Scott On 9/5/13, john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net wrote: Wow. I've always found GMA to be extremely quick to respond; what measures have you taken to contact them? - Original Message - From: David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 19:03:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant! Hi, It's GMA. Thanks. Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Same here. Usually GMA is pretty reliable about replacement keys. They are one of the few game developers I actually don't gripe about when it comes to hardware keys. At least not usually. :D Cheers! On 9/4/13, john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net wrote: Wow. I've always found GMA to be extremely quick to respond; what measures have you taken to contact them? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
On 9/4/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Same here. Usually GMA is pretty reliable about replacement keys. They are one of the few game developers I actually don't gripe about when it comes to hardware keys. At least not usually. :D Cheers! On 9/4/13, john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net wrote: Wow. I've always found GMA to be extremely quick to respond; what measures have you taken to contact them? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Hi, I, myself, have never had an issue with GMA games either. They have always responded in a very timely manner. I suggest to give them a couple of more days, and then try contacting them again. Jesse G --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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All I found is what others had sent, which I had already gone through. You didn't add anything that I noticed. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Jesse Gaona jesse.gaon...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant! On 9/4/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Same here. Usually GMA is pretty reliable about replacement keys. They are one of the few game developers I actually don't gripe about when it comes to hardware keys. At least not usually. :D Cheers! On 9/4/13, john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net wrote: Wow. I've always found GMA to be extremely quick to respond; what measures have you taken to contact them? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Hi, I, myself, have never had an issue with GMA games either. They have always responded in a very timely manner. I suggest to give them a couple of more days, and then try contacting them again. Jesse G --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant!
Charles, He did have a message at the bottom of the email chain. I always prefer when new messages are at the top of the chain though. Jesse, you can usually change this setting in your mail client, or just press control + Home to get your cursor to the top of the email chain so your new message shows up first. Cheers! Where everybody knows your name... Ian Reed Try my free games at http://BlindAudioGames.com On 9/4/2013 8:17 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: All I found is what others had sent, which I had already gone through. You didn't add anything that I noticed. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Jesse Gaona jesse.gaon...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game code/tying to a system/activation rant! On 9/4/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Same here. Usually GMA is pretty reliable about replacement keys. They are one of the few game developers I actually don't gripe about when it comes to hardware keys. At least not usually. :D Cheers! On 9/4/13, john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net wrote: Wow. I've always found GMA to be extremely quick to respond; what measures have you taken to contact them? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Hi, I, myself, have never had an issue with GMA games either. They have always responded in a very timely manner. I suggest to give them a couple of more days, and then try contacting them again. Jesse G --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
