Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Well, I'd imagine so. Generally I deal with  full retail versions of
Windows, but I'm sure the OEM versions of Windows that ship with a PC
should have the System Tools setup on the disc as well. The only case
I can think of where they would not be on the cd/dvd is the new OEM
versions that are installed from a partition instead of a physical cd
or dvd disc. As we are beginning to stray off topic here any more
questions about the Windows System Tools should be addressed to me off
list.

Cheers!


On 10/17/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 is that on any xp disk?
 I will have a look.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Mich
Hi Tom. I tried to do what you had set out in your message to all of us but 
I have been finding that I am getting stuck. what I did was I went in to my 
computer in to the local disk c then created a new folder cald test then I 
tried coppeying all the files from the usa games folder from my program 
files in to that folder. then I went in to run and typed in cmd and that is 
where I am getting stuck since I can't seem to figger out what to do next. I 
tried looking around using the tab key  for the folder and couldn't find it. 
I also tried just putting in the.exe file in the folder I cald test and when 
I  went back in to run and typed cmd and still I couldn't find it. note I 
had to reboot each time since I couldn't figger out how to get out of the 
cmd when I put it in to run. I have notest that I get the blue screen when I 
try to exit the game and my pc re starts. I am running windows xp sp 3 if 
that helps. If you could possibly tell me where I went wrong with trying to 
find the error messages that would be grate. many thanks. from Mich.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:26 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Something to try



HI all,
Tonight while debugging/testing Mysteries of the Ancients I realised
there is still something we haven't tried to do in order to track down
that blue screen error. Most of you don't know this but cross-platform
libraries such as SFML often out put error messages directly to the
console, or in Windows the command prompt. Since most of us are use to
dialog boxes, message boxes, and all the other Windows trappings I
doubt it ocurred to anyone before now to try and launch the program
from the command prompt to see if there are any error codes etc
printed to the screen. So that's what we need to do.
What I would do if I were you guys is copy the installation files to a
test directory like c:\test
and then open the command prompt window by typing cmd into the run
dialog box and pressing enter. Now, for you Windows newbies that know
nothing about Dos commands change to the test directory we created by
doing a
cd\test
and pressing enter. Now, simply type tomb and press enter. The game
should launch and play. When you exit the game there should be error
messages printed to the screen if there were any encountered. Let me
know your results.

Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread clement chou
With cmd, what you need to do is act like t was a dos machine. Which is to 
say that all your comands have to be typed out. So to start the game, you 
would type the direct path to the file.. so C:\test\filename for the 
game.exe. I don't know what the actual file name is, hence the file name of 
the game substitution. And to exit command prompt, just type exit.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Something to try


Hi Tom. I tried to do what you had set out in your message to all of us 
but I have been finding that I am getting stuck. what I did was I went in 
to my computer in to the local disk c then created a new folder cald test 
then I tried coppeying all the files from the usa games folder from my 
program files in to that folder. then I went in to run and typed in cmd 
and that is where I am getting stuck since I can't seem to figger out what 
to do next. I tried looking around using the tab key  for the folder and 
couldn't find it. I also tried just putting in the.exe file in the folder 
I cald test and when I  went back in to run and typed cmd and still I 
couldn't find it. note I had to reboot each time since I couldn't figger 
out how to get out of the cmd when I put it in to run. I have notest that 
I get the blue screen when I try to exit the game and my pc re starts. I 
am running windows xp sp 3 if that helps. If you could possibly tell me 
where I went wrong with trying to find the error messages that would be 
grate. many thanks. from Mich.
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:26 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Something to try



HI all,
Tonight while debugging/testing Mysteries of the Ancients I realised
there is still something we haven't tried to do in order to track down
that blue screen error. Most of you don't know this but cross-platform
libraries such as SFML often out put error messages directly to the
console, or in Windows the command prompt. Since most of us are use to
dialog boxes, message boxes, and all the other Windows trappings I
doubt it ocurred to anyone before now to try and launch the program
from the command prompt to see if there are any error codes etc
printed to the screen. So that's what we need to do.
What I would do if I were you guys is copy the installation files to a
test directory like c:\test
and then open the command prompt window by typing cmd into the run
dialog box and pressing enter. Now, for you Windows newbies that know
nothing about Dos commands change to the test directory we created by
doing a
cd\test
and pressing enter. Now, simply type tomb and press enter. The game
should launch and play. When you exit the game there should be error
messages printed to the screen if there were any encountered. Let me
know your results.

Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Shane Lowe

Nothing wrong with it on my end.

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Subject: [Audyssey] Something to try



HI all,
Tonight while debugging/testing Mysteries of the Ancients I realised
there is still something we haven't tried to do in order to track down
that blue screen error. Most of you don't know this but cross-platform
libraries such as SFML often out put error messages directly to the
console, or in Windows the command prompt. Since most of us are use to
dialog boxes, message boxes, and all the other Windows trappings I
doubt it ocurred to anyone before now to try and launch the program
from the command prompt to see if there are any error codes etc
printed to the screen. So that's what we need to do.
What I would do if I were you guys is copy the installation files to a
test directory like c:\test
and then open the command prompt window by typing cmd into the run
dialog box and pressing enter. Now, for you Windows newbies that know
nothing about Dos commands change to the test directory we created by
doing a
cd\test
and pressing enter. Now, simply type tomb and press enter. The game
should launch and play. When you exit the game there should be error
messages printed to the screen if there were any encountered. Let me
know your results.

Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Willem Venter
Hi thomas.

I went to the sidescroler directory and did a tomb.exe error.txt, but
the file was empty when the computer rebooted. If it writes to stderr
then I'm not sure how to get at it.

On 10/16/10, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote:
 Nothing wrong with it on my end.

 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:26 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Something to try


 HI all,
 Tonight while debugging/testing Mysteries of the Ancients I realised
 there is still something we haven't tried to do in order to track down
 that blue screen error. Most of you don't know this but cross-platform
 libraries such as SFML often out put error messages directly to the
 console, or in Windows the command prompt. Since most of us are use to
 dialog boxes, message boxes, and all the other Windows trappings I
 doubt it ocurred to anyone before now to try and launch the program
 from the command prompt to see if there are any error codes etc
 printed to the screen. So that's what we need to do.
 What I would do if I were you guys is copy the installation files to a
 test directory like c:\test
 and then open the command prompt window by typing cmd into the run
 dialog box and pressing enter. Now, for you Windows newbies that know
 nothing about Dos commands change to the test directory we created by
 doing a
 cd\test
 and pressing enter. Now, simply type tomb and press enter. The game
 should launch and play. When you exit the game there should be error
 messages printed to the screen if there were any encountered. Let me
 know your results.

 Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Hi,

This was the first thing I did when hearing others get blue screens. I 
personally never got one, and didn't get a single error. I also 
redirected the output to a file, though that was completely empty and no 
errors occured.

Kevin

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From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:37:57 +0200
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

 Hi thomas.
 
 I went to the sidescroler directory and did a tomb.exe error.txt, but
 the file was empty when the computer rebooted. If it writes to stderr
 then I'm not sure how to get at it.
 
 On 10/16/10, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote:
  Nothing wrong with it on my end.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
  To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
  Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:26 AM
  Subject: [Audyssey] Something to try
 
 
  HI all,
  Tonight while debugging/testing Mysteries of the Ancients I realised
  there is still something we haven't tried to do in order to track down
  that blue screen error. Most of you don't know this but cross-platform
  libraries such as SFML often out put error messages directly to the
  console, or in Windows the command prompt. Since most of us are use to
  dialog boxes, message boxes, and all the other Windows trappings I
  doubt it ocurred to anyone before now to try and launch the program
  from the command prompt to see if there are any error codes etc
  printed to the screen. So that's what we need to do.
  What I would do if I were you guys is copy the installation files to a
  test directory like c:\test
  and then open the command prompt window by typing cmd into the run
  dialog box and pressing enter. Now, for you Windows newbies that know
  nothing about Dos commands change to the test directory we created by
  doing a
  cd\test
  and pressing enter. Now, simply type tomb and press enter. The game
  should launch and play. When you exit the game there should be error
  messages printed to the screen if there were any encountered. Let me
  know your results.
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Valiant8086
Hi.
Do you have jaws? Maybe someone, like me, could tandem you and try it.
 

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Mich
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:38 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

Hi Tom. I tried to do what you had set out in your message to all of us but
I have been finding that I am getting stuck. what I did was I went in to my
computer in to the local disk c then created a new folder cald test then I
tried coppeying all the files from the usa games folder from my program
files in to that folder. then I went in to run and typed in cmd and that is
where I am getting stuck since I can't seem to figger out what to do next. I
tried looking around using the tab key  for the folder and couldn't find it.

I also tried just putting in the.exe file in the folder I cald test and when
I  went back in to run and typed cmd and still I couldn't find it. note I
had to reboot each time since I couldn't figger out how to get out of the
cmd when I put it in to run. I have notest that I get the blue screen when I
try to exit the game and my pc re starts. I am running windows xp sp 3 if
that helps. If you could possibly tell me where I went wrong with trying to
find the error messages that would be grate. many thanks. from Mich.
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:26 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Something to try


 HI all,
 Tonight while debugging/testing Mysteries of the Ancients I realised 
 there is still something we haven't tried to do in order to track down 
 that blue screen error. Most of you don't know this but cross-platform 
 libraries such as SFML often out put error messages directly to the 
 console, or in Windows the command prompt. Since most of us are use to 
 dialog boxes, message boxes, and all the other Windows trappings I 
 doubt it ocurred to anyone before now to try and launch the program 
 from the command prompt to see if there are any error codes etc 
 printed to the screen. So that's what we need to do.
 What I would do if I were you guys is copy the installation files to a 
 test directory like c:\test and then open the command prompt window by 
 typing cmd into the run dialog box and pressing enter. Now, for you 
 Windows newbies that know nothing about Dos commands change to the 
 test directory we created by doing a cd\test and pressing enter. Now, 
 simply type tomb and press enter. The game should launch and play. 
 When you exit the game there should be error messages printed to the 
 screen if there were any encountered. Let me know your results.

 Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kevin,
Well, it stands to reason if you aren't getting any errors and the
game isn't crashing on exit there wouldn't be any error messages to
redirect to a file either. The same seams to be true for the debugger.
I tried debugging it using the Visual C++ and the MinGW debuggers and
according to them all the exit codes were perfect. No stray pointers,
memory is properly freed up on exit, and everything shuts down
normally. However, the fact some people are getting a stop error, AKA
Blue Screen of Death, something is obviously not as perfect as the
debugger would have me believe. Although, if I could actually get the
stop error code from some of these crashes I could research it with
Microsoft's MSDN Library for a cause. However, stop errors of that
sort are usually the result of hard ware failure not software failure.

On 10/16/10, Kevin Weispfennig weis...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 This was the first thing I did when hearing others get blue screens. I
 personally never got one, and didn't get a single error. I also
 redirected the output to a file, though that was completely empty and no
 errors occured.

 Kevin

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Willem,
Hmmm...Ok, that was just a hunch of mine. Is there any possibility any
of you can actually get the stop error code?
What I'm talking about is when the blue screen comes up it will
present you with a stop error code. Usually it is a hex code starting
with 0x.  If I could get that hex code I can research the cause of the
problem and determine if the problem is hardware or software related.
Windows generally doesn't blue screen and produce a stop error unless
there is something very seriously wrong with your system. As I can't
in anyway shape or form reproduce the bug there has to be something
about your computers the game just doesn't like,or more correctly,
something your computer doesn't like about my game. Getting that stop
error code is essential in determining why Windows is crashing when
the program exits.


On 10/16/10, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi thomas.

 I went to the sidescroler directory and did a tomb.exe error.txt, but
 the file was empty when the computer rebooted. If it writes to stderr
 then I'm not sure how to get at it.


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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Mich,
The Windows command prompt is like using Dos. That means you have to
type shell comands into the command prompt to get around. I gave
directions in my original message what to do.
To change directory you use the cd command. For example,
cd\test
will open the test directory.
To close the command prompt window you have to type
exit
and the window will close. There is definitely no need to reboot your computer.

Cheers!


On 10/16/10, Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca wrote:
 Hi Tom. I tried to do what you had set out in your message to all of us but
 I have been finding that I am getting stuck. what I did was I went in to my
 computer in to the local disk c then created a new folder cald test then I
 tried coppeying all the files from the usa games folder from my program
 files in to that folder. then I went in to run and typed in cmd and that is
 where I am getting stuck since I can't seem to figger out what to do next. I
 tried looking around using the tab key  for the folder and couldn't find it.
 I also tried just putting in the.exe file in the folder I cald test and when
 I  went back in to run and typed cmd and still I couldn't find it. note I
 had to reboot each time since I couldn't figger out how to get out of the
 cmd when I put it in to run. I have notest that I get the blue screen when I
 try to exit the game and my pc re starts. I am running windows xp sp 3 if
 that helps. If you could possibly tell me where I went wrong with trying to
 find the error messages that would be grate. many thanks. from Mich.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Mich
Hi Tom I to had the same problum. I was able to open the game using the 
windows command prompt and then going in to the test folder that I made for 
the game the problem happened when I hit the x key to exit the game my pc re 
started and it gave me the blue screen of death and I couldn't get the error 
message.  from Mich.
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Hi Willem,
Hmmm...Ok, that was just a hunch of mine. Is there any possibility any
of you can actually get the stop error code?
What I'm talking about is when the blue screen comes up it will
present you with a stop error code. Usually it is a hex code starting
with 0x.  If I could get that hex code I can research the cause of the
problem and determine if the problem is hardware or software related.
Windows generally doesn't blue screen and produce a stop error unless
there is something very seriously wrong with your system. As I can't
in anyway shape or form reproduce the bug there has to be something
about your computers the game just doesn't like,or more correctly,
something your computer doesn't like about my game. Getting that stop
error code is essential in determining why Windows is crashing when
the program exits.


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Hi thomas.

I went to the sidescroler directory and did a tomb.exe error.txt, but
the file was empty when the computer rebooted. If it writes to stderr
then I'm not sure how to get at it.



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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Mich,
Send me a copy of the Windows dump file to my gmail.com address. I'll
try and extract the necessary information that way.

On 10/16/10, Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca wrote:
 Hi Tom I to had the same problum. I was able to open the game using the
 windows command prompt and then going in to the test folder that I made for
 the game the problem happened when I hit the x key to exit the game my pc re
 started and it gave me the blue screen of death and I couldn't get the error
 message.  from Mich.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Mich

Hi Tom. where would I find that file? many thanks. from Mich.
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Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 2:45 PM
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Hi Mich,
Send me a copy of the Windows dump file to my gmail.com address. I'll
try and extract the necessary information that way.

On 10/16/10, Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca wrote:

Hi Tom I to had the same problum. I was able to open the game using the
windows command prompt and then going in to the test folder that I made 
for
the game the problem happened when I hit the x key to exit the game my pc 
re
started and it gave me the blue screen of death and I couldn't get the 
error

message.  from Mich.


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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Mich,
Usually, Windows places the results of a blue screen in a minidump
file located in
c:\Windows\Minidump.
The files are usually dated as well. For example, a system crash for
today would be called something like
Mini101610-01.dmp
which would be todays date and the first saved crash  for that date.
The crash reports can be recovered by a program called dumpchk which
basically reads back the state of the system at the time of the crash.
So if you can send me the latest dmp file or so that would help.

Cheers!


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 Hi Tom. where would I find that file? many thanks. from Mich.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread shaun everiss

where can you download this tom I'll try to send you things.
At 08:19 a.m. 17/10/2010, you wrote:

Hi Mich,
Usually, Windows places the results of a blue screen in a minidump
file located in
c:\Windows\Minidump.
The files are usually dated as well. For example, a system crash for
today would be called something like
Mini101610-01.dmp
which would be todays date and the first saved crash  for that date.
The crash reports can be recovered by a program called dumpchk which
basically reads back the state of the system at the time of the crash.
So if you can send me the latest dmp file or so that would help.

Cheers!


On 10/16/10, Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca wrote:
 Hi Tom. where would I find that file? many thanks. from Mich.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,
Download what? Please specify what you want to download?

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 where can you download this tom I'll try to send you things.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread shaun everiss
oh I wandered about the dumpchk program it sounded nice to process my 
own dumps and see what went on.

it could be a good diagnostic for me when I fix computers.
At 02:35 p.m. 17/10/2010, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,
Download what? Please specify what you want to download?

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 where can you download this tom I'll try to send you things.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
I see. The dump check utility is a part of the Microsoft System Tools
package. It is an optional package for Windows XP. You can find a copy
on your Windows XP cd. Just insert the XP cd go to System\Tools\Setup
and install them.

HTH


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 it could be a good diagnostic for me when I fix computers.

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Re: [Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-16 Thread shaun everiss

is that on any xp disk?
I will have a look.
At 02:47 p.m. 17/10/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
I see. The dump check utility is a part of the Microsoft System Tools
package. It is an optional package for Windows XP. You can find a copy
on your Windows XP cd. Just insert the XP cd go to System\Tools\Setup
and install them.

HTH


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 own dumps and see what went on.
 it could be a good diagnostic for me when I fix computers.

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[Audyssey] Something to try

2010-10-15 Thread Thomas Ward
HI all,
Tonight while debugging/testing Mysteries of the Ancients I realised
there is still something we haven't tried to do in order to track down
that blue screen error. Most of you don't know this but cross-platform
libraries such as SFML often out put error messages directly to the
console, or in Windows the command prompt. Since most of us are use to
dialog boxes, message boxes, and all the other Windows trappings I
doubt it ocurred to anyone before now to try and launch the program
from the command prompt to see if there are any error codes etc
printed to the screen. So that's what we need to do.
What I would do if I were you guys is copy the installation files to a
test directory like c:\test
 and then open the command prompt window by typing cmd into the run
dialog box and pressing enter. Now, for you Windows newbies that know
nothing about Dos commands change to the test directory we created by
doing a
cd\test
and pressing enter. Now, simply type tomb and press enter. The game
should launch and play. When you exit the game there should be error
messages printed to the screen if there were any encountered. Let me
know your results.

Thanks.

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