Re: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4

2008-10-05 Thread dark

Hi Alex.

At the top of the ship combat screen is some information, whether you've got 
reinforcements coming and how many rounds until they arrive, your shields, 
and your opponent's shields, and whether enemy reinforcements are on the 
way.


Then, going down the ship combat screen the options appear like this:

"fire guns"
"Start missiles"
"Use Ecm to destroy enemy missiles"
"ship's special ability"
then is a heading "Combat abilities"
with your combat abilities such as diciplin, taunt or focus beam undernieth.

that's how it appears with hal anyway. I know che martin was thinking of 
writing a jaws script for the game, which would be helpful if it's this 
problematic with Jaws. I also know though that shadowdragon has managed to 
play a lot of the game using Jaws, so hopefully either way there's a way 
round.


all the best,

Dark.
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hi.
i have activated compatibility mode.
as there is that anoying thing at the top of the screen that says 
compatibility mode for visually impaired players and then something about 
turning it off.
i can now find the guns option consistently when using the jaws cursor, 
however i am having serious problems trying to click other options in the 
combat screen such as the one that lets you activate things that aren't 
directly firing weapons i forget what its called as its like 4 in the 
morning here, as other options just get in the way.
my problem is focusing the damb options because i frequently find for 
example that bits of some options are on lines with ones that i want to 
click, and i just can't focus on them.
i am really thinking of asking for my money back unless i can get in touch 
with neils bower to talk to him about my problems, or unless someone else 
has a solution to my problems.
my personal oppinion is that its great he's trying to build in 
accessibility, but the smugglers interface was not designed with blind 
people in mind, as a result massive use of the jaws cursor makes 
navigating around options a lot harder than it really should be. i think 
if he wants to build in accessibility maybe we should all politely try to 
get him to join this list, and then enter into a discussion with him about 
designing a completely new interface for blind players that would take 
advantage of using the pc cursor, list boxes and conventional menus.
the other thing that also really anoys me with the combat system is having 
to click continue after every damb thing like firing a gun or missile 
there is just no need for it.

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Re: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4

2008-10-04 Thread shaun everiss
even better make everything some sort of self voicing audio game.
At 04:53 p.m. 5/10/2008, you wrote:
>hi.
>i have activated compatibility mode.
>as there is that anoying thing at the top of the screen that says 
>compatibility mode for visually impaired players and then something about 
>turning it off.
>i can now find the guns option consistently when using the jaws cursor, 
>however i am having serious problems trying to click other options in the 
>combat screen such as the one that lets you activate things that aren't 
>directly firing weapons i forget what its called as its like 4 in the morning 
>here, as other options just get in the way.
>my problem is focusing the damb options because i frequently find for example 
>that bits of some options are on lines with ones that i want to click, and i 
>just can't focus on them.
>i am really thinking of asking for my money back unless i can get in touch 
>with neils bower to talk to him about my problems, or unless someone else has 
>a solution to my problems.
>my personal oppinion is that its great he's trying to build in accessibility, 
>but the smugglers interface was not designed with blind people in mind, as a 
>result massive use of the jaws cursor makes navigating around options a lot 
>harder than it really should be. i think if he wants to build in accessibility 
>maybe we should all politely try to get him to join this list, and then enter 
>into a discussion with him about designing a completely new interface for 
>blind players that would take advantage of using the pc cursor, list boxes and 
>conventional menus.
>the other thing that also really anoys me with the combat system is having to 
>click continue after every damb thing like firing a gun or missile there is 
>just no need for it.
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Re: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4

2008-10-04 Thread matheus
hi alex. where do you find these options menu? i searched, wen the game
starts here don't appear a options menu, just start tutorial, start
game, highscores load game.. i start a new game, but noting of options,
where you find it? thanks for the help.
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De: "alex wallis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: 
Data: Domingo, 5 de Outubro de 2008 04:53
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4

hi.
i have activated compatibility mode.
as there is that anoying thing at the top of the screen that says compatibility 
mode for visually impaired players and then something about turning it off.
i can now find the guns option consistently when using the jaws cursor, however 
i am having serious problems trying to click other options in the combat screen 
such as the one that lets you activate things that aren't directly firing 
weapons i forget 
what its called as its like 4 in the morning here, as other options just get in 
the way.
my problem is focusing the damb options because i frequently find for example 
that bits of some options are on lines with ones that i want to click, and i 
just can't focus on them.
i am really thinking of asking for my money back unless i can get in touch with 
neils bower to talk to him about my problems, or unless someone else has a 
solution to my problems.
my personal oppinion is that its great he's trying to build in accessibility, 
but the smugglers interface was not designed with blind people in mind, as a 
result massive use of the jaws cursor makes navigating around options a lot 
harder than it reall
y should be. i think if he wants to build in accessibility maybe we should all 
politely try to get him to join this list, and then enter into a discussion 
with him about designing a completely new interface for blind players that 
would take advantage 
of using the pc cursor, list boxes and conventional menus.
the other thing that also really anoys me with the combat system is having to 
click continue after every damb thing like firing a gun or missile there is 
just no need for it.
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Re: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4

2008-10-04 Thread alex wallis
hi.
i have activated compatibility mode.
as there is that anoying thing at the top of the screen that says compatibility 
mode for visually impaired players and then something about turning it off.
i can now find the guns option consistently when using the jaws cursor, however 
i am having serious problems trying to click other options in the combat screen 
such as the one that lets you activate things that aren't directly firing 
weapons i forget what its called as its like 4 in the morning here, as other 
options just get in the way.
my problem is focusing the damb options because i frequently find for example 
that bits of some options are on lines with ones that i want to click, and i 
just can't focus on them.
i am really thinking of asking for my money back unless i can get in touch with 
neils bower to talk to him about my problems, or unless someone else has a 
solution to my problems.
my personal oppinion is that its great he's trying to build in accessibility, 
but the smugglers interface was not designed with blind people in mind, as a 
result massive use of the jaws cursor makes navigating around options a lot 
harder than it really should be. i think if he wants to build in accessibility 
maybe we should all politely try to get him to join this list, and then enter 
into a discussion with him about designing a completely new interface for blind 
players that would take advantage of using the pc cursor, list boxes and 
conventional menus.
the other thing that also really anoys me with the combat system is having to 
click continue after every damb thing like firing a gun or missile there is 
just no need for it.
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Re: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4

2008-10-04 Thread Tj
Does anyone else have the problem, compatibility mode on, when like your'e 
at earth and say jupitor or some other planet doesn't appear on the screen, 
but is a graphic?  I know that it's accessible and what not, but for some 
reason some plannets just vanish from my screen.
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Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4



Hi Alex.

the ship combat screen is fully accessible, however please note you have 
to activate compatibility mode first in the options screen, if you haven't 
done this, combat will be very difficult indeed, and several options on 
the main screen will be unreadable as well.


Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.

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From: "alex wallis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4



i got my copy of smugglers 4 registered eventually.
however now i'm having fun with ship to ship combat.
i actually find this system a hell of a lot less user friendly than the 
one in smugglers 3.
my main problem is actually focusing on options with the jaws cursor in 
order to click them.
for example, i no my ship has guns but i find it virtually impossible to 
find the guns option to click them.
also, i'm finding that several options at least according to jaws are 
read over several lines like the trackter beam options.
my other main problem is that if i find a line on that has an option i 
want to click, and i have the jaws cursor on, when i use control left or 
control right to try to jump across the line to click it i get jumped to 
completely different bits of the screen.

so is the ship combat screen one that still has to be made accessible?
or is this one he has claimed to have made accessible as i really am not 
finding this screen friendly. a drop down menu would have been far more 
easy to work with or a few menus. if this screen is one he has said is 
accessible i want my money back.

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Re: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4

2008-10-04 Thread dark

Hi Alex.

the ship combat screen is fully accessible, however please note you have to 
activate compatibility mode first in the options screen, if you haven't done 
this, combat will be very difficult indeed, and several options on the main 
screen will be unreadable as well.


Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.

- Original Message - 
From: "alex wallis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4



i got my copy of smugglers 4 registered eventually.
however now i'm having fun with ship to ship combat.
i actually find this system a hell of a lot less user friendly than the 
one in smugglers 3.
my main problem is actually focusing on options with the jaws cursor in 
order to click them.
for example, i no my ship has guns but i find it virtually impossible to 
find the guns option to click them.
also, i'm finding that several options at least according to jaws are read 
over several lines like the trackter beam options.
my other main problem is that if i find a line on that has an option i 
want to click, and i have the jaws cursor on, when i use control left or 
control right to try to jump across the line to click it i get jumped to 
completely different bits of the screen.

so is the ship combat screen one that still has to be made accessible?
or is this one he has claimed to have made accessible as i really am not 
finding this screen friendly. a drop down menu would have been far more 
easy to work with or a few menus. if this screen is one he has said is 
accessible i want my money back.

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[Audyssey] ship combat in smugglers 4

2008-10-04 Thread alex wallis
i got my copy of smugglers 4 registered eventually.
however now i'm having fun with ship to ship combat.
i actually find this system a hell of a lot less user friendly than the one in 
smugglers 3.
my main problem is actually focusing on options with the jaws cursor in order 
to click them.
for example, i no my ship has guns but i find it virtually impossible to find 
the guns option to click them.
also, i'm finding that several options at least according to jaws are read over 
several lines like the trackter beam options.
my other main problem is that if i find a line on that has an option i want to 
click, and i have the jaws cursor on, when i use control left or control right 
to try to jump across the line to click it i get jumped to completely different 
bits of the screen.
so is the ship combat screen one that still has to be made accessible?
or is this one he has claimed to have made accessible as i really am not 
finding this screen friendly. a drop down menu would have been far more easy to 
work with or a few menus. if this screen is one he has said is accessible i 
want my money back.
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