Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-20 Thread shaun everiss
yeah one of those would be cool, we did have torrent by surreal 
horisons but since it was never released and even if someone gave you 
the now dead beta it would have to be cracked to get activated and 
since the owner of sr just up and left there is no chance we will 
ever see the game.
A pitty since the game uses the dolphin sam engine for synth support, 
and as far as I know no one uses that system at all.
Since it uses sam support, I could run braille and all my synths 
including those locked probably to my supernova quite happily.
On the subject of fs though, I actually invested in this, got an old 
coppy of fs2002, but ms speech rec if you load some other things for 
sapi   or even if you don't likes to corrupt itself and not load which is fine.
However even when I got it to work I found the training extremely 
dificult its a pitty we can't find, and get brailled all the material 
ms uses to train with.

Iyp looked quite good as well as the radar thing.
Though truthfully, I really don't know if I could dig a pasenger game 
really, its not my deal.

Sure have some exploring round but a little action would be nice.
The only other game not released ever was starbase defender, as its 
dev ran out of time and seems to now have dissapeared from the net 
along with his site.
The only good thing if it can even be a good thing at all is that for 
ages before he went offline he had the game entire soundtrack up, 
thats also gone now but I have it and maybe others do.
Its really a pitty it died as aparently there was 2 weeks left ot get 
it all going.
THe other flight game that died was by nasoft, flight commander and 
was something almost like tdv.

It was in the future though.
There was a trailer but again it never eventuated, nasoft is also gone.
There was final defender by what is now draconis, its not appeared 
again but that doesn't mean it may come back since adora is now 
draconis, so technically it may still happen though doubtfull.
The only remotely  space games we have are battleship by jim kitchen, 
trek2000 by gma and final conflict startrek by usagames.

THe kitchensinc game is just battle ship.
The gma one is quite old and crappy and freeware.
And the usa one though still existant   although it has replay value 
is still well not as good as it could be with today's tech though 
better than trek2k its still crappy and its being redone in any case.
I guess you could call monkey business, shades of doom and alien 
outback and maybe a few others space games but only because they have 
either shields or lasers in them same with the troop series by 
blindsoftware but they are not realy space ship sims.
What we need is something that has exploration  battle, action and 
other randomness.

Battle we have loads of but not much more than that.
I recently listened to a radio station where rage by idsoftware was 
being demoed.

You basically did things to advance yourself and get extra things, cash, etc.
The major thing I liked about rage though was the crafting element, 
except for the game return to chaos by chaos productions I think, we 
really don't have any games with a major crafting element.


At 03:38 p.m. 20/10/2011 -0400, you wrote:

Hey Shawn, I like the way you think. SMILES.
It would be cool to have the mars game in the windows platform.
We need a space simulator simulator to say three D velocity.
Unless someone has a better plan.
So far for we blying nuts there's Three D velocity.
The first ever hand to ear flight simulator that you can do pretty 
much everything a sighted military pilot would need to do on a 
mission from eather the keyboard and or a USB GAMEPAD/FLIGHT YOKE.
It is the first hand to ear project that I know of that has force 
feedback written into it for that realistic game play effect.

Then there's the Microsoft Flight simulator project.
You do need a couple other programs to get fs to become blind friendly.
FS is ok, but tdv is better.
There is a up grade of the Microsoft flight simulator coming out 
next year that's suppose to have roughly 100 birds to fly.

But that's all that I can say at this time.
But I would love to see a space shuttle simulator that is as 
realistic as possible.

Right now the space plan is the space station.
But they do have the new up coming space ship that they'd like to 
use to go back to the moon, or to a meator and or to Mars with.
I think that the old mars game would be a great stepping stone to 
use for the ground floor for a newer up grade.

That's my two cnets on this subject.
ron and Boz on turns nine years old on the 24th, which is Monday.

-Original Message- From: shaun everiss
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

well I wouldn't mind these games being rewritten, The concept of mars
is quite cool but getting out dated, some sort of exploration game is
something we havn't had fo

Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-20 Thread Ron Kolesar

Hey Shawn, I like the way you think. SMILES.
It would be cool to have the mars game in the windows platform.
We need a space simulator simulator to say three D velocity.
Unless someone has a better plan.
So far for we blying nuts there's Three D velocity.
The first ever hand to ear flight simulator that you can do pretty much 
everything a sighted military pilot would need to do on a mission from 
eather the keyboard and or a USB GAMEPAD/FLIGHT YOKE.
It is the first hand to ear project that I know of that has force feedback 
written into it for that realistic game play effect.

Then there's the Microsoft Flight simulator project.
You do need a couple other programs to get fs to become blind friendly.
FS is ok, but tdv is better.
There is a up grade of the Microsoft flight simulator coming out next year 
that's suppose to have roughly 100 birds to fly.

But that's all that I can say at this time.
But I would love to see a space shuttle simulator that is as realistic as 
possible.

Right now the space plan is the space station.
But they do have the new up coming space ship that they'd like to use to go 
back to the moon, or to a meator and or to Mars with.
I think that the old mars game would be a great stepping stone to use for 
the ground floor for a newer up grade.

That's my two cnets on this subject.
ron and Boz on turns nine years old on the 24th, which is Monday.

-Original Message- 
From: shaun everiss

Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:36 AM
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well I wouldn't mind these games being rewritten, The concept of mars
is quite cool but getting out dated, some sort of exploration game is
something we havn't had for ages if ever.
Random events though hmmm.
If we kept the theme as the origional, more places to restock air, a
way to get back from time warps befor you run out of fuel.
A description of what rocks do what and a way to list what you have,
also to warn you if something is dangerous.
Have more stations to restock your ship.
Be able to go  further than mars or if staying with the same theme
back to earth.
In truth with the random elements switched off you only have enough
fuel to get to mars and not much more really.
At 03:58 p.m. 19/10/2011 -0400, you wrote:

Hi.

That's cool. I wonder if he would object to someone else rewriting
them and adding Sapi support etc.

On 10/19/11, michael barnes  wrote:
> Hey, everyone for the last few days I have been talking to Richard L.
> De Steno the creator of great games such as Destination Mars and Run
> For President.
> He told me that his games are freeware so if any of us would like to
> pass out his games that is fine.  Here is the email I recieve below.

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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-20 Thread shaun everiss
well I wouldn't mind these games being rewritten, The concept of mars 
is quite cool but getting out dated, some sort of exploration game is 
something we havn't had for ages if ever.

Random events though hmmm.
If we kept the theme as the origional, more places to restock air, a 
way to get back from time warps befor you run out of fuel.
A description of what rocks do what and a way to list what you have, 
also to warn you if something is dangerous.

Have more stations to restock your ship.
Be able to go  further than mars or if staying with the same theme 
back to earth.
In truth with the random elements switched off you only have enough 
fuel to get to mars and not much more really.

At 03:58 p.m. 19/10/2011 -0400, you wrote:

Hi.

That's cool. I wonder if he would object to someone else rewriting
them and adding Sapi support etc.

On 10/19/11, michael barnes  wrote:
> Hey, everyone for the last few days I have been talking to Richard L.
> De Steno the creator of great games such as Destination Mars and Run
> For President.
> He told me that his games are freeware so if any of us would like to
> pass out his games that is fine.  Here is the email I recieve below.

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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-20 Thread shaun everiss

they wouldn't be that big, a couple mb max
At 12:20 p.m. 19/10/2011 -0400, you wrote:

Everyone,

Assuming that these games aren't huge in size, I'd be happy to host
them on the main AA server.  If someone can send me the games and an
overview of their history, I'll write up a short page and put them up
in a special directory for general download.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:04 PM, dark  wrote:
> Wow, crazy, I never heard of a provider that was so stiff.
>
> I wonder if sendspace or similar would work, sinse then you'd be download
> the files from the net at least.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> DArk.
> - Original Message - From: "pitermach" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!
>
>
>> Hi dark,
>> I believe the problems are because of his email provider blocking out
>> potentially risky attachments. Wouldn't be a first, I'm 100% sure google
>> does it, and since you can't even run a program in system access's file
>> manager, it'd come as no surprise that they'd be stripping messages off of
>> potentially dangerous files like executables or compressed archives.
>> Maybe Richard could use something like dropbox, or he could temporarly
>> change the file's extension to something like to .txt or something, that'd
>> most likely get it through the filters, and accessing them afterwards
>> wouldn't be a problem since the binary content would be intact.
>> On 2011-10-19 15:34, dark wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael.
>>>
>>> That is good news regarding richard's dos games, however Michael, zip
>>> files would indeed be the best way of passing them around.
>>>
>>> To access zip files, just try 7zip from http://www.7zip.com/
>>>
>>> all you need to do is right click or similar on the file in windows
>>> explorer, select the 7zip item you want such as extract here to get
>>> everything from the zip folder in your current location, or 
extract to which

>>> will create a new folder with the contents of the zip archive in it.
>>>
>>> 7zip is a very easy to use program and should make access anything zipped
>>> far easier, pluss this then means that if Richard or anyone else wants to
>>> send aroung games this should make them fairly easy.
>>>
>>> Beware the grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> - Ori
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-20 Thread shaun everiss
well all the games still have  the need to buy option on them if  we 
could have all his games with the registered message or something 
then that would be cool to I guess.

At 11:39 a.m. 19/10/2011 -0400, you wrote:
Hey, well the reason I let everyone read this email is so that if 
anyone wanted to get any of Richard's games from one another then it 
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-20 Thread shaun everiss
Well its because of viruses and other things through email that I 
have resorted to dropbox as my file sharing site of choice.

I like the public links but also the shared folders.
Even for free use.
helps me with admin work.
I can ring the client on skype get him to run the files in his 
dropbox and I have the exact coppies on mine and I know what he is doing.

At 05:30 p.m. 19/10/2011 +0200, you wrote:

Hi dark,
I believe the problems are because of his email provider blocking 
out potentially risky attachments. Wouldn't be a first, I'm 100% 
sure google does it, and since you can't even run a program in 
system access's file manager, it'd come as no surprise that they'd 
be stripping messages off of potentially dangerous files like 
executables or compressed archives.
Maybe Richard could use something like dropbox, or he could 
temporarly change the file's extension to something like to .txt or 
something, that'd most likely get it through the filters, and 
accessing them afterwards wouldn't be a problem since the binary 
content would be intact.

On 2011-10-19 15:34, dark wrote:

Hi Michael.

That is good news regarding richard's dos games, however Michael, 
zip files would indeed be the best way of passing them around.


To access zip files, just try 7zip from http://www.7zip.com/

all you need to do is right click or similar on the file in windows 
explorer, select the 7zip item you want such as extract here to get 
everything from the zip folder in your current location, or extract 
to which will create a new folder with the contents of the zip archive in it.


7zip is a very easy to use program and should make access anything 
zipped far easier, pluss this then means that if Richard or anyone 
else wants to send aroung games this should make them fairly easy.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Ori


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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,

That only works if you have a 32-bit system and 16-bit backwards
compatibility. Windows 7 64-bit has dropped support for 16-bit
applications.

On 10/19/11, michael barnes  wrote:
> Hey, Ron.
> Actually you can run these old games in windows 7 32 bit.  The way I
> did it I put the old dos games on my d drive and then I went to command
> prompt and type in d:\ and whatever the file is call.
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

If I could get my hands on the games USA Games could also host them.
Sheesh, I've got a lot of other free and abandoned software up their
so adding these to the collection wouldn't be a problem.

On 10/19/11, pitermach  wrote:
> That's some really nice news. I'm all for that kind of thing. I've quite
> successfully got a stable website up that will not be going down or
> anything, and I'd gladly offer to host the games there.
> I may be able to receive the attachments via an an email address that
> shouldn't block it as well.

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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

Well, it depends on the game actually.  I have some Dos programs I
compiled for a 32-bit target environment and those run fine on Windows
7 64-bit. Its the older Dos programs that were compiled for a 16-bit
op that have issues. I have not located a Dos emulator that works with
a screen reader so old 16-bit Dos games require an older box if you
want to play them.

On 10/19/11, michael barnes  wrote:
> Hey, Ron.
> Sadly dos games won't run under 64 bit windows 7.  I am in the progress
> of finding a dos emulator that will work with screen readers.
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi.

That's cool. I wonder if he would object to someone else rewriting
them and adding Sapi support etc.

On 10/19/11, michael barnes  wrote:
> Hey, everyone for the last few days I have been talking to Richard L.
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread michael barnes

Hey, Ron.
Sadly dos games won't run under 64 bit windows 7.  I am in the progress 
of finding a dos emulator that will work with screen readers.


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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread Ron Kolesar

It was.
But I'm running 64 bit.
Thanks though.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:37 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
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Hey, Ron.
Actually you can run these old games in windows 7 32 bit.  The way I
did it I put the old dos games on my d drive and then I went to command
prompt and type in d:\ and whatever the file is call.
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread Dennis Towne
Everyone,

Assuming that these games aren't huge in size, I'd be happy to host
them on the main AA server.  If someone can send me the games and an
overview of their history, I'll write up a short page and put them up
in a special directory for general download.

Dennis Towne

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:04 PM, dark  wrote:
> Wow, crazy, I never heard of a provider that was so stiff.
>
> I wonder if sendspace or similar would work, sinse then you'd be download
> the files from the net at least.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> DArk.
> - Original Message - From: "pitermach" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!
>
>
>> Hi dark,
>> I believe the problems are because of his email provider blocking out
>> potentially risky attachments. Wouldn't be a first, I'm 100% sure google
>> does it, and since you can't even run a program in system access's file
>> manager, it'd come as no surprise that they'd be stripping messages off of
>> potentially dangerous files like executables or compressed archives.
>> Maybe Richard could use something like dropbox, or he could temporarly
>> change the file's extension to something like to .txt or something, that'd
>> most likely get it through the filters, and accessing them afterwards
>> wouldn't be a problem since the binary content would be intact.
>> On 2011-10-19 15:34, dark wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael.
>>>
>>> That is good news regarding richard's dos games, however Michael, zip
>>> files would indeed be the best way of passing them around.
>>>
>>> To access zip files, just try 7zip from http://www.7zip.com/
>>>
>>> all you need to do is right click or similar on the file in windows
>>> explorer, select the 7zip item you want such as extract here to get
>>> everything from the zip folder in your current location, or extract to which
>>> will create a new folder with the contents of the zip archive in it.
>>>
>>> 7zip is a very easy to use program and should make access anything zipped
>>> far easier, pluss this then means that if Richard or anyone else wants to
>>> send aroung games this should make them fairly easy.
>>>
>>> Beware the grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> - Ori
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread dark

Wow, crazy, I never heard of a provider that was so stiff.

I wonder if sendspace or similar would work, sinse then you'd be download 
the files from the net at least.


Beware the grue!

DArk.
- Original Message - 
From: "pitermach" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!



Hi dark,
I believe the problems are because of his email provider blocking out 
potentially risky attachments. Wouldn't be a first, I'm 100% sure google 
does it, and since you can't even run a program in system access's file 
manager, it'd come as no surprise that they'd be stripping messages off of 
potentially dangerous files like executables or compressed archives.
Maybe Richard could use something like dropbox, or he could temporarly 
change the file's extension to something like to .txt or something, that'd 
most likely get it through the filters, and accessing them afterwards 
wouldn't be a problem since the binary content would be intact.

On 2011-10-19 15:34, dark wrote:

Hi Michael.

That is good news regarding richard's dos games, however Michael, zip 
files would indeed be the best way of passing them around.


To access zip files, just try 7zip from http://www.7zip.com/

all you need to do is right click or similar on the file in windows 
explorer, select the 7zip item you want such as extract here to get 
everything from the zip folder in your current location, or extract to 
which will create a new folder with the contents of the zip archive in 
it.


7zip is a very easy to use program and should make access anything zipped 
far easier, pluss this then means that if Richard or anyone else wants to 
send aroung games this should make them fairly easy.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread michael barnes
Hey, well the reason I let everyone read this email is so that if 
anyone wanted to get any of Richard's games from one another then it 
would be fine to do.


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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread pitermach
That's some really nice news. I'm all for that kind of thing. I've quite 
successfully got a stable website up that will not be going down or 
anything, and I'd gladly offer to host the games there.
I may be able to receive the attachments via an an email address that 
shouldn't block it as well.

On 2011-10-19 14:43, michael barnes wrote:
Hey, everyone for the last few days I have been talking to Richard L. 
De Steno the creator of great games such as Destination Mars and Run 
For President.
He told me that his games are freeware so if any of us would like to 
pass out his games that is fine.  Here is the email I recieve below.

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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread pitermach

Hi dark,
I believe the problems are because of his email provider blocking out 
potentially risky attachments. Wouldn't be a first, I'm 100% sure google 
does it, and since you can't even run a program in system access's file 
manager, it'd come as no surprise that they'd be stripping messages off 
of potentially dangerous files like executables or compressed archives.
Maybe Richard could use something like dropbox, or he could temporarly 
change the file's extension to something like to .txt or something, 
that'd most likely get it through the filters, and accessing them 
afterwards wouldn't be a problem since the binary content would be intact.

On 2011-10-19 15:34, dark wrote:

Hi Michael.

That is good news regarding richard's dos games, however Michael, zip 
files would indeed be the best way of passing them around.


To access zip files, just try 7zip from http://www.7zip.com/

all you need to do is right click or similar on the file in windows 
explorer, select the 7zip item you want such as extract here to get 
everything from the zip folder in your current location, or extract to 
which will create a new folder with the contents of the zip archive in 
it.


7zip is a very easy to use program and should make access anything 
zipped far easier, pluss this then means that if Richard or anyone 
else wants to send aroung games this should make them fairly easy.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread michael barnes

Hey, Ron.
Actually you can run these old games in windows 7 32 bit.  The way I 
did it I put the old dos games on my d drive and then I went to command 
prompt and type in d:\ and whatever the file is call.

Hope that was helpful to you.

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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread dark

Hi Michael.

That is good news regarding richard's dos games, however Michael, zip files 
would indeed be the best way of passing them around.


To access zip files, just try 7zip from http://www.7zip.com/

all you need to do is right click or similar on the file in windows 
explorer, select the 7zip item you want such as extract here to get 
everything from the zip folder in your current location, or extract to which 
will create a new folder with the contents of the zip archive in it.


7zip is a very easy to use program and should make access anything zipped 
far easier, pluss this then means that if Richard or anyone else wants to 
send aroung games this should make them fairly easy.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "michael barnes" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:43 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!


Hey, everyone for the last few days I have been talking to Richard L. De 
Steno the creator of great games such as Destination Mars and Run For 
President.
He told me that his games are freeware so if any of us would like to pass 
out his games that is fine.  Here is the email I recieve below.

Read Message
From:
Rich De Steno
To:
michael barnes
Subject:
Re: Quick info please.
I have made the DOS games freeware. There is no real market for DOS games 
anymore. Those games were written in a DOS programming language. In order 
to enable them to run in Windows, I would have to completely rewrite them, 
and that is a huge undertaking. Since you were not able to access my two 
previous attachments, I doubt that you would be able to access a zip file, 
but maybe I'll try attachments again when I get a chance.


Rich De Steno


On 10/18/2011 11:10 PM, michael barnes wrote:

Hey, Richard.
That's great that you will try to make windows games.
I don't mean to be a pest to you but I would like to know Why have you
> not import your dos games to windows?
I tell you if you would import them to the iphone you would have a big
> following. I know I would pay for those games on the iphone. > Will
you let your games be freeware so that the people who have those > games 
can pass them out to others? I am on the gamers list for the > blind and 
alot of people on that email list have never play those game

> and some of us have.
If you let me know if your dos games can be freeware so that different
> blind people can play those great games. By the way what is the last 
> version of both destination mars and run for president?
Thanks for your time and understanding of how I would like to get a > 
hold of these games. Can you put them in a zip file and email them to > 
me?



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Re: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

2011-10-19 Thread Ron Kolesar

I loved playing the old destination mars game.
But you can't access DOS via windows seven.
It would be cool to convert the old DOS favorites to the windows platform.
My brother and a friend of ours also miss the old shutting galery game as 
well.

Thanks for this letter.


-Original Message- 
From: michael barnes

Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:43 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Good news for all gamers!

Hey, everyone for the last few days I have been talking to Richard L.
De Steno the creator of great games such as Destination Mars and Run
For President.
He told me that his games are freeware so if any of us would like to
pass out his games that is fine.  Here is the email I recieve below.
Read Message
From:
Rich De Steno
To:
michael barnes
Subject:
Re: Quick info please.
I have made the DOS games freeware. There is no real market for DOS
games anymore. Those games were written in a DOS programming language.
In order to enable them to run in Windows, I would have to completely
rewrite them, and that is a huge undertaking. Since you were not able
to access my two previous attachments, I doubt that you would be able
to access a zip file, but maybe I'll try attachments again when I get a 
chance.


Rich De Steno


On 10/18/2011 11:10 PM, michael barnes wrote:

Hey, Richard.
That's great that you will try to make windows games.
I don't mean to be a pest to you but I would like to know Why have you
> not import your dos games to windows?
I tell you if you would import them to the iphone you would have a big
> following. I know I would pay for those games on the iphone. > Will
you let your games be freeware so that the people who have those > games 
can pass them out to others? I am on the gamers list for the > blind and 
alot of people on that email list have never play those game

> and some of us have.
If you let me know if your dos games can be freeware so that different
> blind people can play those great games. By the way what is the last 
> version of both destination mars and run for president?
Thanks for your time and understanding of how I would like to get a > hold 
of these games. Can you put them in a zip file and email them to > me?



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