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Hi tom. I'm just catching up on my E-mails after a telephone down time and a miner but nasty illness (one is fixed, the other not quite), so congrats on this Tom. I'd certainly be interested in assisting with the new site, perhaps contributing some content if I could, but I'll wait to let things settle down first. so, a big thanks to Raul for handling this beast for the last few years, and the same to yourself for taking it on full time. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I've actually always thought the same when the question of various sites about games turn up. multiple information soucres does help, indeed especially in different methods (I myself find the pcs games list a great overview). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi dark, definately feel for you there. As I type this I am staring at the wreckage of 2 phone units, one of which will work again maybe the other is dead. This has made communications a bit harder, also one of the remote places I do family work for has a dead printer wo as you can imagine getting that replaced will be another nightmare. So I know the heartake. At 11:38 PM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi tom. I'm just catching up on my E-mails after a telephone down time and a miner but nasty illness (one is fixed, the other not quite), so congrats on this Tom. I'd certainly be interested in assisting with the new site, perhaps contributing some content if I could, but I'll wait to let things settle down first. so, a big thanks to Raul for handling this beast for the last few years, and the same to yourself for taking it on full time. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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yeah, one thing I'd like would to be some sort of rss feads if we ever got audyssey to a blog platform as that sertainly would move the magazine to the modern thing. on that note if we ever did reviews I'd be happy to test and review products from devs and stuff for free for mags and other casting its always ben my passion and one I try to keep going. Over the winter months its likely with all my issues that if I end up unable to do anything but still text on here then playing games well thats what I will do. At 01:07 AM 3/9/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, As Audiogames.net already has a forum I see no need to add one to Audyssey.org. That really would be reinventing the wheel, and one thing that has always set us apart is the fact we are a mailing list where Audiogames.net chose to use a forum. I would rather keep the mailing list available than switch to a forum for the primary reason not everyone likes forums. Some people prefer mailing lists over forums, and some people prefer forums over mailing lists. Some people such as myself is happy with either one. In either case people who are into lists will be drawn to Audyssey and those that are into a forum will go to Audiogames.net. As for a Dropbox account I see that as a bad idea. Dropbox will cut people off when the download limit is reached so even if someone put up a demo, podcast, or whatever after x number of users downloaded it they would get the typical sorry, download limit was reached message which makes it unsuitable for a mass sharing service. As far as Teamtalk etc I haven't looked into it, and one deciding factor will be how well supported it is on non-Windows systems. A number of our community now have switched to Mac OS, and many have iOS devices like iPhones and IPads. A few, such as myself use Linux, so obviously whatever voice chat software we use has to be available to everyone or not at all. As admin of Audyssey one of my goals will be to insure that everyone regardless of OS or device can be a part of the bigger community. Cheers! On 3/7/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm maybe you are right I don't however have time to tweat all day long or facebook all day long. The email format does work fine but maybe a dropbox or something with files who knows, a forum I guess as well as the list. a teamtalk server is also good stock if possible, teamtalk is free. twitter, well I'd have to think about it I do review tweats every morning but I don't usually reply to any. I still find email the easiest to reply to. Some sort of voice messenging thing maybe with speaker box or simular but I am not sure about free online voice messenging that would be the way to go maybe. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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true, I have a pc and I realise that that platform even in the sighted market is waning in what is avalible for it. I do plan to get an iphone because a lot of the gaming industry seems to be moving towards that. At 01:17 AM 3/9/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, then, might I advise that you choose your words more carefully in the future. There is a big difference in no games being released that you are personally interested in, and in no games being released at all. From the sounds of your earlier post you made it sound as though there were no games at all released in 2012 which wasn't true. For example, I do not as yet own an iPhone or iPad so obviously can not take advantage of the various games released for iOS. Even though I personally have no interest in those games right now I am perfectly willing to count them as game releases I could potentially play if I had the right hardware and software. In other words I don't just write them off, and say there was nothing released this year since that isn't exactly true. The reality is there wasn't anything released that I was interested in playing which is a horse of a different color. :D On 3/7/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: No I havn't forgot, this is over all, nothing much since shades of doom has got me interested or is it the fact I have got so used to stuff in general that I don't notice. maybe its a bit of both. I don't have the time I used to to actually take as much notice as I usually did in the past and don't get the same excitement I used to get so maybe its just me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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hmmm yeah I never thought about that. I'd also like other formats text html and a few other things, and yes there are sertainly things we can do. A lot of magazines thesedays have gone online and discontinued paper versions this is no different. there are competitions promos and other adds for things to, things we could use depending on what it was or themed stuff. Though I don't know if we want the modern type, sertainly advance it as you wish but I think it should keep the older styles it started with that was what attracted me to the mag. Sertainly we have come a long way from what it started with. It started with several zips on a now dead server in 1996 called aud 1- aud 20.zip. I did not know what they were and downloaded them and read them. At 01:25 AM 3/9/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, personally I'd like to see the magazine become a real online webzine written in html with proper formatting, hyperlinks to different sections, and so forth. There is quite a lot a person could use with markup languages to give the magazine a professional look, and make it easier to search for content that is of interest to the reader rather than loading it in Notepad or Gedit and searching for x number of plus signs. For example, if I wanted to jump directly to the news section I could go to the Table of Contents, find the link for News, click on that and the anchor tags imbedded in the document will take me directly to the beginning of the news section. Not sure how Ron feels about all this, but I for one think it would be a nice idea. At least for the website if not for redistribution to the list itself. Cheers! On 3/7/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: true tom ofcause with everything thats out there there is really no need to write something for the mag as it is. I think I may be one of the last that uses text and a keyboard as it was meant to be used. I hang on to the old ways. But most others yunger generations in general don't, text is crap. its sound and graphics, huge bangs and such. I am not saying blow the budjet but we need to attract people to do something. It doesn't have to be really clear just not to noisy, etc not all gamers will have really good gear. I have standard gear, well for the home user. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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true and most games are online anyway. I think the blind gaming industry is going a bit like that smaller stuff but no major things. and that may be better especially with what we have with engines and other things. At 07:33 AM 3/9/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, yes and no. The PC is still a major gaming platform for the mainstream public. The difference now days is the Windows market is dominated by independent developers while the big companies such as EA Games are almost exclusively focused on XBox, Wii, and Play Station. So while big name commercial developers for the PC market are declining the number of independent developers is increasing. On 3/8/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: true, I have a pc and I realise that that platform even in the sighted market is waning in what is avalible for it. I do plan to get an iphone because a lot of the gaming industry seems to be moving towards that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, I do not know of another game out there like my Dungeon Master game that I put out last year. Same with my strip war game that I put out last year. And even though it is a simple little game, I did release my Press Your Luck game this year. BFN - Original Message - well audiogames.net has the established database, link to it if you want but you are reinventing the wheel. On the other hand we need to have some sort of mirror for audiogames.net. audiogames.net is the main database resource and this means if it goes down for any reason thats most of us gone. However the forums are really the only places anyting goes on these days, the mainstream blind devs seeem publically stuck. no major releases from well I don't know but to be honest no revolutionary games have come out this year or last year really. sure we have had bits but still. Jim I remember when I used to peek and poke. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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One can only work with what one gets. On 07-Mar-2013 2:00 AM, shaun everiss wrote: I don't know tom it was unfair to the mag in its origiona format and I wouldn't dis it. however I feel that over the last few issues as stuff has shifted that it has degraded over the years. most of the news and letters I have gotten weeks in advance. Most have the net well most of the western section of the world has it any maybe others my point is, in the old days audyssey was a mail magazine then a magazine that was round on the net. Its primary purpose was for the interactive fiction and other dos games. along comes the net and its job is prity much done as it is. A revision of the magazine needs to be urgently performed. Its funny, I used to read the mag and waste a good hour on it. over the last few years its been this small pile of crap, not that its crap but most of it I have seen before, vary little articles, and audiogames.net had a lot more info. Though every time I read it I remembered the older issues. Every time I thought, hmmm this mag really needs something done its total crap, I'll do something about it. Then I'd promptly forget. I had loads of ideas for the mag then I'dconvieniently forget those. The down hill of the trend of the mag has been on my mind ever since issue 31 onwards. If audyssey.org will be articles and stuff thats fine but bar the news from the devs that did not make to email well all the news maybe the dnd articles and the adventure article gru and imortal gamer and other columns well if these are shifted thats the end of the mag. though I can't wait for a revision. At 05:38 PM 3/7/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, While I agree that it is a pity that Audyssey hasn't kept up with the quarterly release schedule I also know that life does get in the way. Once I reboot the Audyssey site we can see if we can encourage Ron to step up a magazine release, appoint a new editor or something, but calling it rubbish is a pretty harsh and unfair assessment of the magazine. On 3/6/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I aggree kev. however as far as I can remember, articles dropped off so now audiogames.net is where you go and audyssey is crappy rubbish! I am not saying don't take it out the bin and dust it off, but the fact is that there is almost nothing to read in it these days and its so nonregular I don't notice it as much as I used to. I do support the revival, previding the mag can be edited by a few or something at least get a regular schedual as it used to have. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6152 - Release Date: 03/06/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I volunteer, and I might misspell the last name, Kelly Sapurgia. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hi Shaun, Regarding podcasts etc we can discuss that once the new website is up and running. However, if we are going to do it we need a decent show host to do the podcast. Not everyone is necessarily qualified for that position and as with any kind of public media it takes the right kind of person to do it properly not to mention the right kind of equipment etc. For example, I have listened to a number of amateur podcasts where the person throws in a number of oh and um and uh every few minutes which is absolutely irritating. All of that can be edited out of course, but few amateur podcasters take the time to get a nice professional cast by editing out all the extra garbage. So if we went with a podcast I would hope we could find plenty of people willing to do editing and post production to get a high quality and professional cast rather than something produced by someone's $10.00 PC microphone and a sound recording program. Cheers! On 3/6/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: on the note of change though this may disadvantage a relitive few, I want to put foreward the thought about putting audyssey mag to be in a podcast form of a sort. There are several reasons. firstly we have 1 central editor, ron doing everything. That was fine with a central editer with disks and even in the early days of the net but as I found myself offline life and other junk in general gets me to not be able to complete all things I wanted. unless I focus on it soly for example yesterday I took down the entire network for a virus scan and image backup. I killed several viruses in the backup drives and imaged 2 units but it took roughly 24 hours to do it and I didn't do anything in fact most of it was done while I was sleeping. Another point. why bother about audyssey.org at all, we have the audiogames forum for just about everything. I respected the mag, it was good. when mike fair did it, but most of the goodness was before the net. in the year 1995 that changed slowly but surely. Sadly not to many articles come out . The magazine is prity much crap and junk and stupid now. I stress that its crappyness is not its fault, its just its not been upgraded in ages probably since it came online. A lot of news is in the forum more update sometimes than the news the devs send and they hardly send anything out these days its all slowed down. Even the opensource hackers have slowed. its not as good as it was pickings are slim, etc. We probably should upgrade it to some sort of cast on different reviews including game demos and playthroughs etc, I can't do everything but thanks to a little dosh required to get my system to a level where I can broadcast off it to tbrn on a cohosting role I have a adaquit microphone setup, ofcause I can't record game reviews and recordings at the same time without it sounding from an outside pospective but still,it could be something to do. I realise that not everyone will a appreciate this especially those on dialup but I feel that a sofficient number of people are on broadband sertainly enough to justify the upgrade. On the other hand stopping audyssey and switching it back to google groups and not having the mag is fine. If text is still what people want the only other way to do it is reduce the format, there used to be a letters sections a reviews section, a dnd section sometimes an imortal gamer section and a dev news section. The game adventure stuff with the imortal gamer and or game rescue unit really grabs me so if thats left in fine. the letters are most emails from the list so should go. the dev news should go unless devs want to post their junk at the mag. the dnd section should stay. reviews and casts are on the forums but I guess some for stuff not reviewed before can go there. the articles can stay to. Also I think that 1. either we have a shorter publication time to publish or just pile everything in every 6 months or something. I can't even remember the last issue I think I glanced over the last few without much interest. the first 20-30 were the best but with the net thats prity much moved focus of tech and junk away from the old text mag. The other thing is, how much is actually out there. most of it we know bar vary few things that are not coman. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers
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that sounds good. has anyone thought of making the adam the imortal gamer and game rescue unit into actual games maybe 3d games? An idea I had was sort of like the mirror universe, adam is the same his computer however gets a virus and becomes evil,. On that note I'd really like some of the if games the older ones and some of the newer ones become audioised somehow. cosmoserve was a good game in its day. it still is but agt is not made anymore and it was designed for old pcs its good but its really crap now, it was meant to run on dos not windows and with 64 bit windows all the agt stuff won't ru n anyway. I know you have agility but it still doesn't go the same as it used to. The other thing that I have been thinking of is cross cosmoserve with the bastard operater from hell. the main char is the bofh and as expected he will play the game he would do things the bofh would do. I am not sure how it would go but. At 01:27 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, as Ron is the editor of the magazine he is ultimately the person for changes in the magazine itself. However, I think this is where the website can help. I can maintain a news page where news of new audio games, news letters from developers, etc can be instantly posted instead of having to wait until the next magazine release weather it be three months, six months, or a year. I expect the launch of the new Audyssey site will give us more up to date information in the world of accessible games which is something we didn't have before. As far as that goes we can create a section for Adam the Immortal Gamer and all the rest of it which would make everything more online and more available to the public sooner. On 3/7/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know tom it was unfair to the mag in its origiona format and I wouldn't dis it. however I feel that over the last few issues as stuff has shifted that it has degraded over the years. most of the news and letters I have gotten weeks in advance. Most have the net well most of the western section of the world has it any maybe others my point is, in the old days audyssey was a mail magazine then a magazine that was round on the net. Its primary purpose was for the interactive fiction and other dos games. along comes the net and its job is prity much done as it is. A revision of the magazine needs to be urgently performed. Its funny, I used to read the mag and waste a good hour on it. over the last few years its been this small pile of crap, not that its crap but most of it I have seen before, vary little articles, and audiogames.net had a lot more info. Though every time I read it I remembered the older issues. Every time I thought, hmmm this mag really needs something done its total crap, I'll do something about it. Then I'd promptly forget. I had loads of ideas for the mag then I'dconvieniently forget those. The down hill of the trend of the mag has been on my mind ever since issue 31 onwards. If audyssey.org will be articles and stuff thats fine but bar the news from the devs that did not make to email well all the news maybe the dnd articles and the adventure article gru and imortal gamer and other columns well if these are shifted thats the end of the mag. though I can't wait for a revision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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true tom ofcause with everything thats out there there is really no need to write something for the mag as it is. I think I may be one of the last that uses text and a keyboard as it was meant to be used. I hang on to the old ways. But most others yunger generations in general don't, text is crap. its sound and graphics, huge bangs and such. I am not saying blow the budjet but we need to attract people to do something. It doesn't have to be really clear just not to noisy, etc not all gamers will have really good gear. I have standard gear, well for the home user. At 01:31 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Ron, I hear you there. Input garbage output garbage. Input a gem output a gem. As the magazine has always been about submissions it is as good as those submissions. If Shaun and some others feel the Audyssey Magazine has been going down hill in quality then perhaps we need to constructively encourage the community to write better articles. On 3/7/13, Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca wrote: One can only work with what one gets. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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No I havn't forgot, this is over all, nothing much since shades of doom has got me interested or is it the fact I have got so used to stuff in general that I don't notice. maybe its a bit of both. I don't have the time I used to to actually take as much notice as I usually did in the past and don't get the same excitement I used to get so maybe its just me. At 01:36 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Jim, Yeah, really. Not only that Shaun seems to have forgotten about all the updates and releases for Swamp, Road to Rage, BK2, and so forth. Not to mention there was a slue of accessible games released for iOS. So 2012 was actually a pretty productive year all things considered. On 3/7/13, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Shaun, I do not know of another game out there like my Dungeon Master game that I put out last year. Same with my strip war game that I put out last year. And even though it is a simple little game, I did release my Press Your Luck game this year. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hmmm maybe you are right I don't however have time to tweat all day long or facebook all day long. The email format does work fine but maybe a dropbox or something with files who knows, a forum I guess as well as the list. a teamtalk server is also good stock if possible, teamtalk is free. twitter, well I'd have to think about it I do review tweats every morning but I don't usually reply to any. I still find email the easiest to reply to. Some sort of voice messenging thing maybe with speaker box or simular but I am not sure about free online voice messenging that would be the way to go maybe. At 01:51 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, HmmmNot sure about the app bit, but a blog we definitely could do. Wordpress is simple to setup and manage since it is coded in php. However, before I say yes or no on features like that I'll wait until the new website is up and running before running a poll to see what the majority of list members want or don't want. For example, one thing I have thought about is some sort of social media component such as a Twitter feed that would allow Audyssey members to chat or discuss games via an existing social networking service they are already on. As has been said technology is changing and perhaps we need to roll with the change and update too. On 3/7/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I wander if there would be any use that as well as having audyssey in all the formats its in including podcast which would be good I'd like it in a more modern blog form or at least parts of it. This is probably further down the road, but an idea would be to have an apple/android and win8 app. really not sure what those would do though. I read a lot of magazines and other publications have contests and competitions and to modernise we should start including a heck more of those. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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A huge congratulations Tom. I know you'll make a grat administrator for all blind gamers to come. I have to let a friend of mine who's just losing her vision know about this list. But she is a apple user though. Again, a huge congratulations and can't wait to see the new changeses and additional info that you plan to add to the game access world. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hello list, On behalf of the Audyssey moderators and owners I wanted to let everyone know of some important changes which will be occurring this week. In the next few days the lists former admin and owner Raul Gallegos will be turning the Audyssey list over to me and I will be assuming financial and administrative control of the lists management. Since I intend to switch hosts for the list and website you may experience some downtime towards the end of the week as the account is moved and setup on a new server. We hope the downtime will only last between 24 and 48 hours at most. However, besides the move and transfer of control of the list there will be some new updates coming in the next few days as well. When Raul and I initially moved the list from Yahoo Groups we had hopes of developing a website complete with magazines, directories of websites, game reviews, and various other things similar to Audiogames.net. Obviously, do to life commitments that never happened. Now, that I will be assuming control of the website one of the things I want to do under my management is start laying the groundwork for the Audyssey website and begin making it a serious resource for gamers besides this list. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Congratulations, Tom! I know that this will be a huge undertaking, and I wish you all the best in this. It should be exciting and good for the visually impaired and blind gaming community. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know either on or off list. When the list is moved, will we have to unsubscribe from this list and subscribe to a new one?, or will it be automatically transferred from that end. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hello list, On behalf of the Audyssey moderators and owners I wanted to let everyone know of some important changes which will be occurring this week. In the next few days the lists former admin and owner Raul Gallegos will be turning the Audyssey list over to me and I will be assuming financial and administrative control of the lists management. Since I intend to switch hosts for the list and website you may experience some downtime towards the end of the week as the account is moved and setup on a new server. We hope the downtime will only last between 24 and 48 hours at most. However, besides the move and transfer of control of the list there will be some new updates coming in the next few days as well. When Raul and I initially moved the list from Yahoo Groups we had hopes of developing a website complete with magazines, directories of websites, game reviews, and various other things similar to Audiogames.net. Obviously, do to life commitments that never happened. Now, that I will be assuming control of the website one of the things I want to do under my management is start laying the groundwork for the Audyssey website and begin making it a serious resource for gamers besides this list. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I think of this move in this way: I can look for groceries at the grocery store. I could look for shoes at the shoe store, or I could find both at the nearest Wal-Mart. A place where I could find issues of Audyssey Magazine, info and links to games of the type I am interested in, and an Email list dealing with those games, which is what this will be, is a good thing. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hi Chris, Rather than think of Audyssey as being different from Audiogames.net I see it as another resource where people can obtain some of the same information. Eventually, Audyssey may grow, have different content, etc but primarily I see it as being a website focused on the topic of audio games and plenty of links to other resources where further information can be found. For those who feel I am just reinventing the wheel do remember that many blind and sighted may come to Audyssey not knowing about Audiogames.net, and therefore for them some of the content may be new to them. I see having more than one resource where to get information is a good thing. :D Cheers! On 3/6/13, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: , could you elaborate on what you see as the function of the wider web-based materials as distinct from that already provided by audiogames.net? I'm all for innovation, but A G N has a large reader base and a well-organized forum and other items for expanded content. What would you be doing that's different? Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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on the note of change though this may disadvantage a relitive few, I want to put foreward the thought about putting audyssey mag to be in a podcast form of a sort. There are several reasons. firstly we have 1 central editor, ron doing everything. That was fine with a central editer with disks and even in the early days of the net but as I found myself offline life and other junk in general gets me to not be able to complete all things I wanted. unless I focus on it soly for example yesterday I took down the entire network for a virus scan and image backup. I killed several viruses in the backup drives and imaged 2 units but it took roughly 24 hours to do it and I didn't do anything in fact most of it was done while I was sleeping. Another point. why bother about audyssey.org at all, we have the audiogames forum for just about everything. I respected the mag, it was good. when mike fair did it, but most of the goodness was before the net. in the year 1995 that changed slowly but surely. Sadly not to many articles come out . The magazine is prity much crap and junk and stupid now. I stress that its crappyness is not its fault, its just its not been upgraded in ages probably since it came online. A lot of news is in the forum more update sometimes than the news the devs send and they hardly send anything out these days its all slowed down. Even the opensource hackers have slowed. its not as good as it was pickings are slim, etc. We probably should upgrade it to some sort of cast on different reviews including game demos and playthroughs etc, I can't do everything but thanks to a little dosh required to get my system to a level where I can broadcast off it to tbrn on a cohosting role I have a adaquit microphone setup, ofcause I can't record game reviews and recordings at the same time without it sounding from an outside pospective but still,it could be something to do. I realise that not everyone will a appreciate this especially those on dialup but I feel that a sofficient number of people are on broadband sertainly enough to justify the upgrade. On the other hand stopping audyssey and switching it back to google groups and not having the mag is fine. If text is still what people want the only other way to do it is reduce the format, there used to be a letters sections a reviews section, a dnd section sometimes an imortal gamer section and a dev news section. The game adventure stuff with the imortal gamer and or game rescue unit really grabs me so if thats left in fine. the letters are most emails from the list so should go. the dev news should go unless devs want to post their junk at the mag. the dnd section should stay. reviews and casts are on the forums but I guess some for stuff not reviewed before can go there. the articles can stay to. Also I think that 1. either we have a shorter publication time to publish or just pile everything in every 6 months or something. I can't even remember the last issue I think I glanced over the last few without much interest. the first 20-30 were the best but with the net thats prity much moved focus of tech and junk away from the old text mag. The other thing is, how much is actually out there. most of it we know bar vary few things that are not coman. At 07:12 AM 3/7/2013, you wrote: Hello list, On behalf of the Audyssey moderators and owners I wanted to let everyone know of some important changes which will be occurring this week. In the next few days the lists former admin and owner Raul Gallegos will be turning the Audyssey list over to me and I will be assuming financial and administrative control of the lists management. Since I intend to switch hosts for the list and website you may experience some downtime towards the end of the week as the account is moved and setup on a new server. We hope the downtime will only last between 24 and 48 hours at most. However, besides the move and transfer of control of the list there will be some new updates coming in the next few days as well. When Raul and I initially moved the list from Yahoo Groups we had hopes of developing a website complete with magazines, directories of websites, game reviews, and various other things similar to Audiogames.net. Obviously, do to life commitments that never happened. Now, that I will be assuming control of the website one of the things I want to do under my management is start laying the groundwork for the Audyssey website and begin making it a serious resource for gamers besides this list. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
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well audiogames.net has the established database, link to it if you want but you are reinventing the wheel. On the other hand we need to have some sort of mirror for audiogames.net. audiogames.net is the main database resource and this means if it goes down for any reason thats most of us gone. However the forums are really the only places anyting goes on these days, the mainstream blind devs seeem publically stuck. no major releases from well I don't know but to be honest no revolutionary games have come out this year or last year really. sure we have had bits but still. At 08:57 AM 3/7/2013, you wrote: Hi Chris, Rather than think of Audyssey as being different from Audiogames.net I see it as another resource where people can obtain some of the same information. Eventually, Audyssey may grow, have different content, etc but primarily I see it as being a website focused on the topic of audio games and plenty of links to other resources where further information can be found. For those who feel I am just reinventing the wheel do remember that many blind and sighted may come to Audyssey not knowing about Audiogames.net, and therefore for them some of the content may be new to them. I see having more than one resource where to get information is a good thing. :D Cheers! On 3/6/13, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: , could you elaborate on what you see as the function of the wider web-based materials as distinct from that already provided by audiogames.net? I'm all for innovation, but A G N has a large reader base and a well-organized forum and other items for expanded content. What would you be doing that's different? Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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true we need more good things. there are to few places ot there however its going to be a huge undertaking to mirror something like audiogames.net. if we could get something like that as audyssey maybe with out the forums still. At 09:44 AM 3/7/2013, you wrote: I think of this move in this way: I can look for groceries at the grocery store. I could look for shoes at the shoe store, or I could find both at the nearest Wal-Mart. A place where I could find issues of Audyssey Magazine, info and links to games of the type I am interested in, and an Email list dealing with those games, which is what this will be, is a good thing. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hi Chris, Rather than think of Audyssey as being different from Audiogames.net I see it as another resource where people can obtain some of the same information. Eventually, Audyssey may grow, have different content, etc but primarily I see it as being a website focused on the topic of audio games and plenty of links to other resources where further information can be found. For those who feel I am just reinventing the wheel do remember that many blind and sighted may come to Audyssey not knowing about Audiogames.net, and therefore for them some of the content may be new to them. I see having more than one resource where to get information is a good thing. :D Cheers! On 3/6/13, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: , could you elaborate on what you see as the function of the wider web-based materials as distinct from that already provided by audiogames.net? I'm all for innovation, but A G N has a large reader base and a well-organized forum and other items for expanded content. What would you be doing that's different? Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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hi all, just to say i second tom's ideas/intentions. audyssey in it's various forms has been in existence for close on 15 years! it should have it's own site and be a focal point of the blind gaming world. in fact, it's a shame it's never had such a set up before as it was around long before audiogames.net was even thought of! :) tom if help is needed in anyway just shout! :) kevin twitter: @lordl1974 on skype: lordl1974 -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 06 March 2013 18:13 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hello list, On behalf of the Audyssey moderators and owners I wanted to let everyone know of some important changes which will be occurring this week. In the next few days the lists former admin and owner Raul Gallegos will be turning the Audyssey list over to me and I will be assuming financial and administrative control of the lists management. Since I intend to switch hosts for the list and website you may experience some downtime towards the end of the week as the account is moved and setup on a new server. We hope the downtime will only last between 24 and 48 hours at most. However, besides the move and transfer of control of the list there will be some new updates coming in the next few days as well. When Raul and I initially moved the list from Yahoo Groups we had hopes of developing a website complete with magazines, directories of websites, game reviews, and various other things similar to Audiogames.net. Obviously, do to life commitments that never happened. Now, that I will be assuming control of the website one of the things I want to do under my management is start laying the groundwork for the Audyssey website and begin making it a serious resource for gamers besides this list. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I aggree kev. however as far as I can remember, articles dropped off so now audiogames.net is where you go and audyssey is crappy rubbish! I am not saying don't take it out the bin and dust it off, but the fact is that there is almost nothing to read in it these days and its so nonregular I don't notice it as much as I used to. I do support the revival, previding the mag can be edited by a few or something at least get a regular schedual as it used to have. At 12:42 PM 3/7/2013, you wrote: hi all, just to say i second tom's ideas/intentions. audyssey in it's various forms has been in existence for close on 15 years! it should have it's own site and be a focal point of the blind gaming world. in fact, it's a shame it's never had such a set up before as it was around long before audiogames.net was even thought of! :) tom if help is needed in anyway just shout! :) kevin twitter: @lordl1974 on skype: lordl1974 -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 06 March 2013 18:13 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hello list, On behalf of the Audyssey moderators and owners I wanted to let everyone know of some important changes which will be occurring this week. In the next few days the lists former admin and owner Raul Gallegos will be turning the Audyssey list over to me and I will be assuming financial and administrative control of the lists management. Since I intend to switch hosts for the list and website you may experience some downtime towards the end of the week as the account is moved and setup on a new server. We hope the downtime will only last between 24 and 48 hours at most. However, besides the move and transfer of control of the list there will be some new updates coming in the next few days as well. When Raul and I initially moved the list from Yahoo Groups we had hopes of developing a website complete with magazines, directories of websites, game reviews, and various other things similar to Audiogames.net. Obviously, do to life commitments that never happened. Now, that I will be assuming control of the website one of the things I want to do under my management is start laying the groundwork for the Audyssey website and begin making it a serious resource for gamers besides this list. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Co-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi I'll have to agree. Yes I'll admit to dropping the ball on things but like Tom says it's life and computer crashes don't help. and all things being equal whenever did Shaun ever submit something? I had both my primary and external die in about a month of each other. I do want to switch to more of a podcast format as I agree it's time to move. a friend and I are working on it. I plan to stay at the helm it just takes some thinking in an alternative version. Ron On 06-Mar-2013 11:38 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, While I agree that it is a pity that Audyssey hasn't kept up with the quarterly release schedule I also know that life does get in the way. Once I reboot the Audyssey site we can see if we can encourage Ron to step up a magazine release, appoint a new editor or something, but calling it rubbish is a pretty harsh and unfair assessment of the magazine. On 3/6/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I aggree kev. however as far as I can remember, articles dropped off so now audiogames.net is where you go and audyssey is crappy rubbish! I am not saying don't take it out the bin and dust it off, but the fact is that there is almost nothing to read in it these days and its so nonregular I don't notice it as much as I used to. I do support the revival, previding the mag can be edited by a few or something at least get a regular schedual as it used to have. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6152 - Release Date: 03/06/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I don't know tom it was unfair to the mag in its origiona format and I wouldn't dis it. however I feel that over the last few issues as stuff has shifted that it has degraded over the years. most of the news and letters I have gotten weeks in advance. Most have the net well most of the western section of the world has it any maybe others my point is, in the old days audyssey was a mail magazine then a magazine that was round on the net. Its primary purpose was for the interactive fiction and other dos games. along comes the net and its job is prity much done as it is. A revision of the magazine needs to be urgently performed. Its funny, I used to read the mag and waste a good hour on it. over the last few years its been this small pile of crap, not that its crap but most of it I have seen before, vary little articles, and audiogames.net had a lot more info. Though every time I read it I remembered the older issues. Every time I thought, hmmm this mag really needs something done its total crap, I'll do something about it. Then I'd promptly forget. I had loads of ideas for the mag then I'dconvieniently forget those. The down hill of the trend of the mag has been on my mind ever since issue 31 onwards. If audyssey.org will be articles and stuff thats fine but bar the news from the devs that did not make to email well all the news maybe the dnd articles and the adventure article gru and imortal gamer and other columns well if these are shifted thats the end of the mag. though I can't wait for a revision. At 05:38 PM 3/7/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, While I agree that it is a pity that Audyssey hasn't kept up with the quarterly release schedule I also know that life does get in the way. Once I reboot the Audyssey site we can see if we can encourage Ron to step up a magazine release, appoint a new editor or something, but calling it rubbish is a pretty harsh and unfair assessment of the magazine. On 3/6/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I aggree kev. however as far as I can remember, articles dropped off so now audiogames.net is where you go and audyssey is crappy rubbish! I am not saying don't take it out the bin and dust it off, but the fact is that there is almost nothing to read in it these days and its so nonregular I don't notice it as much as I used to. I do support the revival, previding the mag can be edited by a few or something at least get a regular schedual as it used to have. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I wander if there would be any use that as well as having audyssey in all the formats its in including podcast which would be good I'd like it in a more modern blog form or at least parts of it. This is probably further down the road, but an idea would be to have an apple/android and win8 app. really not sure what those would do though. I read a lot of magazines and other publications have contests and competitions and to modernise we should start including a heck more of those. At 05:43 PM 3/7/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Of course, it will take time. As is so often said Roam wasn't built over night, but I am not attempting to mirror Audiogames.net exactly anyway. For the moment I think a link to Audiogames..net will do until we create our own game reviews etc. The basic idea orplan is just to get Audyssey out there on the web and have something more than a placeholder for the list subscription. On 3/6/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: true we need more good things. there are to few places ot there however its going to be a huge undertaking to mirror something like audiogames.net. if we could get something like that as audyssey maybe with out the forums still. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well I have a certifficate in radio broadcast from a local coledge I don't have every bit of equipment but if I had audio files of people reviewing things that would be fine I guess. ofcause the issue would be if I had to do anything crazy, so maybe not for me. but yeah when things come. At 05:59 PM 3/7/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Regarding podcasts etc we can discuss that once the new website is up and running. However, if we are going to do it we need a decent show host to do the podcast. Not everyone is necessarily qualified for that position and as with any kind of public media it takes the right kind of person to do it properly not to mention the right kind of equipment etc. For example, I have listened to a number of amateur podcasts where the person throws in a number of oh and um and uh every few minutes which is absolutely irritating. All of that can be edited out of course, but few amateur podcasters take the time to get a nice professional cast by editing out all the extra garbage. So if we went with a podcast I would hope we could find plenty of people willing to do editing and post production to get a high quality and professional cast rather than something produced by someone's $10.00 PC microphone and a sound recording program. Cheers! On 3/6/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: on the note of change though this may disadvantage a relitive few, I want to put foreward the thought about putting audyssey mag to be in a podcast form of a sort. There are several reasons. firstly we have 1 central editor, ron doing everything. That was fine with a central editer with disks and even in the early days of the net but as I found myself offline life and other junk in general gets me to not be able to complete all things I wanted. unless I focus on it soly for example yesterday I took down the entire network for a virus scan and image backup. I killed several viruses in the backup drives and imaged 2 units but it took roughly 24 hours to do it and I didn't do anything in fact most of it was done while I was sleeping. Another point. why bother about audyssey.org at all, we have the audiogames forum for just about everything. I respected the mag, it was good. when mike fair did it, but most of the goodness was before the net. in the year 1995 that changed slowly but surely. Sadly not to many articles come out . The magazine is prity much crap and junk and stupid now. I stress that its crappyness is not its fault, its just its not been upgraded in ages probably since it came online. A lot of news is in the forum more update sometimes than the news the devs send and they hardly send anything out these days its all slowed down. Even the opensource hackers have slowed. its not as good as it was pickings are slim, etc. We probably should upgrade it to some sort of cast on different reviews including game demos and playthroughs etc, I can't do everything but thanks to a little dosh required to get my system to a level where I can broadcast off it to tbrn on a cohosting role I have a adaquit microphone setup, ofcause I can't record game reviews and recordings at the same time without it sounding from an outside pospective but still,it could be something to do. I realise that not everyone will a appreciate this especially those on dialup but I feel that a sofficient number of people are on broadband sertainly enough to justify the upgrade. On the other hand stopping audyssey and switching it back to google groups and not having the mag is fine. If text is still what people want the only other way to do it is reduce the format, there used to be a letters sections a reviews section, a dnd section sometimes an imortal gamer section and a dev news section. The game adventure stuff with the imortal gamer and or game rescue unit really grabs me so if thats left in fine. the letters are most emails from the list so should go. the dev news should go unless devs want to post their junk at the mag. the dnd section should stay. reviews and casts are on the forums but I guess some for stuff not reviewed before can go there. the articles can stay to. Also I think that 1. either we have a shorter publication time to publish or just pile everything in every 6 months or something. I can't even remember the last issue I think I glanced over the last few without much interest. the first 20-30 were the best but with the net thats prity much moved focus of tech and junk away from the old text mag. The other thing is, how much is actually out there. most of it we know bar vary few things that are not coman. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
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Well you may as well know submitting is just not my thing, ok, writing in general is one of my week points, could never make essays etc long enough to save my bacon, still can't. Life sucks some times I aggree. I have done some tech casts reviewing different things and always planned to do more ofcause I am limited to pc games and don't have pro hardware really. if however you need any more help I am fine with helping. At 06:14 PM 3/7/2013, you wrote: Hi I'll have to agree. Yes I'll admit to dropping the ball on things but like Tom says it's life and computer crashes don't help. and all things being equal whenever did Shaun ever submit something? I had both my primary and external die in about a month of each other. I do want to switch to more of a podcast format as I agree it's time to move. a friend and I are working on it. I plan to stay at the helm it just takes some thinking in an alternative version. Ron On 06-Mar-2013 11:38 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, While I agree that it is a pity that Audyssey hasn't kept up with the quarterly release schedule I also know that life does get in the way. Once I reboot the Audyssey site we can see if we can encourage Ron to step up a magazine release, appoint a new editor or something, but calling it rubbish is a pretty harsh and unfair assessment of the magazine. On 3/6/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I aggree kev. however as far as I can remember, articles dropped off so now audiogames.net is where you go and audyssey is crappy rubbish! I am not saying don't take it out the bin and dust it off, but the fact is that there is almost nothing to read in it these days and its so nonregular I don't notice it as much as I used to. I do support the revival, previding the mag can be edited by a few or something at least get a regular schedual as it used to have. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6152 - Release Date: 03/06/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Aaron, Absolutely... I'm still going to be using .NET Framework 2.0 and DirectX 9 for backwards compatibility to Win 2000, XP, 2003, but have forward compatibility with Windows Vista. Eventually, though since Microsoft has announced it's lack of desire to support Windows 9x with DirectX and .NET in future releases I'll have to abandon support for those older operating systems do to lack of MS support and incompatibilities created by updates and fixes for 2000, XP, but none for 9x. However, as it currently stands I can support every operating system from 98 to Vista, but am not sure when I will officially be removing 98 and ME from supported operating systems. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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As far as I know the beta has already been released. But I thought that there is a completely new programming environment for Vista. - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. I could've sworn I downloaded the net framework 3 a few weeks ago for windows XP. - For an amazing video gaming site containing original soundtracks, game art, etc, go here. http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 - Original Message - From: Davy Kager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. I think that the .NET Framework will be released for WinXP too. And the same goes for DirectX 10, however not all hardware support it correctly so there's no reason to upgrade. Most Vista-standards will come out for XP either. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Well, eventually I suspect you will need to do so at some point in time as Microsoft is introducing allot of new technologies in Vista like the managed SAPI support, built in speech recognition, .NET Framework 3, DirectX 10.0, and a bunch of new stuff that is not available on earlier versions of Windows. One thing that immediately comes to mind is support for the new hd blue ray dvds. MS has already made a statement only Vista and later versions will support the new dvds, and will not be making the technology backward compatible with 2000, 2003, and XP. Apparently, some of this is a clear attempt by MS to make a totally new generation of Windows as different from XP as 95 was to 3.11. Cheers. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Thomas, My game development computer is a Dell Pentium 4 2.0 ghz. My Internet computer is a Dell Celeron 2.4 ghz. Both have 512 meg of ram. So if I were to add memory I am sure that they could run Vista. But I am very happy with XP and the way that they run now. Plus most of what Vista offers such as 3d graphics I would have no use for. But hey in a couple of years or whatever when I need to buy a new computer hopefully they will have the bugs worked out of Vista and have a screen reader that works well with it. Plus I will buy a computer with all of the memory it needs, a dual core processor and a huge hard drive rather than adding those to what I have now. But even then if I can I might still go with XP. Will have to wait and see what people think of Vista by then. BFN Jim Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction - Albert Einstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Davy, No, Windows Vista developers still use Visual Studio 2005. The only diference is they will likely install the new platform SDK which includes the new managed SAPI, .NET Framework, and a bunch of other cool stuf. Davy Kager wrote: As far as I know the beta has already been released. But I thought that there is a completely new programming environment for Vista. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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I didn't mean the programmers side. I rather meant a new technology like .NET. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Hi Davy, No, Windows Vista developers still use Visual Studio 2005. The only diference is they will likely install the new platform SDK which includes the new managed SAPI, .NET Framework, and a bunch of other cool stuf. Davy Kager wrote: As far as I know the beta has already been released. But I thought that there is a completely new programming environment for Vista. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Jim, I am not a fan of Del computers, prefering home built machines to factory built ones, but the system specs of your computers are still pretty good. I'm certain your systems fall in the minimum specs for Vista, and are pretty equal to what I have on my desktop. The Vista machines I have seen just being put out on the shelves at Best Buy, Comp USA, Wal-Mart, etc are speed demons. The ones I have seen have 1 GB of ram, pretty high grade video chipsets, and 3 GHZ of processor speed and better.Not to mention dvd player/burners built into them. I'd love to get my hands one one of those boxes, but don't have the money. The only reason I am getting Vista at all is I got a really good deal on the software. I paid $122 for the full version rather than the $250 retail price for it. Since I home build my computers I qualify for OEM versions of the software which are legal copies of Vista, but are only for equipment manufacturers and home builders. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Brandon, Interesting. I figure to get JFW 8 working the person you know of ran Vista under a more triditional desktop setting. I'll be more than happy to try Jaws 8 under Vista and see how it works. Cheers. Brandon Hicks wrote: Hi, I beg to differ on the point of running JFW on Vista. I know of at least one person who's running JFW 8 on Vista. I'm not sure which version, or what features were enabled, but it is possible. I personally will only upgrade to Vista when I get a new computer. I do like the ideas of it, but I've got other things to save up my money for. Brandon ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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but will your games still work on windows xp? regards, aaron ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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i'm not planning to upgrade to vista at all! lol regards, damien - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Oh my, thats a load of upgrades, you are going the full hog. what is lightscribe, what does that mean, I have never heard of that term before. I have no plans to upgrade to vista at the moment. On a side note if you set your speech recognition right you can dictate things. maybe programming games could get faster. At 07:49 p.m. 22/02/2007, you wrote: Hello everyone, This is an important notice that this coming Friday through Sunday evening my computer system will be down do to major system wide upgrades. I will likely be not very active on lists or emailing friends and family much this week as I will spend most of the time before Friday backing up all my books, documents, game source code, product keys, and everything else I will need for a complete and fresh installation of my desktop computer's operating system. For those interested I am going to be upgrading my video card to an ATI All In Wonder Pro 128 MB video card, will be adding an extra 512 MB of ram, will be installing a new HP DVD duel layer burner with light scribe ability, and once the hard ware changes have been made I plan to format the hard drive and install a fresh copy of Windows Vista along with the just released Window Eyes 6.1 beta for Vista. After that I will be installing only the latest versions of the software I use that I am certain is compatible with the new operating system. Some things I have needed to upgrade anyway like AVG which is at version 7.5 and I am still running with 7.1. The Firefox version and Thunderbird versions I have are not the newest, but not super out of date. However, since I am going with Vista I will likely be upgrading patches and updates for everything to make sure my new massively updated system will be pretty good. After that all I have to worry about is after that all I need to do is wait for the Window Eyes 6.1 full version to come out which I will certainly get asap. Cheers. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Damien, I don't plan to up grade to Vista either. Well until I need to buy a new computer and can get it only with Vista. Guess one reason is that the version of JFW (4.02) that I am running probably won't work on Vista. grin BFN - Original Message - i'm not planning to upgrade to vista at all! lol regards, damien Jim If at first you don't succeed...get new batteries [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Why not? - Original Message - From: damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. i'm not planning to upgrade to vista at all! lol regards, damien - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Oh my, thats a load of upgrades, you are going the full hog. what is lightscribe, what does that mean, I have never heard of that term before. I have no plans to upgrade to vista at the moment. On a side note if you set your speech recognition right you can dictate things. maybe programming games could get faster. At 07:49 p.m. 22/02/2007, you wrote: Hello everyone, This is an important notice that this coming Friday through Sunday evening my computer system will be down do to major system wide upgrades. I will likely be not very active on lists or emailing friends and family much this week as I will spend most of the time before Friday backing up all my books, documents, game source code, product keys, and everything else I will need for a complete and fresh installation of my desktop computer's operating system. For those interested I am going to be upgrading my video card to an ATI All In Wonder Pro 128 MB video card, will be adding an extra 512 MB of ram, will be installing a new HP DVD duel layer burner with light scribe ability, and once the hard ware changes have been made I plan to format the hard drive and install a fresh copy of Windows Vista along with the just released Window Eyes 6.1 beta for Vista. After that I will be installing only the latest versions of the software I use that I am certain is compatible with the new operating system. Some things I have needed to upgrade anyway like AVG which is at version 7.5 and I am still running with 7.1. The Firefox version and Thunderbird versions I have are not the newest, but not super out of date. However, since I am going with Vista I will likely be upgrading patches and updates for everything to make sure my new massively updated system will be pretty good. After that all I have to worry about is after that all I need to do is wait for the Window Eyes 6.1 full version to come out which I will certainly get asap. Cheers. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. __ NOD32 2074 (20070221) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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because i don't like the fact that it uses the .net framework, or that some systems still don't work with the .net framework. regards, damien. - Original Message - From: Gerry Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Why not? - Original Message - From: damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. i'm not planning to upgrade to vista at all! lol regards, damien - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Oh my, thats a load of upgrades, you are going the full hog. what is lightscribe, what does that mean, I have never heard of that term before. I have no plans to upgrade to vista at the moment. On a side note if you set your speech recognition right you can dictate things. maybe programming games could get faster. At 07:49 p.m. 22/02/2007, you wrote: Hello everyone, This is an important notice that this coming Friday through Sunday evening my computer system will be down do to major system wide upgrades. I will likely be not very active on lists or emailing friends and family much this week as I will spend most of the time before Friday backing up all my books, documents, game source code, product keys, and everything else I will need for a complete and fresh installation of my desktop computer's operating system. For those interested I am going to be upgrading my video card to an ATI All In Wonder Pro 128 MB video card, will be adding an extra 512 MB of ram, will be installing a new HP DVD duel layer burner with light scribe ability, and once the hard ware changes have been made I plan to format the hard drive and install a fresh copy of Windows Vista along with the just released Window Eyes 6.1 beta for Vista. After that I will be installing only the latest versions of the software I use that I am certain is compatible with the new operating system. Some things I have needed to upgrade anyway like AVG which is at version 7.5 and I am still running with 7.1. The Firefox version and Thunderbird versions I have are not the newest, but not super out of date. However, since I am going with Vista I will likely be upgrading patches and updates for everything to make sure my new massively updated system will be pretty good. After that all I have to worry about is after that all I need to do is wait for the Window Eyes 6.1 full version to come out which I will certainly get asap. Cheers. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. __ NOD32 2074 (20070221) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Well, eventually I suspect you will need to do so at some point in time as Microsoft is introducing allot of new technologies in Vista like the managed SAPI support, built in speech recognition, .NET Framework 3, DirectX 10.0, and a bunch of new stuff that is not available on earlier versions of Windows. One thing that immediately comes to mind is support for the new hd blue ray dvds. MS has already made a statement only Vista and later versions will support the new dvds, and will not be making the technology backward compatible with 2000, 2003, and XP. Apparently, some of this is a clear attempt by MS to make a totally new generation of Windows as different from XP as 95 was to 3.11. Cheers. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Shaun, Light scribe is a feature of very recent dvd and cd burner designs which allows you to flip the disk over and directly burn an image on to the disks surface using your burners laser rather than using the more traditional paper and ink labels. As a result the disks will have a more professional look and feel since rather than paper the image is burned on the disk just like manufactured music cds, dvds, etc. It isn't something likely that we in the blind community would notice but once I come up with digital labels and stuff for the USA Games products my disks I ship out for Raceway, Montezuma's Revenge, would look allot more professional and slicker than if I stuck an ink label on it and dropped it in the mail. Besides the main reason I got the new burner was rather than being able to burn single layered dvds I can use the newer double density dvds which gives me 9 GB of storage space per disk and not 4. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Jim, Yes, anyone seaking to update to Vista needs a fairly modern PC to even run it. Especially, with the new 3D desktop Windows arrow. If you run Vista with the classic XP desktop you can ssqueeze with 800 MHZ and 512 MB of ram. If you run it using the 3D desktop you will need to basically double that system requirement. It also needs 40 MB of hard drive space, and 64 MB or better of vidio card memory. In short Vista is a system resource hog, but on modern computers it will do fine. Just won't run on anything manufactured before 2003 or so. Also JFW 4.x will absolutely not run on Vista. Not even JFW 8. Vista is a completely new animal and needs to be treated as such. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Josh, Well, I don't think most users will want to upgrade right away anyway. The accessibility for Vista just isn't really out there yet. There is WE 6.1 beta, and Windows marrater, but Jaws users will have to wait for Jaws next major release to have Vista support, and even then if it is anything like WE the accessibility isn't 100% altogether there yet. Probably needs a couple of screen reader upgrades to get the bugs worked out of the new Vista and accessibility Vista has. While Vista has MSAA backward compatibility it's using something new for all of it's applications like I.E. 7 and Outlook Express 7 to name a few. All of that said I think Vista is a good step in the right direction, and from having tinkered with it in the past using narrater I think it is a really cool os, and wanted a copy of my own to work on, play with, and get use to even though access isn't 100% ready just yet. I still have XP on my laptop so it's not like if everything blows up I won't have a working system on hand. Although, I don't think I will have much problems once Window eyes 6.1 full comes out later this spring. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Damien, Well, the .NET Framework and .NET applications is something everyone is going to have to get use to sooner or later seeing as Microsoft has been promoting it since 2002, and has made it manditory for Vista, and beyond. Honestly, I don't see any systems using 98 and above having much problems with .NET provided the app is .NET Framework 2.0 compatible. .NET 3.0 apps I believe will only run on 2000 XP, 2003, and Vista so 9x users are going to have to update soon or be left in the dust technology wize. The entire point of .NET though is to bridge the gap between operating systems and insure the app you run on Vista is still compatible with 2000, XP, etc without having to recompile, reset build flags, and a bunch of other stuff. Just install the framework, and the app and away you go. Even though I am soon to have Framework 3.0 I will still be supporting .NET 2.0 for a while to keep older systems in the loop and not alienate those with less up to date systems. Now, that MS has officially made .NET a core component of Vista you will see more and more .NET enabled applications, and old VB 6 programmers and anyone using old school languages will be left in the dust unless they update there skills to VB.NET, C#.NET, C++.NET, etc. Also don't be to suprised if you begin seeing allot more Vista features popping up in new apps such as menu strips rather than menu bars, and other new changes in the look and feel of newer applications. damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive wrote: because i don't like the fact that it uses the .net framework, or that some systems still don't work with the .net framework. regards, damien. - Original Message - From: Gerry Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Why not? - Original Message - From: damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. i'm not planning to upgrade to vista at all! lol regards, damien - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Oh my, thats a load of upgrades, you are going the full hog. what is lightscribe, what does that mean, I have never heard of that term before. I have no plans to upgrade to vista at the moment. On a side note if you set your speech recognition right you can dictate things. maybe programming games could get faster. At 07:49 p.m. 22/02/2007, you wrote: Hello everyone, This is an important notice that this coming Friday through Sunday evening my computer system will be down do to major system wide upgrades. I will likely be not very active on lists or emailing friends and family much this week as I will spend most of the time before Friday backing up all my books, documents, game source code, product keys, and everything else I will need for a complete and fresh installation of my desktop computer's operating system. For those interested I am going to be upgrading my video card to an ATI All In Wonder Pro 128 MB video card, will be adding an extra 512 MB of ram, will be installing a new HP DVD duel layer burner with light scribe ability, and once the hard ware changes have been made I plan to format the hard drive and install a fresh copy of Windows Vista along with the just released Window Eyes 6.1 beta for Vista. After that I will be installing only the latest versions of the software I use that I am certain is compatible with the new operating system. Some things I have needed to upgrade anyway like AVG which is at version 7.5 and I am still running with 7.1. The Firefox version and Thunderbird versions I have are not the newest, but not super out of date. However, since I am going with Vista I will likely be upgrading patches and updates for everything to make sure my new massively updated system will be pretty good. After that all I have to worry about is after that all I need to do is wait for the Window Eyes 6.1 full version to come out which I will certainly get asap. Cheers. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web
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Hi, I am pretty sure MS will be releasing a DirectX 10 and .NET Framework 3 for Windows 2000 and above, but Windows 9x is basically scrapped as far as MS is concerned. There is already a developers only release of .NET 3 for XP, and I don't see devs jumping on 3.0 so soon after 2.0 was released last fall. Even after I get Vista up and running I'll be installing the older sdks to insure backwards compatibility with the older operating systems. Davy Kager wrote: I think that the .NET Framework will be released for WinXP too. And the same goes for DirectX 10, however not all hardware support it correctly so there's no reason to upgrade. Most Vista-standards will come out for XP either. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Damien, I have no idea where you have gathered your information about the .NET Framework, but it is very much incorrect. The .NET Framework itself is completely accessible. As for the development ides VS 2003 and VS 2005 are also accessible provided you are using a fairly modern version of Jaws or Window Eyes. If you are using something like Jaws 4 or 5 forget it. With Jaws 7-8 or Window Eyes 5.5-6.0 then VS .NET is fine. I'd say through end user experience Window eyes support for Visual Studio .NET is superior to the half-hearted attempt Jaws is using. As far as stibility from .NET Framework 2.0 onward it has been pretty stable. Just because you may have had some end user bad experiences, can happen with any piece of software, doesn't make it true the software is deffective or buggy most of the time. In fact, my experience in the field is I have very little problem with the framework when end users were not running mised matched versioning, and wasn't awareyt he framework needed to be installed prier to installing a managed component for DirectX, SAPI, and some of the newer technologies MS has come out with. Bottomline I don't know what flaws you speak of, and I run several Framework based apps with absolutely no trouble at all. As for Vista's classic option it resorts to a XP style desktop. The truly classic desktop option you are thinking of no longer really exists as far as I am awayre. However, you can turn off the Windows Arrow 3D desktop which is a major accessibility hangup at the moment which I will certainly be doing. damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive wrote: i don't know why everyone is getting so uptight about .net. i mean, it's new technology, so it'll probably have many flaws until at least two or three years of upgrading, and like xp, vista should have a classic option. yes, speech technology may advance, but with the new accessibility engine people are having to learn from scratch again, not to mention also having to switch to .net which is already not accessible. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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I could've sworn I downloaded the net framework 3 a few weeks ago for windows XP. - For an amazing video gaming site containing original soundtracks, game art, etc, go here. http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 - Original Message - From: Davy Kager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. I think that the .NET Framework will be released for WinXP too. And the same goes for DirectX 10, however not all hardware support it correctly so there's no reason to upgrade. Most Vista-standards will come out for XP either. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Well, eventually I suspect you will need to do so at some point in time as Microsoft is introducing allot of new technologies in Vista like the managed SAPI support, built in speech recognition, .NET Framework 3, DirectX 10.0, and a bunch of new stuff that is not available on earlier versions of Windows. One thing that immediately comes to mind is support for the new hd blue ray dvds. MS has already made a statement only Vista and later versions will support the new dvds, and will not be making the technology backward compatible with 2000, 2003, and XP. Apparently, some of this is a clear attempt by MS to make a totally new generation of Windows as different from XP as 95 was to 3.11. Cheers. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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i have run four laptops and two desktops that have all had one issue or another with the .net framework and accessibility. it always tends to be the gui side of things. i was running che's railracer game fine before i got this new system, although it was the registration dialogs and the track editor programs that i had problems with. on this system whenever i run any .net based app it comes up with one of those annoying error dialogs claiming that the program has encountered a problem and needs to close. as for the vs.net, again, on all systems of running it except on one of my friend's computers, it would always crash and say it wasn't responding, whereas on the friend's computer jaws was having a problem with it, saying that there were errors in the script and acting up that way. so on the six computers i've been using to run .net apps in general, and the four computers i used to try out vs.net, it has always acted up one way or another. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Hi Damien, I have no idea where you have gathered your information about the .NET Framework, but it is very much incorrect. The .NET Framework itself is completely accessible. As for the development ides VS 2003 and VS 2005 are also accessible provided you are using a fairly modern version of Jaws or Window Eyes. If you are using something like Jaws 4 or 5 forget it. With Jaws 7-8 or Window Eyes 5.5-6.0 then VS .NET is fine. I'd say through end user experience Window eyes support for Visual Studio .NET is superior to the half-hearted attempt Jaws is using. As far as stibility from .NET Framework 2.0 onward it has been pretty stable. Just because you may have had some end user bad experiences, can happen with any piece of software, doesn't make it true the software is deffective or buggy most of the time. In fact, my experience in the field is I have very little problem with the framework when end users were not running mised matched versioning, and wasn't awareyt he framework needed to be installed prier to installing a managed component for DirectX, SAPI, and some of the newer technologies MS has come out with. Bottomline I don't know what flaws you speak of, and I run several Framework based apps with absolutely no trouble at all. As for Vista's classic option it resorts to a XP style desktop. The truly classic desktop option you are thinking of no longer really exists as far as I am awayre. However, you can turn off the Windows Arrow 3D desktop which is a major accessibility hangup at the moment which I will certainly be doing. damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive wrote: i don't know why everyone is getting so uptight about .net. i mean, it's new technology, so it'll probably have many flaws until at least two or three years of upgrading, and like xp, vista should have a classic option. yes, speech technology may advance, but with the new accessibility engine people are having to learn from scratch again, not to mention also having to switch to .net which is already not accessible. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi, I suppose that is possible. It was released around the same time Vista came out. Yohandy wrote: I could've sworn I downloaded the net framework 3 a few weeks ago for windows XP. - For an amazing video gaming site containing original soundtracks, game art, etc, go here. http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 - Original Message - From: Davy Kager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. I think that the .NET Framework will be released for WinXP too. And the same goes for DirectX 10, however not all hardware support it correctly so there's no reason to upgrade. Most Vista-standards will come out for XP either. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important notice. Well, eventually I suspect you will need to do so at some point in time as Microsoft is introducing allot of new technologies in Vista like the managed SAPI support, built in speech recognition, .NET Framework 3, DirectX 10.0, and a bunch of new stuff that is not available on earlier versions of Windows. One thing that immediately comes to mind is support for the new hd blue ray dvds. MS has already made a statement only Vista and later versions will support the new dvds, and will not be making the technology backward compatible with 2000, 2003, and XP. Apparently, some of this is a clear attempt by MS to make a totally new generation of Windows as different from XP as 95 was to 3.11. Cheers. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi, I beg to differ on the point of running JFW on Vista. I know of at least one person who's running JFW 8 on Vista. I'm not sure which version, or what features were enabled, but it is possible. I personally will only upgrade to Vista when I get a new computer. I do like the ideas of it, but I've got other things to save up my money for. Brandon Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Yes, anyone seaking to update to Vista needs a fairly modern PC to even run it. Especially, with the new 3D desktop Windows arrow. If you run Vista with the classic XP desktop you can ssqueeze with 800 MHZ and 512 MB of ram. If you run it using the 3D desktop you will need to basically double that system requirement. It also needs 40 MB of hard drive space, and 64 MB or better of vidio card memory. In short Vista is a system resource hog, but on modern computers it will do fine. Just won't run on anything manufactured before 2003 or so. Also JFW 4.x will absolutely not run on Vista. Not even JFW 8. Vista is a completely new animal and needs to be treated as such. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
