Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Hi Dark, I'm sorry to say that is a pretty jaded position for someone who's only experience is using Windows XP and earlier. Other operating systems like Mac OS and Linux have a completely different approach to multi-user accounts than does Windows. I really wish you would not judge every operating system and multiple user accounts based on your own personal limited experience. Trust me I've used several different operating systems Mac OS, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, and Windows and generally having multiple user accounts is no big deal. It is just that the way Microsoft does it in Windows is a pretty poor implimentation of a multi-user environment. Honestly your attitude is like a guy who buys a new car and runs into car troubles. Suddenly he believes every car madewill have the same problems. Obviously, that kind of thinking is unrealistic, and your opinion is equally unrealistic when taken in the wider scheme of things. Cheers! On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 20:37 +, dark wrote: > I'm sorry willem, but in all the years I've used computers I've seen far > more problems with user accounts than I have applications creating harmful > code, - I backup constantly anyway). > > IIf this is the purpose, it strikes me the cure is worse than the > desease, if ever there was actually a serious enough desease to bother > me in the first place. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Hi Shaun, Actually, most modrn Linux operating systems don't have or use a root account. Instead they use an admin tool called sudo which allows a user to execute admin commands using a standard account. For example, to install MOTA on Ubuntu Linux you would run the setup like sudo dpkg -i mota-beta11-i386.deb and the game would be installed. Obviously, though you would have to launch the setup from an account that is configured with sudo access. This is pretty much the same concept as the "run as administrator" option under Windows 7. On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 09:38 +1300, shaun everiss wrote: > well linux manages security better than windows. > in fact windows is trying to get security set right like linux. > unfortunately linux does not have uac. > Most things are allowed but if you need to access something that needs access > well you need the root password. > and ofcause you can bypass that with a command with a config that has things > you want active in it for easy access to things like shutdown. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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This is why I never read his Emails. Bad advice like this infuriates me. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games Sean, out of interest why do you suggest reformatting as the answer to any computer related tech support question? Appologies for seeming abrupt, but it just seems someone mentions some slight problem, which might be as much a case of a user not yet knowing the ins and outs of how to work things, and you instantly suggest reformatting, even before we know what the problem is. This seems a little to me like suggesting someone bulldose their house down when they say their front door is stuck. Of course, there are circumstances were reformmatting is necessary, --- but as a last response, not a first. appologies for the comment, it just seems that whenever someone brings up a technical question of any type your answer is "reformat" and we always have this discussion. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
well linux manages security better than windows. in fact windows is trying to get security set right like linux. unfortunately linux does not have uac. Most things are allowed but if you need to access something that needs access well you need the root password. and ofcause you can bypass that with a command with a config that has things you want active in it for easy access to things like shutdown. At 06:00 a.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote: >I seemed to remember from one of her earlier posts that Shirly was using Xp, > hence my explanation, though i could well be wrong of course. > >I personally stil don't see why microsoft have to muck about with all this >multi user account sicurity shinanigans, when there are so many people who are >just a single person using one machine. > >While I understand for businesses and institutions user accounts are needed, > I don't see why there can't be a basic option to disable this and have >everything written as standard. > >Every serious computer problem I've ever had has been related to user >accounts, iether user account errors, my computer starting with the wrong >account, files beeing written to the wrong account etc, from my >perspective it's just caused nothing but trouble, and it sounds like the >future versions of windows just make this worse. > >I'm afraid Tom you've just provided me with a very convincing arguement not to >upgrade to windows 7, - or lynux for that matter. > >Beware the grue! > >Dark. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
I'm sorry willem, but in all the years I've used computers I've seen far more problems with user accounts than I have applications creating harmful code, - I backup constantly anyway). IIf this is the purpose, it strikes me the cure is worse than the desease, if ever there was actually a serious enough desease to bother me in the first place. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Actually wish I could solve more issues. Although I put myself out as knowing heaps of things all you need do is take away my list boxes, checkboxes buttons and radio controls. through in a regedit, and I will be completely stumped. if its on the screen, if I can run it and if I can fix it with some instructions I can do it. If I need to do a regedit I might be able to do it, probably can. if its downloading and running something yeah I can do it. if its coppying a file depending where it needs to be I can probably do it. finding something maybe. scanning, maybe. However give me something I have no idea of and I am rather in a pickle. And if you restrict what works and whatever then I am as sunk as a drouning destroyer. This does not happen much but the deepist I can get in most windows stuff is surface level. I have some knowledge of the command window a basic of linux, a full on dos because I used it when I was yunger. however in today's world I'm just a shellfish, if I fall off my rock I am finnished and done for. in the early days i was able to push in codes and buttons and i knew sort of what was around now all you need to do is give me a sound issue or something weird and I sink. At 09:36 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: >wow your second name is format, I think. >- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:04 AM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games > > >>um why exactly will your hard drive not accept compressed files? >>I suggest you reformat and the problem will go away. >>Actually why only run standard programs and not compressed. >>you either have your security system screwed or you just need to reformat or >>something. >>At 01:29 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: >>>Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. >>>I tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only >>>applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. >>>Sincerely, Shirley >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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hmmm well truth be told its what I do when I have no idea how to fix something. I had it lucky though for a while was easy to do and I have backups of everything. Since I have not heard an issue where sertain files are not accepted on other drives, of a user's system, etc then there are 2 avenues the user error which could be probably the case where they don't have the right tools for the job then actual computer error. If such an error it could be a virus, or a program or something. In some cases where for example its a long process to reformat I try to solve the issue issues like this have happened to sapi which with another system I resolved though it did take a while. In the other case with a recorder the system did something weird during install and it didn't work unless I fiddled with it some got it working semi ok but then after updating it realising I didn't need the update or lost some function I uninstalled it again. and the same issue. The recorder in question has never worked properly so I have a replacement. However if I ever want to get another recorder like that again I will probably have to reformat. however for now as long as I don't lose both recorders the latter of which does not need software at all I should be ok. In most cases when I do maintain a system in particular those which little kids and those that go all over the net the first thing I do is reformat. this gets rid of any viruses and wastes less time in the fact I know that It can take me a couple days to a week to reinstall rather than take an unknown ammount of time to fix another issue. this was the case in my uncle's system. a good reformat fixed that. But being a del and the fact loads of visual work had to take place before I could use it the second time round I had to take the long road. The basic issues were fixed, that of the updating, cleaning and spyware and virus removal. in fact this was all done in 2 hours. it took me 3 days to trouplechute and fix issues that the system did not run right with some drive display issues. On that note I have been spoilt with the fact that on my previous system if something went wrong all I did on my old system was put in a disk, and push 3 keys at startup. the system was reformatted and nothing was really wrong until it crashed again naturally I have been spoilt. If I find any unknown issue that I can't find the solution about I generally solve first and research later depending on when the system is needed by. So a reformat is always what happens, and if I can find a way to prevent other issues I put it into practice. though, I have had instances, one where myself I did not have the right app loaded, and took it for granted that i had the right settings and never checked I did or not. I put up with the issue, and when it went I reformatted. that was until by chance I manually envoked the settings to fix the issue found that the program was on my drive and I had not loaded it or set it up. the other issue was when I tested some scripts and found bugs. However it took a long time searching for them, and reporting the issue was a snap. I have also got my share of worms in the past. Thankfully with this newish system although I have had my share of klango and system lockups, screen reader crashes mostly on the net, etc I havn't had any real issue. 7/01/2010, you wrote: >Sean, out of interest why do you suggest reformatting as the answer to any >computer related tech support question? > >Appologies for seeming abrupt, but it just seems someone mentions some slight >problem, which might be as much a case of a user not yet knowing the ins >and outs of how to work things, and you instantly suggest reformatting, >even before we know what the problem is. > >This seems a little to me like suggesting someone bulldose their house down >when they say their front door is stuck. > >Of course, there are circumstances were reformmatting is necessary, --- but as >a last response, not a first. > >appologies for the comment, it just seems that whenever someone brings up a >technical question of any type your answer is "reformat" and we always have >this discussion. > >Beware the grue! > >Dark. > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived an
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
the main benifit of user accounts is that applications can't exicute harmful code on your computer. Also windows form of user account control is not a good example. Actually they made many mistakes among others that the interface is buggy and annoying. As this is not game related I'll stop now. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games I seemed to remember from one of her earlier posts that Shirly was using Xp, hence my explanation, though i could well be wrong of course. I personally stil don't see why microsoft have to muck about with all this multi user account sicurity shinanigans, when there are so many people who are just a single person using one machine. While I understand for businesses and institutions user accounts are needed, I don't see why there can't be a basic option to disable this and have everything written as standard. Every serious computer problem I've ever had has been related to user accounts, iether user account errors, my computer starting with the wrong account, files beeing written to the wrong account etc, from my perspective it's just caused nothing but trouble, and it sounds like the future versions of windows just make this worse. I'm afraid Tom you've just provided me with a very convincing arguement not to upgrade to windows 7, - or lynux for that matter. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
I seemed to remember from one of her earlier posts that Shirly was using Xp, hence my explanation, though i could well be wrong of course. I personally stil don't see why microsoft have to muck about with all this multi user account sicurity shinanigans, when there are so many people who are just a single person using one machine. While I understand for businesses and institutions user accounts are needed, I don't see why there can't be a basic option to disable this and have everything written as standard. Every serious computer problem I've ever had has been related to user accounts, iether user account errors, my computer starting with the wrong account, files beeing written to the wrong account etc, from my perspective it's just caused nothing but trouble, and it sounds like the future versions of windows just make this worse. I'm afraid Tom you've just provided me with a very convincing arguement not to upgrade to windows 7, - or lynux for that matter. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, True, but on Windows Vista and later you need to run the setup file with admin rights or it will give you an installation error. I suspect if Shirley is using Vista or Windows 7 it is this error she is getting, and in that case it is a simple matter of running the install as administrator instead of standard user. One thing Microsoft did when they released Vista is they adopted a more Unix-like security system and added the user account control polacy manager. This is all well and good, but most people coming from XP have no experience with user right and file permissions. We Linux users have been use to this sort of thing for years so user account control is no big deal, and some of us say "it's about time." However, for Windows users not use to it they think of it as a serious pain in the tail. Cheers! On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 08:32 +, dark wrote: > I personally use 7zip, but you shouldn't need an extractor to handle > Jim's games as their self-extracting archives, just use the unzip button. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Agreed. Shaun's comment to reformat is way out of line. It appears to me Shirley's problems are just that she isn't familiar with the ins and outs of her computer system and there probably isn't anything seriously wrong with her computer. Instead of assuming there is something technical wrong we should be determining what Shirley's actual problem is and help her to resolve it constructively and not tell her to whipe out her system and begin with a fresh install of Windows unnecessarily. As you said there are times when a refomat is absolutely necessary, but this doesn't look like one of them. A case in point. I recently had to reformat one of my computers because a worm had infected the system and mangled the operating system. Nothing was lost, but I had no choice but to blow Windows away and install the operating system from scratch. In fact, I was so sick and tired of viruses and worms that system no longer is running Windows and is now running Linux instead. I sort of fixed the virus/worm problem perminately for that computer. On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 08:31 +, dark wrote: > Sean, out of interest why do you suggest reformatting as the answer to any > computer related tech support question? > > Appologies for seeming abrupt, but it just seems someone mentions some > slight problem, which might be as much a case of a user not yet knowing > the ins and outs of how to work things, and you instantly suggest > reformatting, even before we know what the problem is. > > This seems a little to me like suggesting someone bulldose their house down > when they say their front door is stuck. > > Of course, there are circumstances were reformmatting is necessary, --- but > as a last response, not a first. > > appologies for the comment, it just seems that whenever someone brings up a > technical question of any type your answer is "reformat" and we always have > this discussion. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi all I totally agree, I'd be willing to give whatever assistance I possibly could in the endeavour of gaming. Ron - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games Hello Shirley, When you say "my hard drive won't accept compressed files only applications" what does that mean exactly? I think rather than assuming this or that won't work on your computer the best thing to do is ask someone on how to solve problems like this as you seam to be having a lot of new computer user issues that have very simple and easy solutions. I don't want to sound condescending, but it really appears to me that you are very new to the computer, and don't have a lot of basic computer user skills. I would strongly recommend finding someone who can sit down with you and explain how to download stuff from the internet, unzip compressed archives, and any other basic computer skills that maybe you are not familiar with yet. It would also really help us if you could tell us what operating system you are using and what screen reader you are using. For example, the way you would do something on Windows XP is a little different on Windows Vista and Windows 7 so it is important to know which you have. I'm certainly willing to help you by e-mail, but that's We are certainly willing to help you, but you have to ask first. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello Shirley, When you say "my hard drive won't accept compressed files only applications" what does that mean exactly? I think rather than assuming this or that won't work on your computer the best thing to do is ask someone on how to solve problems like this as you seam to be having a lot of new computer user issues that have very simple and easy solutions. I don't want to sound condescending, but it really appears to me that you are very new to the computer, and don't have a lot of basic computer user skills. I would strongly recommend finding someone who can sit down with you and explain how to download stuff from the internet, unzip compressed archives, and any other basic computer skills that maybe you are not familiar with yet. It would also really help us if you could tell us what operating system you are using and what screen reader you are using. For example, the way you would do something on Windows XP is a little different on Windows Vista and Windows 7 so it is important to know which you have. I'm certainly willing to help you by e-mail, but that's We are certainly willing to help you, but you have to ask first. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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wow your second name is format, I think. - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games um why exactly will your hard drive not accept compressed files? I suggest you reformat and the problem will go away. Actually why only run standard programs and not compressed. you either have your security system screwed or you just need to reformat or something. At 01:29 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. I tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. Sincerely, Shirley --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
I personally use 7zip, but you shouldn't need an extractor to handle Jim's games as their self-extracting archives, just use the unzip button. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games well winzip from www.winzip.com is a good program. www.izarc.org is good for free things. the other extracters can be run normally. though you may have to run as admin or something. At 02:14 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: Um Shirley, I don't know how to say this, but maybe you should ask someone near you to discuss the running of programs, the uses of compressed files and so forth. In short, the compressed file can't be run and shouldn't be run. It is simply used to store files in a single location in a smaller package that keeps download sizes down. For Jim's games you should unzip the winkit.zip file in a folder like c:\temp and install the programs. After that there will be an item in your start menu called kitchensinc where you can play the games from. Extracting the other Kitchensinc games to the right folder will also make them available in the menu in the kitchensinc program. hth. - Original Message - From: "Shirley Starblanket" To: Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:29 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question on games Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. I tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. Sincerely, Shirley --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Sean, out of interest why do you suggest reformatting as the answer to any computer related tech support question? Appologies for seeming abrupt, but it just seems someone mentions some slight problem, which might be as much a case of a user not yet knowing the ins and outs of how to work things, and you instantly suggest reformatting, even before we know what the problem is. This seems a little to me like suggesting someone bulldose their house down when they say their front door is stuck. Of course, there are circumstances were reformmatting is necessary, --- but as a last response, not a first. appologies for the comment, it just seems that whenever someone brings up a technical question of any type your answer is "reformat" and we always have this discussion. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Shirley, Jim's golf and baseball games are great and well worth a try. running them should be symple just do the following: First, download and install the winkit file. To download it, as previously stated, when asked, click on save and save the file somewhere (for example in your my documents folder, then, open windows explorer with windows key (the one next to the left control key), and E, and find the winkit file, press enter on it and then go through the install process (pressing next all the time should be fine). Once you've got that, your ready to start on Jim's other games. As before, download one and save it in a location, then find it with windows explorer. This time, instead of an installer, you've got an unzip program. Tab around until you get to the message "To unzip to the following directory click the unzip button" and the unzip button itself. Press enter on that, and you'll have a message that a number of files have been unzipped to the kitchinsinc directory. Now, if you find the kitchinsinc item in your programs menue, you should open the directory and get a self voicing menue with the game of life, and any other games' you've unzipped, baseball and golf included. Hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shirley Starblanket" To: Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:29 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question on games Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. I tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. Sincerely, Shirley --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
thats point I forgot that. you can add and extract files. I have always liked external programs but probably because I have used them since 1995 At 05:55 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: >If you've got a newish machine the OS should have software built in that can >open those files. So I'm not sure what the issue is. >Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? >Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >- Original Message - From: "David Chittenden" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:51 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games > > >>Hello, >> >>Please do not suggest reformatting until we have much more information. >>Reformatting is a very drastic step, and someone who does not know what they >>are doing can end up with a very expensive paperweight and lose all of their >>data. >> >>David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA >>Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>shaun everiss wrote: >>>um why exactly will your hard drive not accept compressed files? >>>I suggest you reformat and the problem will go away. >>>Actually why only run standard programs and not compressed. >>>you either have your security system screwed or you just need to reformat or >>>something. >>>At 01:29 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: >>> >>>>Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. >>>>I tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only >>>>applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. >>>>Sincerely, Shirley >>>> >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
If you've got a newish machine the OS should have software built in that can open those files. So I'm not sure what the issue is. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "David Chittenden" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games Hello, Please do not suggest reformatting until we have much more information. Reformatting is a very drastic step, and someone who does not know what they are doing can end up with a very expensive paperweight and lose all of their data. David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com shaun everiss wrote: um why exactly will your hard drive not accept compressed files? I suggest you reformat and the problem will go away. Actually why only run standard programs and not compressed. you either have your security system screwed or you just need to reformat or something. At 01:29 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. I tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. Sincerely, Shirley --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Hello, Please do not suggest reformatting until we have much more information. Reformatting is a very drastic step, and someone who does not know what they are doing can end up with a very expensive paperweight and lose all of their data. David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com shaun everiss wrote: um why exactly will your hard drive not accept compressed files? I suggest you reformat and the problem will go away. Actually why only run standard programs and not compressed. you either have your security system screwed or you just need to reformat or something. At 01:29 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. I tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. Sincerely, Shirley --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
well winzip from www.winzip.com is a good program. www.izarc.org is good for free things. the other extracters can be run normally. though you may have to run as admin or something. At 02:14 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: >Um Shirley, I don't know how to say this, but maybe you should ask someone >near you to discuss the running of programs, the uses of compressed files and >so forth. > >In short, the compressed file can't be run and shouldn't be run. It is simply >used to store files in a single location in a smaller package that keeps >download sizes down. > >For Jim's games you should unzip the winkit.zip file in a folder like c:\temp >and install the programs. After that there will be an item in your start menu >called kitchensinc where you can play the games from. Extracting the other >Kitchensinc games to the right folder will also make them available in the >menu in the kitchensinc program. >hth. >- Original Message - From: "Shirley Starblanket" > >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:29 AM >Subject: [Audyssey] question on games > > >>Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. I >>tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only >>applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. >>Sincerely, Shirley >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
um why exactly will your hard drive not accept compressed files? I suggest you reformat and the problem will go away. Actually why only run standard programs and not compressed. you either have your security system screwed or you just need to reformat or something. At 01:29 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote: >Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. I >tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only >applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. >Sincerely, Shirley > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Um Shirley, I don't know how to say this, but maybe you should ask someone near you to discuss the running of programs, the uses of compressed files and so forth. In short, the compressed file can't be run and shouldn't be run. It is simply used to store files in a single location in a smaller package that keeps download sizes down. For Jim's games you should unzip the winkit.zip file in a folder like c:\temp and install the programs. After that there will be an item in your start menu called kitchensinc where you can play the games from. Extracting the other Kitchensinc games to the right folder will also make them available in the menu in the kitchensinc program. hth. - Original Message - From: "Shirley Starblanket" To: Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:29 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question on games Hey gamers. I want to play a baseball game, golf game or mathematics games. I tried Jim's site but my hard drive won't accept compressed files, only applications. So, is there a site with those games? Thanks. Sincerely, Shirley --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.