Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-12 Thread Hans Fugal
Goodness, I must be getting bounce-happy. Sorry about that. Good thing I didn't expose any secret passwords or anything... Hans :) * Hans Fugal [Fri, 12 Jul 2002 at 10:56 -0600] > Hi Beau, I will write more later - I have to get out the door in a > minute. Was this intended to be off-list? Ma

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-12 Thread Hans Fugal
ks to online catalogs - assuming that they aren't being revised > in ways that break the links. > > Does that complicate the issue sufficiently? > > Beau > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Hans Fugal >

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-12 Thread Hans Fugal
t; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Hans Fugal > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source > > > I spent a while wrestling this out with my brother Jacob today. The

RE: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-12 Thread Beau Sharbrough
ssuming that they aren't being revised in ways that break the links. Does that complicate the issue sufficiently? Beau -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hans Fugal Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sub

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-10 Thread Hans Fugal
I spent a while wrestling this out with my brother Jacob today. There are situations where one would need to know more than just repository-id and source-id. For instance, if a particular repository had more than one copy of source and you wanted to indicate which one you had searched, repository-

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-10 Thread Hans Fugal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Hans Fugal > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:39 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source > > > > > > So I guess the question becomes whe

RE: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-10 Thread Michael Fitzgerald
] > Subject: Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source > > > So I guess the question becomes whether it is appropriate to do it this > way in gdmxml. Any opinions? > > > > * Stan Mitchell [Tue, 9 Jul 2002 at 23:12 -0700] > > > Yes, it does seem

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-10 Thread Hans Fugal
So I guess the question becomes whether it is appropriate to do it this way in gdmxml. Any opinions? * Stan Mitchell [Tue, 9 Jul 2002 at 23:12 -0700] > Yes, it does seem that your suggestion reduces redundancy > without sacrificing search capability. > > Hans Fugal wrote: > > >But then you

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-09 Thread Stan Mitchell
Yes, it does seem that your suggestion reduces redundancy without sacrificing search capability. Hans Fugal wrote: >But then you have to store call-numbers possibly many times. For >example, a professional researcher would doubtless perform many searches >in any particular US Census. For that Ce

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-09 Thread Hans Fugal
Thanks for the explanations, Stan! Things are beginning to clear up. See below... * Stan Mitchell [Tue, 9 Jul 2002 at 15:03 -0700] > Yes, you're right, it is a three-way association with 0-1 instances of > activity. > From a database perspective, repository-source is an associative table - > no

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-09 Thread Stan Mitchell
Yes, you're right, it is a three-way association with 0-1 instances of activity. From a database perspective, repository-source is an associative table - no primary key only foreign keys. So it would be useful for performing queries on various combinations of the foreign keys. I think the three

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-09 Thread Hans Fugal
hmm, that's an interesting perpsective. This made me look closer at repository-source, and I am a little muddy now... It looks like repository-source ties 0 or 1 repositories to 0 or 1 sources to 0 or 1 activities (searches). It seems to me that this opens the door for data redundancy - there co

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-09 Thread Stan Mitchell
A few thoughts on repository-source ... IMHO & from an OO point-of-view, repository-source seems to be a separate class. It represents the association between no or one instance of source and no or one instance of repository, with the constraint that there be at least one source or one repository

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-09 Thread Hans Fugal
Thanks for the heads up, John. I checked the spec; the sequence number is "The number that keeps the PLACE-PARTs in order, either ascending or descending (or in no order)." Place-part has a place-part-type-id which specifies whether this part is a city, county, etc. So as I understand it the sequ

Re: [gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-09 Thread John Harvey
At 10:09 PM 7/8/2002 -0600, Hans Fugal wrote: >The GDM calls for a sequence number on each place-part of a place, and >an ordering scheme of the place-parts of a place. With XML order matters >(unless we say it doesn't) so I see no need for a sequence number; it is >implied. I am a retired progr

[gdmxml] more thoughts on entering a source

2002-07-08 Thread Hans Fugal
One repository exists in one place, so it seems natural to make repository a child element of place. I've also made place-part a child of place for the same reason. The GDM calls for a sequence number on each place-part of a place, and an ordering scheme of the place-parts of a place. With XML