On 2004-11-30 11:19:33, Eric Pugh wrote:
Now, partly that may be a communication thing.. If Log4j fails, they get
emailed. If log4j breaks every body else, they don't... Without active
involvement by a group, the prospect of keeping things working becomes a
thankless task (witness Niclas's
: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:36 AM
To: Gump code and data
Subject: Re: Picking up the ball from Niclas (ugh!) on Velocity
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 07:45, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Gump is about establishing communication channels between
On Nov 30, 2004, at 6:19 AM, Eric Pugh wrote:
I think what he means is that we can't expect people to make changes
just to
make Gump happy. But, we can *attempt* to influence them to help.
And I
think that is where we are going wrong. For instance, Fulcrum
components
didn't build very well
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 20:18, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Nov 30, 2004, at 6:19 AM, Eric Pugh wrote:
Geir's email highlights a very clear issue with the whole
deprecation/version cycle. He can't switch to log4j until it releases.
They don't want to keep deprecated code around for
On Nov 30, 2004, at 8:18 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 20:18, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Nov 30, 2004, at 6:19 AM, Eric Pugh wrote:
Geir's email highlights a very clear issue with the whole
deprecation/version cycle. He can't switch to log4j until it
releases.
They don't
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
The rule should be to start fixing gump and fix the communication
channels rather than fixing the metadata to route around the problems.
Cool, but then you told me Don't change people we should work around them
[projects not willing to co-operate]...
I would call that
So,
I thought I would just submit a patch to Velocity to fix the velocity/log4j
problem and everything would be fine. Wrong.. The issue is the non
backwards compatible API change to log4j. And, I saw Niclas email about it
as well.
So, I dug some more and according to this email:
http:[EMAIL
Eric Pugh wrote:
So,
I thought I would just submit a patch to Velocity to fix the velocity/log4j
problem and everything would be fine. Wrong.. The issue is the non
backwards compatible API change to log4j. And, I saw Niclas email about it
as well.
So, I dug some more and according to this
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From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gump is about establishing communication channels between development
communities.
ROTFLOL
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On Tuesday 30 November 2004 07:45, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Gump is about establishing communication channels between development
communities.
On the other hand, if you are interested in creating a social
engineering support tool and you are willing to get your hands dirty in
python and
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