Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, amareshwarisr . amareshw...@gmail.com wrote: Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the project is set to the automated and managed flow of information between systems. I dont see any such on project website - http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/ Looks like a

[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2)

2015-07-21 Thread Yakov Zhdanov
Hello! Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2) has been accepted. Here are the votes received: - Justin Mclean (binding) - Konstantin Boudnik (binding) - Branko Cibej (binding) - Sergey Khisamov - Nick Tikhonov - Ira Vasilinets - Semyon Boikov - Alex Kuznetsov - Yakov

Re: Kylin mentor

2015-07-21 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
Hi Luke, I’d be willing to act as a mentor to Kylin. If that’s okay with the Kylin community, let me know and I’ll update appropriate files. -Taylor On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Luke Han luke...@apache.org wrote: Thanks Julian to step up, as previous advisor, you already give us a lot of

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Twill-0.6.0-incubating

2015-07-21 Thread Henry Saputra
Signature file looks good Hash files look good LICENSE file looks good NOTICE file looks good DISCLAIMER file exist Source compiled and passed tests +1 (binding) Good job guys - Henry On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Terence Yim cht...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, This is to call for a vote

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Pierre Smits
It seems that 63% of the podling's PMC is affiliated to 1 organisation (Gridgrain). Have sufficient grounds been covered to ensure diversity and independece? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-21 Thread Alexander Bezzubov
Got it, thank you very much, Justin, for the explanation! On behalf of the Apache Zeppelin (incubating) PPMC I have contacted the original author and he agreed to contribute this code, with the proper Apache 2.0 licence header, directly to the Apache Zeppelin (incubating) codebase as a separate

Re: [NOTICE] Yetus TLP proposal

2015-07-21 Thread Sean Busbey
Added. Thanks for the suggestion David. On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:57 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: Please consider using commits@ - that's a well known design pattern that is used pervasively. If you need notifications@ in addition, that's okay too, but there are lots of things

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2)

2015-07-21 Thread Anton Vinogradov
Apache Ignite 1.3.0 released. Maven artifacts released, sources and convenience binaries moved to svn/~/release, site updated. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Yakov Zhdanov yzhda...@apache.org wrote: Hello! Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2) has been accepted. Here are the votes received:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-21 Thread Henry Saputra
Thanks to Justin for his thorough review, as always. I have pinged back the Apache Zeppelin community to see if we could quickly address the issue. - Henry On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org wrote: Has the author of

Re: [DISCUSS] Diversity policy (WAS: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Douglas
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: If by this you mean the Incubator has taught the podling what it needs to know, and the podling is following the best practices of the Apache Way, then we are in full agreement. I don't see the need to single me out

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-21 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Regarding the issue raised by Edward - we were under impression that this particular contribution is covered by https://github.com/apache/incubator-zeppelin/blob/master/NOTICE#L53 (as we use the code from https://code.google.com/p/selenium/issues/detail?id=1361 that was not merged to

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Ted Dunning
Chris, Thanks for bringing up the Tez discussion. I think that it was a great example of a community responding to questions and criticisms in a very open and evidence based manner. I was strongly -1 on that proposal originally based on similar grounds to what has been raised in this thread.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-21 Thread Alexander Bezzubov
Apologies for not timely response. Thank you Konstantin and Justin for your reviews - we have filed the issues to track that your feedback is going to be addressed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZEPPELIN-174 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZEPPELIN-175 Regarding the issue raised by

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
The so-called diversity requirement has been discussed on this list for a number of times. Most recent is the graduation of Flume project (back in 2012). Here's a quote from that thread (kudos to Roy; for those who want to look it up in the archives MessageId is

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Ted Dunning
Actually, given that this project was a spin-out of an internal project, this is a stunningly low number to have achieved so quickly (assuming that the 37% are actually active, that is). Kudos. +1 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, amareshwarisr . amareshw...@gmail.com wrote: Seems the

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Henry Saputra
I have seen top level projects, with majority of PMCs come from paid employees of a single company, suffer of growth and development when the employees of such company stop contributing to the project. Going back to Apache Ignite, since it is the main core of GridGain I doubt the project will be

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
Accusation of what exactly? To the best of my knowledge, Roy has not been a part of the Ignite discussion, nor is he quoting policy in that particular sentence, but stating his opinion that the published Incubator policy should be overlooked (to which I disagree). Yes, he explains in rigorous

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Accusation of what exactly? Quoting Roy out of context. Here's what you said: Quoting Roy out of context is not a Hail Mary you can just throw out there when someone disagrees with you. To the best of my knowledge, Roy

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Pierre Smits
Thanks, Konstantin, for the enlighting quote. And the link leading to nowhere. If we take away the names of the mentors from the list (Branko, Roman and yours) as well as those in other projects (Evans) from the list of intended project members, the situation even grows worse. Then the number

[NOTICE] Lens VOTEing for graduation

2015-07-21 Thread Jakob Homan
FYI, Lens is currently VOTEing on a graduation resolution following successful discussions thereof. -Jakob -- Forwarded message -- From: Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com Date: 21 July 2015 at 13:27 Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Lens from Incubator To: d...@lens.incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Ted Dunning
Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation. What is important is that the committers and PMC of the new project understand how to make releases and are building community. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Konstantin,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
While Roy is indeed a smart man, there is no BDFL in the ASF. Quoting Roy out of context is not a Hail Mary you can just throw out there when someone disagrees with you. Several people, including several IPMC members have expressed concerns. Address them properly instead of insisting on your

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Quoting Roy out of context Daniel, unless you can substantiate the above claim I suggest you retract your statement. In open communities an accusation that you just threw at me carries a lot of weight and I will absolutely

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:44PM, Pierre Smits wrote: A lot has changed in the period after the posting of Roy. Back then there seemed to have been less concern regarding independence and diversity. We now have a code of conduct (even though some are convinced that these are mere guidelines

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
Another minor nitpick: On the people page of the ignite website, some are tagged as PMC and there is a tag for PMC Chair. Until official graduation, that should probably change to PPMC and the PMC Chair tag be removed, since AFAIK podlings don't have VPs. -Taylor On Jul 21, 2015, at 5:08

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Sorry, which part of the quoted policy the 63% is allegedly scraping out? For easy reference, here's the link https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html to the document containing the section of Creating an Open and Diverse community. So far I haven't heard a single matter of fact

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
Is this a reply to me or to Pierre? I have not mentioned 63% anywhere. I have stated that we have a policy that states that a podling must have an open and diverse meritocratic community. The link you put in your reply says exactly that. With regards, Daniel. On 2015-07-22 00:16,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread jan i
On 21 July 2015 at 22:48, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: On 07/21/2015 10:39 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation. So we should just scrap the bit in the Incubator policy that says A major criterion for graduation is to have

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Yet, the graduation of the projects like Apache Tez had happened with close to 100% PPMC employed by the same company. Shall IPMC first workout what diversity means in numbers and then apply it to all podlings, instead of doing this arbitrary? And what that number should be? Would it need to be

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
It seems to me the spirit of the diversity statement is about project survival: A healthy project should survive the departure of any single contributor or employer of contributors. So I would think satisfying that requirement wouldn’t necessarily involve a percentage, but rather a simple

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:08PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Nitpicking time. Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created by GridGain, which includes optional LGPL dependencies, such as Hibernate L2 cache integration and

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Please re-read the quote from Roy: There is no diversity requirement at the ASF. There is a behavior requirement for graduation and a behavior requirement for TLPs. We must not confuse the two. and later I'd urge folks to fix the docs, but I know where that leads ... and I have no cycles to

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:30PM, Pierre Smits wrote: Thanks, Konstantin, for the enlighting quote. And the link leading to nowhere. Or, I didn't know that unique message Id isn't enough nowadays. Here's the easier link for your convenience ;) http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread jan i
On 21 July 2015 at 22:39, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation. Reading other lists, it seems to me that board is very concerned about TLPs that are dominated by one company. We (ASF) want to ensure that a project is not

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
Nitpicking time. Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created by GridGain, which includes optional LGPL dependencies, such as Hibernate L2 cache integration and Geospatial Indexing. It benefits from continued testing by

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 05:13PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: It seems to me the spirit of the diversity statement is about project survival: A healthy project should survive the departure of any single contributor or employer of contributors. So I would think satisfying that requirement

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 07/21/2015 10:39 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation. So we should just scrap the bit in the Incubator policy that says A major criterion for graduation is to have developed an open and diverse meritocratic community.? I think not.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:17AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Is this a reply to me or to Pierre? I have not mentioned 63% anywhere. I have stated that we have a policy that states that a podling must have an open and diverse meritocratic community. The link you put in your reply says exactly that.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:04 PM, P. Taylor Goetz ptgo...@gmail.com wrote: Another minor nitpick: On the people page of the ignite website, some are tagged as PMC and there is a tag for PMC Chair. Until official graduation, that should probably change to PPMC and the PMC Chair tag be removed,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: The question of diversity in this case is not are we enough men/women/whatever, the question here is is there a single corporate entity with a deciding vote in the project?. Actually, I would hope that the criterion is

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Nitpicking time. Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created by GridGain, which includes optional LGPL dependencies, such as Hibernate L2 cache

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2015-07-22 00:15, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Accusation of what exactly? Quoting Roy out of context. Here's what you said: Quoting Roy out of context is not a Hail Mary you can just throw out there when someone

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2015-07-22 00:41, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:17AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Is this a reply to me or to Pierre? I have not mentioned 63% anywhere. I have stated that we have a policy that states that a podling must have an open and diverse meritocratic community. The

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:33AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 2015-07-22 00:15, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Accusation of what exactly? Quoting Roy out of context. Here's what you said: Quoting Roy out of context is not a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2015-07-22 00:47, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:33AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 2015-07-22 00:15, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Accusation of what exactly? Quoting Roy out of context. Here's what

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Pierre Smits
The following page of the Incubator project states 'The project is not highly dependent on any single contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent committers and there is no single company or entity that is vital to the success of the project)'.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:38AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 2015-07-22 00:41, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:17AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Is this a reply to me or to Pierre? I have not mentioned 63% anywhere. I have stated that we have a policy that states that a podling

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: The question of diversity in this case is not are we enough men/women/whatever, the question here is is there a single corporate entity with a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2015-07-22 01:17, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Nitpicking time. Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created by GridGain, which includes optional

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Douglas
Daniel- This has been discussed recently in graduations for Tez [1], Drill [2], and other projects whose continued incubation serves no purpose. They've completed a curriculum that clears their IP and introduces them to the ASF's infrastructure, procedures, and culture. The project must be open,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
(Sorry if the placement of this reply is wrong, but this thread is getting long and tarting to branch a bit...) Maybe the question we should be asking is: Has the ignite podling demonstrated sufficient dedication to diversity that it can survive as a TLP, and not be overly influenced by a

[DISCUSS] Diversity policy (WAS: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 07/22/2015 01:36 AM, Chris Douglas wrote: Daniel- This has been discussed recently in graduations for Tez [1], Drill [2], and other projects whose continued incubation serves no purpose. If by this you mean the Incubator has taught the podling what it needs to know, and the podling is

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: On 2015-07-22 01:17, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Nitpicking time. Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: GridGain Community Edition

Re: Kylin mentor

2015-07-21 Thread Luke Han
Thanks Julian to step up, as previous advisor, you already give us a lot of help and guide. Really appreciated to be Apache Kylin's official mentor. If anyone else would like to help us, please also leave message here. Thank you very much. Luke On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Julian Hyde

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kylin-0.7.2-incubating

2015-07-21 Thread Luke Han
This vote passes with 6 +1s and no 0 or -1 votes: +1 Justin Mclean (binding) +1 Henry Saputra (binding) +1 Owen O'Malley (binding) +1 Ted Dunning (binding) +1 Julian Hyde (binding) +1 Luke Han Thanks everyone. We’ll now roll the release out to the mirrors. Luke Han, on behalf of Apache Kylin

[VOTE] Release Apache Twill-0.6.0-incubating

2015-07-21 Thread Terence Yim
Hi all, This is to call for a vote on releasing Apache Twill 0.6.0-incubating. This is the seventh release for Twill. Apache Twill is an abstraction over Apache Hadoop YARN that reduces the complexity of developing distributed applications. Vote on twill-dev: http://s.apache.org/ABI Result on

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread amareshwarisr .
Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the project is set to the automated and managed flow of information between systems. I dont see any such on project website - http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/ Looks like a copy from NIFI's graduation discussion -

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Kylin v0.7.2-incubating released

2015-07-21 Thread Luke Han
Hello The Apache Kylin team would like to announce the release of Apache Kylin 0.7.2-incubating. Apache Kylin is an open source Distributed Analytics Engine, provides SQL interface and multi-dimensional analysis (OLAP) on Hadoop supporting extremely large datasets. More details on Apache Kylin

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Kylin-0.7.2-incubating

2015-07-21 Thread Li Yang
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Owen O'Malley omal...@apache.org wrote: * All of the java files are in org.apache.kylin package. Only exceptions were in the atopcalcite module: * net.hydromatic.optiq.runtime * org.eigenbase.sql2rel Are those classes coming from a different

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-21 Thread Branko Čibej
On 21.07.2015 03:26, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: Thanks for kicking off this discussion, Dmirtiy. As one of the mentors I think this podling is ready to get graduated. The process of indocrInating this group of people into the Apache Way was not always a walk in a park and we had our share of