Willem,
There are already tools to help address the most common issues. The common
issues that can't currently be addressed involve human language which is
hard to figure out automatically.
Assuming that these tools can be improved (and they definitely can) who
would you propose do the
+1
Le mer. 19 juin 2019 à 02:42, Dave Fisher a écrit :
> Hi David and Greg,
>
> > On Jun 18, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Justin Mclean
> wrote:
> >
> > HI,
> >
> > +1 (binding)
> >
> > I hope the podling has better success outside the ASF.
> >
> > BTW in all previous cases of podlings exiting I could
It could be a grown pain for the new podlings if they need to go
through 10+ voting, but it could make the life more easier by
providing some tools to help the podling to find out the issues before
sending out the vote.
I know it is harder to provide an unify tool which could be useful for
all
Hi David and Greg,
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> +1 (binding)
>
> I hope the podling has better success outside the ASF.
>
> BTW in all previous cases of podlings exiting I could find, a vote was taken
> (see below links and there’s more I’ve not listed).
HI,
+1 (binding)
I hope the podling has better success outside the ASF.
BTW in all previous cases of podlings exiting I could find, a vote was taken
(see below links and there’s more I’ve not listed). In most cases this was to
retire rather than returning/going elsewhere, so the situation
+1 (binding)
I agree with Greg, this feels superfluous. Let’s get out of the way of
people doing the work.
—David
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 01:37 Greg Stein wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> (and IMO this vote should never have been needed/called; let's help them,
> rather than hinder)
>
> On Mon, Jun
+1 (binding)
-Taylor
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and return
> back to OpenZipkin.
>
> PPMC have voted.[1], carried two IPMC +1 vote from Sheng Wu and Willem Jiang
>
> There is no trademark, logo
Hi -
Very interesting talk. It reminds me of Oracle’s donation of OpenOffice.
Would you share your 10 points in text via email?
Best Regards,
Dave
> On Jun 14, 2019, at 3:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> Just as a quick follow up, I watched this YouTube recording of a session I
> did last
Apologies for replying twice in a row to the thread.
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>
> Alex, Jim, Bertrand,
>
> This discussion is re-inventing a discussion that has been had before. At
> one time, the incubator tried to present principles to incoming podling
> (albeit not
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 4:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> ...prepping the existing community regarding what "moving to the ASF means"
>> is the job of the Champion, no?...
>
> I agree but it has to be based on written docs, not
[+1] Agree
And best of luck in the future.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 3:22 AM Sheng Wu wrote:
> Hi
>
> This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and
> return back to OpenZipkin.
>
> PPMC have voted.[1], carried two IPMC +1 vote from Sheng Wu and Willem
> Jiang
>
> There is
Alex, Jim, Bertrand,
This discussion is re-inventing a discussion that has been had before. At
one time, the incubator tried to present principles to incoming podling
(albeit not in a very well documented fashion). The reaction was that
podlings strongly wanted specifics, not general principles.
On 6/18/19, 5:03 AM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote:
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> ...prepping the existing community regarding what "moving to the ASF
means" is the job of the
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:21:42 +0800, Sheng Wu wrote:
> This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and return
> back to OpenZipkin.
+1 (binding)
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
https://orcid.org/-0001-9842-9718
+1, and I wish OpenZipkin all the best in your future endeavors.
Best,
Myrle
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:21 PM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:22 PM Sheng Wu
> wrote:
>
> > > This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator,
Thanks for help.
I will bring this to legal-jira this weeks later.
Best Regards,
YorkShen
申远
Myrle Krantz 于2019年6月17日周一 下午8:07写道：
> Thank you all,
>
> YorkShen, I think at this point the best thing to do is to open a "legal"
> ticket at this Jira
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> ...prepping the existing community regarding what "moving to the ASF means"
>> is the job of the Champion, no?...
>
> I agree but it has to be based on written docs, not
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:44 PM Justin Mclean wrote:
> >...at the Incubator level I think there's
> > way to many unclear or badly documented rules.
>
> Nope, sorry that’s at the ASF level
I agree, the mess is on both sides ;-)
-Bertrand
Hi,
> In principle I would agree, but at the Incubator level I think there's
> way to many unclear or badly documented rules.
Nope, sorry that’s at the ASF level. The IPMC has some documentation that need
clearing up and reducing but that’s not the core issue.
> Could we adopt the Maturity
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jim Jagielski wrote:
> ...prepping the existing community regarding what "moving to the ASF means"
> is the job of the Champion, no?...
I agree but it has to be based on written docs, not oral tradition as
that does not scale.
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>
> Hi Roman,
>
> All very true. What the Incubator could do better is to let people know the
> key values of The Apache Way that will impact any existing community if they
> come to the ASF through the Incubator. While it will be a
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 9:10 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> ...Here are some thoughts I have to improving Incubation
FWIW, to give additional context for ASF Members, there was also a
discussion about this started by Incubator PMC members, on the board@
list:
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:24 AM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...We have to make them understand that the ASF is more than a GIT repo, CI
> Server and Mailing lists.
> That the ASF has great things to provide (Legal Shield, Marketing, Infra,
> ...) but that this only works
> If you play along
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:22 PM Sheng Wu wrote:
> > This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and
> > return back to OpenZipkin.
+1
-Bertrand
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of course I meant "packages released as a *not* super high priority concern"
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 5:37 PM Adrian Cole wrote:
> if you would like to do, this feel free. this type of concern seems more
> like a github issue vs an incubator discussion. we have changed group ids
> in the past
if you would like to do, this feel free. this type of concern seems more
like a github issue vs an incubator discussion. we have changed group ids
in the past prior to Apache without complaints.
again the most important project from a dependency pinning pov, brave, was
never released. knowing the
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 00:40, Adrian Cole wrote:
>
> on the maven topic:
>
> for almost all cases there will be no classpath problem. the most common
> entry point into maven was the package for "brave" which was never released
> under an apache group id. the underlying libraries had very few
I think a big and simple thing to consider is that the difference between
success/failure in migrating to Apache TLP is one of attitude -- i.e., the
very same things that the Zipkin community considered to be immensely
frustrating were considered to be immensely frustrating to the NetBeans
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