Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread Upayavira
Chris, What I was trying to do with this particular thread is to identify the problems the incubator has before deciding on solutions. If we can get a common agreement on that, specific solutions will be much easier for us all to accept. So, my question to you is are you able/willing to

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: Chris, What I was trying to do with this particular thread is to identify the problems the incubator has before deciding on solutions. If we can get a common agreement on that, specific solutions will be much easier for us

committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Benson Margulies
I was not sure that I'd kept this updated, so I went back through all the email since November and tried to reconcile the entries and exists between the email, this file in svn, and ldap. Does anyone know how to cross-check this file and ldap?

CloudStack in the incubator report page for April

2013-04-02 Thread Chip Childers
Hi all, It looks like I hadn't updated CloudStack's status to graduated soon enough to have the incubator report generation process skip it on the wiki. Anyone mind if I simply remove CloudStack's section from the report page? We'll be reporting directly to the board this month.

Re: committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Benson Margulies wrote: I was not sure that I'd kept this updated, so I went back through all the email since November and tried to reconcile the entries and exists between the email, this file in svn, and ldap. Does anyone know how to cross-check this file and ldap? This might help (it helps

Re: CloudStack in the incubator report page for April

2013-04-02 Thread Chip Childers
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 09:55:51AM -0400, Benson Margulies wrote: Please do it. Done - thx. On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: Hi all, It looks like I hadn't updated CloudStack's status to graduated soon enough to have the incubator

Re: Incubator structure

2013-04-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Upayavira, -Original Message- From: Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 2:17 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on

Re: committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: ...Does anyone know how to cross-check this file and ldap?... The real question might be why this needs to be duplicated (I assume) between LDAP and a file - any advice from infra? IIUC,

[ANNOUNCE] Henry Saputra as new Incubator PMC member

2013-04-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi All, Please join me in welcoming Henry Saputra to the Incubator PMC. Henry, welcome! Please feel free to share a bit about yourself. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
As far as I understand your comment, Ant, you mean to say that he problem is that there is too much variation in opinion and approach. (Primarily, I understand, in relation to releases.) This doesn't seem related to the size of the PMC, to me. We're always going to need a large pool of people

[ANNOUNCE] David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
Dear community, I am pleased to announce that David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC. Please join me in extending a warm welcome to David! On behalf of the Incubator PMC, -- NS

Re: [ANNOUNCE] David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Welcome David! Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW:

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Henry Saputra as new Incubator PMC member

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
Welcome, Henry! On 2 April 2013 16:53, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi All, Please join me in welcoming Henry Saputra to the Incubator PMC. Henry, welcome! Please feel free to share a bit about yourself. Cheers, Chris

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Henry Saputra as new Incubator PMC member

2013-04-02 Thread Henry Saputra
Thanks Chris and IPMCs, I contributed to some ASF projects and currently have role as PMC of Shindig and Gora, and also working as PPMC for Tajo project. I am looking forward participating in the ASF incubator to help bringing awesome projects into ASF umbrella. - Henry On Tue, Apr 2, 2013

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Henry Saputra as new Incubator PMC member

2013-04-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Welcome and have a lot of fun! On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Chris and IPMCs, I contributed to some ASF projects and currently have role as PMC of Shindig and Gora, and also working as PPMC for Tajo project. I am looking forward

Re: [ANNOUNCE] David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Have fun, David! Welcome! On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Dear community, I am pleased to announce that David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC. Please join me in extending a warm welcome to David! On behalf of the Incubator PMC, -- NS --

Re: [ANNOUNCE] David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Chip Childers
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 06:34:06PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: Dear community, I am pleased to announce that David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC. Please join me in extending a warm welcome to David! On behalf of the Incubator PMC, -- NS Congrats David!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Henry Saputra as new Incubator PMC member

2013-04-02 Thread Matt Franklin
Welcome! On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi All, Please join me in welcoming Henry Saputra to the Incubator PMC. Henry, welcome! Please feel free to share a bit about yourself. Cheers, Chris

Wiki access

2013-04-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Can someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki? http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ My username is AndreaPescetti Thanks, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: Wiki access

2013-04-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Can someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki? http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ My username is AndreaPescetti Done. Marvin Humphrey

Re: committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: The real question might be why this needs to be duplicated (I assume) between LDAP and a file - any advice from infra? It is not strictly duplicated. committee-info.txt contains historical information that you won't find in LDAP (for example, PMC members who have

Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] recommend Apache DeltaSpike for graduating out of the incubator

2013-04-02 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi! The VOTE has PASSED with the following +1 +1 (binding): Mark Struberg, Gerhard Petracek, Chris Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Matze Wessendorf, Alan Cabrera, Matt Benson, Suresh Marru +1 (non-binding): Sergio Fernández no -1 nor +-0. Thanks all for reviewing and voting! LieGrue, strub

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread Benson Margulies
Ant is reflecting a real dilemma here. At Apache, we try to be egalitarian, and we try to work by consensus. The natural conclusion is that the many people needed to vote on releases are also part of the decision-making body for policy that controls those releases. The dilemma is that consensus

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
A simple question for you all. If the current amount of podlings (38): [terra:~/tmp/podlings-content] mattmann% cat podlings.xml | grep current | wc -l 38 [terra:~/tmp/podlings-content] mattmann% Graduated over the next 3 months (~13 a month), or even the next 6 months (which is ~6 near

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 2 April 2013 22:18, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Ross' proposal sacrifices some egalitarianism to achieve better scaling of both decision-making and supervision. It is not my intention to sacrifice some egalitarianism. My intention is to allow those who have signed up to

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Niall, First off, thanks for reading my proposal! Specific comments below: -Original Message- From: Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org