On Apr 3, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
...Chris proposes that this
committee recommend its own demise to the board, to be replaced, in
large part, by the board itself. Every board member who has
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
On 3 April 2013 14:41, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Ant. Is the documentation ignored?
Whenever I
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On Apr 3, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
...Chris proposes that this
committee recommend its own demise to the board, to be
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
Ant is reflecting a real dilemma here. At Apache, we try to be
egalitarian, and we try to work by consensus. The natural conclusion
is that the many people needed to vote on releases are also part of
the
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 31 March 2013 17:08, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Why is it so hard to see that the board is already watching those 22
nascent projects in the same manner they watch the 137
As I see it, the incubator as we have it is a mechanism for coping
with the lack of mentor commitment. As Ross often writes, it's easy to
say that Mentors *should* make this commitment, but mentors are
volunteers, and things happen. Upayavira wonders if Mentor 'harvest
glory' and then wander away.
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
...How about the following more incremental experiment: we do what
Upayavira says: we set a higher bar for mentors at podling start time.
We ask them to make a public statement of commitment that for some
period
On 4 April 2013 09:06, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 31 March 2013 17:08, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Why is it so hard to see that the board is already watching
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
Just a thought.
Chris' solution says 'make mentors the initial PMC'. They vote in other
project team members as appropriate to be peers. This creates a positive
egalitarian setup which mirrors that of a PMC, which is a good
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
Having said that, here's an idea that builds on your proposal. There is
already the opportunity to name the board as the sponsoring organisation.
Why not say where the board is willing to sponsor the project it can
On 4 April 2013 08:46, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On Apr 3, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
...Chris proposes
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
As I see it, the incubator as we have it is a mechanism for coping
with the lack of mentor commitment. As Ross often writes, it's easy to
say that Mentors *should* make this commitment, but mentors are
volunteers,
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 4 April 2013 09:06, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 31 March 2013 17:08, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Benson writes:
We ask them to make a public statement of commitment that for some
period of time (six months) they commit to thinking of themselves _as
a PMC_, not just as some sort of diffuse advisors or coaches...
+1 to the change of mentality.
Bertrand replies:
I like that - I'd say 3
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
...If Mentors fall away after phase 1 ends, it's less of a problem.
Replacing
Mentors is less consequential once the code base has reached the known good
state of having made it through the release process
Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity
On 4 Apr 2013 15:17, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
wrote:
On 4 April 2013 09:06, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:20 PM,
Hey Ross,
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013 6:22 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Incubator structure (was Re:
Dear Ben,
+1 from me (binding):
SIGS check out:
[terra:~/tmp/apache-mesos-0.11.0-incubating] mattmann%
$HOME/bin/verify_gpg_sigs
Verifying Signature for file mesos-0.11.0-incubating.tar.gz.asc
gpg: Signature made Thu Mar 7 14:41:36 2013 PST using RSA key ID F6FB762C
gpg: Good signature from
On 5 April 2013 04:07, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Dear Ben,
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Hindman b...@berkeley.edu
Reply-To: mesos-...@incubator.apache.org mesos-...@incubator.apache.org
Date: Thursday, March 7, 2013 3:52 PM
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